The Big Lebowski
Jim Hayes
in the script is a burnt out surfer. Trust me I know the type. Now I
have great respect for Buscemi as an actor and loved his performance in
Fargo, but playing this "surfer", even an ex. Not in his lifetime. No
more likely than Peter Lorre as an ex-downhill racer. Great movie,
though, script is an even better read and a free download at Drew's
Scriptorama.
Guinness
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Television is a reality.
And reality is less than television.
Chris Pierson
Frankly, no. Don't get me wrong -- I thought it was a lot of fun, and
would probably rank it in my Top 25 for this year, but the Coens have done
stronger work. I'd rank it around middle of the pack, as follows:
1. Miller's Crossing
2. Fargo
3. Raising Arizona
4. Blood Simple
5. The Big Lebowski
6. The Hudsucker Proxy
7. Barton Fink (yeah, I know, but I couldn't get into it -- I should
probably give it another shot)
Of course, everyone's mileage varies as far as ranking Coen films goes,
but I don't think you'll find many people who rank it higher than
Miller's, Fargo _and_ Fink.
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** Run Lola Run, Last Night, Life is Beautiful, Pleasantville,
Game Designer ** Apt Pupil, Rushmore, The Mighty, A Simple Plan, Happiness
Joe McKim
> 2. Fargo
> 3. Raising Arizona
> 4. Blood Simple
> 5. The Big Lebowski
> 6. The Hudsucker Proxy
> 7. Barton Fink (yeah, I know, but I couldn't get into it -- I should
> probably give it another shot)
I agree with the order of your list for the most part except I would probably
put Fargo at number 1 and Miller's Crossing at 2. I just think Fargo is a
really exceptional movie that doesn't come along that often. I most definitely
think it should have won Best Picture instead of that crap The English Patient.
Christina Stanley
: Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
Nope, for me, it's still Miller's Crossing.
christina
Guinness
much equal.Though I absolutely Loved the Dude's trip out to The First
edition's, I just dropped in to see what condition my condition is in.
n article <36780...@news.blarg.net>, Christina Stanley
<cris...@animal.blarg.net> writes
--
"Television is a reality.
And reality is less than television."
Brian Oblivion.....Videodrome
Robert Lee
> Guinness (Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
> Nope, for me, it's still Miller's Crossing.
My god, do you rule.
--Robert
--
I say let Pinochet free. After his harrowing ordeal inside the belly of
Monstro The Whale, I think we can all agree he has suffered enough.
--The Onion
Thratchen
On 16 Dec 1998, Christina Stanley wrote:
> Guinness (Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
>
> Nope, for me, it's still Miller's Crossing.
>
> christina
Quit givin' me the high hat!!
Patrick
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"An abyss of fortune or of temperament sundered him from them. His mind
seemed older than theirs: it shone coldly on their strifes and happiness
and regrets like a moon upon a younger earth. No life or youth stirred in
him as it had stirred in them....Nothing stirred within his soul but a
cold and cruel and loveless lust. His childhood was dead or lost and with
it his soul capable of simple joys: and he was drifting amid life like the
barren shell of the moon."
- James Joyce, "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man"
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Christina Stanley
: On 16 Dec 1998, Christina Stanley wrote:
: > Guinness (Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: > : Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
: >
: > Nope, for me, it's still Miller's Crossing.
: >
: > christina
: Quit givin' me the high hat!!
Hello, Tom. Getting out the vote?
christina
Christina Stanley
: Hello, Tom. Getting out the vote?
Whoops, I guess it's Tom that said that. I'm so ashamed.
christina, who should just go home and watch her copy so she doesn't
bungle the Song of Solomon line.
Lou Minatti
>
> Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
No, I'd say it ranks right in the middle. John Turturo's character is
one of their funniest though.
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fury
Guinness wrote in message ...
>Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
>
> Television is a reality.
>
> And reality is less than television.
Miller's Crossing for me.
You Die Joe
Guinness wrote in message ...
>Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
>--
>
Maybe not. But it does contain their best single gag ever.
YDJ
Rufus T. Firefly
>
> Christina Stanley (cris...@animal.blarg.net) wrote:
>
> : Hello, Tom. Getting out the vote?
>
> Whoops, I guess it's Tom that said that. I'm so ashamed.
It's not just something to be ashamed for, you know? It's a question of
ethics.
R.
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
hilarious this film is. Actually this applies to all
Coen brothers' films. Just keep in mind that this is
a very surrealistic movie and you'll love it.
Mpoconnor7
I thought it was a good film, but not as entertaining as Fargo or Raising
Arizona or Millers Crossing. I enjoyed it as much as The Hudsucker Proxy.
Christina Stanley
: If you were in the right frame of mind you'll see how
: hilarious this film is. Actually this applies to all
: Coen brothers' films.
You don't mean high on the pot, do you?
Just keep in mind that this is
: a very surrealistic movie and you'll love it.
It's surrealistic like Jefferson Airplane's hippie album "Surrealistic
Pillow" is surrealistic.
christina
-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
Robert Lee
> Fuck you
Aw, Christina. Now you made him cry.
Thratchen
What a witty retort.
Thratchen
You stole my line. Bah! Hie thee back to Freedonia, you cursed
warmonger.
Bob Vickers
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Guinness <Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<bKy+rFAZ2$d2E...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk>...
> Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
Tulisan
character who makes a statement about loyalty... and then, without seeing it
coming, you find out in the end that that's what the movie's about. now
that's class. and skill!
tulisan
Christina Stanley wrote in message <36780...@news.blarg.net>...
>Guinness (Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
You Die Joe
Christina Stanley wrote in message <36793...@news.blarg.net>...
>-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- (Idon't...@nttogiveyoumy.damne-mail) wrote:
>: If you were in the right frame of mind you'll see how
>: hilarious this film is. Actually this applies to all
>: Coen brothers' films.
>
>You don't mean high on the pot, do you?
>
>Just keep in mind that this is
>: a very surrealistic movie and you'll love it.
>
>It's surrealistic like Jefferson Airplane's hippie album "Surrealistic
>Pillow" is surrealistic.
>
>christina
You saying Maude Lebowski isn't a surreal character?
YDJ
Christina Stanley
: You saying Maude Lebowski isn't a surreal character?
I'm saying that the word "surreal" gets tossed around quite a bit when it
doesn't really apply.
Maude Lebowski only says the word "vagina". If she suddenly morphed into a
vagina, then she'd be surreal.
christina
Christian
You Die Joe wrote:
> Christina Stanley wrote in message <36793...@news.blarg.net>...
> >-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- (Idon't...@nttogiveyoumy.damne-mail) wrote:
> >: If you were in the right frame of mind you'll see how
> >: hilarious this film is. Actually this applies to all
> >: Coen brothers' films.
> >
> >You don't mean high on the pot, do you?
> >
> >Just keep in mind that this is
> >: a very surrealistic movie and you'll love it.
> >
> >It's surrealistic like Jefferson Airplane's hippie album "Surrealistic
> >Pillow" is surrealistic.
> >
> >christina
>
> You saying Maude Lebowski isn't a surreal character?
You obviously never went to an art show in LA.
>
>
> YDJ
ba...@my-dejanews.com
cris...@animal.blarg.net (Christina Stanley) wrote:
> Guinness (Guin...@theblacklodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : Whats your opinion......Their best film ever?
>
> Nope, for me, it's still Miller's Crossing.
I thought The Big Lebowski was overrated. Inebriation just isn't that funny
to me and our hero's speech patterns got on my nerves. I have not seen
Miller's Crossing in its entirety so I cannot judge but I cannot imagine it
being as good as Blood Simple, a favorite of mine.
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You Die Joe
Christina Stanley wrote in message <367c2...@news.blarg.net>...
Pretty fucking rigid definition if you ask me.
YDJ
You Die Joe
Christina Stanley wrote in message <367c2...@news.blarg.net>...
>You Die Joe (zombi...@yahoo.com.nospam) wrote:
>
>: You saying Maude Lebowski isn't a surreal character?
>
>I'm saying that the word "surreal" gets tossed around quite a bit when it
>doesn't really apply.
>
>Maude Lebowski only says the word "vagina". If she suddenly morphed into a
>vagina, then she'd be surreal.
>
>christina
According to the Merriam Webster on-line dictionary, "surreal" is defined
as:
having the intense irrational reality of a dream.
Now, I don't know about you but I dream of things more mundane than people
computer graphically shifting into genitalia, at least from time to time.
The word "surreal" is simply another word for "dreamlike." Now, if you're
talking about the art movement known as "surrealism," it does include
Salvador Dali, but keep in mind it includes James Joyce as well. Surrealism
is hardly limited to hundred-foot tall horses and jumping spleens.
YDJ
Rufus T. Firefly
> I thought The Big Lebowski was overrated. Inebriation just isn't that funny
> to me and our hero's speech patterns got on my nerves. I have not seen
> Miller's Crossing in its entirety so I cannot judge but I cannot imagine it
> being as good as Blood Simple, a favorite of mine.
Good, that's what good movies are supposed to do - show you what you
cannot imagine. Miller's Crossing is a frighteningly good movie in that
respect. Especially when you see it for the third time.
R.
Christina Stanley
: Christina Stanley wrote in message <367c2...@news.blarg.net>...
Thanks, bub. I didn't have to look it up, myself. If you still think she's
surreal, go ahead. I just think she's just a crazy performance artist
overly fascinated with her own yoni.
Surrealism
: is hardly limited to hundred-foot tall horses and jumping spleens.
Yeah, and my "rigid example", in your words, was just an illustration of
how the character isn't even close to that kind of appellation.
whatever.
christina
You Die Joe
when a dictionary definition is presented, you say "whatever." Yes, ma'am.
You DID need to look it up.
YDJ
Christina Stanley wrote in message <367ee...@news.blarg.net>...
Eric Harding
>If you were in the right frame of mind you'll see how
>hilarious this film is. Actually this applies to all
I saw this film on a night my wife had pissed me off more than ever before,
and thought it was one of the worst films ever. Should I re-watch it?
Eric
Tobasco
You Die Joe wrote: in message
>The word "surreal" is simply another word for "dreamlike." Now, if you're
>talking about the art movement known as "surrealism," it does include
>Salvador Dali, but keep in mind it includes James Joyce as well.
Surrealism
>is hardly limited to hundred-foot tall horses and jumping spleens.
>
Jaysus Joyce a sorryeelist? He may have been a daddy, but not a daddyist
either. Dedalus hisownself was a rather modern man about town. If a label
must be stuck to someone's underside, that is.
Blooming in winter
Tobasco
Michael Brooke
> You Die Joe (zombi...@yahoo.com.nospam) wrote:
> > Now, I don't know about you but I dream of things more mundane than people
> > computer graphically shifting into genitalia, at least from time to time.
> > The word "surreal" is simply another word for "dreamlike." Now, if you're
> > talking about the art movement known as "surrealism," it does include
> > Salvador Dali, but keep in mind it includes James Joyce as well. Surrealism
> > is hardly limited to hundred-foot tall horses and jumping spleens.
>
> AHEM.
>
> Well, I wish that I had seen this thread before my last posting, so that I
> wouldn't have wasted all that steam in the face of such unabashed
> ignorance.
>
> Surrealism as an Art Movement did *not* include James Joyce.
Indeed it didn't, but only in terms of him not actually being a
card-carrying member of a Surrealist group. But you can certainly get
away with describing 'Finnegans Wake' as a Surrealist text - in terms of
achievement if not necessarily intention (and of course where Surrealism
is concerned, intention is irrelevant!).
For an equivalent example, 'Un Chien Andalou' is probably the most
famous Surrealist film ever made - but neither Luis Bunuel nor Salvador
Dali were members of the Surrealist Group at the time.
> Hands down.
> If you can't take my word for this, I'd suggest you go do some research
> and find the various manifestos and magazines of Surrealism, in which the
> ever-changing membership is routinely listed.
To the best of my knowledge, the only two major film-makers who were/are
genuine card-carrying Surrealists are Luis Bunuel and Jan Svankmajer,
though of course Surrealist ideas have been absorbed into all kinds of
films, most notably in the field of animation.
>
> As I said in my previous post, in another thread, the term 'surreal'
> itself was coined by cubist poet Guilliame Apollinaire, not Mirriam
> Webster, and I'd suggest you go find *his* definition, if you're going to
> be anal about it. And trust me, it's not simply "dreamlike".
Indeed it isn't, though the term "surreal" has been debased so much
through misuse that it's probably easiest just to establish a firm
distinction between "surreal" and "Surrealist". And even then it's not
particularly clear.
Michael
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Michael Brooke
> You Die Joe (zombi...@yahoo.com.nospam) wrote:
> > >Maude Lebowski only says the word "vagina". If she suddenly morphed into a
> > >vagina, then she'd be surreal.
> > >
> > >christina
> >
> >
> > Pretty fucking rigid definition if you ask me.
>
> Not to flame over Surrealism/Surrealist/surreal, something I've never been
> known to do, but,
>
> Surrealism was, at one point, an art movement based in Paris, lead by a
> miserable old crank named Andre Breton. Technically, the only things that
> are 'Surrealist' or 'surreal', came out of that particular movement, which
> spanned, arguably, from about 1920-1950, though some would contend it went
> on until Breton's death in the early 60s.
Actually, several Surrealist groups are still active today, though most
of them have a pretty low profile.
The Czech Surrealist Group in particular has been active more or less
continuously since the 1930s (albeit underground for most of the 1938-89
period), and still has regular sessions in various pubs in Prague, which
I've had the immense privilege of being invited to attend when
researching my website on Jan Svankmajer (not that I had a clue what was
going on most of the time, except when taking part in collective
drawings).
Apart from Svankmajer (whose work should be mandatory viewing for anyone
even vaguely interested in Surrealism, or just weird images in general),
the Czech group contains several fascinating artists whose work is well
worth exploring if you've exhausted the better-known Western European
Surrealists - Czech Surrealism has a few overlaps with the French
variety, but it had its own roots and its own traditions.
Frank M. Miller
mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk (Michael Brooke) wrote:
=Jarett Kobek <jwk...@is8.nyu.edu> wrote:
=> Surrealism was, at one point, an art movement based in Paris, lead by a
=> miserable old crank named Andre Breton. Technically, the only things that
=> are 'Surrealist' or 'surreal', came out of that particular movement, which
=> spanned, arguably, from about 1920-1950, though some would contend it went
=> on until Breton's death in the early 60s.
=
=Actually, several Surrealist groups are still active today, though most
=of them have a pretty low profile.
=
=The Czech Surrealist Group in particular has been active more or less
=continuously since the 1930s (albeit underground for most of the 1938-89
=period), and still has regular sessions in various pubs in Prague, which
=I've had the immense privilege of being invited to attend when
=researching my website on Jan Svankmajer (not that I had a clue what was
=going on most of the time, except when taking part in collective
=drawings).
And if you limited the term's application to just the members of the Paris
group, you'd have a definition so narrow as to be unusable. Breton
converted to Communism shortly after the movement began and quickly began
throwing out members who weren't political enough for him. On top of
that, he rejected the idea of surrealistic theatre because he considered
the theatre a hopelessly bourgeois artform, so that would leave
surrealistic works like Antonin Artaud's "A Jet of Blood." In fact,
Artaud was one of several artists expelled from the movement for
supposedly bourgeois leanings.
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