Worst movie you've seen
eag...@webtv.net
Personally, it was Megaforce. With Xanadu ranking a close second.
OFURY1
Let's see Starship Troopers and Stargate-both beginning with star.
SubCin2001
1) ET the Extra Testical
2) Bland By Me
Teo Ee Ming
I agree to your view on MIB totally. The movie is really downright boring.
People were laughing and I was yawning. Will Smith is indeed a horrible
actor. Now, at least I have someone in this newsgroup who agrees with me on
this point of view :) He was completely outrageous in ID4, with his smirks
and dumb one-liners, I cannot believe people could accept him as a great
actor. He must be the most over-rated actor I've seen so far. Hell, even
Eddie Murphy had some nice moments!
If Smith could just calm down and stopped taking any adrenalin-inducing
drugs, and hand himself to a more serious and repectable director or movie,
he could surpass Murphy one day. His movie debut in Six Degrees of
Seperation was a good start.
Teo Ee Ming
Derrick Ferguson
The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating movie
watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
J.J. Hunsecker
Ahoy there,
I agree with the guy who thought Men In Black was one of the
worst.
My additions:
12 Monkeys
Lost Highway
Good Morning, Viet Nam
J.J. Hunsecker
PaulB74075
Avast Ye,
In honor of Dylan's Kennedy Center Honor, I'd like to award him yet another
--i.e. The Worst Film I've Seen Award to "Renaldo and Clara."
--Waldo Lydecker
Tom Ferreira
Fresh Horses, without a question of a doubt.
Others include:
Trainspotting(Go ahead, get mad, you pretentious Gen-Xers)
Problem Child
Dances With Wolves(as a precedent for total control over Waterworld and
The Postman)
Andrew Leach
Mr. Holland's Opus... no doubt about it.
Michael Brooke
PaulB74075 <paulb...@aol.com> wrote:
Though 'Hearts of Fire' is a pretty effective (if shorter) runner-up...
And has anyone come up with a convincing explanation of exactly what
Dylan was doing in Sam Peckinpah's 'Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid'?
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J.J. Hunsecker <edd...@earthlink.net> wrote:
The first two are hardly *additions*, given you've been telling us how
lousy they are and how talentless David Lynch and Terry Gilliam are over
and over again!
In your case, I think we'd be more interested to know what you actually
*like*!
Dale Wood
How about "Showgirls"?
Bari Rat
Top Gun
Bari Rat
Dale Wood wrote:
>
> How about "Showgirls"?
Showgirls was certainly lousy but at least it had Gina Gershon.
Actually- I'd say " Kids " would be probably the worst film that
I've seen.
Bari Rat
KIDS
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"Dale Wood" <dale...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>How about "Showgirls"?
>
>
Sorry, I loved "Showgirls." If you know not to take it seriously,
it is IMO a very entertaining film in a campy sort of way. Regards
LatherZap
I can't narrow it down to one, so part of my list would be:
The Toolbox Murders
Criminally Insane
Twister
Hollywood Strangler vs. the Skidrow Slasher
Julien Bern
LatherZap wrote in message
<19971229055...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
"Mars Attacks" and "White Buffalo." There are no worse movies. Except for
anything French, of course.
Powerslave
RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
BY: Sin...@webtv.net (Derrick Ferguson)
-><685n1j$osl$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
->The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating movie
->watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
At least you got to see Brooke Shields' tits, and there were some tense moments
when they encountered the natives.
Now, Blue Lagoon 2 was a real stinker.
And for that matter, Ed Wood really blew, too.
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There's so many. Wishmaster is one that I actually paid full-price to see in
the theatre and dragged a friend to. Man that sucked in so many ways. I still
have gas from it to this day.
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Jaynt
12 Monkeys?
Lost Highway?
Good Morning Vietnam?
Are you crazy? All 3 were amazing movies. Take the time to watch them again
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J.J. Hunsecker wrote in message <34A67E...@earthlink.net>...
>Ahoy there,
> I agree with the guy who thought Men In Black was one of the
>worst.
> My additions:
> 12 Monkeys
> Lost Highway
> Good Morning, Viet Nam
> J.J. Hunsecker
>
>
Moloko
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:37:38 +0000, mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk
(Michael Brooke) wrote:
>J.J. Hunsecker <edd...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Ahoy there,
>> I agree with the guy who thought Men In Black was one of the
>> worst.
>> My additions:
>> 12 Monkeys
>> Lost Highway
>> Good Morning, Viet Nam
>>
>
>The first two are hardly *additions*, given you've been telling us how
>lousy they are and how talentless David Lynch and Terry Gilliam are over
>and over again!
>
>In your case, I think we'd be more interested to know what you actually
>*like*!
according to a list mr. Hunsecker has send me this is what he likes :
My all time favorite movies never change. In order they are:
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Honeymoon Killers
Black Narcissus
Rosemary's Baby
Alien
The Wild Bunch
My favorite directors, however, keep falling off their
pedastles. They are in chronological order:
Stanley Kubrick
Roman Polanski
David Lynch
Roman Polanski
Also, I greatly admire David Cronenberg and David Fincher.
Most of time are (or were) all talented directors, but I do think most
of them are on a similar level as Terry Giliam and David Lynch. And
because I've seen only three movies by Fincher, I'd still place him
below the former two. Alien 3 is ,IMO, the worst Alien movie, Seven
was an excellent one, but I was a bit dissapointed with "The Game".
Just an opinion
Moloko
Moloko
>"Mars Attacks" and "White Buffalo." There are no worse movies. Except for
>anything French, of course.
And how many French movies have you seen ? Have you ever tried or do
you just don't like the language ?
Moloko
J.J. Hunsecker
PaulB74075 wrote:
>
> Avast Ye,
>
> In honor of Dylan's Kennedy Center Honor, I'd like to award him yet another
> --i.e. The Worst Film I've Seen Award to "Renaldo and Clara."
>
You knucklehead,
We saw that movie together in New York back in the 70's! All
four hours and 15 minutes of it. We went to Paddy's Clam Bar and made
jokes about the old, old, old, waiter. Remember?
J.J. Hunsecker
J.J. Hunsecker
Powerslave wrote:
>
> RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
> BY: Sin...@webtv.net (Derrick Ferguson)
>
> -><685n1j$osl$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
> ->The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating movie
> ->watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
>
> At least you got to see Brooke Shields' tits, and there were some tense moments
> when they encountered the natives.
>
> Now, Blue Lagoon 2 was a real stinker.
>
> And for that matter, Ed Wood really blew, too.
Now just a doggone minute,
This world would be a much duller place if it weren't for Ed
Wood, Jr. His movies are every bit as entertaining as any other. My
only regret is that The Sinister Urge is not available on laserdisc.
J.J. Hunsecker
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
Mary Tiritilli
Two Moon Junction
East of Eden
Salo
Sliver
Jade
I did, however, think that "Showgirls" was a comic masterpiece...
Mary
Derrick Ferguson
I would much rather sit thru any Ed Wood movie an infinite number of
times than have to suffer thru THE BLUE LAGOON once again. And you mean
they had the BALLS to make a sequel to it? Give me strength....
Major Impact
2 Horrors from the 1950s.The Navy vs.
The Night Monsters with Mamie VAN Doren and I SAILED TO TAHITI WITH
AN ALL GIRL CREW.Anyone else see these bombs?
Time wounds all heels!!
l
terry w. luster
This ought to piss off a few cult movie snobs.....
I hated ERASERHEAD
(now followed by people telling me that
"I didn't get it" and "stick to mainstream films")
Do I know this group or what?
T.Luster
Powerslave
RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
BY: fdh...@club.innet.be (Moloko)
-><34a80e4d...@news.innet.be>
->On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 06:39:46 GMT, "Julien Bern"
-><jb...@andrew.stjohn.edu> wrote:
->
->>"Mars Attacks" and "White Buffalo." There are no worse movies. Except for
->>anything French, of course.
->
->And how many French movies have you seen ? Have you ever tried or do
->you just don't like the language ?
->
->Moloko
->
The language and the majority of French films I've seen are very nice.
However, French people, Parisians especially, are extraordinarily obnoxious to
Americans.
ellis
me. Bud, from Father Knows Best, having his arm torn off at the shoulder
and the resultant screaming and bleeding. At was at the age where my
reaction was "If they'll do THAT, they'll do anything" and it kep me on
edge for the rest of the movie waiting for an equally horrible death.
Ronald J. Whalen
Robert wrote:
>
> On 28 Dec 1997 08:51:27 GMT, subci...@aol.com (SubCin2001) wrote:
>
The worst movie I've ever seen is Bonfire of the Vanities-I didn't like
it when I first saw it when I was 11 years old, not funny or dramatic
and now that I'm older and having re-watched the movie again I still
don't like it. That is my choice for worst movie ever made-even
Morgan Freeman, one of the best actors working today who's in the movie
is bad in it. Other worst movies I've seen are:
1) SPEED 2:CRUISE CONTROL
2) BATMAN AND ROBIN
3) PROBLEM CHILD
4) TWIN PEAKS:FIRE WALK WITH ME
5) BASIC INSTINCT
6) DANTE'S PEAK
7) 101 DALMATIANS (LIVE-ACTION 1996 REMAKE)
8) SUPERMAN III
9) ALIEN 3
10) THE POSTMAN
11) HOOK
12) SUPERMAN IV:THE QUEST FOR PEACE
13) MONEY TRAIN
14) TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES III
15) STEPHEN KING'S THINNER
Ronie J Whalen
Michel
I agree. THE BLUE LAGOON is only palatable to a paedophile. Brooke is
not that good looking and was not at 14 either. Pretty face that's it.
hotbread
The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
You know how it's sometimes kind of fun to watch a bad movie? Not this one.
The movie is not even remotely watchable from a zany, kitschy level, it's
just plain stomach-turning. If you can watch it for more than 15 minutes
without becoming physically ill, you are either incredibly brave or your
soul has already been annihilated.
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The worst movie i“ve ever seen:
-"The bodyguard" with Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston.
Someone said that Mars Attacks! was the worst movie, How can you say
that???????? "Mars attacks!" is a masterwork!!!!!!!!! Tim Burton is
God!!!!!
They do it what they really want to do it, and Mars Attacks is a tribute to
the old sci-fi movies, and a parody of bad films like Independance Day or
something similar.
"Air Force One" is one of the best comedies that i see this year. Like an
action movie is horrible, but if you look that movie like a comedy is
really good! Like when Harrison Ford had to cut a cable, and said: "Blue,
White and Red don“t fail me now!" How I laugh with this!!! Even worse than
Ed Wood!!!!!!!
Terry Joynson
Can I make another claim for City Hall, featuring that truly abominable
funeral scene with Mayor Al hammering away on a dead kid's coffin? "This
used to be a palace!" etc.
Another Terry
"Put-him-in-the-curry!"
Bryan Shelton
Powerslave <us...@alpha.centauri.bbs> wrote:
: RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
: BY: Sin...@webtv.net (Derrick Ferguson)
: -><685n1j$osl$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
: ->The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating
: ->movie watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
: At least you got to see Brooke Shields' tits...
Don't you know ANYTHING?! It was well known and widely reported at the
time that Brooke had a body double for that scene. They were NOT her
tits! Sorry.
Bryan
Powerslave
RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
-><34A849...@earthlink.net>
->Powerslave wrote:
->>
->> RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
->> BY: Sin...@webtv.net (Derrick Ferguson)
->>
->> -><685n1j$osl$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
->> ->The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating movie
->> ->watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
->>
->> At least you got to see Brooke Shields' tits, and there were some tense mom
->> when they encountered the natives.
->>
->> Now, Blue Lagoon 2 was a real stinker.
->>
->> And for that matter, Ed Wood really blew, too.
->Now just a doggone minute,
->This world would be a much duller place if it weren't for Ed
->Wood, Jr. His movies are every bit as entertaining as any other. My
->only regret is that The Sinister Urge is not available on laserdisc.
->J.J. Hunsecker
Hold up there, sparky. I think you misread my post.
Ed Wood'S movies were some great, campy pieces of artwork.
The MOVIE Ed Wood (With Bill Murray, etc.) was boring as hell.
Powerslave
RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
-><689rpg$sat$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
->I would much rather sit thru any Ed Wood movie an infinite number of
->times than have to suffer thru THE BLUE LAGOON once again. And you mean
->they had the BALLS to make a sequel to it? Give me strength....
For the second time, I was referring to the film Ed Wood, about his life.
His collection of movies was very amusing.
Powerslave
RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
-><68cfq3$4ja$1...@uhura1.phoenix.net>
->Powerslave <us...@alpha.centauri.bbs> wrote:
->: RE: Re: Worst movie you've seen
->: BY: Sin...@webtv.net (Derrick Ferguson)
->: -><685n1j$osl$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
->: ->The Blue Lagoon is without a doubt the most painful, excrutiating
->: ->movie watching experince I have ever had in my entire life.
->: At least you got to see Brooke Shields' tits...
->Don't you know ANYTHING?! It was well known and widely reported at the
->time that Brooke had a body double for that scene. They were NOT her
->tits! Sorry.
->Bryan
Tits are tits. yadda yadda. I never cared enough about the movie to bother
paying attention to nifty bits of behind the scenes information.
Michel
hotbread wrote:
>
> The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
> Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
> Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
> drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
> to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
>
> You know how it's sometimes kind of fun to watch a bad movie? Not this one.
>
> The movie is not even remotely watchable from a zany, kitschy level, it's
> just plain stomach-turning. If you can watch it for more than 15 minutes
> without becoming physically ill, you are either incredibly brave or your
> soul has already been annihilated.
I'll have to agree with this one - at least until KIDS came out it was
the worst movie ever made...
jean
"Manos - The Hands of Fate" - unlike "Plan 9", it's not so inept & inane
it's fun. Unless viewed on MST3K!
jean
jean
"I Spit On Your Grave" - I hated myself for watching all of it... it was
so abominable, I kept thinking it's gotta have some kind of point other
than 'let's see how many ways we can rape this chick for 90 minutes'.
Then, to cap it off, the "revenge" scenes were just as loathesome. I
think this might be the one truly shit-sucking flick that was so awful
it never got a cult following - or at least any that I've ever heard of
during my 30 years of cult movie fanaticism.
jean
Cliff Frish
Worst movie ever made: Dumb & Dumber
2d worst movie ever made: Play Misty for Me
My opinion, of course.
James K. Richter Jr.
The Island (YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!)
Israel Putnam
any american mande Ninja movie.
Tombeifuss
The worst movie I ever saw was "Arthur 2: On the Rocks"
Thahd
(Adam Gott)
I hate it when this thread comes up because there are always tons of
people that name movies like 'Speed 2', 'Problem Child 2', 'Batman and
Robin', 'Waterworld' (which I liked), etc. These movies may be the
most dissapointing movies ever made or even 'shittiest movie that you
ever anticipated watching' but to call these the worst movies of all
time is a farce.
If you honestly believe that Speed 2 was the worst movie that you have
ever seen you need to check out some more bad movies (Plan 9 from
Outer Space is a good starter that is easy to find at a lot of video
stores). My vote goes to most any sexploitation horror/scifi movie
made in the 60's and early 70's.
Speed 2 may have sucked (and sucked hard) but it can't hold a candle
on the suck scale to any Ed Wood movies (Orgy of the Dead is actually
worse than Plan 9 from Outer Space).
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Well, that's why it's titled "worst you've seen". Not worst of all time.
And I agree. If Speed 2 is the worst thing you've ever seen. You need to
see more bad movies.
Hey, Orgy of the Dead was bad. But it's good/bad. A truly "bad" movie
has to be in that special spot. Films like Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo,
Superman IV, Spasms. Just garbage.
Dan Gaertner
Romero And Julliet(1996)
Cry Baby
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JSheri6299
I don't care if it's recent or obvious-Batman and Robin is the lamest, most
offensive piece of cinematic dung ever put upon the people of this world. I
work at a video store and someone threw it in tonight and I'm constantly
staggered at how excrutiating it is to watch 2 minutes.
Chris Cannon
In article <6842cf$hft$1...@newsd-154.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
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>Personally, it was Megaforce. With Xanadu ranking a close second.
Turbulence. Not even close.
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Hey Superman IV wasn't that bad..it had two a "good" SuperVillians...Lex
luthor..and that Sun guy
Michel
KIDS - hands down.
Jaedeshi
> Turbulence. Not even close.
(groan) The only positive thing I could say about this movie was that I only
paid $2.75 to rent it instead of shelling out $5 for the matinee or HEAVEN
FORBID! $8.50 full price.
J
Jaedeshi
>15) STEPHEN KING'S THINNER
Funny...I read the book first thinking 'Geesh, I hope the movie will be
better!' Yeah, right....
J
F#*&ed Up Film Boy
Independence Day, The Island of Doctor Moreau and Spawn are the worst
films I have ever seen. That's a really shitty sign of the times
considering they all came out within the last 24 months.
Vincent G. Macek
I'm sure there're much worse, but I saw one in the '70s called CLONES
that was dreary and dull as hell. Even PLAN 9 and MANOS have a spark of
life in them, relatively speaking.
VMacek
Ronald J. Whalen
THE BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES
SPEED 2:CRUISE CONTROL
BATMAN AND ROBIN
FLUBBER
EXORCIST II
Mary Tiritilli
This film snob liked "Eraserhead"--however, she has noticed that the
film had a very "love it or hate it" effect on many, some of whom were
artsy types. So you're not alone.
Mary
Jack Cook
Jack Cook
Joe Blevins
Aw, c'mon, Jack. Was "Pennies" really that bad...?
(As if I don't already know his answer. If he didn't mean it, he
wouldn't have said it.)
Seriously, though, I loved "Eraserhead" and really liked "Pennies From
Heaven." (I own both of 'em.) I can easily understand why some people
"hate" these films, though. "Eraserhead" can either be totally
engrossing or the cinematic equivalent of watching paint dry. I'm glad
I was one of the people who found it fascinating instead of numbing.
And even as a fan, I can see how "Pennies From Heaven" might rub people
the wrong way. First off, it's a Steve Martin movie that not only ISN'T
a comedy but is actually very downbeat. Second, there are some musical
numbers that are so corny they even make me cringe. However, on the
plus side, there are some really great scenes in it, and it truly IS
different from your average Hollywood feature. Christopher Walken's
"Let's Misbehave" number alone saves the whole movie for me. "Yes Yes,"
"Life Is Just a Bowl of Cherries," "Face the Music," "It's a Sin to Tell
a Lie," and the title song are also very effective... if lavish musical
1930s-style numbers that interrupt the movie every few minutes are your
thing. If not, "Pennies" can be tough sledding.
I don't really think there are any bad movies. I don't think there are
any good ones, either. There are just movies that are either
well-suited or poorly-suited to the tastes of individual audience
members. I'm sure that someone out there thought "The Flintstones" was
a good movie. From the box office totals, there must have been many of
these people. I wasn't one of them, but so what? If *you* liked it, it
was a good movie.
--Joe--
Jack Cook
Pennies From Haven
Jack Cook
Alric Knebel
>ju...@printnet.com (hotbread) wrote:
>The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
>Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
>Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
>drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
>to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Wait. Are you saying that the Beatles music was being used made it
WORSE? Or or you saying instead that it DEBASED The Beatles having
their music in this film, and THAT'S the insult to the injury?
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al...@datasync.com
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Michael Brooke
terry w. luster <ts...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> This ought to piss off a few cult movie snobs.....
> I hated ERASERHEAD
> (now followed by people telling me that
> "I didn't get it" and "stick to mainstream films")
Hardly - much like any other David Lynch film, people react to it
entirely subjectively, and it's hardly surprising that a film that's so
extreme on every level (narrative, visuals, gross-out factor) provokes
loathing among many. I'd be surprised if it didn't! In fact, I'm
surprised it's managed the kind of following that it has done!
What annoys me is when people (*not* you!) then use their entirely
rational dislike of it (or any film) as the sole justification for
claiming that it's a total waste of celluloid - which is particularly
ridiculous in the case of 'Eraserhead' which if nothing else is one of
the most phenomenal technical achievements in cinema history considering
the budget (does anyone know just how low it was? I heard $10,000 -
i.e. 'Pink Flamingos' level - but I haven't had any confirmation).
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Joe Blevins <joe...@concentric.net> wrote:
> I don't really think there are any bad movies. I don't think there are
> any good ones, either. There are just movies that are either
> well-suited or poorly-suited to the tastes of individual audience
> members. I'm sure that someone out there thought "The Flintstones" was
> a good movie. From the box office totals, there must have been many of
> these people. I wasn't one of them, but so what? If *you* liked it, it
> was a good movie.
And that's about the most sensible thing I've ever seen in a thread
containing the words "worst movie"! After all, even 'Manos: The Hands
of Fate' has entertainment value if you're in a *really* strange kind of
mood...
hotbread
In article <68olju$st4$2...@osh2.datasync.com>, al...@datasync.com (Alric
Knebel) wrote:
> >ju...@printnet.com (hotbread) wrote:
>
> >The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
> >Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
> >Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
> >drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
> >to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> Wait. Are you saying that the Beatles music was being used made it
> WORSE? Or or you saying instead that it DEBASED The Beatles having
> their music in this film, and THAT'S the insult to the injury?
I am saying the fact that they somehow got the rights to use the most
masterfully crafted music of modern times adds a horrifying back story to
the entire production. So yes, the presence of Beatles music makes the
movie WORSE, but not because the Beatles are lousy. It's because it's being
performed by the likes of Peter Frampton and Alice Cooper!!! (For the
record, the Beatles are the best.)
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Georyn
terry w. luster wrote:
> This ought to piss off a few cult movie snobs.....
> I hated ERASERHEAD
> (now followed by people telling me that
> "I didn't get it" and "stick to mainstream films")
I can say one good thing about "Eraserhead". It's not "Blue Velvet".
Seriously, Lynch should be severely punished for reviving Dennis Hopper's
career. But then, Lynch is to real surrealism what Kenny G is to real jazz.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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hotbread
In article <68pbrd$h...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>, Davey Tilt
<qu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >ju...@printnet.com (hotbread) wrote:
> >>
> >> >The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
> >> >Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
> >> >Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
> >> >drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
> >> >to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
> >> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> >.. . . . . . . . . . . .
> >>
>
> Aww come on, it wasn't THAT bad, and it sure as shit isn't too far off
from what the Beatles
> would have done if THEY had made the film. If the Beatles had still been
around in the Late 70's
> and survived the disco era through BeeGee's world boogie domination they
would have needed a
> vehicle to "get back" into the spotlight. Throw in a good dose the
irrational thought that
> accompanies drug abuse they probably would have done ANYTHING thrown
their way. YES, even dress
> up in sequined suits and get killed by Steven Tyler. I always had the
impression that if the
> Beatles kept it up in the 70's they would have turned into cape wearing
progressive rock
> burnouts.
>
> Keep in Mind when the movie was made, BeeGees/Beatles Comparisons were
the rage. The Beegees had
> matched the Beatles sweep of billboard's top 5, there were 4 of
each(including Andy "Speedball"
> Gibb), they were from England and a whole mess of other similarities
dreamed up by the press and
> publicists. The Beatles reunion rumours were never stronger than at this time.
>
> This film is pure late 70's fluf and made with marketing in mind.
Stigwood was hot after
> Saturnday Night fever and George Martin was unemployed, what else do you want?
>
> In My opinion, the real crime against Humanity is the choice of Michael
Schultz as director. How
> could THE MAN responsible for Cooley High, Car Wash, Which Way Is Up and
Greased Lightning turn
> to directing the "whitest" movie ever made??? not even KRUSH GROOVE 8
years later could redeem
> him.
>
> I know you hold the Beatles in high regard but don't take it out on this
film, it WAS George
> "the 5th beatle" Martin's idea to allow this to happen.
>
> :)
You make some good points, but I stand by my original statement.
We could argue for hours about where the Beatles would have been had they not
broken up in 1969. (I agree with you about your "prog rocker" scenario). Let's
look at what really HAPPENED. Here are the facts: a not-too-talented,
flash-in-the-pan rock group (the Bee Gees) appears in a movie which apes
every big hit by arguably the most talented and creative rock group in the
history of rock (the Beatles). All in a desperate attempt to garner as many
comparisons to the Beatles as possible (for publicity reasons).
I think the movie itself is very crappy. But when you look at the situation
behind the making of the movie, it just transcends crap-ness and achieves a
whole new level of crappitude.
By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
movies,
they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks, and would
have been
INFINITELY more enjoyable than anything Stigwood & his disco machine could have
vomited forth.
George Harrison and John Lennon both had wicked senses of humor, George
Harrison funded the production
of Life of Brian (and assisted in the formation of Handmade Films). Can you
imagine
a flick with the bizarre humor of Python combined with the awesome music of
the Beatles?
I had forgotten about George Martin's complicity in the making of this
movie. Thanks for reminding me. Now I'm going to have nightmares. ;)
Every best wish,
-Joe
Ray Tucker
On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:25:48 -0500, ju...@printnet.com (hotbread)
wrote:
On the good side of things, Robert Stigwood sank every cent he had
into this film which bombed horribly. I worked in a record store at
the time and the album shipped double platinum, but industry returns
were at least 90%. I think it even caused major changes in how
Billboard tracked record sales.
Davey Tilt
Michael Brooke
Georyn <geo...@aol.com> wrote:
> terry w. luster wrote:
>
> > This ought to piss off a few cult movie snobs.....
> > I hated ERASERHEAD
> > (now followed by people telling me that
> > "I didn't get it" and "stick to mainstream films")
>
> I can say one good thing about "Eraserhead". It's not "Blue Velvet".
> Seriously, Lynch should be severely punished for reviving Dennis Hopper's
> career. But then, Lynch is to real surrealism what Kenny G is to real jazz.
Define "real surrealism". Lynch may not be a card-carrying Surrealist
like Luis Bunuel or Jan Svankmajer, but the mental processes he uses to
create his films seem to me to be more or less identical - particularly
in 'Eraserhead', 'Fire Walk With Me' and 'Lost Highway'.
Michael
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>The worst movie of all time is
>without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's
>Lonely
>Hearts Club Band.
I remember reading one of the funniest letters to the editor at Rolling Stone
magazine with this cheeser came out. The writer said that if you bought the
soundtrack album and played it backwards, you could hear Paul screaming "I wish
I were dead!"
Chris.
Bryan Shelton
Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: Georyn <geo...@aol.com> wrote:
: >But then, Lynch is to real surrealism what Kenny G is to real jazz.
: Define "real surrealism".
What a hilarious oxymoron "real surrealism" is!
I laughed out loud when I read it!
Bryan
dw
I understood what he meant when i read it, but it was pretty funny i have to
admit.
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Michel
Davey Tilt wrote:
>
> >> >ju...@printnet.com (hotbread) wrote:
> >>
> >> >The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
> >> >Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
> >> >drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
> >> >to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
> >> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> >.. . . . . . . . . . . .
> >>
>
> Aww come on, it wasn't THAT bad, and it sure as shit isn't too far off from what the Beatles
> would have done if THEY had made the film. If the Beatles had still been around in the Late 70's
> and survived the disco era through BeeGee's world boogie domination they would have needed a
> vehicle to "get back" into the spotlight.
The Stones didn't....and they survived...they took a little longer to
lose their dignity...
Throw in a good dose the irrational thought that
> accompanies drug abuse they probably would have done ANYTHING thrown their way. YES, even dress
> up in sequined suits and get killed by Steven Tyler. I always had the impression that if the
> Beatles kept it up in the 70's they would have turned into cape wearing progressive rock
> burnouts.
Hard to say. On alt.history.what-if I wrote a thread where the histories
of the Stones and Beatles were reversed in a sense ; the Stones broke up
with Brian Jones leaving and the Beatles replaced McCartney and kept on
going through the 70s. Of course that would have not so much impacted
the quality of their output as it would have killed their record sales,
as the Beatles' popularity would have carried over to Wings and the
Beatles would have turned into a combination of Plastic Ono Band and All
Things Must Pass. By the mid seventies they probably would have broken
up from the conflicts of the other members.
> Keep in Mind when the movie was made, BeeGees/Beatles Comparisons were the rage.
Not for the first time. The Bee Gees in the sixties were regarded as a
more bubblegummy version of the Beatles, competing with the Monkees.
The Beegees had
> matched the Beatles sweep of billboard's top 5, there were 4 of each(including Andy "Speedball"
> Gibb), they were from England
MS : Australia actually, though they moved to England for The British
Invasion.
and a whole mess of other similarities dreamed up by the press and
> publicists. The Beatles reunion rumours were never stronger than at this time.
>
> This film is pure late 70's fluf and made with marketing in mind. Stigwood was hot after
> Saturnday Night fever and George Martin was unemployed, what else do you want?
>
> In My opinion, the real crime against Humanity is the choice of Michael Schultz as director. How
> could THE MAN responsible for Cooley High, Car Wash, Which Way Is Up and Greased Lightning turn
> to directing the "whitest" movie ever made??? not even KRUSH GROOVE 8 years later could redeem
> him.
>
> I know you hold the Beatles in high regard but don't take it out on this film, it WAS George
> "the 5th beatle" Martin's idea to allow this to happen.
But did he write the script or approve the casting of Peter Frampton ?
:)
kevin king
>By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
>movies,
>they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks
Do you mean like 'Tragical History Tour,' or 'All You Need Is Cash?'
Other than 'Hard Day's Night' and 'Yellow Submarine' I think their
movies were fairly horrible. And I doubt they would have been
incapable of making more horrible films in the 70's had they not
broken up. Sgt. Pepper's is SO bad that it's kinda charming... and
SO 70's with it's sentimental boogie star machine aesthetic that I
can't resist it. I mean, it's just too funny and weird to hate
(unless you have a special vendetta against the BeeGees, which would
maybe be understandable - tho' no one better lay a hand on my 'Jive
Talkin' single). Sure, it smells and is at times painful to watch
(listen to) - it assaults all senses. But I, for one, am somehow
perversely glad that it exists as an oddly logical link in the
progression of pop/rock musicals. Go ahead, laugh.
Luis Canau
raym...@nr.infi.net (Ray Tucker) wrote:
[...]
>On the good side of things, Robert Stigwood sank every cent he had
>into this film which bombed horribly. I worked in a record store at
>the time and the album shipped double platinum, but industry returns
>were at least 90%. I think it even caused major changes in how
>Billboard tracked record sales.
Come on, stop sending 108 lines if you write only 5. Are we supposed to read
all the other 103? No? Then deleted them. Please.
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Davey Tilt responds:
<<Aww come on, it wasn't THAT bad, and it sure as shit isn't too far off
from what the Beatles
would have done if THEY had made the film. If the Beatles had still been
around in the Late 70's
and survived the disco era through BeeGee's world boogie domination they
would have needed a
vehicle to "get back" into the spotlight. Throw in a good dose the
irrational thought that
accompanies drug abuse they probably would have done ANYTHING thrown
their way. YES, even dress
up in sequined suits and get killed by Steven Tyler. I always had the
impression that if the
Beatles kept it up in the 70's they would have turned into cape wearing
progressive rock
burnouts...>>
Holy Shamoly, that is some alternative reality spinning there. Based on
the ex-fabs' real paths in the '70s I can't imagine that happening.
Well, maybe with Paul, but otherwise...
VMacek
Vincent G. Macek
On 4 Jan 1998 21:46:24 GMT, geo...@aol.com (Georyn) wrote:
> But then, Lynch is to real surrealism what Kenny G is to real jazz.
Yeah, what was the big deal with playing a sustained note for 20
minutes? So he's got circular breathing down. You could strap his sax
to a shop vac and get the same results. It's now officially in the
record books; Kenny G blows.
VMacek, off subject
hotbread
In article <34b14acd...@news1.radix.net>, nos...@radix.net (kevin
king) wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:25:48 -0500, ju...@printnet.com (hotbread)
> wrote:
>
>
> >By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
> >movies,
> >they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks
>
> Do you mean like 'Tragical History Tour,' or 'All You Need Is Cash?'
'The Rutles' is exactly what I was thinking of... you will notice that
George Harrison was involved in that (I think he had a few cameo
appearances). For the most part, the Beatles' solo efforts in film have
been pitiful. Did you see "Caveman," for instance? Yikes. Or "Give My
Regards to Broad Street?" Ouch.
By the way, ironically, when this thread started out as "Worst Movie You've
Seen," I seriously considered posting my pick as "Caveman."
> But I, for one, am somehow
> perversely glad that it exists as an oddly logical link in the
> progression of pop/rock musicals. Go ahead, laugh.
No laughing here. I admire your brutal honesty. But I can never agree!!!
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band deserves a place in movie history
only as a warning to future generations. We must never forget, lest we be
doomed to repeat!
Phil Dennison
>On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:25:48 -0500, ju...@printnet.com (hotbread)
>wrote:
>
>
>>By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
>>movies,
>>they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks
>
>Do you mean like 'Tragical History Tour,' or 'All You Need Is Cash?'
>
>Other than 'Hard Day's Night' and 'Yellow Submarine' I think their
>movies were fairly horrible.
Yeah. All one of them. The Beatles had nothing whatsoever to do with the
making of "Yellow Submarine" aside from a brief, unrelated appearance at
the end. The only other Beatles movie is "Help!" (I guess since "Let It
Be" is a documentary, it's not considered to be of the same type as the
other two.) "A Hard Day's Night" is a classic film by anyone's standards.
It captured a moment in time perfectly, the writing was superlative, and
the acting was far better than probably anybody including the band, might
have thought. "Help!", while nowhere near the class of "AHDN", still has
some good writing and great delivery.
Daniel Fredrick Etter
> appearances). For the most part, the Beatles' solo efforts in film have
> been pitiful. Did you see "Caveman," for instance? Yikes. Or "Give My
> Regards to Broad Street?" Ouch.
Oh, now you've done it. Caveman is great. I made a audio recording of the
cave man jam session even. I don't understand how anyone with a sense of
humore couldn't love Caveman. Even recently, when it showed up on TV, I
ended up watching most of it, even though I watched it probably 15 times
in high school.
> By the way, ironically, when this thread started out as "Worst Movie You've
> Seen," I seriously considered posting my pick as "Caveman."
You're mad, mad I tell you.
>
> > But I, for one, am somehow
> > perversely glad that it exists as an oddly logical link in the
> > progression of pop/rock musicals. Go ahead, laugh.
>
> No laughing here. I admire your brutal honesty. But I can never agree!!!
>
> Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band deserves a place in movie history
> only as a warning to future generations. We must never forget, lest we be
> doomed to repeat!
I went to see SPLHCB (try pronouncing that acronym, sort of self
descriptive) when it came out and I was midly entertained. That was the
only time I ever saw it, but I remember some parts being pretty fun. I
mean, it's not nearly as bad as Xanadu or Stayin' Alive, fer chrissakes.
And I agree with whoever said that the Beatles wouldn't have done any
better. Of the four only Lennon, possibly, had any sort of higher
aesthetic sense. Think about it, Ringo? Paul? George? I can't imagine any
of them doing any better than the Bee Gees in a film version.
Dan
kevin king
>In article <34b14acd...@news1.radix.net>,
>nos...@radix.net (kevin king) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:25:48 -0500, ju...@printnet.com (hotbread)
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
>>>movies,
>>>they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks
>>
>>Do you mean like 'Tragical History Tour,' or 'All You Need Is Cash?'
>>
>>Other than 'Hard Day's Night' and 'Yellow Submarine' I think their
>>movies were fairly horrible.
>
>Yeah. All one of them. The Beatles had nothing whatsoever to do with the
>making of "Yellow Submarine" aside from a brief, unrelated appearance at
>the end. The only other Beatles movie is "Help!"
You've overlooked (perhaps subconsciously) the catastrophe hinted at
above... Magical Mystery Tour, which they had quite a lot to do
with... starring in and directing.
"this little piggie stayed home,"
Christopher M. Stangl
On 4 Jan 1998, Georyn wrote:
> terry w. luster wrote:
>
> > This ought to piss off a few cult movie snobs.....
> > I hated ERASERHEAD
> > (now followed by people telling me that
> > "I didn't get it" and "stick to mainstream films")
>
> I can say one good thing about "Eraserhead". It's not "Blue Velvet".
> Seriously, Lynch should be severely punished for reviving Dennis Hopper's
> career. But then, Lynch is to real surrealism what Kenny G is to real jazz.
>
> MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
I don't think David Lynch has any delusions about being a
surrealist. His post "Eraserhead" work has scenes of intentional
creepiness and weird behavior, scenes that could be described as
surreal... but he has made no claims to be a surrealist filmmaker.
(Though some of the original Surrealists, after witnessing
"Sherlock Jr." claimed Buster Keaton as one of their own... if Buster
Keaton's a surrealist, than I don't see how you could count Lynch out.)
-Chris Stangl
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: >>By the way, I think if the Beatles had stayed together, and decided to do
: >>movies,
: >>they would have been more along the lines of Monty Python flicks
: >
Check out Joe Orton's screenplay for the Beatles called _UP Against It_.
Richard Lester's chaffeur was picking up Orton from his bedsit to discuss
the script and found Orton dead, brains bashed in by his lover. It's not
a great screenplay - the Beatles had already turned it down - but read it
with a mind to the Beatles in it in their Sgt. Pepper, 19th century
anarchist mode.
-- Dave Clarke
Danny Ocean
Ahoy there,
That sounds like something Surrealists would say.
Buster Keaton is NOT a surrealist.
J.J. Hunsecker
Brad Filippone
Michel (ba...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: Derrick Ferguson wrote:
: >
: > I would much rather sit thru any Ed Wood movie an infinite number of
: > times than have to suffer thru THE BLUE LAGOON once again. And you mean
: > they had the BALLS to make a sequel to it? Give me strength....
: I agree. THE BLUE LAGOON is only palatable to a paedophile. Brooke is
: not that good looking and was not at 14 either. Pretty face that's it.
But she had such a cute bodysuit on!
Brad Filippone
Michel (sanl...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: hotbread wrote:
: >
: > The worst movie of all time is without a doubt, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely
: > Hearts Club Band. This stinkeroo combined the Bee Gees, Peter Frampton,
: > Alice Cooper, George Burns and Earth, Wind and Fire into a huge,
: > drug-induced mess. The fact that they are using Beatles music adds insult
: > to injury. This movie is a crime against humanity.
: > You know how it's sometimes kind of fun to watch a bad movie? Not this one.
: >
: > The movie is not even remotely watchable from a zany, kitschy level, it's
: > just plain stomach-turning. If you can watch it for more than 15 minutes
: > without becoming physically ill, you are either incredibly brave or your
: > soul has already been annihilated.
: I'll have to agree with this one - at least until KIDS came out it was
: the worst movie ever made...
What was the matter with "kids"? To depresing for you?
Adam Richards
I think the worst film I ever saw was "It's Alive", a 1968 cheapie
(not the 1974 movie about man-eating babies), probably followed by
"Mame".
<Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk>
Adam Richards
Forgive me, but does anybody out there have a copy of the 1975 musical
"At Long Last Love" they don't want? I've heard so much about how
terrible it is that I'm dying to see it!!
Christopher M. Stangl
I'm aware of that. But it doesn't seem to have been a joke- they
recognized the anarchic spirit in his work (an equal case could be made
for the classicist heart of his work- eh- see the fun new collection of
essays on "Sherlock Jr." for that debate. It ain't my problem).
-Chris Stangl
Adam Richards
Adam Richards
Adam Richards
Adam Richards
EgoistX
I would have to say that the worst piece of crap I spent money to see in a
theater was Universal Soldier - I was forced to go because a friend of my bro's
wanted to see it (well, she was cute afterall - LOL). Well, my brother fell
asleep, and the friend and I laughed riotously throughout it.
Years later, I learned that this film was made by Roland Emmerich. It
definitely shows.
-EgoistX
"It is by will alone that I set my mind in motion. . ." - Mentat Piter de Vries
J.J. Hunsecker
Ahoy there,
I wouldn't mind seeing that one myself. I read about it in a
book called the Fifty Worst Film Ever Made and it's sort of a throwback
to the musicals made in the thirties in that the singing was not dubbed
later, but recorded live on the set.
Good luck, J.J. Hunsecker
cart...@vianet.net.au
<snipped! somebody saw 'Its Alive!' (its from 1969 though...)>
I've seen that movie! (not the baby one, which i've also seen) I've loved
that, because of its laminosity! the 'IT' is piss weak. and Tommy kirk is in
it! I forgot all about this movie but i've now been reminded. its these kind
of movies that make having a VCR very handy, which i use every day
Meowmiao
Some of the all-time gut-clenching stinkers I've had the misfortune of
personally witnessing:
~Vegas Vacation=didn't laugh, didn't chuckle, didn't even smile.
~Spawn=cheesy, and not even in a good way. WTF was up with that devil?
~Haunted Honeymoon=the only movie I've ever walked out of
~White of the Eye=made me physically sick...had to run out of the room to vomit
~I hesitate to even bring this one up, because I KNOW somebody is going to
vehemently disagree with me on this one in a.c-m, but...The Reflecting Skin.
<cowering>
~Sliver (grrrrrrrrreat ending)
~Meow
"Hey, that kinda looks like..Tom Selleck!"