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samsloan
Dec 26, 2011, 12:01:32 AM12/26/11
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On Nov 24, 7:25 pm, raylopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 10:00 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 24, 4:53 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 24, 8:55 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I think there are reasons why apparent suicides should not be
> > > > mentioned, mainly because of the likelihood of copy-cats.
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> > > > I am very upset about a Japanese movie that depicts 54 Japanese girls
> > > > holding hands and smiling as they jump in front of a subway train and
> > > > kill themselves. Such a movie should never have been made (even though
> > > > it was a commercial and financial success) and, since it was made, it
> > > > should never be shown, I am sorry I saw it myself.
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> > > > Sam Sloan
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> > > You saw a snuff film and failed to report it to police? You are more
> > > sleazy than the real Sam Sloan, or Charlie Sheen. Sheen once reported
> > > to police what he thought was a snuff film (turns out it was fake, but
> > > it shows Sheen does have some sense of morality).
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> > > RL
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> > The movie I describe was not a "snuff film". It was a first run movie
> > that won prizes at the Cannes Film Festival, especially for the scene
> > where the wheel of the subway train runs over the teenaged girls head
> > and splatters blood all over everywhere.
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> > In my opinion the movie should never have been made and should never
> > be shown. It shows how low movie producers will go to make a buck.
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> > Sam Sloan
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> It turns out, having spoke to a Hollywood producer, that the cheapest
> and most profitable film you can make is aslasher/horror film. The
> actors can be no-names that you can kill off in the movie so you don't
> have to worry about them making demands in any remake (see for example
> any "Final Destination XYZ" film), and the public worldwide loves
> these films.
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> The hardest films to make are ones that depict sex in any serious way
> (except porn), because of worldwide taboos. And forget about mixing
> children with animals and humor--a disaster! Comic films are also
> difficult to make unless you have a name-brand actor like Jim Carrey,
> Peter Sellers, John Candy, Jerry Lewis, Steve Martin, etc, and you
> notice now that these actors are retired or dead, you don't see any
> comedies much on the silver screen?
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> Hollywood is all formulaic, predictable crap, not far removed, if not
> identical to, Bollywood fare but without the song and dance. No
> wonder I hardly go to the movies.
Having successfully published books I am thinking about trying movies.
Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
Any ideas?
> On Nov 24, 10:00 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 24, 4:53 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 24, 8:55 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I think there are reasons why apparent suicides should not be
> > > > mentioned, mainly because of the likelihood of copy-cats.
>
> > > > I am very upset about a Japanese movie that depicts 54 Japanese girls
> > > > holding hands and smiling as they jump in front of a subway train and
> > > > kill themselves. Such a movie should never have been made (even though
> > > > it was a commercial and financial success) and, since it was made, it
> > > > should never be shown, I am sorry I saw it myself.
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> > > > Sam Sloan
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> > > You saw a snuff film and failed to report it to police? You are more
> > > sleazy than the real Sam Sloan, or Charlie Sheen. Sheen once reported
> > > to police what he thought was a snuff film (turns out it was fake, but
> > > it shows Sheen does have some sense of morality).
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> > > RL
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> > The movie I describe was not a "snuff film". It was a first run movie
> > that won prizes at the Cannes Film Festival, especially for the scene
> > where the wheel of the subway train runs over the teenaged girls head
> > and splatters blood all over everywhere.
>
> > In my opinion the movie should never have been made and should never
> > be shown. It shows how low movie producers will go to make a buck.
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> > Sam Sloan
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> It turns out, having spoke to a Hollywood producer, that the cheapest
> and most profitable film you can make is aslasher/horror film. The
> actors can be no-names that you can kill off in the movie so you don't
> have to worry about them making demands in any remake (see for example
> any "Final Destination XYZ" film), and the public worldwide loves
> these films.
>
> The hardest films to make are ones that depict sex in any serious way
> (except porn), because of worldwide taboos. And forget about mixing
> children with animals and humor--a disaster! Comic films are also
> difficult to make unless you have a name-brand actor like Jim Carrey,
> Peter Sellers, John Candy, Jerry Lewis, Steve Martin, etc, and you
> notice now that these actors are retired or dead, you don't see any
> comedies much on the silver screen?
>
> Hollywood is all formulaic, predictable crap, not far removed, if not
> identical to, Bollywood fare but without the song and dance. No
> wonder I hardly go to the movies.
Having successfully published books I am thinking about trying movies.
Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
Any ideas?
raylopez99
Dec 26, 2011, 7:36:37 AM12/26/11
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On Dec 26, 1:01 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
> In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
> an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
> is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
> shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
> seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
> with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
> Any ideas?
I have contacts in NYC but I don't want my real identity compromised
> Do you know where one finds no-name stars to appear in these movies?
> In the old days people would line up around the block for a chance for
> an audition to appear in a movie. Is that still true? More important,
> is there still money to be made from movies? With all the Jason,
> shasher, kill them all and chop them plus hard core movies it would
> seem that these themes are exhausted. I just bought a disk for $19.95
> with 24 old slasher movies on it. Hard to make serious money this way.
> Any ideas?
my mentioning them here. As there are six degrees of Kevin Bacon in
this world, chances are you know some of the same people. In short,
ask your NYC friends.
And slasher films are still cheap and profitable--not unlike Mexican
food in the restaurant business. There's always more room in this
world and in people's stomachs for another greasy, gaseous taco.
As for horror, I see Final Destination 5 had a sizable budget and
barely broke even--I guess they spent a lot of money on the special
effects (it was 3D). Certainly not on the disposable and all killed
off at the end actors.
Why don't you start with script writing Sam? For a couple of weeks of
work you can pick up $10k to $100k--not bad--and they might let you
loiter around the set when they shoot.
RL
Final Destination 5
Domestic Total Gross: $42,587,643
Distributor: Warner Bros. (New Line) Release Date: August 12, 2011
Genre: Horror Runtime: 1 hrs. 35 min.
MPAA Rating: R Production Budget: $40 million
samsloan
Dec 26, 2011, 1:10:00 PM12/26/11
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terrible movies that nevertheless get made I think I can do better.
What got me on this subject is I am writing up some Linda Blair
movies. There is a truly bankable top level star and everybody knows
her name but nevertheless she descended to making Class C movies. Some
of the budgets for those movies were less than I thought she would be
paid.
I am not sure what this proves. I am a bit like you in that I fear my
reputation would be ruined if I starting writing scripts for these
kind of movies, not that I have such a pristine pure reputation
already.
The basic plot line is: All the girls have sex and then they get
chopped up into little pieces except that there is one girl who does
not have sex and she survives.
Is the world still ready for a few more movies like that?
Taylor Kingston
Dec 26, 2011, 2:59:12 PM12/26/11
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On Dec 26, 10:10 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I fear my
> reputation would be ruined if I starting writing scripts for these
> kind of movies,
Sam, for you this is like a porn star worrying that she might show
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> I fear my
> reputation would be ruined if I starting writing scripts for these
> kind of movies,
too much ankle.
samsloan
Dec 26, 2011, 5:43:24 PM12/26/11
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On Dec 26, 10:10 am, samsloan <samhsl...@gmail.com> wrote:
In all the Jason movies and the other movies, all the girls who have
sex get killed and chopped up and the one off-ball girl who does not
have sex survives.
This is wrong. It should be all the girls who do not have sex are
killed and after all what good are they anyway and all the girls who
do have sex and are in the vast majority survive. Thus, we have a
nicer movie, less girls are killed, more have sex and it mirrors
reality as in real life most girls do have sex and they live longer
than those who do not.
None
Dec 27, 2011, 2:06:07 PM12/27/11
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