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Why is Tim Curry in such shitty movies?

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John Davey

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Jul 5, 2002, 12:44:56 AM7/5/02
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I just wondered. I mean, as I understand it , part of the reason he distanced
himself from Rocky was because he didn't want to be typecast and get some
decent roles. Wel, what the hell happened.

he's had a gem here and there, Pass The ammo, clue, Blue Money(although a bad
movie, still fucking hilarious, if not for his imperssonations alone).

But the rest of his body of owrk McHale's navy, Home alone 2, congo, The Shout,
Passed Away, IT(although I liked his character, it was still a shitty movie)
(haven't seen the hunt for red october, but , it has Sean Connery in it, that
just screams bad movie) the list goes on.

I cannot judge his stage work since I have never seen any of it. But going by
his movie career, he would have been better off playing drag for the rest of
his life.

John davey

Q

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:11:20 AM7/5/02
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John Davey:

>I just wondered.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned his impressive repertoire of cartoon
voices. *gag*

>McHale's navy, Home alone 2, congo, The Shout,
>Passed Away, IT

If we're talking crap, how can you overlook Addams Family Reunion?

>But going by
>his movie career, he would have been better off playing drag for the rest of
>his life.

It should be pointed out that bad movies still pay bills... and I doubt Tim is
exactly scrounging for rent money.


Peace, Love, and RO'B,
Q

"I know I'm a fool, but I won't let anybody make me THEIR fool." - Richard
O'Brien

Atlas

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:26:28 AM7/5/02
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First of all, I'd say he's had as many good roles in feature
films as bad.

That not withstanding, it seems to me that Tim's career is doing
cartoon voices which probably doesn't pay all that well
(relatively speaking), so every once in a while he takes on the
role of a laughable villain in a feature film. It may also be
his career in children's movies and programming that inclines him
to shy away from the Rocky scene.

--
A+las
Older Creepy Guy with Camera
http://teseracte.tripod.com/

That's all for this time. Till next time, so long.

Gene Chiovari

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:33:58 AM7/5/02
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In article <1b4e1l207os...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, John Davey
<sailorc...@hotmail.com> says...

------------------FROM GENE: i have seen him on stage, he is much better at it
and should have stayed there, although i guess with movies they have a larger
budget to be able to afford more scenery for him to chew. :)

Q

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:54:27 AM7/5/02
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A+las:

>It may also be
>his career in children's movies and programming that inclines him
>to shy away from the Rocky scene.

Yeah, well... George Carlin played Mr. Conductor. Didn't seem to affect the
other side of his career in the least.

Jojokim1

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Jul 5, 2002, 2:43:31 AM7/5/02
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It might be the British accent, or the fact that he has been typecast as the
"charming villian".

However, it is possible that these movie scripts read better than they turn
out.

dawn

Ldy Frank

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Jul 5, 2002, 3:49:40 AM7/5/02
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>some
>decent roles. Wel, what the hell happened.

He said in an interview once, for Architectural Digest, I think, that they pay
for his garden....and he's got a fabulous garden.
KT

Gene Chiovari

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Jul 5, 2002, 4:29:24 AM7/5/02
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In article <20020705034940...@mb-mg.aol.com>, ldyf...@aol.com (Ldy
Frank) says...


------------------From Gene: and you can read all about his garden and see
wonderful photos in our 'Totaly Tim' issue of 'Crazed Imaginations' (hint,
hint, plug, plug)

BertSchnik

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Jul 5, 2002, 4:42:18 AM7/5/02
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I dunno, I kind of enjoyed Tim in Earth 2 and Time Square...but the again, I
also get a kick out of Mega Force.

Bill

" The good guy's always win!"-Barry Bostwick in Mega Force

Ldy Frank

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Jul 5, 2002, 5:04:04 AM7/5/02
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>again, I
>also get a kick out of Mega Force.

Hi Bill,
I was in Megaforce--first film I ever did! Last scene when the helicopter
explodes..the news conference: I was a reporter right behind Edward, ducking! I
was an extra, but got a helluva closeup, and it was the start of a 10-year
career in acting. It was in 1981.
KT

DrDimitri

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Jul 5, 2002, 5:06:34 AM7/5/02
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> I dunno, I kind of enjoyed Tim in Earth 2 and Time Square...but the again, I
>also get a kick out of Mega Force.
>
> Bill
>

I loved Tim in Earth 2. He also was in the movie Oscar, with Sly Stallone.
Movie bombed, but was decent and Tim was great as the elecutionist.


Marc Berman "Still the National Jew of Rocky Horror"
Frank/Rocky
Actor w/ Barely Legal, Oakland, CA
Alumni:Erotic Nightmares,Bawdy Caste,Cosmic Light,Under Sedation
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Gene Chiovari

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Jul 5, 2002, 5:09:31 AM7/5/02
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In article <20020705044218...@mb-de.aol.com>, berts...@aol.com
(BertSchnik) says...

-----------------oh barry, deeds not words, barry! show me your megaforce!

Richard Davidson

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:46:48 PM7/5/02
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> I cannot judge his stage work since I have never seen any of it. But

going by
> his movie career, he would have been better off playing drag for the rest
of
> his life.

A couple possibilities that you might not have thought of...

1) The man has to eat, so he possibly had to pick up some jobs in films
that he wouldn't have.

2) A film can change drastically from the script that a performer signs the
contract for to when it's filmed to when it's edited. For all we know, some
of those questionable choices could have been films that were chaqnged
right under Mr. Curry.

3) Lately, it seems like he's start to follow the belief (as stated by Jack
Nicolson), "Be a movie star and possibly act once or twice a year. Be a
character actor and work all year." It would seem that, with all of the
supporting roles that he's been doing throughout the 90s and into this
decade, he might be looking to more of the character parts in good
movies than trying to get a lead in something that might not be as good as
it sounds.

--
See you round like a record,
Richard Davidson
Bawdy Caste, The Park Theatre, Menlo Park, CA
http://www.bawdycaste.org
Fifth Annual Reno Show - July 14

I majored in love but in all minor keys,
'cause falling in love is hard on the knees.

- Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees) - Aerosmith

Richard Davidson

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Jul 5, 2002, 1:59:48 PM7/5/02
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In article <hfw8rde2xs...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Gene
Chiovari <chio...@ameritech.net> says...

> ------------------From Gene: and you can read all about his garden and
see
> wonderful photos in our 'Totaly Tim' issue of 'Crazed Imaginations' (hint,
> hint, plug, plug)

Gee... I thought pluging "CI at the drop of a hat" was Ruth's job. Looks like
it's contagious... ; )

Richard Davidson

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Jul 5, 2002, 2:04:29 PM7/5/02
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In article <8fav78e4bb...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Gene
Chiovari <chio...@ameritech.net> says...

> -----------------oh barry, deeds not words, barry! show me your megaforce!

Please keep your megaforce inside the car at all times... ; )

Gene Chiovari

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Jul 5, 2002, 5:01:26 PM7/5/02
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In article <jsyg0wzux2...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Richard Davidson
<rich...@earthlink.net> says...

> In article <hfw8rde2xs...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Gene
> Chiovari <chio...@ameritech.net> says...
>
> > ------------------From Gene: and you can read all about his garden and
> see
> > wonderful photos in our 'Totaly Tim' issue of 'Crazed Imaginations' (hint,
> > hint, plug, plug)
>
> Gee... I thought pluging "CI at the drop of a hat" was Ruth's job. Looks like
> it's contagious... ; )
>
> --
---------------------FROM GENE: Pluggin CRAZED IMAGINATIONS at the drop of a
hat? Who's plugging CRAZED IMAGINATIONS? I'm not plugging CRAZED IMAGINATIONS,
that fabulous fanzine. If i were to do something as shallow as plug CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS, the only monthly worldwide rocky horror fan magazine, i would not
just mention it in passing. as a matter of fact, if i were to plug CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS, THE ROCKY HORROR RELATED FAN MAGAZINE MADE BY THE FANS AND FOR
THE FANS, i would have probably mentioned that CRAZED IMAGINATIONS has has
EXCLUSIVE INTERIVEWS WITH RICHARD O'BRIEN, PATRICIA QUINN, MICK ROCK, SUE
BLANE, RICHARD HARTLEY AND JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED WITH THE FILM AND
STAGE. and i would go on and on about the FABULOUS FAN FICTION AND FAN ART
FEATURED IN CRAZED IMAGINATIONS. and all the GREAT COVERAGE OF THE SHADOWCASTS
AND STAGESHOWS AROUND THE WORLD. and if i was really plugging CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS, i would tell everyone that if we don't sell 1,000 subscriptions
by August 20th, i will be nibbled to death by a rabid Yak.
gene:)

James Norman

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Jul 5, 2002, 5:52:59 PM7/5/02
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(Tongue in cheek)

Gene, how fucking dare you even mention CRAZED IMAGINATIONS in passing. I mean
don't we have enough advertisments in the world already? I mean if someone
wants to see CRAZED IMAGINATIONS for themselves, they can realize that issues
78 and 79 are now out and feature such neat stuff as NINE NEW PAGES OF NELL
(79), MIs 14th BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION (78), ROCKYPHENIA COVERAGE (78), fan
fiction DREAMS OF HOME (78/79), RUSSELL CROWE as EDDIE, FRANK AND DR. SCOTT
(79), an exceptionally well done article on THE STRIPPER (another Richard
O'Brien musical - 79), a record review by some guy (78), Fantastic Cover
Artwork by a Wonderful Smart Ass* (C)(TM) named Q** (C)(TM)(78/79), TONS OF
SCANS BY LEON TENCER AND SIMON REEVES (79), or more Bill Brennan fiction (78),
or interesting bits on BRIAN THOMSON AND JIM SHARMAN (79), not to mention ALL
THE AUSTRALIA CAST COVERAGE (79)

I mean why even bother mentioning it? What fool (who has the money) wouldn't
subscribe?

Much less don't even fucking think of mentioning the website at
http://www.CrazedImaginations.COM, or that back issues are $4.00 (?)
domestically. And geez, that if people got Ruth money for 78 or 79 relatively
quickly, I might even be able to ship them within a week or less.

I also heard a rumor that all subscribers had their copies sent out either
Wednesday or Friday, but Ruth can comment on that if she wishes.

(can I take my tongue out now?)
* (C) 2002 by James Norman, patent pending
** (C) 19?? by Vittoe Entertainment Enterprises... or Q's V for short.

In article <caa37ott3w...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, Gene Chiovari -----


----------------FROM GENE: Pluggin CRAZED IMAGINATIONS at the drop of a
> hat? Who's plugging CRAZED IMAGINATIONS? I'm not plugging CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS,
> that fabulous fanzine. If i were to do something as shallow as plug CRAZED
> IMAGINATIONS, the only monthly worldwide rocky horror fan magazine, i would

--
jno...@inficad.comMENT (-MENT)
--
Crazed Imaginations Subscriber

Gene Chiovari

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Jul 5, 2002, 7:59:37 PM7/5/02
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In article <1wahtpg5cxk...@news.rockynewsgroup.org>, James Norman
<MY_EMAIL_...@inficad.com_MENT> says...

> (Tongue in cheek)
>
> Gene, how fucking dare you even mention CRAZED IMAGINATIONS in passing. I
mean
> don't we have enough advertisments in the world already? I mean if someone
> wants to see CRAZED IMAGINATIONS for themselves, they can realize that issues
> 78 and 79 are now out and feature such neat stuff as NINE NEW PAGES OF NELL
> (79), MIs 14th BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION (78), ROCKYPHENIA COVERAGE (78), fan
> fiction DREAMS OF HOME (78/79), RUSSELL CROWE as EDDIE, FRANK AND DR. SCOTT
> (79), an exceptionally well done article on THE STRIPPER (another Richard
> O'Brien musical - 79), a record review by some guy (78), Fantastic Cover
> Artwork by a Wonderful Smart Ass* (C)(TM) named Q** (C)(TM)(78/79), TONS OF
> SCANS BY LEON TENCER AND SIMON REEVES (79), or more Bill Brennan fiction
(78),
> or interesting bits on BRIAN THOMSON AND JIM SHARMAN (79), not to mention ALL
> THE AUSTRALIA CAST COVERAGE (79)
>
> I mean why even bother mentioning it? What fool (who has the money) wouldn't
> subscribe?
>
> Much less don't even fucking think of mentioning the website at
> http://www.CrazedImaginations.COM, or that back issues are $4.00 (?)
> domestically. And geez, that if people got Ruth money for 78 or 79
relatively
> quickly, I might even be able to ship them within a week or less.
>
> I also heard a rumor that all subscribers had their copies sent out either
> Wednesday or Friday, but Ruth can comment on that if she wishes.
>
>-----------------------FROM GENE: your right, you know. I didn't even think of
the fact that if i WAS plugging CRAZED IMAGINATIONS, not only would i have
mentioned all the stuff you mentioned while not plugging CRAZED IMAGINATIONS, i
also would have mentioned that CRAZED IMAGINATIONS ISSUE NUMBER 80 HAS AN
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH MICK ROCK AND TONS OF RARE MICK ROCK PHOTOS THAT HE
HIMSELF GAVE PERMISSION TO USE FROM HIS PERSONAL COLLECTION, or that ISSUE
NUMBER 80 OF CRAZED IMAGINATIONS also features some great coverage of Tim Curry
Susan Sarandon and Meatloaf, not to mention the fact that if i was really
trying to plug CRAZED IMAGINATIONS i would have also mentioned that CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS ISSUE NUMBER 80 also Has coverage of DR. SCOTTS EXTRA FORKS FROM
SCOTLAND AND THE NE3W LAS VEGAS CAST AND ROCKY HORROR PAINTBALL AND A MINI
INTERVIEW WITH FARLEY FLAVORS 5. i know there is no need to plug CRAZED
IMAGINATIONS because what fool in their right mind has not subscribed to that
WONDERFUL WORLD WIDE MONTHLY ROCKY HORROR RELATED FAN MAGAZINE PUT TOGETHER BY
FANS AND CAN ME FREELY SUBMITTED TO BY ANY ROCKY HORROR FAN ANYWHERE IN THE
WORLD?!?!?!? what fool indeed? Not many, i can tell you. I guess the only ones
that don't SUBSCRIBE TO CRAZED IMAGINATIONS are the FOOLS that mearly READ
CRAZED IMAGINATIONS OVER THE SHOULDER OF THEIR RIGHTOUS FRIENDS WHO WERE WISE
ENOUGH TO SUBSCRIBE TO CRAZED IMAGINATIONS. They are fools indeed, because they
do not realize that when one mearly READS somebody elses CRAZED IMAGINATIONS
FANZINE, it does not EMPOWER THEM WITH THE SECRET MYSTIC FORCE OF ROCKY HORROR.
because they do not understand that only through the sacred ritual of
SUBSCRIPTION, can they ATTAIN THE MAGICAL FORCE OF THE O'BRIEN, and be BRANDED
WITH THE HOLY O'BRIEN SEAL OF APPROVAL, and therefore gain TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT
AND LIVE FOREVER WITH THEIR SUBSCRIPTION TO CRAZED IMAGINATIONS, THE
INTERNATIONAL ROCKY HORROR FANZINE MADE BY THE FANS AND FOR THE FANS WITH THE
RICHARD O'BRIEN SEAL OF APPROVAL. Yes indeed, it it there tough luck, and as we
all live forever and look down on them as they are lowered into the ground, we
can all be happy and clutch OUR MIGHTY AND SACRED SUBSCRIPTION SCROLLS close to
our chests and thin, poor bastard, he's dead now, and it seems like only
yeasterday when he was READING CRAZED IMAGINATIONS over my shoulder. ...oh well
gene:))))

CURRYED87

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Jul 5, 2002, 10:56:44 PM7/5/02
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>> A couple possibilities that you might not
>> have thought of...

>> 1) The man has to eat, so he possibly
>> had to pick up some jobs in films that
>> he wouldn't have.

To expand on this great point.
Things we need to consider:

Tim Curry is an actor, that is how he makes his living and actors like to work.
If you don't work, you are not doing your job. Right?

And Tim has said it himself . . . He is not considered an A list actor (he's a
character actor); so it's not like people are handing him scripts right and
left. And back to the first point . . . he wants to work.

>> 2) A film can change drastically from
>> the script that a performer signs the
>> contract for to when it's filmed to when
>> it's edited.

How true! It is a directors medium and the editors. Actually, I happen to be
good friends with another actor in "McHale's Navy" (not Tim Curry, another one)
. . . and he told me that many of the scenes featuring Tim Curry and him ended
up on the cutting room floor. One reason: Tim Curry is funnier and a better
actor than Tom Arnold. Tom Arnold didn't need nor want the competition.

Reportedly the same thing happened in the film "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves"
with Alan Rickman. Many of Alan Rickman's (he was the brilliant Sheriff) were
cut as they made Kevin Costner look like a lesser actor. Which is true . . .
Anyway.

>> It would seem that, with all of the
>> supporting roles that he's been doing
>> throughout the 90s and into this
>> decade, he might be looking to more of
>> the character parts in good movies than
>> trying to get a lead in something that
>> might not be as good as it sounds.

Tim Curry may have never wanted to be the lead, either. RHS was a role he
auditioned for and received. He wanted to the film, to further his career.
Still, his goal may have been to be a "working actor".

And as for separating himself from Frank N. Furter . . .that is more of "done
that, been there". Many actors (myself included) like to grow as actors,
change, and don't necessarily want to play the same role over and over. And Tim
also made that clear when he stated, truthfully, "Frank N. Furter died in RHPS"
-- so, he's dead.

And personally, as Tim ages (wonderfully in my humble opinion) . . . well, I
don't want to see him in fishnets now, at age fifty-five. Although, I'd look
if he did it . . . And I'd certainly enjoy him in any manly state of undress.
The full monty!!!

Love and Lust,
Curry's Angel


Gene Chiovari

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In article <20020705225644...@mb-ca.aol.com>, curr...@aol.com
(CURRYED87) says...

> >> A couple possibilities that you might not
> >> have thought of...
>
> >> 1) The man has to eat, so he possibly
> >> had to pick up some jobs in films that
> >> he wouldn't have.
>
>
---------------------------yes, quite right, the man needs to eat so he got
some jobs where he could chew on more scenery... yummmm... (crunch crunch)
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