What's riff-raff's deal?

[fvw]

Impressed by the groups explanation of the frank being the vicar thing,
I'd like to pose the following question to the group:

Why does riff-raff hate frank so much? Was he really sent by the transylvanian
government, does he just do his song at the end of the floorshow because he
want's to show of his nice hair? (Well, that and his "A laser capable of
emitting a beam of pure anti-mater. Oh, then it doesn't matter".)

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[James Norman]

Gee if that prick were beating me with a whip and I had a moral superiority
complex, I might get pissed off enough to use a capable triple pronged dildo
myself.

Then again, maybe I would realize he wasn't worth it and not bother.

fvw <fvw+u...@var.cx> wrote in message news:95013240...@var.cx...

[FaerieWyne]

What you don't know is that Riff-Raff was a secret agent from the Transsexual
government, sent to destroy Frank N. Furter by a former lover government
operative. (who's name will not be mentioned) Riff-Raff also had a personal
beef (no pun intended) with Frank after he (Frank I mean) threw off Columbia,
his sister's lesbian lover. However, Riff finally got tired of Magenta's toy
and zapped her after the floorshow. Then, he killed Frank, had a quickie with
his sister and went back to Transsexual all in time to collect the money he was
owed by the former lover government operative so he could buy himself a real
hairdo and finally get his fishnets professionally cleaned. (you know how bad
week old dirty fishnets itch) Not to mention get a relaxer for his sister's
hair. That's why he didn't kill anyone else...well except for Rocky....let's
just say he killed Rocky for fun. Yeah...that's it.

[HppyButchr]

I Heard that Riff actually killed Rocky, because Rocky was not as dumb as he
seemed. While Brad and Riff were knocking boots, Rocky peeked in and saw. he
became so immediatly turned on that he grew a huge erection. Riff turned
around, saw it, and became extremely jealous. He went limp, and Rocky took
over on Brad pushing Riff aside. That is why Riff hates Rocky. its true... i
swear.

~Jeremy
The happy Butcher

[sean twomey]

......... "emitting a beam of pure anti-mater...."- Anti-"mater"?
......."Mater"? Isn't that latin for "mother"? I know Frank does the Mommy
Dearest thing on Riff, but anti-"mater" might be pushing things a bit. :P
Alright, so it's obscure and intellectual and no one gets the joke- it's
3am, I can do what I want.

Nyehhh!,

SEAN

[BertSchnik]

DING DING DING! BILL FOR FIFTY!!!

OK, I have 2 answers to the Riff question:

1) He hates Frank because he is pre-disposed to based on his position as a
secret agent (Secret Police?) for Her Majesty. Riffs Space Suit is obviously a
uniform 9complete with insignia to denote rank and side arm) and he kills Frank
because his "lifestyle's too extreme", which could be personal (doubt it) or
maybe Frank broke the old "non interfearence" regulation (contaminating Earths
gene pool, fucking with the locals, etc) so he executed him.

NOW FOR THE "REAL" REASON: You wont find this in the movie, even though its
hinted at by Riffs familiarity with the lab controls: Richard (O'Brien) has
stated on more than a few occasion when this question was brought up that Riff
was jelous and resentful. "After all, he help create Rocky as well, did'nt he?"
was stated a few times, and basically Richard said that Riff helped Frank out a
LOT but didnt get any of the credit. He also loved Frank, which made his lack
of recognition hurt even worse..."
And then Riff snuffed him. Never argue with a Transexual bitch with a gun, I
guess.

Bill B

"Prepair for trouble!"
"And make that double!"
TEAM RIFFRAFF BLASTING OFF AGAIN!

(Magenta and Riff as Jesse and James from Pokemon!)

[Gemma Bernard]

Just to add to Bill's 2nd idea -
In the show just after Rocky is created Frank asks all cast character's what
they think. Riff answers with "he's a credit to my erm your genius". So
this suggests Riff actually created Rocky of at least the scientific
concept, which is why he's a tad pissed off with Frank.
Gemma
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[Hello Sushi!]

In article <20000210044828...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,

berts...@aol.com (BertSchnik) wrote:
>
> NOW FOR THE "REAL" REASON: You wont find this in the movie, even
though its
> hinted at by Riffs familiarity with the lab controls: Richard
(O'Brien) has
> stated on more than a few occasion when this question was brought up
that Riff
> was jelous and resentful. "After all, he help create Rocky as well,
did'nt he?"
> was stated a few times, and basically Richard said that Riff helped
Frank out a
> LOT but didnt get any of the credit. He also loved Frank, which made
his lack
> of recognition hurt even worse..."

I recall reading something to that extent in some little booklet.
Probably the one that came with the CD box set..

> Never argue with a Transexual bitch with a gun, I
> guess.

Never mess with a Transexual bitch with a gun, period..

Quad

"But Make No Mistakes And Switch Up The Channel
I'm Buddy Rich When I Fly Off The Handle" Beastie Boys "Sabotage"

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[Lori J. Timmermann]

Bill writes:

he kills Frank
because his "lifestyle's too extreme", which could be personal (doubt it) or
maybe Frank broke the old "non interfearence" regulation (contaminating Earths
gene pool, fucking with the locals, etc) so he executed him.

Here's a thought along those same lines: maybe it's for both of those reasons. Maybe they were given a set of rules to abide by during their Earth stay and while Frank broke them left and right, Riff adhered either out of fear or out of personal morals. The fact that Frank hadn't yet been punished for his transgressions annoyed and frightened Riff, and he began asking himself "If Frank doesn't stick to the rules, maybe nobody has to. If nobody has to, why do they exist?"

Finally, annoyed at Frank for being such a punk and annoyed at himself for being such a straight-arrow and too afraid to break the rules, Riff both breaks the rules by killing Frank and punishes Frank for breaking the rules. Riff is satisfied with himself once more.

Another thought: maybe Magenta told him to. After all, every time Riff messes with Frank (letting Rocky loose and so forth), there she is, looking over his shoulder.

"Prepair for trouble!"
"And make that double!"
TEAM RIFFRAFF BLASTING OFF AGAIN!

(Magenta and Riff as Jesse and James from Pokemon!)

Ack! What is this world coming to?

Love, Lori.

"I remained celibate for you!" --Carrie Fisher, The Blues Brothers.
 

[Nate Havoc]

Here is what Riff Raff himself told me over dinner one night. These are
his exact words, and certainly not something I'm making up right now
because I'm bored at work.

"Nate," Riff said, "My God your handsome. Anyway, I wanted to tell you
about why I killed Frank. As you know, I am a top Secret Agent who was
sent to monitor Frank's mission on Earth. My cover was to act as
Frank's lowly servant; an idea which disgusted me thoroughly. However,
I was able to bring my beautiful sister with me to make my mission a
little more, er, enjoyable. Working for Frank proved to be unbearable.
Not only was he rude and inconsiderate, not only did he never give me
credit for all the hard work I did for him...you think it was really him
who discovered the secret to life? HAH! It was me, all me! But other
than these things, he was also abusive and rude. But I bore it all for
the sake of my country and my mission. But he went to far. He
neglected his mission to pursue his own pleasure. The last straw was
when he angered Magenta. The dear girl, she had been happy and content
being Frank's servant when she thought he was working on a glorious
mission for the homeland, but she soon realized Frank's true intentions.
As you know, what my sister wants, my sister gets. She wanted to go
home, and I knew the only way I could take her home right then was to
kill Frank and 'his' creation and fly us home myself. Magenta expected
the hostile takeover, but didn't know my full plan. Of course when I
explained everything to her, she was delighted, and the trip home was,
well, let's just say Frank could never have found such pleasure with one
of his... 'earthlings'. No offense. By the way, you've got some crap
between your teeth. Here's a toothpick."

This is all true, and the real explanation of what happened.

--
Nate "I hate cop cars (except the one on the 12)" Havoc, Barely Legal,
CA
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In article <95013240...@var.cx>,

fvw+u...@var.cx wrote:
> Impressed by the groups explanation of the frank being the vicar
thing,
> I'd like to pose the following question to the group:
>
> Why does riff-raff hate frank so much? Was he really sent by the
transylvanian
> government, does he just do his song at the end of the floorshow
because he
> want's to show of his nice hair? (Well, that and his "A laser capable
of
> emitting a beam of pure anti-mater. Oh, then it doesn't matter".)
>
> --
>
> Frank v Waveren

> fvw@v

[Weirdwolf Mark]

Think this over. Frank had sex with Columbia. He had sex with both Brad and Janet.
God knows what he did to Eddie. He screwed his own creation and EVEN probabably
messed around with Magenta... Did he do anything with Riff Raff? I smell a bit of
jealousy. "They didn't like me. He never liked me!" It took his own sister to...
ugh... I don't even wanna say it.
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[Ex-DeliveryBoy]

Nate,

LOL!!! loved your answer!!!

Scott

Nate Havoc <na...@adclub.com> wrote in message
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[Jamie Niles]

> I'd like to pose the following question to the group:
> Why does riff-raff hate frank so much?

Now if THAT ain't a loaded question for this newsgroup!
Here's my take on the whole thing:
After enduring countless irritating acts of Frankiness (is that
a word?) Riff finally went over the edge when Frank sliced up Eddie.
[bad pun, sorry] Being that Eddie was the castle's drug dealer, and
Frank didn't bother getting a new one leaving the Zen Room sorrowly
understocked. This caused Riff to go on a sudden and drastic withdrawl
from 18 sperate drugs at once. And watching that piss poor excuse for
carving didn't make matters any better. At which point he grabs the
Anti-matter gun, available at finer Transexual Wal-Marts everywhere, and
begins blasting away. Luckily for Brad, Janet and Dr. Cripple, Riff
comes off his withdrawl of uppers sending Riff into a very forgiving
state, and thusly letting them go. [Note he does point the gun at them,
but the drugs wear off just in time. *Only in the movies*] Moral of
this story: Keep the damn Zen Room stocked!

Sidenote to Nate: You're certainly in the lead for best explaination in
my book. (Naw, that's not an obvious ploy to see what demented stories
we can all come up with)

--Jamie Niles
Interchangeable Parts St. Petersburg, FL
http://rockyhorrorlive.tripod.com

"I'm not an alcoholic, I'm just very thirsty"

[Atlas]

Isn't you anti mater the school you didn't graduate from?

--
Atlas
RH in NE Webslave
http://members.tripod.com/RockyNE/

You know what kind of eats,
What kind of red hot treats,
The kind of sticky licky sweets I need

[Johnny Q]

Riff shoots Columbia in something of a jealous rage("How dare you fuck my
sister. Only I may fuck my sister!") Frank is killed because Riff works for
a faction of the Transylvanian government that wants him out of the way
possibly as a way to keep the royal family of Transsexual under control. By
carting him off to a distant planet on a phony diplomatic mission and having
an operative around him at all times, Frank is effectively neutralized as a
threat to the secret cabal's plans. When Frank manages to create life, his
technical genius and charisma convinces the cabal that merely keeping him
out of the way may not be enough. When the Bureau of Investigation of That
Which We Call UFOs gets an agent into Transylvanian HQ, Frank becomes a
liability as his flamboyant lifestyle draws attention to an alien presence
on the planet known as Dirt. This combined with his knowlege that might
find its way into the Wrong Hands(be they human or Tranny loyalists) and the
famous Furter cult of personality(he's a bisexual cannibal, but people would
follow him anywhere) makes it better for all concerned if he has a Terrible
Accident(tm). The rest is history.

--
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>
> fvw wrote:
> > Why does riff-raff hate frank so much?
>

> Because Frank gave Eddie a really neato slingshot and Riff got 20
> lashes.
>
> *Ducks....*
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[Ex-DeliveryBoy]

Maybe Frank kept Riff in line using drugs? (because when you knocked, he
thought you were the candy-man)
When no "candyman" showed up, Riff slowly sobered up and realized he had to
kill Frank jsut so he can go home.

Scott

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[HppyButchr]

I think Riff truly hates Frank because Frank has a beautiful plush head of
hair, and alas porr Riff Raff is balding.

~Jeremy
The happy Butcher

[Cosmo]

hppyb...@aol.com (HppyButchr) wrote in <20000216113323.19580.00000825@ng-
fa1.aol.com>:

>I think Riff truly hates Frank because Frank has a beautiful plush head of
>hair, and alas porr Riff Raff is balding.

Disagree... some people prefer to be bald. And they also feel sorry for
those who have hair.

:-P

- Cosmo