An Important Question
P7A77
> Shock Treatment. Can someone email me and explain what this is? Thank
you verry
> much. :)
Don't they have FAQs for such things?
....Oh, Larry.....? ;)
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>
>
>I just recently became a Rocky horror fan. I keep hearing about a thing
called
>Shock Treatment. Can someone email me and explain what this is? Thank you
verry
>much. :)
>
>
>Fort...@aol.com
Shock Treatment is the "sequel" to Rocky Horror. The only similarities
between the the two is that some of the characters are still there (Brad,
Janet, the Criminologist, and the Hapschatt's), and some of the same actors
are still there (Richard O'Brien, Patricia Quinn, Little Nell, Charles Gray,
and the actor who played Ralph Hapschatt).
Some people are of the opinion that ST is a better movie than RHPS, but to
each their own.
If anyone else wishes to contribute, please feel free.
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For toq46
Fnordian
I'll pretend you didn't use the "s" word.
>The only similarities
>between the the two
That's extremely debatable....there's a webpage somewhere (Cosmo's Factory
maybe? I don't remember) discussing the many similarities between the two.
Some of the more obvious are that they were both created by RO'B and directed
by Jim Sharman (not to mention the fairly numerous other folx involved in the
production of both.)
>is that some of the characters are still there (Brad,
>Janet, the Criminologist, and the Hapschatt's),
Actually, the Criminologist isn't in Shocky....Charles Gray plays Judge Oliver
Wright...
>and some of the same actors
>are still there (Richard O'Brien, Patricia Quinn, Little Nell, Charles Gray,
>and the actor who played Ralph Hapschatt).
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>>between the the two
My favorite similarity between Rocky and Shock Treatment is this:
Ya know Cosmo takes the keys to the convertable. After Macy is announced as
Miss Mental Health, Cosmo flips the keys at nation and says 'We never had a
Convertable." If you study the keychain, it's a red circle with a blue
lightning bolt on it. It's identicle to the flag on the castle in Rocky. It's
hard as hell to see, but after watching the movie so many times while we were
rehearsing it, we noticed it.
Kelly
Xkristine1
>Miss Mental Health, Cosmo flips the keys at nation and says 'We never had a
>Convertable." If you study the keychain, it's a red circle with a blue
>lightning bolt on it. It's identicle to the flag on the castle in Rocky.
>It's
>hard as hell to see, but after watching the movie so many times while we were
>rehearsing it, we noticed it.
>
>
Now *that* is neat. Thanks for sharing :-)
-Kristine
James Curran
the opening to "Denton! Denton!" she's wearing a RHPS "lips" pin on her
jumpsuit (upside down). A one point when Betty & Oliver are in the "Denton
Dossier" office, there's a copy of Time magazine on the desk, with a RHPS
photo on the cover, for a story on "Cult Movies". The computer Betty uses
when checking up on the McKinley's refers her to file "4711".
XtaciRaven <xtaci...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> My favorite similarity between Rocky and Shock Treatment is this:
Ashford Wyrd
it's not realy a sequil, but rather a completely unrelated film that simply
uses a few symbols and charactors from RHPS to get its anti-media point
accross... it is an alegory on cults, media, and corruption...
Lace5656 wrote in message <19990310193841...@ng-ca1.aol.com>...
> This is in reply to a question you put on the internet about RHPS. Well
Shock
>Treatment although I've never seen it, is supposed to be a sequel to RHPS.
But
>the people that play Brad, Janet, and Frankie I know for a fact are not in
>Shock Treatment. That's all I really know about that movie
Cameron Stern
TREATMENT is NOT a PREQUEL, NOT A SEQUEL, but an EQUAL!!!!"... so there ;p
(sorry just a pet peeve of mine)
Lace5656 wrote:
> This is in reply to a question you put on the internet about RHPS. Well Shock
> Treatment although I've never seen it, is supposed to be a sequel to RHPS. But
> the people that play Brad, Janet, and Frankie I know for a fact are not in
> Shock Treatment. That's all I really know about that movie
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P7A77
> TREATMENT is NOT a PREQUEL, NOT A SEQUEL, but an EQUAL!!!!"... so there ;p
> (sorry just a pet peeve of mine)
....and it keeps gettin' funnier every single time I see it.
On a random note, one of the /only/ times I've ever gone to the imdb main
page (instead of just /search), their "movie spotlight of the day" (or
whatever) was Shock Treatment. Freaky.
Lace5656
Dumorte
plastic wrap, there was a small sticker which described ST as "the further
adventures of Brad, janet and Richard O'Brian." That seems to fit.
Sidney
Dumorte
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CS>I don't know how many times this will have to be said on the ng
Until people get sick of hearing it and kill the people who keep
saying it?
CS>but "SHOCK TREATMENT is NOT a PREQUEL, NOT A SEQUEL, but an
CS>EQUAL!!!!"
Semantic and meaningless word games. It's a sequel.
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CS>EQUAL!!!!"
"picking up where the rocky horror picture show left off, this outrageous
musical sequel to the midnight hit stars brad and janet majors......."
--the back of the box to my copy of shock treatment.
jared
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DikOfDeth
>musical sequel to the midnight hit stars brad and janet majors......."
>
>--the back of the box to my copy of shock treatment.
>
"also includes two scenes never before seen in theatres"
-the back of the box on the new RHPS re-issue, in reference to "Once in a
While" and _"Superheroes"_
So you really can't believe everything you read.
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Richard O'Brien was in it. I believe he directed it as well. I only saw it
once and that was about 10 years ago or more.. All I recall was a lot of talk
about Denton and virgins.. It was really stupid..I was very disappointed..
"so I tell them..I can fly, I will scream, I will break my arm.. I will
do me harm. here I stand, foot in hand, talking to my walll. I'm not
quite right at all, am I? "
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castle-brooks
>Shock
>> Treatment although I've never seen it, is supposed to be a sequel to
RHPS.
>But
>> the people that play Brad, Janet, and Frankie I know for a fact are not
in
>> Shock Treatment. That's all I really know about that movie
>>
> Richard O'Brien was in it. I believe he directed it as well. I only saw
it
>once and that was about 10 years ago or more.. All I recall was a lot of
talk
>about Denton and virgins.. It was really stupid..I was very disappointed..
I really like Shock Treatment!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
you know, it is possible to have a good movie without Curry in it ( matter
of fact it is also possible to have a very bad movie with Curry in it, i.e.
Legend)
as to the different people playing Brad & Janet
do you only watch Connery as Bond?
GONZO
GUM8Y311
>as to the different people playing Brad & Janet
>do you only watch Connery as Bond?
Yes.
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Fnordian
As were Pat Quinn, Little Nell, Charles Gray, Imgoen Clair, Perry Bedden and
Jeremy Newson, all from RHPS. (Maybe I left someone out? Eh, I need my
morning caffine...)
>I believe he directed it as well.
No, Jim Sharman directed it. Ritz composed it and co-wrote the screenplay,
tho' (or maybe he wrote it on his own this time? I can't remember.)
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PlanNine
>>Richard O'Brien was in it.
>
>As were Pat Quinn, Little Nell, Charles Gray, Imgoen Clair, Perry Bedden
and
>Jeremy Newson, all from RHPS. (Maybe I left someone out? Eh, I need my
>morning caffine...)
>
>>I believe he directed it as well.
>
>No, Jim Sharman directed it. Ritz composed it and co-wrote the screenplay,
>tho' (or maybe he wrote it on his own this time? I can't remember.)
He wrote the screenplay with Jim Sharman. Addtional ideas were by set
desighner Brian Thompson. http://nominex.com/faq/ is a great resourse to
find out everything you need to know about Shock Treatment that hasn't been
said on this threat allready.
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crs...@cloud9.net wrote:
> I don't know how many times this will have to be said on the ng but "SHOCK
> TREATMENT is NOT a PREQUEL, NOT A SEQUEL, but an EQUAL!!!!"... so there ;p
> (sorry just a pet peeve of mine)
Speaking of pet peeves... I would just like to say that I absolutely despise
the sequel/prequel/equal nursery rhyme. It reminds me entirely too much of
the little rhymes they used to attempt to teach us in Sunday school. And on
a note that is actually related to this thread, Shock Treatment is the
further adventures of two of the surviving main characters of Rocky Horror.
In several horror movie sequals, it only takes one main character's further
adventures to merit the coveted title of sequel. Therefore I believe that,
while not containing the further adventures of some of the characters we
would have liked to have seen, Shock Treatment is indeed a sequel to The
Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Ed Lipinski
member in adequate standing of
The Pink Invaders
Merrillville, IN
Kev4711
>
>As were Pat Quinn, Little Nell, Charles Gray, Imgoen Clair, Perry Bedden and
>Jeremy Newson, all from RHPS. (Maybe I left someone out?
yeah, the best one of 'em all: RUFUS!!!!
Rufus Collins rocks!!!!
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Yes, too many things point to Rocky Horror in Shock Treatment.
Here are a few that I have noticed..
1. When Betty is looking through the old newspaper headlines on the
film clips, you see one that reads "UFO Spotted Over Denton".
IMHO, this points to the castle after it had taken off at the end of
Rocky Horror.
2. Betty & Ralph are now devoriced, the were married in Rocky.
3. During the "Little Back Dress" number, when they are in the
dressing room... look on the back wall, Franks cape is hanging
up.
4. During the "I'm Looking For Trade" Musical number, all the folks
are playing "Space Invaders II" machines, this infact represents
IMHO, that the Transsexuals are back in this movie.
5. Look at the audience during the "Denton" musical, half of them if
you look are infact the original Transilvanians who were dancing
the TimeWarp. Note the huge guy, was the same one was eating
the orderves at the table during the TimeWarp.
6. Brad & Janet are married now.... were not in Rocky.
The only folk who did not return, are Tim Curry, and (pardon me for not
knowing) the actor who played Dr. "Von" Scott.
At first I though it was Bert, but it is a whole different actor. (very classic
character though... my favorite in Shock treatment).
P7A77
That was some of the most creative spelling I've ever witnessed. :)
> the orderves at the table during the TimeWarp.
hors d'ouvres. I think. Something close to that anyway.
> The only folk who did not return, are Tim Curry, and (pardon me for not
> knowing) the actor who played Dr. "Von" Scott.
> At first I though it was Bert, but it is a whole different actor. (very
The part was initially going to be for Dr. Scott, but somewhere along the
line (I don't remember if it was because of creative reasons or casting
difficulties) the character became Bert. Hoopla!
Something else that's a more subtle reference... Betty and Ollie discuss
that Cosmo and Nation had a popular series in England that's still rerun
in many countries, and that perhaps he had seen them in Dentonvale, to
which he said that he never watched it. I think it can be (with a bit of
twisting and stretching) interpolated that the "series" is the original
RHS, which is still done all over the world, and Dentonvale is RHPS, which
Charles Gray has (or at least had at the time) never seen.
Or maybe I'm reading too much into things.