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MMRHPSCast

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All right, if anyone hasn't read my post yet in the "Competition, Rocky Horror
Picture Show" thread do so now. It's about time to take care of this problem in
our little corner of the world. Now is your time to voice your opinion. I'm
going to create and assemble and post on MidnightMadness.org (and to be posted
periodically on the NG as well as sent to newbies) "The Rocky Horror Newsgroup
FAQ". The goal of which is to assemble, in one place, a list of etiquette,
procedural, and beat to death topics on THIS Newsgroup. Don't post anything
that is already in the regular RHPS FAQ page at http://nominex.com/faq/
unless you feel that it should specifically be addressed here.
So how about we turn all of our collective bitching into something
constructive. Let's go to it kids. Even Zenin can throw a sig length post into
it!
Those that don't participate have NO RIGHT to bitch about it later on.
POST HERE or MAIL TO ME. I'll get it either way.

jefF - Midnight Madness

Midnight Madness, The Rocky Horror Picture Show Cast -
NO LONGER celebrating TEN Years of performing at the Village North Theatre.
Visit us on the web @ http://www.midnightmadness.org

Zenin

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MMRHPSCast <mmrhp...@aol.com> wrote:
: All right, if anyone hasn't read my post yet in the "Competition, Rocky Horror


: Picture Show" thread do so now. It's about time to take care of this problem in
: our little corner of the world. Now is your time to voice your opinion. I'm
: going to create and assemble and post on MidnightMadness.org (and to be posted
: periodically on the NG as well as sent to newbies) "The Rocky Horror Newsgroup
: FAQ". The goal of which is to assemble, in one place, a list of etiquette,
: procedural, and beat to death topics on THIS Newsgroup. Don't post anything
: that is already in the regular RHPS FAQ page at http://nominex.com/faq/
: unless you feel that it should specifically be addressed here.
: So how about we turn all of our collective bitching into something
: constructive. Let's go to it kids. Even Zenin can throw a sig length post into
: it!
: Those that don't participate have NO RIGHT to bitch about it later on.
: POST HERE or MAIL TO ME. I'll get it either way.

So, basically, you want to do the same thing I was trying to do with
the newsgroup charter a while back?

Well then, for reference here is the last revision of the charter.
Feel free to adopt or reject anything you wish.

(also can be found at http://www.archive.rhps.org/charter.txt)

You might also want to take heed of the flame war you're likely to
create in the wake of the first version you post. See DejaNews and
search for "Charter" for full details.

Charter for the newsgroup, "alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror"
Written by Zenin <ze...@archive.rhps.org>
$Id: charter.txt,v 1.1 1998/05/30 14:44:07 byron Exp byron $

Table Of Contents

I Introduction

II About the newsgroup

III Posting guidelines
1. Appropriate posts
2. Inappropriate posts
3. -Use clear subject headers.
4. -Make clear followups.
5. -Always read all other responses before giving your own.

IV Message format
1. Intro
2. -Plain ASCII text ONLY.
3. -No encoding of ANY kind.
4. -Word wrapping at 70-75 columns, and never over 80 columns.
5. -Standard Usenet/Mail message quoting style ONLY.
6. -Forbidden quoting styles.
7. -Trim needless extra quoting.
8. -Use the standard signature delimiter of "-- \n"
9. -Keep your signature as short as possible.

V. References

I. INTRODUCTION

References marked in [number] notation and listed at the end of this
document, or hyper linked in the HTML version.

As this charter is written for a group that is already in existence, there
are a few sections left out such as the rational that one would normally
find in a newsgroup charter.

This charter is also a bit long, I admit, but it needs to be. For the
most part its Usenet common sense, so if you've already read the
standard Usenet message and posting guildlines available on
news.newusers.answers (you HAVE read them, haven't you???) you can probably
skip this document. But when in doubt, please consult this document as the
final reference.

If you do violate it, expect to be visited by the CharterBot[0], which will
point out exactly what part of this document you violated so you can
remember to not do it again. Anyone that has a problem with the CharterBot
can Eat A Dick[tm].

This is a living document. Expect it to change over time as the needs and
concerns of the group change.

II. ABOUT THE NEWSGROUP

To provide a discussion forum for issues and topics related to
the movies, The Rocky Horror Picture Show (RHPS) and Shock Treatment (ST),
as well as related topics such as Tim Curry's latest TV show.

Discussion is open to anyone with an interest in RHPS and/or ST. This
group is not moderated, however its users are expected to follow the
guidelines spelled out by this charter. Enforcement is first done through
the CharterBot[0], and secondarily through more, umm...personal methods.

III. POSTING GUIDELINES

III-1. Appropriate posts

Appropriate posts include, but are not limited to, the following:
-Announcements of RHPS, ST, and related events.
-How-to's for costumes, props, etc.
-Cast information.
-Auction notices and followup/status information. -But please keep
it all under one thread and use the "[AUCTION]" subject tag as described
below.
-Rocky Horror and Shock Treatment items for sale.
-The FAQ.
-Discussions about any of the above.
-Quad's nice ass

III-2. Inappropriate posts

Inappropriate posts include, but not be limited to, the following:
-Advertisements not related to RHPS or ST.
-Spam of ANY kind.
-Binary posts of ANY kind (regardless of any encoding used)
Find a web/ftp server to host them, it's not that hard.
-Personal attacks. Everyone, please try to play nice with the other boys,
girls, etc.
-Chain letters of ANY kind, including any MAKE.PENIS.FAST posts.
-ANY message cross-posted to more then 5 groups. -No valid messages for
this group should EVER need to be cross-posted to more then 5 groups.
-ANY multi-posted message. That is, a message that is not cross-posted,
but instead posted independently to a number of groups. It's a waste
of resources and has no point. Cross-post if you need to, but don't
ever multi-post.
-Test messages. Use alt.test, that's what it's for. There is NO reason
for test messages in this group.
-Any talk about Rob's sex life

III-3. -Use clear subject headers.

Don't just put, "I have a question" as the subject of your post. Give
some idea what you're writing about. Put "ROTOQ question", or "New
cast members needed". If possible, try to prepend a topic label to
your subject line. Some common labels to use are:
[AUCTION] - self explanatory
[FS] - for sale
[WTB] - Wanted to Buy
[ISO] - In search of
[OFF TOPIC] - self explanatory
[LONG] - Lengthy posting
[ANNC] or [ANNOUNCE] - Announcements, Proclamations
[RFD] - Request for Disscussion

[CAST] - Cast relations
[THEATRE] - Theatre relations
[FAN CLUB] - Fan club news and business
[DIRECT] - Cast direction
[TECH] - Technical discussions
[PROPS] - Discussions about props
[CHARACTER] - Character discussions (specify character)
[COSTUME] - Costume discussions
[CON] - Convention news and discussion
[QUAD] - Discussion about Quad and her Nice Ass
[San Jose] - Local to that city/state/country/planet.

If your subject does not fit within one of the above, feel free to create
a new one or leave it off. An example of a labeled subject header
would be:

Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New FAQ available

Thanks to Mike Bennett <m...@efn.org> for the subject label suggestion.

III-4. Make clear followups.
Do not post a followup with only, "I agree" or "I think your all wacked"
without any context provided. This makes it hard to know what you're
makeing the comment in reference to.

III-5. Always read all other responses before giving your own.
All to often, a question is answered over and over again because
respondents are quick to fire off there answer without checking to see if
others have done so already.

IV. MESSAGE FORMAT

IV-1. Intro

These are a number of message format rules to help keep the group from
becomming a total, unreadable, mess.

All messages are expected to conform to RFC 1036[1] AND the unofficial draft,
Son Of 1036[2]. Most importantly the issues of body format, word wrapping
at 70-75 columns, message quoting style, "trimming" of quoted text,
signatures and its delimiter. Detail for each of these is given below, so
you don't need to dig through the above RFCs for this information.

Furthermore, use of "MIME[3]" attachments for the message body, or a copy of
the body in another format (eg, HTML[4]) is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. The use of
HTML for any part of the message body, with or without MIME encoding is
also STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. The use of any and all "VCard"[5] attachments is
also STRICTLY FORBIDDEN, as is the use of HTML for the signature.

The message body must conform to not only RFC 1036[1], son of 1036[2], and
any later revisions of RFC 1036[1], but also the following guidelines as well
even if not mentioned in the above documents.

IV-2. -Plain ASCII text ONLY.
No message body is to EVER contain non-printable ASCII text or control
characters with the exception of space, tab, and newline. Alternate
text formats based on ASCII such as HTML[4] are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN.
THIS MEENS NO "ANSI-COLOR" signatures, PERIOD. The use of "Rich text"
is also STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. When I say "plain text", I mean PLAIN TEXT.

IV-3. -No encoding of ANY kind.
The message body must not contain ANY encoding such as MIME, rot13,
uuencoding, BASE64, or non-ASCII character sets.

IV-4. -Word wrapping at 70-75 columns, and never over 80 columns.
Text lines must be wrapped at 70-75 columns to allow for quoting.
If quoting a message causes its lines to exceed 80 columns, the
quoted lines should be them selfs word wrapped with the new lines
quoted as well.

IV-5. -Standard Usenet/Mail message quoting style ONLY.
ALL quoted text must be done per the standard convention of prepending
a string such as '> ' to the beginning of every quoted line (the exact
string is up to the user, so '# ', 'user> ', etc is valid) INCLUDING
any quoted lines that have been wrapped.

Proper quoting examples:

Joe User <joe...@foo.com> wrote:
> some quoted text
> from another message

Your response goes here.

OR

Joe User <joe...@foo.com> wrote:
Joe> some quoted text
Joe> from another message

Your response goes here.

Just make sure if you use the second quoting style that it doesn't
cause the line length to exceed 80 columns, and if it does to wrap
them as well with another "Joe> " prepended on them as well.

IV-6. -Forbidden quoting styles.

The use of the quoting style, ">>>>> quoted message <<<<<" such as
this example:

>>>>> some quoted text
from another message
with no starting line quote marks <<<<<<

is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. This style is very common from posts made
by users of American Online. I'm not sure why this is (I also see
properly quoted text from AOL members, so there is a way to do it), but
I also don't care. It's not my problem or the problem of the readers
of Usenet why AOL's software is brain dead, its AOL's and more directly
the users of said brain dead software. This isn't even my idea, it's
per the RFCs. I'm just in *strong* agreement with the RFCs on
this issue.

IV-7. -Trim needless extra quoting.
DO NOT quote the entire body of a message. Trim it down as much as
possible, threading your replies within it whenever possible. NEVER
quote the signature unless you are writting a response directly about
the signature.

IV-8. -Use the standard signature delimiter of "-- \n"
Example:

--
-Zenin
ze...@archive.rhps.org
"I am dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated."

IV-9. -Keep your signature as short as possible.

The signature should be 4 lines or less if you can. For use in this
newsgroup, the addition of a Rocky Horror Freak Code (RHFC)[6] is not
considered part of these 4 lines, nore is the delimiter mentioned above.
Thus, a signature of:

--
-Zenin
ze...@archive.rhps.org
"I am dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated."
RHFC1.1 V!M!P1S2RBL24Y1980 P*B-R+20@H-D+100@W+200@T+5@P?L15@Y1990&1@(7@)!1
C8@W3@P@& IF&-W&&-N+M1C-! MA2{RO,PQ}M{PQ}C3B15@R15@V1O+++ D?-K1S@C0!O{IS}T5@
QNA+&+!K+!PW>&H1+! YA25+>16G{m}H{5'7"}L{CA,USA}S{f>ba12^H7k}W=

Is valid as the non-RHFC part is still under 4 lines.

V. REFERENCES

0: Zenin's CharterBot group monitor program.
1: ftp://nic.merit.edu/documents/rfc/rfc1036.txt
2: http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/netnews/son-of-1036.html
3: http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/MIME/2045/rfc2045.html
4: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1866.html
5: http://www.imc.org/draft-ietf-asid-mime-vcard
6: http://www.archive.rhps.org/freakcode/


TO DO

Define "SPAM"

--
-Zenin (ze...@archive.rhps.org) Your Official ORGy sites!
The Bawdy Caste (Fremont, CA) www.bawdycaste.org
Barely Legal (Berzerkly, CA) www.barelylegal.org
Rocky Horror Archive (Earth) www.archive.rhps.org
RHFC1.1 V!M!P1S2RBL24Y1980 P*B-R+20@H-D+100@W+200@T+5@P?L15@Y1990&1@(7@)!1
C8@W3@P@& IF&-W&&-N+M1C-! MA2{RO,PQ}M{PQ}C3B15@R15@V1O+++ D?-K1S@C0!O{IS}T5@
QNA+&+!K+!PW>&H1+! YA25+>16G{m}H{5'7"}L{CA,USA}S{f>ba12^H7k}W=

MMRHPSCast

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>
> So, basically, you want to do the same thing I was trying to do with
> the newsgroup charter a while back?

Yes.

> Well then, for reference here is the last revision of the charter.
> Feel free to adopt or reject anything you wish.
>
> (also can be found at http://www.archive.rhps.org/charter.txt)

This is good, but I'm thinking more along the lines of the "informal" stuff.
Some passages in this one are a little Spartan. It's useful for a general
Usenet / A.C.M.R.H. guideline. However, I'm actually interested in this stuff
and I can barley read through that. Most people don't know "BASE64" or "RFC
1036[1]" from a hole in the ground.

>You might also want to take heed of the flame war you're likely to
> create in the wake of the first version you post.

Hey, if the people want to flame me for having opinions, go right ahead. They
certainly don't need much of an excuse to do that anyway, as I pointed out
earlier.

I want this to be more of a neutral thing. Everyone offers their opinion and as
long as its not offensive, I'll put it all together," wrap it all up in bright
colored ribbon, and we'll give it to them all over again." Basically, tell us
what'll get YOUR goat. We've all (generalization) broken the guidelines here at
one point or another, this is a more informal NG than others, but what is truly
NOT acceptable to you. What topics do you consider "dead". What are you
prepared to do to inform those of the responses to the topics that you consider
dead? Etc.

Fnordian

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>Those that don't participate have NO RIGHT to bitch about it later on.
>POST HERE or MAIL TO ME. I'll get it either way.

Uh, Excuse Me? Last I checked, there was a little something called
*freedom*of*speech*, which gives me (and everyeone else on this newsgroup) the
right to bitch about WHATEVER the fuck we want to, whether or not we
participate in something.


--
Lila...professional BARF audience member
http://come.to/rockylinks for a complete collection of RHPS links
RHFC1.2 V38A+!M+>PS2BY1997L6{s3} P>J+>C>HW1-t>O{T+}>SL1& C1A!c IW+&&N+!C
MAC3B2R14T6V3O QNAP+R{LittleSister}H1 YA14++Bp5G{f}H=L{SFArea,CA}S{b}{a16^}{k}

netweasel

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Why?

There should be only 1 rule. NO SPAM!

Anything else is totalitarian. No one owns this newsgroup.

--netweasel

Zenin

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[posted & mailed]

MMRHPSCast <mmrhp...@aol.com> wrote:
>snip<

Let me add to my list below, people that both email and post a
message, but don't make any mention about it in the text!!!

See above for an example of how to do this...

> > So, basically, you want to do the same thing I was trying to do with
> > the newsgroup charter a while back?
>

> Yes.

Good hunting! :-)

> > Well then, for reference here is the last revision of the charter.
> > Feel free to adopt or reject anything you wish. (also can be found
> > at http://www.archive.rhps.org/charter.txt)

> This is good, but I'm thinking more along the lines of the "informal"
> stuff. Some passages in this one are a little Spartan.

Agreed. It never made it to a 2nd revision, as I got side tracked
and the general debate in the group itself seemed to have curbed
most of the major problems anyway.

> It's useful for a general Usenet / A.C.M.R.H. guideline. However, I'm
> actually interested in this stuff and I can barley read through that. Most
> people don't know "BASE64" or "RFC 1036[1]" from a hole in the ground.

True. One of the suggestions was to have a short "intro" section
that gave the basics.

>snip<


> I want this to be more of a neutral thing. Everyone offers their opinion
> and as long as its not offensive, I'll put it all together," wrap it all
> up in bright colored ribbon, and we'll give it to them all over again."
> Basically, tell us what'll get YOUR goat. We've all (generalization)
> broken the guidelines here at one point or another, this is a more
> informal NG than others, but what is truly NOT acceptable to you.

Hmm, ok. In order here are some of my highlights:

HTML posts, with or without a plain text version.

Nonstandard quoting (like that AOL crap).

People that are too lazy to trim there quoting and end up with a 50
line quote just to add a 3 line comment.

messages in all caps no caps and missing punctuation altogether such
run on paragraphs are a pain to read you cant tell when one sentence
ends and the next begins much line this one i normally just kill
file such morons on sight but some are on my own cast mailing list

Incorrect, or missing attribution.

Lines over 80 characters (preferably 76, to allow quotes to not go
over 80) long. -I had to reformat your message because some of it
when quoted was 81 columns.

V-Card attachments. -Although this isn't much a problem in
a.c-m.r-h, yet.

Huge sigs (like that 23 line short story the one guy had), and sigs
that don't use the correct sig deliminator "-- ". Your sig is a
good example of this second part. :-)

> What topics do you consider "dead".

"What does Frank's 4711 mean?"

Beyond that, I don't think much of anything is "dead". There is
always another viewpoint. It's only the simplist of technical that
can be answered with a simple RTFFAQ in this group.

> What are you
> prepared to do to inform those of the responses to the topics that you consider
> dead? Etc.

Topics? Not much if anything.

Things like the problems I stated above? I'll likely write that
Charter/FAQ Bot that I've been threatening for a while. :-)

Zenin

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[posted & mailed]

Fnordian <fnor...@aol.com> wrote:
: >Those that don't participate have NO RIGHT to bitch about it later on.


: >POST HERE or MAIL TO ME. I'll get it either way.
:
: Uh, Excuse Me? Last I checked,

Which was apparently never, or else you'd know better.

: there was a little something called


: *freedom*of*speech*, which gives me (and everyeone else on this newsgroup) the
: right to bitch about WHATEVER the fuck we want to, whether or not we
: participate in something.

You have no such rights. See news.announce.newusers for some (but
not all) of the basic rules and guidelines of Usenet.

As an alt.* group (and one without a clear charter at that), we are
much more relaxed in both rule and enforcement, however we are in no
way devoid of it completely.

Zenin

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netweasel <n...@2600.com> wrote:
: Why?

: There should be only 1 rule. NO SPAM!
: Anything else is totalitarian. No one owns this newsgroup.
: --netweasel

You obviously either haven't been on Usenet long, don't read many
groups, and or have not read any of news.announce.newusers.

netweasel

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Ummmm, no, wrong on both counts.

Usenet is for people to post messages. A new user is not required to a FAQ
or browse Dejanews to see if the thread was already discussed. That would be
stupid. Free Speech my friend.

If someone posts something totally off-topic, then sure post a message in
response. But "warning" people because some people on the newsgroup might be
angered because it was already discussed???? That's just plain stupid and
elitist. And no one has the right to be an elitist.

Zenin wrote in message <91276212...@thrush.omix.com>...

Zenin

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netweasel <n...@2600.com> wrote:
: Ummmm, no, wrong on both counts.

That's ok, there where three in my post. :-)

: Usenet is for people to post messages. A new user is not required to a FAQ


: or browse Dejanews to see if the thread was already discussed.

You're right, they aren't. They likely should be (and are, in many
moderated groups), but that's another thread.

: That would be stupid.

Why would taking 5 minutes to look for an answer yourself first
instead of just spending that same 5 minutes to write a message that
is sure to waste much more of other peoples' time, "stupid"?

Not trying to help yourself first is not only "stupid", it's also
extremely rude, selfish, and lazy (albeit false laziness).

: Free Speech my friend.

This has absolutely nothing to do with free speech.

: If someone posts something totally off-topic, then sure post a message in


: response. But "warning" people because some people on the newsgroup might
: be angered because it was already discussed???? That's just plain stupid
: and elitist. And no one has the right to be an elitist.

Agreed.

As I said before, just because a topic has been discussed before has
no relevance as to if it should/could be discussed again.

There are many distinct cases we are talking about here:

1) A simple, single answer FAQ.
These are things like, "What does the number 4711 on Frank's
relate to?", "RHPS in/near SJ/Santa Clara", or
"How do I join the fan club?". These kind of questions
typically can only have a single answer and could be found faster
by simply reading the FAQ or doing a quick search on Yahoo,
HotBot, or DejaNews. To post them without looking for the answer
first is extremely rude and a waste of everyones time.

2) Discussion topics, open ended questions, announcements.
These are things like, "Cast Auditions Question", "Competition,
Rocky Horror Picture Show", or "What are you thankful for?".
These are the "pondering" kinds of questions that grow with
greater input and debate. These shouldn't be repressed or pushed
off to an FAQ.

3) Stupid users that don't know the Internet from a toaster oven.
New Usenet users often skip right past news.answers.newusers, if
they even know it exists. They use the broken defaults in brain
dead news and mail readers like Netscape, MS Exchange, and AOL.
Using said brain dead software, post dribble messages that are
hard to read by anything but the exact piece of software they
happen to be using. These people often exaggerate the problem by
posting with all caps, no caps, no punctuation, dog spelled "c a
t", or any combination of the above. These lazy morons deserve
any and all flames they receive.

4) Off topic/group, SPAM, et al.
Basically all the posts that have no place in the group at all.
These people should be at least flamed as hard as the #3 people,
and often have much more dier consequences taken against them.

You have the "freedom of speech" to post 1 and 2 to most groups,
although 2 is considered quite rude normally. You do not have the
right to post 3 or 4, and doing so can bring anything from a simple
flaming upto and including a criminal lawsuit.

--
-Zenin (ze...@archive.rhps.org) Your Official ORGy sites!

Fnordian

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[Posted and mailed]

> You have no such rights. See news.announce.newusers for some (but
> not all) of the basic rules and guidelines of Usenet.

I also don't recall anyone saying that it would be bitching *on* the newsgroup.
There's more than one way to bitch.

netweasel

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All I am saying is say if someone is new to the newsgroup. They look over
the posts, and see NOTHING about a stupid FAQ. They post something with
relevence (e.g. if they remake it...etc...). Who has the right to tell them
off. No one does.

For the last year I really haven't bothered to post anything. I just read
the newsgroup now and then. Why? Because of the stupid elitist attitude.
It's not like we are inventing a cure for cancer or doing anything of great
importance to human society (these things may deserve an elitist attitude).
We watch a freaking movie from the seventies. It's fun. That's what this is
all supposed to be about, FUN!!

--netweasel

ihat...@spamsucks.com

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Having a place where newbies can go to see good newsgroup and RHPS (and RHPS
newsgroup) etiquette is a good thing. Calling it official, even in quotes, I think
puts a lot of pepole off. I felt the same way about the charter.

Suggestion: Put a tag line in your signature that looks like this

New to alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror? Wanna post? See my list of suggestions, FAQ
and topics that have been beaten to death at
http://www.myserver.com/~myusername/mydoc.html

Well, you get the idea.

James Norman

MMRHPSCast wrote:

> All right, if anyone hasn't read my post yet in the "Competition, Rocky Horror

Zenin

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netweasel <n...@2600.com> wrote:
: All I am saying is say if someone is new to the newsgroup. They look over

: the posts, and see NOTHING about a stupid FAQ.

Nore is there anything in news.answers. This is part of the
problem.

: They post something with relevence (e.g. if they remake it...etc...). Who


: has the right to tell them off. No one does.

Agreed, completely.

: For the last year I really haven't bothered to post anything. I just read


: the newsgroup now and then. Why? Because of the stupid elitist attitude.
: It's not like we are inventing a cure for cancer or doing anything of great
: importance to human society (these things may deserve an elitist attitude).
: We watch a freaking movie from the seventies. It's fun. That's what this is
: all supposed to be about, FUN!!

Life's hard, ware a helmet.

Honestly this group is one of the tamer ones around, flames and all.
Of course this is supposed to be fun, and it's also not supposed to
be all that serious. So simply don't take it so seriously. If you
can't handle a little flaming here and there without getting all
worked up about it you're going to have many other problems in life
at large.

Relax, don't take the world (especially the Rocky world) that
seriously. Life's far too short to let such pettiness get to you so
easily. Besides, the split second you get even the littlest bit
upset, they win. Don't give them that. It's easier and healthier
to just blow them off.

netweasel

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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Guy, trust me, the alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror is the last thing on this
earth I would take seriously. All I was getting worked up about was people
flaming for stupid reasons. Life's fun, rocky's fun, enjoy it.

--netweasel

Zenin

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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netweasel <n...@2600.com> wrote:
: Guy, trust me, the alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror is the last thing on this

: earth I would take seriously. All I was getting worked up about was people
: flaming for stupid reasons. Life's fun, rocky's fun, enjoy it.

How often do you see people flame for intelligent reasons? :-)

PlanNine

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Dec 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/6/98
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ihat...@spamsucks.com wrote in message
<36686592...@spamsucks.com>...

>Suggestion: Put a tag line in your signature that looks like this
>
>New to alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror? Wanna post? See my list of
suggestions, FAQ
>and topics that have been beaten to death at
>http://www.myserver.com/~myusername/mydoc.html

Or how 'bout getting a bot to post a message weekly that has the topic
"Welcome New Users To a.c-m.r-h! Please Read this!" It can basically say
the same thing that the .sig above does. Then if some new user goes to the
url and doesn't like something that he or she sees, there is no blame to put
on the person who would have put those lines in their .sig. Just a thought
kids...

Louie "PlanNine" P!
Faithful Ed Wood Worshiper-Trusty Buck's Rock Vid Counselor!-UBC Student
Extrordinare
"I am one of the many people who gets a little twinge in the pit of the
stomach when the lips come on-screen--it's the same sort of feeling I get
when falling in love." -Ruth Fink Winter
C U Round Like a Record! - Nell


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