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Superkev 7

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98
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Just an interesting thing. I just saw "The Truman Show," by Peter Weir. It was
very good, not a comedy like most of Carrey's work, just has funny things in
it.Similar to Shock Treatment, they are all being watched. In ST, there are
parts you know are being shown to an audience. In the Happy Homes scene
Janet's mom is very much like Carrey's wife,because she is constantly promoting
in the "cheezy"ST fashion.(Dentonvale, coffee, Janet's dress from that show)
Everyone in the town knows and pretends to love Janet. Everyone in Truman are
all pretend friends or relatives. Both also take place in a large studio,
depicting middle-America If anyone else has seen ST, you should check out this
movie, its not bad even if you are not a Jim Carrey fan.
NO BIG SIG SUPER

Joe Blevins

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98
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I was wondering when someone would mention the similarity between
"Truman" and "Shocky." "Shock Treatment" had this "life-as-TV-show"
idea 17 years ago! Too bad the critics didn't praise it like they're
praising "Truman" now. "The Truman Show" is a good film and worthy of
the attention it's getting, but "Shock" covered this ground much earlier
and deserves credit for doing so.

BTW, someone could write a really brilliant crossover of these two
movies. Arthur...?

--Joe--

K-

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98
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Joe Blevins wrote:

> I was wondering when someone would mention the similarity between
> "Truman" and "Shocky." "Shock Treatment" had this "life-as-TV-show"
> idea 17 years ago! Too bad the critics didn't praise it like they're
> praising "Truman" now. "The Truman Show" is a good film and worthy of
> the attention it's getting, but "Shock" covered this ground much earlier
> and deserves credit for doing so.

I don't really think it's the same thing. Truman was in the dark.
Janet's not.

Besides, the idea was already "covered" in an episode of the Twilight Zone.
A guy accidentally finds a camera behind his mirror and finds out that his
life is being filmed for a movie or something in another country.

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98
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Kenny (ini...@slip.net) wrote:
K->Besides, the idea was already "covered" in an episode of the Twilight
K->Zone. A guy accidentally finds a camera behind his mirror and finds
K->out that his life is being filmed for a movie or something in another
K->country.

A somewhat similar scene appears in "Amazon Women on the Moon" where
a man's life is reviewed on TV...
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Joe Blevins

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Shawn McHorse wrote:

>
> After I got out of "The Truman Show", I couldn't help thinking a lot about
> "Dark City". But that could just be that general RHPS addiction thing
> again...;-)

No, I thought of it, too, especially when Truman (SPOILERS AHOY) got to
the edge of the water and he came to that fake "sky" wall thing. It
reminded me so much of the part in "Dark City" when that one guy with
the curly hair finally reaches the edge of the fake city, and then we
see that the "city" is this closed-off thing floating in space. (It's
been a while since I saw "Dark City," so my memory of it is a little
vague.)

Also, wasn't it sorta implied in "Truman" that some of his memories were
fake (i.e. the trip to Mt. Rushmore)? That was definitely a theme in
"Dark City."

Here's a formula for you RHPS addicts: "Shocky" times "Dark City" equals
"Truman Show." Well, sort of...

--Joe--

Shawn McHorse

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:19:20 -0700, K- <ini...@slip.net> wrote:
>Joe Blevins wrote:
>> I was wondering when someone would mention the similarity between
>> "Truman" and "Shocky." "Shock Treatment" had this "life-as-TV-show"
>> idea 17 years ago! Too bad the critics didn't praise it like they're
>> praising "Truman" now. "The Truman Show" is a good film and worthy of
>> the attention it's getting, but "Shock" covered this ground much earlier
>> and deserves credit for doing so.
>
>I don't really think it's the same thing. Truman was in the dark.
>Janet's not.

After I got out of "The Truman Show", I couldn't help thinking a lot about


"Dark City". But that could just be that general RHPS addiction thing
again...;-)

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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>Also, wasn't it sorta implied in "Truman" that
>some of his memories were fake (i.e. the
>trip to Mt. Rushmore)? That was definitely a
>theme in "Dark City."

I think the trip to Mt. Rushmore thing wasn't that it didn't happen, but that
it happened but it wasn't really Mt. Rushmore, it was a set backround like the
sky at the end...

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Vixen1542

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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I think one difference between ST and Truman is the fact that Janet *knew* that
there was an audience, she was out there singing to them, interacting, ect. But
Truman, on the other hand was totally unaware of the large viewing population
that followed him.


Just my $.02.....
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Superkev 7

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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Janet may have known she was on T.V. to some degree, but in the whole picture,
both she and Truman were being manipulated by Christof/Farley for whatever
gains. Some scenes like "Me,Me,Me" Janet is totally aware of the audience, but
she dosen't really know why . Truman finds out eventually, but at some point he
does put in his mind that things are not what they seem,as Janet does too.
KEVIN

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