number on Franks leg
JuliaClaus
What does the number on Franks leg mean?
So long
Jule
Alexander Hoffman
liked it)...
By the way... (From what I hear) the scribiling on the wall next to the
frezzer is actualy the chemical formula for 4711 perfume... That could just
be a rumor though....
-Alex
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Alexander Hoffman wrote:
> 4711 is the name of a french perfume... (From what I am told, many gay men
> liked it)...
--
Great souls have wills; feeble ones only have wishes.
Alexander Hoffman
4711 Cologne.
Based on a formula made by a French émigré friar, this scent was named after
the house number assigned to the Mulhens Family perfumery's shop during the
1794 French occupation of Cologne. Napoleon used to bathe in a diluted
version of this scent.
hope that helps
Alexander Hoffman
The police code for indecent exposure is 314.. (in california) but I think
it differs from state to state.
-alex
Mina
believe that the make-up artist and/or costume designer who put the number
there collaborated enough with the set designer to hunt down a cologne
formulae. Don't you? They would have far more relevent and pressing
things to contend with. Can you really hear the director saying "we need
some scientific text on this wall.... someone go waste a week in Paris and
track down a cologne formulae" (which is probably copyrighted anyhow and
wouldn't have been given to a film production). At least it's not as dumb
as the rumor on one of the Yahoo clubs about Susan Sarandon dying. Think,
people.
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Charles DuPont
a number of things. ;)news:0xxs6.13630$68.28...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
Amy Johnson
as to what the drawings next to the control board and tank are, so I finally
went and looked. If anyone has good images of them let me know, and I can
be more specific.
First of all, and here's a huge surprise, most of it is just chicken
scratch. During creation scene, as smoke comes shooting out of Riffs butt
and he laughs, right before Sword of Damocles, there's a good view of some
of it. For those of you who this would mean something to, there's an oxygen
bonded to two carbons and 2 hydrogens. Not a real molecule (oxygen can only
stably bind 2 things normally, under unusual conditions, it can bind 3, and
that's in ozone). I can't read much else of it, but there are a few rings
with phosphates attached. That could be perfume formulas, caffeine(another
rumor I've heard), or lots of other things. I think the most logical thing
for it to be though, would be a DNA molecule. Remember G-C and T-A? Yes,
they knew of those in the 70's. If you were a mad scientist creating life,
your lab would probably have pictures of the building blocks of life in it.
GEEKS UNITE!
XOXOXOXO
(put those anywhere you'd like)
Amy
Crazed Imaginations
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Ldy Frank
>
>4711 is the name of a french perfume...
It's German....the label is in German too:
"Echt Kolnisch Wasser" (cologne water);
"Nachfull-Zerstauber Ohne Treibgas"
(natural spray vaporisateur).
LF
Ldy Frank
>1794 French occupation of Cologne.
Cologne is in Germany.
LF
Elemeno123
I did a little bit of research a few years back and provided I read the formula
right, it's the formula for a chemical called cadaverine which is what's
responsible for part of the bad smell of rotting bodies. Then again the
picture I took it from was blurry, but it definitely ain't perfume or detergent
or LSD before anyone asks.
-Sonja
Kiem Flint
oxygen bonding, there's a host of other problems with the model on the wall.
Hydrogen doesn't double bond (except with itself, and this isn't what is on
the wall). Carbon never single-bonds in a complex molecule. I've never
seen the entire formula, but what can be seen is just good-looking garbage.
C'mon, what can we expect from a movie where they can't even make a castle
disappear?
Kiem Flint
Rocky/Tech/Pimp-Daddy
Midnight insanity
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Ldy Frank
>I did a little bit of research a few years back and provided I read the
>formula
>right, it's the formula for a chemical called cadaverine which is what's
>responsible for part of the bad smell of rotting bodies.
"E-d-d-i-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-!"
LF
RHPSvegas
out about it: "Rocky Horror Guide to 4711 and Its Meaning"
<< it's the formula for a chemical called cadaverine which is what's
>responsible for part of the bad smell of rotting bodies.
"E-d-d-i-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-!"
LF >>
Hey, at least I use deoderant! Scott on the other hand... Look, I just came up
with yet another way for people to tell us apart!
Steve
Divine Decadence
"I'm not Scott, dammit!"
CallistoXE
~Alex
Charles DuPont
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Alexander Hoffman
called cadaverine
As odd as this sounds, it IS true... I typed the chemical formula
h2n(ch2)5nh2 into www.chemfinder.com and that's what it came up with on the
top of the list.
PS... Although 4711 is made in germany, its was made (and named) durring the
french occupation of Cologne... making it originaly a FRENCH product.
--
Alexander M. Hoffman
Co-Director / Brad
Interchangeable Parts Tampa Bay, FL
Alexander Hoffman
its settled... its the formula for cadaverine, NOT 4711, caffine, or chicken
scratch.
-alex
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Alexander M. Hoffman
Co-Director / Brad
Interchangeable Parts Tampa Bay, FL
BertSchnik
About the formula board and such: yes, bonding of that type isnt going to
happen at all under OUR laws of physics. What if Frank and/or other scientists
from Transexual discovered a way to alter the laws of physics? It makes sense,
in a "Rocky Horror" type of way: the have matter/antimatter conversion in
something so simple as a hand weapon, animate (or re-animate) dead tissue and
cells long after necrosis should have set in, thus destroying any usable
material, have solved the gravity problem, made a hash of Einsteins E=MC2
theory, and otherwise broke a whole shitload of "universal" laws.
Extending the suspension of disbelief to the point where a few molecules
bond in an improper way wouldnt be too far out of the question, I mean, what
with already having a castle full of aliens that spend most of their spare time
fucking each other and such... :)
And the formula for Caverdine (or whatever it was) makes sense as far as the
plot goes: we wouldnt want our corpses walking around the castle, smelling up
the place, would we?
Bill "Brains, LIVE BRAINS!" Brennan
"Lonely days, lonely nights...where would I be without my woman?"
Jeff Loyd
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Elemeno123
Cool, that's the same site I used to search. I just wasn't sure if I read the
formula right.
-Sonja
Elemeno123
Try looking at an actual picture
http://nominex.com/rarerhps/picture.cgi?image=19980526.jpg.
The formula with the straight carbon chain is the one that's cadaverine.
That's formula #1. The one labeled #3 is part of a drawing of a heme, the part
of hemoglobin that binds oxygen. It's incomplete, but everything that's on
there is correct. And the label globin would be very appropriate. I can't
make out what the one labeled #2 is. It looks like it's supposed to be some
kind of DNA chain, but it's really really wrong. Who knows? But at least 2
of the formulas are real.
-Sonja
Rockyhorrorpsj
=0!
Which could be, ya know, equals zero, a nonsense formula. Maybe?
~Toby aka pun
ZACH: Excuse me, could I buy an - ahem - condom?
NEWSSTAND WORKER: Oh no! You are too young!
BertSchnik
The "=O!!!" is from "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (song mentioned in Sci Fi
Double Feature.) Check out the film if you can, its an oldie but a goodie.
Anyway, Micheal Rennie goes to meet this professor, and on the professors
chemical board-amongst all the other equations-is the end result-a big fat
"=O!!!" at the bottom of the board.
I assume this was a bit of a homage paid to the film by Richard, or at least
by a set director with an apt sense of humor.
Hey, where does Elizabeth Arden fit into all the chemical equations? You
know, "Call E. Arden, Clumbia has number" thats written on the board. (along
with sugar, flours, eggs, 2 hypodermics, the word Plan etc, etc. (not to
mention the ever popular E=MC2...)
Bill " Drunken Irishman" Brennan
Jannie
obscure "Von Scott" and triangle on green lab coat sub-story that was
supposed to be like Dr. Scott was a Nazi and Frank was the one being
persecuted for being labeled as a homosexual (the triangle symbolizes
homosexuality) and he was branded on his thigh.
I don't remember who told me that and I don't know if they read that
somewhere or made it up, but I thought I'd at least share it with the group.
Someone in the thread mentioned that being a real tattoo on Tim Curry. It is
horribly drawn (lines are crooked, uneven), so I would hope not. Does anyone
know for sure??
Jannie
Interchangeable Parts - homeless in Tampa Bay, FL
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Ldy Frank
>Someone in the thread mentioned that being a real tattoo on Tim Curry. It is
>horribly drawn (lines are crooked, uneven),
I've seen extreme close-ups...it is not drawn in solid lines; it is composed of
dots, in a line.
KT
Ldy Frank
> Hey, where does Elizabeth Arden fit into all the chemical equations? You
>know, "Call E. Arden, Clumbia has number" thats written on the board
I think Frank either ran out of mascara, or
wants to talk to possibly EVE Arden?
KT
Jannie
Frank (when it wasn't their regular character). They'd either draw it on
themselves and apologize for the "tattoo" being crooked or they'd have me
draw it on for them and ask why I was dotting it and were confused when I
told them it actually is like that. It actually made it very easy to do by
myself when I played Frank because I didn't have to worry about making it
neat.
I still don't know the significance of the number "4711" unless it was after
the cologne (which my boyfriend, our cast Frank, wears before every show
that he is Frank in).
Jannie
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>
> I assume this was a bit of a homage paid to the film by Richard, or at
least
> by a set director with an apt sense of humor.
Brian Thomson has a wonderful sense of humour (sorry, I am British you
know!) evident all through the movie. One of the reasons I love it!
> Hey, where does Elizabeth Arden fit into all the chemical equations?
You
> know, "Call E. Arden, Clumbia has number" thats written on the board.
(along
> with sugar, flours, eggs, 2 hypodermics, the word Plan etc, etc. (not to
> mention the ever popular E=MC2...)
I would guess that Frank, when noting down his supply requirements on the
lab wall, which was the only handy thing to write on (did they have Post Its
on his planet back then?!), remembered that he was running low on his
favourite cosmetics (probably due to writing everything in red lipstick?)
and had to remember to order some more from the rep. Maybe it was Columbias
lipstick he wrote with?! Hypodermics obviously were needed for shooting up,
and I guess they were maybe going to make pancakes at some point.
The other theory I heard was that E.Arden was Eddie, and he had to remember
to call Eddie to invite him over (so that they could cut him up to take half
his brain away!!)
Love to Uncle Bill!
M
xxxx
> Bill " Drunken Irishman" Brennan
>
>
Ruth Fink-Winter
article on it in Crazed Imaginations.
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sean twomey
process, that might explain why Frank added all of that food coloring...
:-)
ST
(Rocky Horror - beefcake or cupcake?)
Charles DuPont
The other theory I heard was that E.Arden was Eddie, and he had to remember
to call Eddie to invite him over (so that they could cut him up to take half
his brain away!!)
I like this theory the best, Bill :) We never knew Eddie's last name.
Other than Dr. Everett Von Scott would be the brother of his late mother,
and assume that Von Scott is the madien name. It's established that
Columbia obviously knew Eddie (although the movie lost alot of the text from
the play about how he came to be there) so Eddie Arden may just be the
character they were looking for. Anyone have access to Jim Sharman's notes?
He was such a stickler for detail he actually gave Brad & Janet middle
names.
Why not give Eddie a surname? :)
The flour, sugar, and eggs can assume he made Rocky out of dough. After all
he was making a man, because he "kneaded" one. :) *ducks and hides*
Ldy Frank
>The other theory I heard was that E.Arden was Eddie, and he had to remember
>to call Eddie to invite him over
...or order a "meat" ball pizza....
LF
sean twomey
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Anyone have access to Jim Sharman's notes?
> He was such a stickler for detail he actually gave Brad & Janet middle
> names.
Anybody know what they are?
ST
rY.
>> I typed the chemical formula h2n(ch2)5nh2 into www.chemfinder.com
>>
>> --
>> Alexander M. Hoffman
>
> Cool, that's the same site I used to search. I just wasn't sure if I read the
> formula right.
>
> -Sonja
Damnit, we all thought you came up with that from memory!!
ah well, there goes the myth...
;)
rY.
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Brad Understudy: Sins 'o the Flesh - "We saved the 'F' for 'U'"
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rY.
> There is a chemical formula, A drawing of a rocket, A grocery list, and a
> message to Frank from E.Arden and that Columbia has the number. :)
> It would indeed be something. Jim Sharman is very detailed when it comes to
> things like that.
More than likely, this is an example of Brian Thomson's "attention to
detail", rather than Jim's. In fact, if you listen to the commentary on the
DVD, Richard gives a great deal of praise to Thomson's production design and
detail describing, in particular, the titles of the books on the wall in the
Crimm's office.
(Not to get too far off-topic, but does anyone have a clear photo of THAT??)
DrDimitri
AHEM.......You are quite wrong. Anyone who joins the fan club nowadays will
have the same #. When I joined, they were still giving everyone diffrerent
numbers.
My Fan Club # is 50716
Marc Berman "Still the National Jew of Rocky Horror"
Actor w/ Barely Legal, Oakland, CA
Alumni:Erotic Nightmares, Bawdy Caste, Cosmic Light, Under Sedation
drdi...@aol.com
http://www.barelylegal.rhps.org
Rockyhorrorpsj
~Toby aka pun, Queen of the Mad Lumberjacks!
Lori J. Timmermann
Rockyhorrorpsj wrote:
> Janet's middle name is Margaret, I'm not so sure about Brad though.
Brad's statement says "Bradley J. Majors." Maybe it's like Homer Jay
Simpson.
Love, Lori.
Charles DuPont
statements
Which you can read in Crazed Imaginations :)
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Charles DuPont
confused? :)
Please forgive my momentary brain fart :)
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ST
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RHPS Crim2
>statements
>Which you can read in Crazed Imaginations :)
Where did you get "Joseph" from? My copy of Brad's statement just says
"Bradley J. Majors." Mine is the copy that came with Crazed Imaginations.
I've read the thing twice and I see no mention of the name "Joseph."
Your humble narrator,
The Criminologist
http://rockycast.net/lexrocky
Charles DuPont
temporarily mislaid. I will find it later this week, and if it only says
"J" I will post a correction.
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Charles DuPont
me understand where I got "Joseph" from. (Possibly because I was thinking of
"Joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat." :) Sorry everyone. (Of
course the issue of CI surfaces 2 seconds after I post...)news:eN_t6.8464$M%2.67...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Ruth Fink-Winter
For the record...the issues of Crazed with the Crim statements are #40
(Janet) and #61 (Brad). We also included the Janet statement in our Best Of
issue.
Issues #40 and #61 can be purchased for $3.50 in the US, $5 outside it.
Email me if you're interested.
Cheers,
--
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Editor, Crazed Imaginations--a Rocky Horror fanzine
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PO Box 1548 - Sauk Village, IL 60412
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> Bradley [J.] Majors, and Janet Margaret Weiss :) It's in the Crim's
Charles DuPont
Always willing to help out where I can. ;)
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Ashford Wyrd
I don't have a good photo of it right now, but I do remember seeing a
"Marrage Law" book sitting on its side so the spine is readable without
craining your neck.
Ruth Fink-Winter
Ruth Fink-Winter
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DrDimitri
DOH.....don't make me bust out my light saber on you.