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Criminology of flag laws. Pledging allegiance = Kissing the government's ass. http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg

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"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"

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May 23, 2007, 10:04:13 AM5/23/07
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PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE = KISSING THE GOVERNMENT'S ASS.
http://rexcurry.net/fetishism-fetish-flag-sex-pornography.html

In 1918, E.V. Starr was sentenced to 10 years in prison in Montana for
refusing to kiss the flag. What would you have done? He probably would have
done what you would have done in hindsight. But it was too late. Do you
suppose that before or after sentencing he offered to provide a make-up kiss
for the flag if the judge would forgive and forget?

Photograph of Pledge of Allegiance
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg
Pledge of Allegiance Image

A fan claims that a U.S. Congresswoman wants to toughen flag laws and alter
the gesture/salute with more of a hands-on approach (see above). Instead of
placing the hand over the breast, the hand would be placed upon the flag.
She also wants to codify the old Montana kissing case nationwide. Her
proposal would toughen the flag-kissing mandate so that underlings can
comply vicariously: She kisses the flag, voters kiss her ass, therefore,
vicariously, voters kiss the flag. It is urged as another improvement on
the current hand-over-the-heart gesture. She displays enormous respect for
the flag that should be found in the breasts of all Americans. Penalties
would be improved to the same level of 10 years in prison for any refusal to
kiss the flag (or a politician's ass).

In August of 1918, E.V. Starr was convicted in Montana of sedition. Starr
had been accosted by a mob that demanded he kiss the flag. Starr refused,
and reportedly said "What is this thing anyway? Nothing but a piece of
cotton with a little paint on it and some other marks in the corner there. I
will not kiss that thing. It might be covered with microbes." Starr was
sentenced to 10-20 years of hard labor in a state penitentiary as well as
fined $500 plus court costs.


HE TOLD THEM WHERE TO PUT THE FLAG .......?


On November 9, 1918, the Kansas Supreme Court heard the appeal of Frederick
Shumaker, Jr. for his conviction for having made to someone a "vulgar and
indecent" comment about flags. According to the court, "Such language will
not, cannot, be used by any man in any place concerning our flag, if he has
any proper respect for it. The man who uses such language concerning it,
either in jest or in argument, does not have the respect for it that should
be found in the breast of every citizen of the United States." The justices
voted unanimously to uphold Shumaker's conviction.

On May 18, 1931, the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Stromberg v.
California that laws banning the use of emblems or symbols to express
opposition to the American government are an unconstitutional infringement
on free speech. That suggested it is also an infringement on free speech to
ban use of the flag in a manner that is "disrespectful."

"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"

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May 23, 2007, 6:46:07 PM5/23/07
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In the year mentioned, 1918, the notorious stiff-armed salute was used in
the early Pledge of Allegiance (from 1892).
It was the origin of the salute adopted later by the National Socialist
German Workers' Party, as shown in the astounding discoveries of the
historian Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Pledge of Allegiance Secrets").
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

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No one should stand for, nor chant, the Pledge of Allegiance, because it was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (see the work of the historian and author Dr. Rex Curry http://books.google.com/books?id=yQaslAEACAAJ&dq ). Although America's early Nazi salute has changed, the pledge continues to be the source of Nazi behavior. A web search for the phrase "lawyer jailed for pledge of allegiance" reveals copious information about lawyers jailed for refusing the robotic chanting of the Pledge of Allegiance.

There is historical proof that the USA has been run by crazy people since way back and that both the flag and the pledge turn people insane. See the case of Ex Parte Starr, 263 F. 145, 146-147 (D. Mont. 1920), in which a man was sentenced to 10-20 years for refusing to kiss flag under threat of bully mob.

On the evening of March 24, 1918, Ernest Starr was confronted by about 15 men in a local committee while reading a letter at the general store in Big Horn township, and asked about his failure to make Liberty Bond contributions. Forced to kiss the flag, he said, "What is this thing anyway? Nothing but a piece of cotton with a little paint on it, and some other marks in the corner there. I will not kiss that thing. It might be covered with microbes."

Case details: Information filed Aug. 1, 1918. Attorney was John C. Lyndes. Convicted in a jury trial. Habeas corpus petitions denied in state and federal courts. In opinion in Ex parte Starr 263 Fed 145 (D. Mont. 1920), U.S. Judge George Bourquin noted that defendant was "more sinned against than sinning," and added that "Patriotism, like religion, is a virtue so exalted that its excesses pass with little censure. But when as here it descends to fanaticism, it is of the reprehensible quality of the religion that incited the massacre of St. Bartholomew, the fires of Smithfield, the tortures of the Inquisition and is equally cruel and murderous."Served 35 months. Sentence commuted by Gov. Dixon on June 4, 1921, to 5-20 years making him immediately eligible for parole. Evidence that a woman's malicious gossip about Starr, based on comments she said she heard him make in 1917, precipitated the confrontation with his accusers (but her testimony was not allowed for that reason). Released Sept. 18, 1921. Starr's name lives on in several books and articles on the flag.

Personal Information: Born in Wooster, Wayne Co., Ohio. Attended schools in Kalamazoo County, Mich. Had one sister, a missionary in S. America. Testified that he worked in North Dakota as early as 1886, worked for the Great Northern Railroad in 1887 and later homesteaded in North Dakota and Canada. In 1910 was single and living in Hillsdale, N.D. Left Canada in 1916 to come to Montana. Lived and homesteaded at the head of Tullock Creek near Hardin, 25 miles south of Big Horn township in what was then Rosebud County. Filed for homestead in 1916 on ceded portion of Crow Reservation. Also worked as engineer and boilermaker. Date and place of death unknown.

http://www.seditionproject.net/STARR.HTM

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2ew4tXFFZJkJ:www.seditionproject.net/STARR.HTM+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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On November 9, 1918, the Kansas Supreme Court heard the appeal of Frederick Shumaker, Jr. for his conviction for having made to someone a "vulgar and indecent" comment about flags. The justices voted unanimously to uphold Shumaker's conviction.

In 1931, the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Stromberg v. California that laws banning the use of emblems or symbols to express opposition to government are an unconstitutional infringement on free speech. That suggested it is also an infringement on free speech to ban use of the flag in a manner that is "disrespectful."

At first, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the right of government schools to expell students who would not perform the stiff-arm salute and robotically chant the Pledge of Allegiance each morning at the ring of the government's bell for 12 years of their lives. The case is Minersville School District v. Gobitis (1940).
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=310&invol=586

Many people used the Gobitis case as an excuse to increase persecution of children who would not chant (and their parents). That was part of the reasons why the Court reversed itself three years later in one of its fastest self-reversals in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943).
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=319&invol=624

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According to the St. Petersburg Times: There was a flag mutilation case in Pinellas County in 2002. The defendant, who pleaded guilty to that charge and others, was put on probation.

Thinking the "public mutilation of a flag" statute remained viable, Tampa police officers in the past year accused two men in three separate instances of the first-degree misdemeanor.

The charge carried a punishment of up to one year in jail and a maximum $1,000 fine. But the Hillsborough State Attorney's Office dropped all three cases, including that of Donnie White's on Thursday.

Donnie James White, 45, of Tampa, was arrested and charged with one count of public mutilation of the flag, a misdemeanor on July 9, 2007

"The United States Supreme Court has made it clear that this type of statute is unconstitutional," spokeswoman Pam Bondi said. "The defendant's conduct is protected under the First Amendment."

When White, 45, appeared in court Tuesday after a night in jail, Assistant State Attorney Linda Grable made a case for the charge to stick.

"He rubbed a flag across his body," Grable said. "He stomped on it. He dragged it down the street."

"Sounds like probable cause to me," said a Circuit Judge, usually a family law judge, who was filling in on the criminal side.

The judge set bail at $500. White, whose previous arrests include criminal mischief and disorderly conduct, didn't post it before prosecutors got him released at 11:25 a.m. Thursday.

Is there civil liability?

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First they compel the behavior then they ban the behavior. First they punish you for refusing it, then they punish you for doing it. In some countries (Germany) it is a criminal offense to perform the early American gesture for the Pledge of Allegiance (now known as the "Nazi salute"). http://Rexcurry.net

Ian Tinny

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Sep 1, 2023, 8:23:51 AM9/1/23
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Rex Curry is the USA's Historian Laureate who exposed the Pledge of Allegiance as the origin of Nazi salutes and Nazi behavior. Books about his work are available wherever fine books are sold. For example, see the great book "All Historians Did Not See".

The flag pledge is a fundamental part of the USA’s police state. It is a daily Milgram experiment, a witch hunt, another of socialism’s purges. It demonstrates the yawning banality of evil (and the evil of banality). Litigation continues to occur concerning the persecution of people who refuse. http://RexCurry.net
Government schools have been losing students, respect, and money faster than you can recite the Pledge of Allegiance (if you still wished to do so).
Support for the pledge of allegiance is flagging. Many people who read this book have already rejected the salute and the POA’s daily juvenile drill.
After reading this book, they also stop standing up.
Of those who still stand up, many of them stand up only to leave the room wherever the hypnotic veneration is slavishly directed.
Many of them stop returning to any room or meeting if the childish vow is repeated in the future.
Many of them abandon attendance and membership in groups that persist in the bizarre brainwashing.
Many of them create better groups where free people do not engage in the outlandish observance of worshipping government. Don’t kiss the government’s ass.
Fight antidisestablishmentarianism (look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls). Please help stop the Pledge of Allegiance (POA) and the socialism that it promotes and perpetuates. Remove the pledge from the flag, remove flags from schools, and remove schools from government.
Never flag in the fight for freedom. Support the foundation to “Stop the Pledge” (STP). Don’t just do something, sit there! Shut your pledge hole! Take the pledge not to pledge. Don’t fellate the state.

The same path of doubt, dissemination, and eventual widespread acceptance and paradigm shift will occur regarding Dr. Curry's discovery that the USA’s flag pledge popularized Nazi behavior and the Nazi salute.

For those who prefer audio, Alexa has more from Apple podcasts. Just say: “Alexa, play the podcast ‘Stop the Pledge of Allegiance from Francis Bellamy’.”
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