Blacksmith books in PDF format

[alpinekid]

Hi,
I was just reading the digest from one of the yahoogroups and
someone posted a link to a site with a few old blacksmith books
in PDF format.

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/NewEnterprise/Economies/craftpublications.asp

I havent had a chance to look at them in detail but on the surface they
look good.
This may be old news here but I'm new so give me a break:-)

Has anyone actually read these. I'm looking for advice or opinion on
which ones might be worth printing so I can read them. It is near
impossible to read this stuff on the tube. It is too hard on the eyes
and I can not curl up in bed while doing it.

Al

[don schad]

Darn! I just BOUGHT one of those books!

I'd bet they all have usefull stuff in them, the ones that I just
checked out looked like they had some good stuff in them. You can never
have too many references.

[Rick Barter]

I'm having trouble viewing these with Adobe Acrobat. Has anyone else
had problems with them? I've tried "Wrought Iron Drawings" and a couple
of other ones. Any ideas?

rvb

--
"It is not a sin to lie to your wife in order
to obtain more tools, it is necessary."

Tom Stovall, Feb 2003

[Daniel Dillman]

Rick Barter wrote:
> I'm having trouble viewing these with Adobe Acrobat. Has anyone else
> had problems with them? I've tried "Wrought Iron Drawings" and a couple
> of other ones. Any ideas?

Adobe reader crashed on me, too. Might be a version issue. I have
Adobe Acrobat Reader v6.0x, what do you have? Might be an older version
would work, or perhaps a linux equivalent such as xpdf.

Daniel

[Rob Fertner]

I had a problem too. Someone told me to right click and save. Then open the
pdf file from my hard drive. That worked for me. However, not all of them
have pdf files to download, at the end of each paragraph look for the size
of the pdf file. If it says it then you can download a file, otherwise
nothing there to download.
Rob

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[Simon]

In our last episode Rob Fertner wrote:

> I had a problem too. Someone told me to right click and save. Then
> open the pdf file from my hard drive. That worked for me. However, not
> all of them have pdf files to download, at the end of each paragraph
> look for the size of the pdf file. If it says it then you can download
> a file, otherwise nothing there to download.
> Rob
>

no problem D/L here, although it was bit painful (Mozilla Firebird/Acrobat
5)

the links aren't straight html (they're scripted) hence the reason you
can't right click and download. click on the links and it will (or should,
if you have acrobat installed) open the document in your browser. Once
it's displayed, use 'FILE|SAVE PAGE AS' to save the file to your HDD.

If it doesn't display, you should still see the direct URL for the document
in your address bar. You could try saving the page (even though it's not
displayed), you might get lucky, or you could copy and paste the URL in to
a download manager like getright/star downloader/wackget/etc and get it
that way.

some of the 'books' have been split into sections, so clicking on the link
takes you to an intermediate page. Links to the sections are in a frame on
the right (click on these links and follow the above procedure to save to
your HDD)

S

--
Instead of trying to build bigger and better weapons of mass destruction,
shouldn't we be trying to get better use out of the ones we've already
got....

[Bob Yates]

Mozilla with reader v6 crashes for me also, pity.

[Rick Barter]

Daniel Dillman wrote:

Using Firebird with Adobe 6.x :(

Tried with stupid Internet Explorer too with same results. Therefore,
I'm thinking it's Adobe. :(

[alpinekid]

The ones without the size are multiple files. The title is a link to a
page that allows you to download each section.

I use linux and I have opened them with both xpdf and acrobat for
mozilla under linux.

Al

[alpinekid]

Rick Barter wrote:
> Daniel Dillman wrote:
>
>> Rick Barter wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having trouble viewing these with Adobe Acrobat. Has anyone else
>>> had problems with them? I've tried "Wrought Iron Drawings" and a
>>> couple of other ones. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Adobe reader crashed on me, too. Might be a version issue. I have
>> Adobe Acrobat Reader v6.0x, what do you have? Might be an older
>> version would work, or perhaps a linux equivalent such as xpdf.
>>
>> Daniel
>
>
> Using Firebird with Adobe 6.x :(
>
> Tried with stupid Internet Explorer too with same results. Therefore,
> I'm thinking it's Adobe. :(
>
> rvb
>

My adobe is the plugin for mozilla, adobe 5.0.8 I think, with mozilla
1.7b under the linux OS. I do not have a problem.

The web pages themselves may be some kind of microsoft nonstandard
thing, the asp gives me the clue. The files that you get are standard
PDF. I download the pdf using mozilla with the adobe plugin installed
and then save from there. I use the pdf plugin to print with or xpdf.
either one works.

Al

[Daniel Dillman]

Simon wrote:
> no problem D/L here, although it was bit painful (Mozilla Firebird/Acrobat
> 5)

There's the key, I think. Both people who say they've had no trouble
are using Acrobat 5.x. We who are using Acrobat 6.x have nothing but
trouble with these. This tells me that something in the files makes
Acrobat 6.x choke.

> the links aren't straight html (they're scripted) hence the reason you
> can't right click and download. click on the links and it will (or should,
> if you have acrobat installed) open the document in your browser. Once
> it's displayed, use 'FILE|SAVE PAGE AS' to save the file to your HDD.

This isn't the problem. We can load the page, but when Acrobat Reader
plugin loads, it immediately crashes.

> If it doesn't display, you should still see the direct URL for the document
> in your address bar. You could try saving the page (even though it's not
> displayed), you might get lucky, or you could copy and paste the URL in to

No, the address of the PDF file is never displayed, as the reader
crashes before that point. At least in my case.

Find yourself an older version of Acrobat and try that, guys. See if it
helps.

Daniel

[Terry Thorne]

Hmmmmm
for once my old win98 and 3.01 adobe work!!!

tt

[mrbonaparte]

perhaps someone would be so kind and put them up on their website for us
dummies.
thanks

[Martin H. Eastburn]

Bob Yates wrote:

I was able to read them with Mozilla and my full blown pdf software 5.?.?
There was one that there seemed to be a download issue - engineering metals IIRC
but the 80 pages were there - so maybe a completion across the US across the Atlantic
by way of ?? who know where ?? knowing the randomness of the internet...

martin

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@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer old...@pacbell.net
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NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

[Jim]

I used Adobe Reader 4.0 without problems. I have all the files, 140 MB and
will share with those having problems.

[Neal Pollack]

I'm a newbie to the group, but have been smithing precious metal and
small pieces of steel for a long time. Adobe 6 on Mozilla 1.6 and IE 5.5
crashed on me too. It's an Adobe issue with those files, since I'm only
having problems with the files on that site. Might have something to do
with the fact that the site is .shtml rather than .htm or .html. Sure
would like to see those .pdf files though.

Neal

[Daniel Dillman]

Neal Pollack wrote:
> I'm a newbie to the group, but have been smithing precious metal and
> small pieces of steel for a long time. Adobe 6 on Mozilla 1.6 and IE 5.5
> crashed on me too. It's an Adobe issue with those files, since I'm only
> having problems with the files on that site. Might have something to do
> with the fact that the site is .shtml rather than .htm or .html. Sure
> would like to see those .pdf files though.

Everything I have seen to date strongly suggests that the files are
incompatible with version 6 of Adobe Acrobat. I have not yet had time
to find an older version to load and try out, but I have no doubt that
would work, as others using older versions have reported success.

Daniel

[WhenTheWifeLetsMe]

Have you tried saving the .pdf's to your hard drive and viewing them
from there? Thats what I did and they all work fine for me. I'm
using Adobe reader 6.0 and IE 6.0.2800. Alternately I could post my
PDF's here. If people are okay with that.

Live forever or die trying.

WhenTheWifeLetsMe

[mrbonaparte]

here's all the links to the pdf. Right click and save as.

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/blacksmithscraft_part1_tcm2-15533.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Blacksmithscraft_part2_tcm2-15534.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Blacksmithscraft_part3_tcm2-15535.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Blacksmithscraft_part4_tcm2-15536.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Blacksmithscraft_part5_tcm2-15537.pdf

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20PART%201_tcm2-15545.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20PART%202_tcm2-15546.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20PART%203_tcm2-15547.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20PART%204_tcm2-15548.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20PART%205_tcm2-15549.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORKPART%206_tcm2-15550.pdf

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%201_tcm2-15552.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%202_tcm2-15553.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%203_tcm2-15554.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%204_tcm2-15556.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%205_tcm2-15557.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/WROUGHT%20IRONWORK%20GATES%20PART%206_tcm2-15558.pdf

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/DECORATIVE%20IRONWORK%20PART%201_tcm2-15560.pdf
http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/DECORATIVE%20IRONWORK%20PART%202_tcm2-15561.pdf

[Mark or Chris Parkinson]

Thanks my 6.01 reader couldn't get them

Mark

[mrbonaparte]

np, mine either. I shouldn't have upgraded adobe. lol

[Diogenes]

Can't save them by the tried and true method of just right clicking on
the link. That just saves a link to the page. Gonna just have to bite
the bullet, uninstall Acrobat 6, install 5, do the downloads and
reinstall 6.

Neal

[Mark or Chris Parkinson]

how did you get the urls? there are some other items there I'm interested in
too.

thanks

Mark

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[Neal Pollack]

Uninstalled Adobe 6, installed Adobe 5. Downloaded all the files and
transferred them to my iPaq so I don't have to sit at the computer and
don't have to print them out. Doesn't scale very well on the small
screen though. Going to try one of my OptiVisors...

Neal

[mrbonaparte]

I clicked on the links, let the new window pop up and hit esc before adobe
could mess it up. Then you have the real addy in the address bar.

[Mark or Chris Parkinson]

thankyou

Mark

[Greyangel]

So what I did was let the page crash (definately an ASP web design problem)
and then I copied the URL from the address bar. I then opened up Acrobat
reader and did "file-open" selected the network neiborhood and "entire
network" as a search directory and the gave it the URL as the file name to
open. This worked fine and I just saved the file to my hard drive after
that. Definately NOT a problem with the file. It's the silly ASP. Don't
know why HTML isn't good enough for folks these days...

Greyangel

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[just4fun]

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/NewEnterprise/Economies/craftpublications.asp

~~ snip

> I'm having trouble viewing these with Adobe Acrobat. Has anyone else
> had problems with them? I've tried "Wrought Iron Drawings" and a couple
> of other ones. Any ideas?
>
> rvb

running IE 6, I had problems viewing with Adobe 6.0. I went back to Adobe
5.1... no problems.

whis...@yhti.net