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CL

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Jul 5, 2007, 5:19:44 AM7/5/07
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Okay, I went back and took a look at everything that happened and
decided to turn back the clock and try from scratch. And ... we have
success of a sort. What worked was:

1. Install scim-1.2.3

2. Install anthy-9100. The 9026 version recommended by Robb turned out
to be "anthy-ss" and I am not sure what the "ss" packages are. As it
turns out, neither does anyone else I know. Or, if they do, they're not
telling.

3. Install scim-anthy-1.2.3

No explosions, no fires, nothing melted. Then again, I still have yet
to run any setup or configuration, but I made it all the way to "make
install" with nothing breaking. Three times in a row. !

I am withholding the Snoopy dance announcements until I know more about
actually configuring what I installed.

The next stupid question is, now that I have unpacked and installed the
files, do I keep the folders that were created when I untarred the
original files or can I erase them?

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C "today I am a genius" L

w

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Jul 5, 2007, 7:33:48 AM7/5/07
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Always keep the packing and the receipt. You never know if you want to
return it.

w

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 5, 2007, 8:25:13 AM7/5/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 11:19, CL wrote:

> The next stupid question is, now that I have unpacked and installed the
> files, do I keep the folders that were created when I untarred the
> original files or can I erase them?

Better keep them around, unless you're running out of disk space.

For stuff you compiled on your own, having the build directory around
allows you to run 'make uninstall' if you ever want to get rid of
whatever you complied & installed.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

EW

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Jul 5, 2007, 8:40:37 AM7/5/07
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CL wrote:

> The next stupid question is, now that I have unpacked and installed the
> files, do I keep the folders that were created when I untarred the
> original files or can I erase them?

You can erase them, but you may want to hang on to them because, as Wim
suggests, you might want to run make uninstall to remove the installed
stuff.

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EW

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:20:26 PM7/5/07
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While I do appreciate breasts, I wouldn't be able to run a profitable
business, which I think marks a distinct different between me and Wim.

(Yeah, whatever, just feeling very nitpicky today.)

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

w

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:28:11 PM7/5/07
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If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I earn
my money a different way

w

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:29:47 PM7/5/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:

> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I earn
> my money a different way

Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating breasts,
let me know.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

William Asher

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:38:19 PM7/5/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>
>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I
>> earn my money a different way
>
> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating
> breasts, let me know.
>

If you mean "appreciating" in the sense of "gaining in a quantity," go to
med school and specialize in cosmetic surgery.

--
Bill "making dough by making 'em grow" Asher

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:50:18 PM7/5/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:38, William Asher wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>>
>>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I
>>> earn my money a different way
>>
>> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating
>> breasts, let me know.
>>
>
> If you mean "appreciating" in the sense of "gaining in a quantity," go to
> med school and specialize in cosmetic surgery.  
>

> Bill "making dough by making 'em grow" Asher

Actually, I was thinking about something less gory, like, you know,
touching. Or even just saying "what a nice pair".

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

EW

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:58:19 PM7/5/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

While Wim prefers breasts, I thought you better liked the entire package,
although without the usual dependencies.

I was referring to Wim's keeping the packaging in case Charlie wanted to
return it to the store where he got it. (Your post hadn't arrived here
until after I had sent mine.)
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EW

EW

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Jul 5, 2007, 4:00:41 PM7/5/07
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William Asher wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>>
>>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I
>>> earn my money a different way
>>
>> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating
>> breasts, let me know.
>>
>
> If you mean "appreciating" in the sense of "gaining in a quantity," go to
> med school and specialize in cosmetic surgery.
>

Or become a plumber and develop a sideline business selling those toilet
plunger-like devices that were advertised in last year's spam.

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EW

Steve Caple

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Jul 5, 2007, 4:18:01 PM7/5/07
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:50:18 +0200, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:38, William Asher wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>>>
>>>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I
>>>> earn my money a different way
>>>
>>> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating
>>> breasts, let me know.
>>>
>>
>> If you mean "appreciating" in the sense of "gaining in a quantity," go to

>> med school and specialize in cosmetic surgery. ?


>>
>> Bill "making dough by making 'em grow" Asher
>
> Actually, I was thinking about something less gory, like, you know,
> touching. Or even just saying "what a nice pair".

http://tinyurl.com/3y9x8l

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Steve

William Asher

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Jul 5, 2007, 4:37:44 PM7/5/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:38, William Asher wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>>>
>>>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I
>>>> earn my money a different way
>>>
>>> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating
>>> breasts, let me know.
>>>
>>
>> If you mean "appreciating" in the sense of "gaining in a quantity,"
>> go to med school and specialize in cosmetic surgery.  
>>
>> Bill "making dough by making 'em grow" Asher
>
> Actually, I was thinking about something less gory, like, you know,
> touching. Or even just saying "what a nice pair".
>

Dude:

http://tinyurl.com/2rxll3

because afterwards, you can say "what a nicer pair."

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Bill "you started this" Asher

William Asher

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Jul 5, 2007, 4:38:43 PM7/5/07
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EW wrote:

>
> Or become a plumber and develop a sideline business selling those
> toilet plunger-like devices that were advertised in last year's spam.
>

I thought those were for penises. Maybe that's why I couldn't get it to
work.

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Bill "a dim bulb in a dark world" Asher

EW

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Jul 5, 2007, 5:44:10 PM7/5/07
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William Asher wrote:

> EW wrote:
>
>>
>> Or become a plumber and develop a sideline business selling those
>> toilet plunger-like devices that were advertised in last year's spam.
>>
>
> I thought those were for penises. Maybe that's why I couldn't get it to
> work.
>

Possibly they were ... and that's why I couldn't get them to work.

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EW

CL

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Jul 5, 2007, 8:20:25 PM7/5/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:28, w wrote:
>
>> If we are nitpicking today ! The breast thing is totally pro deo. I earn
>> my money a different way
>
> Well, if you ever come across a way to make money by appreciating breasts,
> let me know.

A former colleague of mine founded a publishing company that prints
nothing but a standard format 48-page full-contact sex book every
Friday. He's always looking for editors to supervise the photography
and handle the layout. You'd also have the opportunity to handle the
model ... or should that be fondle the model ... or, lay out the model ...

They print 25,000 copies each week and the entire production run is sold
before the ink is dry., They sell by subscription and deliver to sex
shops by courier. Pre-payment comes in cash.

He's a multi-millionaire.

CL

Annie Keitz

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Jul 6, 2007, 3:27:49 PM7/6/07
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Boy am I in the wrong line of work. SIGH. At least I sent my resume
out to a few contacts....


CL

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Jul 6, 2007, 4:17:40 PM7/6/07
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The man in question was a sleazebag with two suits and a seven year old
car when we worked together 20-odd years ago. Now, he's a sleazebag
with a new car and he has an assistant to make sure his clothes get
washed and new ones get bought. He still smokes Short Hope cigarettes,
wears mostly plaid, usually several different plaids at once, and he
gets the oil on his hair changed once a day instead of weekly.

Money can't buy class ...

CL

Annie Keitz

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Jul 6, 2007, 4:34:05 PM7/6/07
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:17:40 +0900, CL <flo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Money can't buy class ...

Ain't that the truth! You should see my "rich" relatives....


Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 6, 2007, 7:26:19 PM7/6/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 22:37, William Asher wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/2rxll3
>
> because afterwards, you can say "what a nicer pair."

Not really that much: some of them are so obviously fake
that the original looks much better.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 6, 2007, 7:26:34 PM7/6/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 22:18, Steve Caple wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/3y9x8l

I want one of those.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 6, 2007, 7:27:43 PM7/6/07
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On Friday 6 July 2007 02:20, CL wrote:

> A former colleague of mine founded a publishing company that prints
> nothing but a standard format 48-page full-contact sex book every
> Friday.  He's always looking for editors to supervise the photography
> and handle the layout.  You'd also have the opportunity to handle the
> model ... or should that be fondle the model ... or, lay out the model ...
>
> They print 25,000 copies each week and the entire production run is sold
> before the ink is dry.,  They sell by subscription and deliver to sex
> shops by courier.  Pre-payment comes in cash.
>
> He's a multi-millionaire.

This sounds like an excellent way to mix my passion for typography
(google my name in association with TeX) with my interest for round
soft shapes ...

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 6, 2007, 7:28:58 PM7/6/07
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On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:58, EW wrote:

> While Wim prefers breasts, I thought you better liked the entire package,
> although without the usual dependencies.

Ok, what exactly do you mean by my preference for the 'entire package' and
what would the usual dependencies be?

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

William Asher

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Jul 6, 2007, 8:11:14 PM7/6/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> On Thursday 5 July 2007 22:37, William Asher wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2rxll3
>>
>> because afterwards, you can say "what a nicer pair."
>
> Not really that much: some of them are so obviously fake
> that the original looks much better.
>

Right, take the moral high road now. You were the one who started in about
wanting to be a breast inspector. Now it turns out you are really just a
typical boob snob. I think that if you won't inspect any breast,
regardless of your opinion of its quality, you have no right to the job.

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Bill "egalitarian and offensive" Asher

EW

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Jul 6, 2007, 9:25:27 PM7/6/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> On Thursday 5 July 2007 21:58, EW wrote:
>
>> While Wim prefers breasts, I thought you better liked the entire package,
>> although without the usual dependencies.
>
> Ok, what exactly do you mean by my preference for the 'entire package' and
> what would the usual dependencies be?
>

Knowledge of the usual dependencies is restricted to those who've entered
the state of marital bliss. Entry is barred to those who are unaware that
there is an entire package.

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EW

Steve Caple

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Jul 7, 2007, 12:48:43 AM7/7/07
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Amen, brother Asher. An eclectic appreciation of the varieties of the
human tit is the primary requirement for the job. Granted, those that
resemble almost completely deflated balloons, such as patients 8, 11, or
more particularly patient 17's sad and downcast no-fun bags, do seem
esthetically improved; but others such as 3 to 5, or 12, for example, are
perfectly attractive as were, and the surely have lost in tactile qualities
what they may have gained in visual impact. And yet others (10, 18, and
most egregiously 14) have gone over the line to wretched excess.


--
Steve

CL

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Jul 7, 2007, 12:56:40 AM7/7/07
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You'd have to combine those with an eye for page layout and no allergy
to penicillin or other basic STD treatments. Editorial skill with a
razor might also be a plus, especially if you consider being able to
shave the Subject a job benefit.

They don't use much Tex, but there is a need for lots of latex. You'd
need to show a willingness to wear silicone if you develop a sensitivity
to the natural stuff.

CL

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 2:45:09 AM7/7/07
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On Saturday 7 July 2007 02:11, William Asher wrote:

> Right, take the moral high road now.  You were the one who started in about
> wanting to be a breast inspector.  Now it turns out you are really just a
> typical boob snob.  I think that if you won't inspect any breast,
> regardless of your opinion of its quality, you have no right to the job.  

On the contrary, as a boob inspector I *would* inspect any breast, but
I was mentioning that wouldn't say "what a nice pair", unless *that*
was my job, also to obvious fakes.


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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 2:46:25 AM7/7/07
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On Saturday 7 July 2007 06:56, CL wrote:

> You'd have to combine those with an eye for page layout and no allergy
> to penicillin or other basic STD treatments.  Editorial skill with a
> razor might also be a plus, especially if you consider being able to
> shave the Subject a job benefit.
>
> They don't use much Tex, but there is a need for lots of latex.  You'd
> need to show a willingness to wear silicone if you develop a sensitivity
> to the natural stuff.

Wait, as an editor I would need to have hands-on experience
of the subjects?

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 2:48:26 AM7/7/07
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Ok, I *think* I got it, but sleep deprivation (and no, it has not been
for pleasure) is clouding my perception, so I'll delay a more proper
response to when I'm able to think clearly.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

CL

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Jul 7, 2007, 3:18:06 AM7/7/07
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No, you don't *have* to have hands-on (or other-on) experience of the
subjects. Frankly, there have been some who have been a sure cure for
lustful thoughts of any type, but there is a certain market that pays a
premium for *that* kind of .... thing.

But, if you don't partake occasionally, just don't think the gay jokes
are directed at you and you'll be fine.

--
C "It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest" L

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 3:30:44 AM7/7/07
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On Saturday 7 July 2007 09:18, CL wrote:

> No, you don't have to have hands-on (or other-on) experience of the

> subjects.  Frankly, there have been some who have been a sure cure for
> lustful thoughts of any type, but there is a certain market that pays a

> premium for that kind of .... thing.

I think I get the idea.

> But, if you don't partake occasionally, just don't think the gay jokes
> are directed at you and you'll be fine.

Well, I wouldn't even get most of them anyway.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

CL

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Jul 7, 2007, 3:45:25 AM7/7/07
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> On Saturday 7 July 2007 09:18, CL wrote:
>
>> No, you don't have to have hands-on (or other-on) experience of the
>> subjects. Frankly, there have been some who have been a sure cure for
>> lustful thoughts of any type, but there is a certain market that pays a
>> premium for that kind of .... thing.
>
> I think I get the idea.

Believe me, there are some ideas you don't want to have and some you
regret ever having had. A certain number of his models are fully
qualified as coyote trap girls. But, it gives the occasional good ones
an extra cachet they would not have had except for the ... situation (I
almost wrote "position" but, in his books that equals "any" and
"sometimes more than one at once").

>> But, if you don't partake occasionally, just don't think the gay jokes
>> are directed at you and you'll be fine.
>
> Well, I wouldn't even get most of them anyway.

The photographers and assistants who work for this guy are the kind of
people who would make sure you got the joke.

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 4:08:04 AM7/7/07
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On Saturday 7 July 2007 09:45, CL wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> On Saturday 7 July 2007 09:18, CL wrote:
>>
>>> No, you don't have to have hands-on (or other-on) experience of the
>>> subjects.  Frankly, there have been some who have been a sure cure for
>>> lustful thoughts of any type, but there is a certain market that pays a
>>> premium for that kind of .... thing.
>>
>> I think I get the idea.
>
> Believe me, there are some ideas you don't want to have and some you
> regret ever having had.  A certain number of his models are fully
> qualified as coyote trap girls.  But, it gives the occasional good ones
> an extra cachet they would not have had except for the ... situation (I
> almost wrote "position" but, in his books that equals "any" and
> "sometimes more than one at once").

I think all ideas are worth having. Not all of them may be worth
implementing, but this should never be a preemptive filter on
brainstorming.

>>> But, if you don't partake occasionally, just don't think the gay jokes
>>> are directed at you and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Well, I wouldn't even get most of them anyway.
>
> The photographers and assistants who work for this guy are the kind of
> people who would make sure you got the joke.

Oh, that would be so very nice of them, I'm sure.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

w

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Jul 7, 2007, 8:07:25 AM7/7/07
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I have seen those that you don't want to touch, with the risk of being
smothered or killed if you don't say, what a nice pair

> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/cwshiles/FatGirl.jpg

> http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/FatGirl_FatFriday_Swimsuit_10Nov06.jpg

And these are the censored versions

w

w

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Jul 7, 2007, 8:19:46 AM7/7/07
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And some better ones

http://www.listaholic.com/

w

Giuseppe Bilotta

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Jul 7, 2007, 9:02:46 AM7/7/07
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Much better ones, some of them.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Steve Caple

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Jul 7, 2007, 3:11:16 PM7/7/07
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:07:25 GMT, w wrote:

>> http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/FatGirl_FatFriday_Swimsuit_10Nov06.jpg

Obviously the inspiration for the bumper sticker that read

"I Found It! - and now my finger stinks"


--
Steve

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