Print Tshirts
ASAP Screenprint
We can use your Corel generated art, or design something for you.
--
"Friends are Angels who help us up when our wings won't work"
www.asapshirt.com
Ron Leigh
Screen Printing. Thermal Transfer is the new king. My duaghter age 11 does
em for the kids at school using Corel 4.0 and an HP printer with transfer
paper. No set up fees and a quick cheap image. Longevity, superior quality,
and colorfastness don't count anymore. Quick Fast and Cheap is the new Holy
Trinity of the new Millenium and the Consumer Culture. Sorry but it's true!
where have you been hiding?
ASAP Screenprint wrote in message ...
George L.
Ron Leigh <mega...@tir.com> wrote in message
news:9409869...@news.tir.com...
> Hell EVERYBODY And I mean virtually Everybody is doing T shirts. Screw
> Screen Printing. Thermal Transfer is the new king. My duaghter age 11 does
> em for the kids at school using Corel 4.0 and an HP printer with transfer
> paper. No set up fees and a quick cheap image. Longevity, superior
quality,
> and colorfastness don't count anymore. Quick Fast and Cheap is the new
Holy
> Trinity of the new Millenium and the Consumer Culture. Sorry but it's
true!
> where have you been hiding?
>
say it is alive and doing better than ever. Thermal Transfer may be
alright for a few prototypes and short runs, but if you get into any
kind of volume, screenprinting is the only way to go. It is still how
almost all commercially produced T-shirts are printed. If everyone
is doing something it's usually because there is a lot of money to be
made doing it and there is a tremendous amount of money to be made
doing T-shirts.
I personally don't do T-shirts. I go for the Industrial Decal market
and to my knowledge, no High Tech method can come anywhere
close to my prices, quality and turnaround time on even small quantities.
Also screenprinting works on surfaces that can't be printed with any
other methods. There's a good chance that the copy on most of your
things around your house or work was screenprinted including the
circuit boards in your stereo and the motherboard in your computer.
The rear defogger in your car was most likely screenprinted using
conductive inks. The next time you need to print on a quarter inch
thick piece of Plexiglass, try running it through your inkjet printer.
George Liddell
JL
I would like to order 12 gross of black shirts, printed front and back with a
sleeve print. The image can be no less than 14 inches wide and will contain 2
florescent colors, one puff ink, a gold metal flake, and a glow-in-the-dark
ink. Oh... and can your daughter have them ready in 3 days?
Ron Leigh wrote:
> Hell EVERYBODY And I mean virtually Everybody is doing T shirts. Screw
> Screen Printing. Thermal Transfer is the new king. My duaghter age 11 does
> em for the kids at school using Corel 4.0 and an HP printer with transfer
> paper. No set up fees and a quick cheap image. Longevity, superior quality,
> and colorfastness don't count anymore. Quick Fast and Cheap is the new Holy
> Trinity of the new Millenium and the Consumer Culture. Sorry but it's true!
> where have you been hiding?
> ASAP Screenprint wrote in message ...
> >Looking for an outlet for custom screenprinted tshirts.
> >
> >We can use your Corel generated art, or design something for you.
> >
> >
> >--
> >"Friends are Angels who help us up when our wings won't work"
> >www.asapshirt.com
> >
> >
> >
nargus
either. Haha!
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:54:08 -0700, "George L." <geo...@teleport.com>
wrote:
>
>Ron Leigh <mega...@tir.com> wrote in message
>news:9409869...@news.tir.com...
>> Hell EVERYBODY And I mean virtually Everybody is doing T shirts. Screw
>> Screen Printing. Thermal Transfer is the new king. My duaghter age 11 does
>> em for the kids at school using Corel 4.0 and an HP printer with transfer
>> paper. No set up fees and a quick cheap image. Longevity, superior
>quality,
>> and colorfastness don't count anymore. Quick Fast and Cheap is the new
>Holy
>> Trinity of the new Millenium and the Consumer Culture. Sorry but it's
>true!
>> where have you been hiding?
>>
Ron Leigh
TRUTH! The Imaging market has changed and Screen printing use to enjoy a
rather competitive free market. Short runs and limited durability is what
most folks are after given the design changes in outer wear. If a sweat
shirt or T shirt lasts more than 3 mo's in most households it's a miracle.
The Product is then in concert with the market place. Furthermore, advances
in technology like, the Gerber Edge have put the Silk Screen Industry on
notice as far as, detailed multi-colored labels with intricate layouts. The
days of the Self Grandising, Ego-centric so-called "Artists' are over for
good. Advances in Software and Technology have literally removed any vestige
of human skill in the Imaging business. Entreprenuers that once fancied
themselves as "Uniquely Talended and Experienced" are seriously being
challenged head on and losing the battle of human capability to the
Computer. Now, having said all that, I must confess, I did not create those
realities. I'm simply pointing out what I'm sure you already know, but have
been denying or minimizing. Don't kill the messenger because he bears the
truth. Get a Grip!
George L. wrote in message ...
Ron Leigh
little girl does em for School Kids. She does a great job for an 11 year
old. Her targeted market is consistant with her capabilities and time. What
were you doing at 11 besides reading comic books and cuffing your carrot?
JL wrote in message <38167869...@gte.net>...
>That sounds great to me.
>I would like to order 12 gross of black shirts, printed front and back with
a
>sleeve print. The image can be no less than 14 inches wide and will contain
2
>florescent colors, one puff ink, a gold metal flake, and a glow-in-the-dark
>ink. Oh... and can your daughter have them ready in 3 days?
>
>Ron Leigh wrote:
>
>> Screen Printing. Thermal Transfer is the new king. My duaghter age 11
does
>> em for the kids at school using Corel 4.0 and an HP printer with transfer
>> paper. No set up fees and a quick cheap image. Longevity, superior
quality,
>> and colorfastness don't count anymore. Quick Fast and Cheap is the new
Holy
>> Trinity of the new Millenium and the Consumer Culture. Sorry but it's
true!
>> where have you been hiding?
JL
Ron Leigh wrote:
> You do not have such an order. Your merely attempting to be antagonistic.
No, just using a bit of sarcasm to point out the limitations of "iron-on"
transfers.
> My little girl does em for School Kids. She does a great job for an 11 year
> old. Her targeted market is consistant with her capabilities and time.
I am sure she does a wonderful job. Your comparing apples and oranges. Don't
confuse professionalism with hobby-ism. I have never seen iron-on transfers sold
in a reputable clothing outlet or event. They are reserved for bootlegs at a
flea market and "here today, gone tomorrow" kiosks.
Screen printing has been around for centuries. It has a place in the art,
business, and amateur world and will for centuries to come. Screen printing is
not archaic by any means. New technology is constantly being developed for many
different applications. In a previous response, George L describe just a few of
the many things that are screen printed. The instrument panel in your car is
screen printed. The designs you see on your CD's are screen printed (and on and
on). I have been designing for screen printing for 15 years. Don't knock
something you know nothing about. Sorry, but your "facts" are incorrect, quality
is the most important aspect clients are looking for in a product. Where I come
from, quality and design are what sells.
JL
Ron Leigh wrote:
> Well, I wasn't trying to argue with you. I was simply pointing out the
> TRUTH! The Imaging market has changed and Screen printing use to enjoy a
> rather competitive free market.
Sure it has changed, but new technology is not replacing screen printing. If
anything, it is enhancing the process.
> Short runs and limited durability is what
> most folks are after given the design changes in outer wear. If a sweat
> shirt or T shirt lasts more than 3 mo's in most households it's a miracle.
I would return the shirt to the store.
>
> The Product is then in concert with the market place. Furthermore, advances
> in technology like, the Gerber Edge have put the Silk Screen Industry on
> notice as far as, detailed multi-colored labels with intricate layouts.
Gerber develops products for various signage uses and methods of applications.
You do not want to apply vinyl to a tshirt any more that you want to screen
print on the side of a van.
> The
> days of the Self Grandising, Ego-centric so-called "Artists' are over for
> good.
Where you abused by an artist when you were a child?
> Advances in Software and Technology have literally removed any vestige
> of human skill in the Imaging business. Entreprenuers that once fancied
> themselves as "Uniquely Talended and Experienced" are seriously being
> challenged head on and losing the battle of human capability to the
> Computer.
Wrong. Computers are just a tool, like a pencil. Without the human input, it
just sits there. The only thing a computer does is make the process easier and
the output more refined.
Computers do not make someone an artist any more than a typewriter can make
someone a writer. You are talking gibberish.
> Now, having said all that, I must confess, I did not create those
> realities. I'm simply pointing out what I'm sure you already know, but have
> been denying or minimizing. Don't kill the messenger because he bears the
> truth. Get a Grip!
You are obvoiusly misinformed.
BA
bitmap program and a printer can crank out T-shirts, and that that my take
away SOME business from real silk-screen artists. It's also true that
desktop haberdashery is a long way from matching screenprinting for
durability and output.
I like JL's analogy, that a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
than a typewriter doesn't make one a writer. Hell, everybody has pencils,
but most people can't draw flies with their own halitosis. Or write anything
you want to read.
As you may know, Gutenburg had to do some sneaking and dodging to find a
place to set up his press, 530-some years ago. The guilds of scribes didn't
want him to draw away their business. Apparently, a lot of those scribes
were not writers or calligraphers. But I'd hazard a guess that the printing
press has generated more business for writers and calligraphers than would
have been the case otherwise. Tough luck for the mere copyist.
I love being able to make iron-ons for T-shirts. Particularly, I like
being able to make a design in Corel and then e-mail it to somebody else to
do the printing & ironing. Nevertheless, I know this is essentially
playing-around, and on a small scale. For the real product, I'd have to talk
with a real printer.
BA
J Kirby Inwood
kirby
"BA" <spectratmindspringdotcom> postulates:
>> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
>> than a typewriter doesn't make one a writer.
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BA
J Kirby Inwood wrote in message <38187283...@news1.on.sympatico.ca>...
>I like that. Consider it stolen. ;-)
>kirby
>
>"BA" <spectratmindspringdotcom> postulates:
>
>>> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
>>> than a typewriter doesn't make one a writer.
Thanks, but I sort of 'researched' it from JL's post last night.
BA
Ron Leigh
artist. The point I'm trying to make is, The marketplace wants product that
looks like it's artistic. Not neccessarily a work of fine art, by an artist
Hell! Most don't know the difference or even care to know the difference. 1)
they won't pay you what you deserve for it, 2) they don't care how it was
made 3) How fast can it be made? It's a Disposable,Cusumer society type
mentality. I'm not saying some out their don't have the Artisitic and
technological capability to generate some really Awsome stuff, I mean, one
of kind, mind blowing, intricate stuff! It takes TIME and MATERIAL to do
that. With todays Software that can generate texture, text, design, color,
through the use of point and click clip art, the freehanded, artistically
inspired, stuff is fast becoming obsolete.---if not already. Can a computer
create an artist? Hell No! Can a computer create something artistic? YES!
Who in the hell do you think the created the Clip Art? ----- Brick layers?
While we're making comparisons consider the Photographer when Daguro Tin
Types were available. Did Portrait artists readily welcome them into the
fold of Artists? No. Photographers left them standing in the dust of a "High
tech" devilish machine that supposedly captured your soul as well as, your
image. The SMART portrait artists went out and bought camera's. So now
please, who's the real artist Ancil Adams or Albert Bierdstadt. (SP.)
J Kirby Inwood wrote in message <38187283...@news1.on.sympatico.ca>...
>I like that. Consider it stolen. ;-)
>kirby
>
>"BA" <spectratmindspringdotcom> postulates:
>
>>> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
>>> than a typewriter doesn't make one a writer.
>
Ron Leigh
is already available, a Thermal Resin Transfer process whereas, A Sweatshirt
can be loaded into a media guide and in one pass it will produce incredibly
intricate, finely detailed, multi-colored images, of the highest integrity
and colorfastness. I've seen at a trade show in Indianpolis 2 years ago.
Canvas could be loaded with software controls for separate textiles utilized
and texture controls implemented producing Oil Paintings complete with
computer enhanced brush strokes. I can't make my case any easier to
understand.
I'm reminded of the Blacksmith that produced exceptionally high quality
works of steel and was renowned for his horse shoeing abilties. He would be
praised and well paid for years during his career. He would work day and
night 7 days a week, had to hire 2 apprentices to fill his orders for Long
Lasting, Quality fitting, Horse shoes. After working all night, tried and
spent, all orders filled, he closed his shop and began to walk home and was
run over by an automobile. Laying their severely injured, he looked up and
in shock asked "What happened" his neighbor that rushed to his aid said."
You were run over by an Automobile" In his last breath he queried, "What's
an Automobile?
JL wrote in message <38175CD9...@gte.net>...
JL
Ron Leigh wrote:
> Your absolutely correct in your assertion about a computer not making one an
> artist. The point I'm trying to make is, The marketplace wants product that
> looks like it's artistic. Not neccessarily a work of fine art, by an artist
> Hell! Most don't know the difference or even care to know the difference.
True... but they DO know what they like. ( yes, that is stolen, too, BA, heheh)
And there are those who know the difference and appreciate what it is worth.
> 1)
> they won't pay you what you deserve for it, 2) they don't care how it was
> made 3)
Oh how true, but you get what you pay for.
> How fast can it be made? It's a Disposable,Cusumer society type
> mentality.
I believe it to be a manufacturing mentality.. planned obsolescence, job
security. But consumers do have a choice with a few exceptions.... like...
hmmm...
> I'm not saying some out their don't have the Artisitic and
> technological capability to generate some really Awsome stuff, I mean, one
> of kind, mind blowing, intricate stuff! It takes TIME and MATERIAL to do
> that. With todays Software that can generate texture, text, design, color,
> through the use of point and click clip art, the freehanded, artistically
> inspired, stuff is fast becoming obsolete.---if not already.
I disagree. There will always be a market for original creativity. One doesn't
need "technological capability to generate some really Awsome stuff". Sure it
takes time.
That is why a handmade quilt sells for thousands of dollars where as one made on
a machine sells for $29.95 at Walmart. Now I am not knocking Walmart, I am not
too proud to shop there. But without considering the monetary value, which
quilt would you appreciate more?
> Can a computer
> create an artist? Hell No! Can a computer create something artistic? YES!
> Who in the hell do you think the created the Clip Art? ----- Brick layers?
Brick layers can create clip art if they want. And they don't need a computer.
Clip art existed long before computers were invented. They were found in things
called books. And before that, you probably could have found them etched on a
metal plate, though I am sure they weren't called clip art. Clip art is nothing
more than an image that is recycled over and over (didn't you say something
about a disposable society?) It is used by those who either don't have the time
or the ability to create something original. You are right, some people do not
want to pay for what it is worth. For those people I use clip art, it is fast
and cheap and usually looks like it.
>
> While we're making comparisons consider the Photographer when Daguro Tin
> Types were available. Did Portrait artists readily welcome them into the
> fold of Artists? No. Photographers left them standing in the dust of a "High
> tech" devilish machine that supposedly captured your soul as well as, your
> image. The SMART portrait artists went out and bought camera's.
Yes, some artists did use cameras and still do today. But did the camera replace
the artist? No. The Impressionists were influenced and inspired by photography.
Daguerretypes (sp?) offered a cheap black and white picture of those who could
not afford a painted portrait. Portrait artists didn't cater to that market so
why would they have been concerned?
Photographer or painter, it takes an artistic eye to capture the soul of the
subject.
It took years and George Eastman to get the camera into the hands of the public.
Most everyone has a camera now, but it doesn't make them photographers (or
artists). If it did, everyone would be another Olan Mills. By the way, why do
you think Olan Mills is successful? The price? No. The quality. They offer a
lifetime guarantee. And you still think this is a disposable society?
.
> So now please, who's the real artist Ancil Adams or Albert Bierdstadt. (SP.)
Both. They just used different medium. They both had the "eye". You can call
Ansel Adams "just a picture taker". But then you can call Bierdstadt "just an
illustrator", which can lead to a completely different discussion.
It all depends on what the consumer wants.
If they want something cheap, they get it.
If they want something expensive, they get it.
Think about the business philosophy:
Service, Price, and Quality.
You can only offer two out of the three at one time.
And there is always a market out there for each combination.
Walter Daniels
>Ron Leigh wrote:
>> Short runs and limited durability is what
>> most folks are after given the design changes in outer wear. If a sweat
>> shirt or T shirt lasts more than 3 mo's in most households it's a miracle.
>I would return the shirt to the store.
As well you should. I worl very hard to make sure I produce quality,
lasting items. If they only lasted three months, I wouldn't sell them.
I even deliberately abuse them to see if they will hold up.
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John W. Wells wrote in message <38187f40...@news.mindspring.com>...
>It ought to read:
> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
> than a typewriter makes one a writer.
---------------------------
The double negative was intended.
BA
Ron Leigh
quantifier could be utilized
to clarify what exactly is Art! That which is produced by a computer or that
which is produced by human skill. The planned, deliberate, "De-Skilling
Process" intended by the computer is suppose to minimize the value of human
capital. The resulting effect is, to lower wages, Increase profits and level
the Playing Field for all to participate in a variety of services previously
dominated by the individual. Nothing is a trade secret anymore. Computers
and software rule. The encroachment of the computer into the field of
graphics has put literally thousands into the field, that otherwise would
not have pursued it due to, limitations in pen and ink, creativity and
talent. Somewhere near you, is somebody with a computer, an artistic
"Wannabe" with enough computer savy to manipulate the software and grab a
portion of your market share. Now plug some some very effective Marketing
Strategies into that service and you've got yourself a full fledged,
serious, competitor that WILL get your attention. You No Longer Rule! I hope
you produce a silk screened shirt that earns the Nobel Prize. Nevertheless,
the very success of Corel itself should tell you something.
Simply because one has been around a while does not score much on todays
business resume, Revere Aluminum has been around for Centuries. Bill Gates
and Microsoft a couple of decades. (GEEE what happened to longevity as a
credential argument? ) Well! I'm supremely talented and everyone will
recognize it and pay for it (the world is full of talent ) But, I produce
only the very finest (Uhuh, so does everyone else) "Beauty is in the eye of
the beholder" or is that too abstract? I won't pursue this thread any longer
or respond to any additional posts regarding it. I have nothing to lose or
gain either way. I'm not much for getting stuck in ruts like some of posts
I've read.
JL wrote in message <3818B93A...@gte.net>...
droe2
BA <spectratmindspringdotcom> wrote in message news:7v82dn$46g$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net...
> I can listen to both JL and Ron Leigh. It's true that anyone with a
> bitmap program and a printer can crank out T-shirts, and that that my take
> away SOME business from real silk-screen artists.
Oh? I thought most of them were dead and those that are alive are
merely a bunch of drunks anyway. BTW,know anyone who even
stocks and sells silk anymore? Rare commodity.
droe2
JL <j.l...@gte.net> wrote in message news:38176721...@gte.net...
[snip]
> Gerber develops products for various signage uses and methods of applications.
> You do not want to apply vinyl to a tshirt any more that you want to screen
> print on the side of a van.
Perhaps you didn't know that Gerber also has (or had as I haven't
used it in a few years) plastisol on a carrier sheet the same as
their vinyl. Cut it on a plotter and you are ready to transfer it to
textile. Worked great on a bunch of directors chairs we had to
do for a movie production company where each seat back was a
different name.
JL
computer oriented. Art cannot be explained in binary code and is a subject that
requires much discussion to understand. The average person just needs to know
what they like.
I am not sure where you are coming from with statements such as "De-skilling
Process", none of it makes much sense and is often contradicting. Your claims
seems to be nothing more than an obtuse opinion, which your are entitled to, I
guess.
Yes, this thread needs to end. Actually the whole discussion belongs in another
news group. But hopefully you have learned something.
JL
> Perhaps you didn't know that Gerber also has (or had as I haven't
> used it in a few years) plastisol on a carrier sheet the same as
> their vinyl. Cut it on a plotter and you are ready to transfer it to
> textile. Worked great on a bunch of directors chairs we had to
> do for a movie production company where each seat back was a
> different name.
No, I was not aware that Gerber was among the manufacturers that produced that
product.
I know of a few screen printers that use the product when their customers request
it, but it is rare.
J Kirby Inwood
dj...@7Tsimmery.axe (John W. Wells) postulates:
>> >>> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
>> >>> than a typewriter doesn't make one a writer.
>>
>> Well, geez, if you're gonna steal it and actually intend to USE it, at
>> least have it make some sense.
>>
>> It ought to read:
>> a computer doesn't make one an artist any more
>> than a typewriter makes one a writer.
>>
>> John W. Wells <G>
nargus
>
>
>snipsnipsnip
>
>Brick layers can create clip art if they want. And they don't need a computer.
>Clip art existed long before computers were invented. They were found in things
>called books. And before that, you probably could have found them etched on a
>metal plate, snipt...
Clip art. What was the first moveable type? What was the first block
print? What was the first silk screen? (small metal - or wood - clip
art was called a dingbat. Hmmm. I wonder where Zapf Dingbats got its
name.)
This discussion is like Art History 101 which some of us had more
years ago than we want to admit.
As a working graphic artist, my business has always depended on the
fact that the customer always wants something new and 'new' is merely
a matter of viewpoint. To quote a cliche: there's nothing new under
the sun.
However, I also work as a fine artist. I actually apply pigment to a
surface with a tool according to a preconcieved plan or merely at
whim. No one ever painted the paintings I paint. Some people don't
like or understand my paintings. Sometimes I don't like my paintings
and other people do. Regardless, I am considered very creative by
both my fine art buyers and my graphic art clients. It's my
profession and my passion.
As was said before, the computer is merely a tool. Likewise the
camera, the brush, the pencil, the stylus, the hand, the finger.
Oh, yes. I've also done T-shirts on my computer for iron-on and for
production by silk screen. One looked like it was done by an 11-year
old.
JL
nargus wrote:
>
>
> Clip art. What was the first moveable type? What was the first block
> print? What was the first silk screen? (small metal - or wood - clip
> art was called a dingbat. Hmmm. I wonder where Zapf Dingbats got its
> name.)
>
> This discussion is like Art History 101 which some of us had more
> years ago than we want to admit.
>
> As a working graphic artist, my business has always depended on the
> fact that the customer always wants something new and 'new' is merely
> a matter of viewpoint. To quote a cliche: there's nothing new under
> the sun.
>
> However, I also work as a fine artist. I actually apply pigment to a
> surface with a tool according to a preconcieved plan or merely at
> whim. No one ever painted the paintings I paint. Some people don't
> like or understand my paintings. Sometimes I don't like my paintings
> and other people do. Regardless, I am considered very creative by
> both my fine art buyers and my graphic art clients. It's my
> profession and my passion.
>
> As was said before, the computer is merely a tool. Likewise the
> camera, the brush, the pencil, the stylus, the hand, the finger.
>
> Oh, yes. I've also done T-shirts on my computer for iron-on and for
> production by silk screen. One looked like it was done by an 11-year
> old.
Right you are. That was a long time ago. I worked hard over the years to forget all
that.
Your profession is not unlike mine. It offers the opportunity to create something
without having to worry about what others may think, or even yourself. Which reminds
me of those old critique sessions which were much easier to forget.
JL
>
> Oh? I thought most of them were dead and those that are alive are
> merely a bunch of drunks anyway. BTW,know anyone who even
> stocks and sells silk anymore? Rare commodity.
Who do you think printed that Beastie Boys shirt you put on this morning?
Silk is obviously no longer used. Just like "tinkling the ivories" (or whatever the correct
phrase may be). Piano keys are no longer made of ivory. The term is still used though it is
incorrect.
Tom Perry
JL <j.l...@gte.net> wrote:
>
<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>
> You do not want to apply vinyl to a tshirt any more that you want to
screen
> print on the side of a van.
>
Some of my customers insist on "the hand painted look" on their
vehicles as they don't care for the look of vinyl. I figure what they
don't know won't hurt 'em and and go ahead and screen print it on.
Tom
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droe2
Tom Perry <tpe...@efws.com> wrote in message news:7vdqcc$shq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <38176721...@gte.net>,
> JL <j.l...@gte.net> wrote:
> >
> <<<<<<<snip>>>>>>
> > You do not want to apply vinyl to a tshirt any more that you want to
> screen
> > print on the side of a van.
> <<<<<<<<more snipping>>>>>>>>
> Some of my customers insist on "the hand painted look" on their
> vehicles as they don't care for the look of vinyl. I figure what they
> don't know won't hurt 'em and and go ahead and screen print it on.
Excuse my ignorance, but even if you do screen print directly on
a vehicle (and that's how we used to apply the gold logos to the UPS
trucks) how does that simulate a brush stroke?
droe2
JL <j.l...@gte.net> wrote in message news:3819A93A...@gte.net...
If I didn't print it I don't wear it. And they are not my league
If the term is incorrect (and it is as a local "silk-screener" found out the
-- hard way) then why do the folks who know better still use the term which
only educates the ignorant improperly?
The screen process print industry spends many millions of dollars
each year (some of it my dues $$$) to promote itself and educate the
public. Do we need professionals, semi pros and wannabees undercutting
their efforts?
Tom Perry
retrov...@my-deja.com
screenprinting equipment so I can make some quality shirts?
Thanx
A Campos
you want to do it yourself because you have a small run and everyone you
priced wanted an arm and a leg if they would even take the job?
If it is the latter, I specialize in small runs. If it is the former I can
help you with suppliers. Let me know
In article <805mgr$a7g$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, retrov...@my-deja.com says...
retrov...@my-deja.com
100-200 shirts a week. I don't want to spend a whole lot. Maybe
somewhere around $2-5,000 for some decent equipment. I would probably
even go for some used stuff in real good shape.
Thanks.
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