Milk going bad?
Gary
use it for cereal. After a time though, I mainly use it for coffee.
Eventually, it starts smelling sour and a few days later will congeal in my
coffee and float to the top. That's when I've always thrown it out.
Some of you have mentioned uses for milk at this stage. I have almost a half
gallon now. It worked fine in my coffee this morning but will turn tomorrow
or the next day. I used two cups today to make some "Au Gratin" potatoes
and I know that will be fine.
Once it turns though (congeals in my coffee), is there something else I can
use it for? Or just throw it out like I've always done?
Gary
Dora
Gary, I know it's cheaper to buy milk by the gallon. However, if you
are routinely throwing out up to a half a gallon, you're not saving
anything - in fact, you're out of pocket. There are, no doubt,
thrifty souls on this newsgroup who will use curdled milk in some way
but it's not something I care to do. YMMV.
Did you know you can freeze fresh milk?
Dora
Jerry Avins
I assume it's ultrapasteurized. (Phui!, as Nero Wolf would say.) About
all you can do with that is baking. Pancakes and biscuits, maybe more.
Jerry
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Ron
wrote:
We used to buy milk by the gallon when the kids were living at home.
Kept on doing it out of force of habit. Like you we found we were
throwing away more milk than we were drinking. Switched to half
gallon containers and we seldom have to throw any away. Don't know if
that is an option for you, but if it is, give it a shot.
Ron Kelley
Jerry Avins
Either my arithmetic skills are departing or there's something else I
haven't figured. When you buy milk by the gallon more than half goes
bad, but when you buy half a gallon, it all gets used. What gives?
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Er...Jerry, the half that was drinkable was gone and the other half of
the gallon continues to deteriorate just cause its not gone
I switched to quarts of milk for the same reason, i couldn't use up a
half gallon quickly enough to keep a portion of it from going bad.
I used to do a lot more baking and elaborate cooking than i do these
days and used a lot more milk with that more elaborate cooking than i do
these days when i make much more simple meals.
Steamed veggies, rice or pasta a bit of meat and maybe a bit of sauce,
just enough for a meal.
I used to routinely make pints of sauce at a time. I hardly ever make a
dessert, cake, ice cream or puddings anymore.
Though i broke down today and used a couple of cups of milk with some
'nilla wafers that were on sale and some bananas and instant vanilla
pudding, course i had to buy some whipping cream to go with.
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containers - 1 quart or 1 litre (in Canada milk is sold by the litre)
If you have to buy larger amounts, why not freeze some? You could save some
jugs from previously discarded milk - wash them out.....then perhaps freeze
1/2 the milk - this makes more economical sense to me rather than throwing
out the milk.
Frozen milk in smaller quantities will thaw much faster.
JMO
M.
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." <jpst...@isp.com> wrote in message
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> I used to do a lot more baking and elaborate cooking than I do these days
> and used a lot more milk with that more elaborate cooking than I do these
> days when I make much more simple meals.
>
> Steamed veggies, rice or pasta a bit of meat and maybe a bit of sauce,
> just enough for a meal.
>
> I used to routinely make pints of sauce at a time. I hardly ever make a
> dessert, cake, ice cream or puddings anymore.
>
> Though I broke down today and used a couple of cups of milk with some
> 'nilla wafers that were on sale and some bananas and instant vanilla
> pudding, course I had to buy some whipping cream to go with.
Dora
Example: you buy a gallon. You use half a gallon in, say, a week.
By that time, the rest of the gallon is already a week old so it's
downhill from there.
If you buy a half gallon, it's gone by the end of the week. Bingo -
you buy fresh.
Jerry Avins
Ron wrote:
>>> We used to buy milk by the gallon when the kids were living at home.
>>> Kept on doing it out of force of habit. Like you we found we were
>>> throwing away more milk than we were drinking. Switched to half
>>> gallon containers and we seldom have to throw any away. Don't know if
>>> that is an option for you, but if it is, give it a shot.
>>
>>
>> Either my arithmetic skills are departing or there's something else I
>> haven't figured. When you buy milk by the gallon more than half goes
>> bad, but when you buy half a gallon, it all gets used. What gives?
>>
>> Jerry
>
> Er...Jerry, the half that was drinkable was gone and the other half of
> the gallon continues to deteriorate just cause its not gone
I still don't get it. Ron wrote, "... throwing away more than we were
drinking", i.e, drinking less than half of the gallon. But he almost
always finishes half a gallon. Is it merely a matter of perception?
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Jerry Avins
...
> Example: you buy a gallon. You use half a gallon in, say, a week. By
> that time, the rest of the gallon is already a week old so it's downhill
> from there.
> If you buy a half gallon, it's gone by the end of the week. Bingo - you
> buy fresh.
Please see my reply to Joseph.
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Jerry Avins wrote:
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>
> Ron wrote:
>
>>>> We used to buy milk by the gallon when the kids were living at home.
>>>> Kept on doing it out of force of habit. Like you we found we were
>>>> throwing away more milk than we were drinking. Switched to half
>>>> gallon containers and we seldom have to throw any away. Don't know if
>>>> that is an option for you, but if it is, give it a shot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Either my arithmetic skills are departing or there's something else I
>>> haven't figured. When you buy milk by the gallon more than half goes
>>> bad, but when you buy half a gallon, it all gets used. What gives?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> Er...Jerry, the half that was drinkable was gone and the other half of
>> the gallon continues to deteriorate just cause its not gone
>
>
> I still don't get it. Ron wrote, "... throwing away more than we were
> drinking", i.e, drinking less than half of the gallon. But he almost
> always finishes half a gallon. Is it merely a matter of perception?
>
> ...
>
> Jerry
Ah, well, if your math skills are subject to the inevitable aging
process so are my reading comprehension skills, i missed the "throwing
away more than we drink" part altogether:(
One time (in another group) some one asked for a use for a large amount
of oranges and i took the time to type up some various orange marmalade
& jam recipes i had, only to find, to my embarrassment, a day later,
that the second sentence in the original request specified 'no
marmalade' recipes.
Dora
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>
> Ron wrote:
>
>>>> We used to buy milk by the gallon when the kids were living at
>>>> home. Kept on doing it out of force of habit. Like you we found
>>>> we were throwing away more milk than we were drinking. Switched
>>>> to half gallon containers and we seldom have to throw any away.
>>>> Don't know if that is an option for you, but if it is, give it a
>>>> shot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Either my arithmetic skills are departing or there's something
>>> else
>>> I haven't figured. When you buy milk by the gallon more than half
>>> goes bad, but when you buy half a gallon, it all gets used. What
>>> gives? Jerry
>>
>> Er...Jerry, the half that was drinkable was gone and the other half
>> of the gallon continues to deteriorate just cause its not gone
>
> I still don't get it. Ron wrote, "... throwing away more than we
> were
> drinking", i.e, drinking less than half of the gallon. But he almost
> always finishes half a gallon. Is it merely a matter of perception?
>
> ...
>
> Jerry
No, I think it's your engineering background coming into play!
Ron
Sorry, Jerry... I was generalizing about the amounts of milk both
before and after switching to half gallon containers. I should have
been more specific. When we bought milk by the gallon, we could no
longer finish the gallon before it went bad. By switching to half
gallon containers we almost always finish the half gallon before it
goes bad.
When I said we were throwing away more milk than we were drinking, it
was just a comment. "More" might be only half the gallon of milk
plus a few cups. I'll try to be more specific in the future.
Ron Kelley
Gary
>
> Ron wrote:
> > Kept on doing it out of force of habit. Like you we found we were
> > throwing away more milk than we were drinking. Switched to half
> > gallon containers and we seldom have to throw any away. Don't know if
> > that is an option for you, but if it is, give it a shot.
>
> Either my arithmetic skills are departing or there's something else I
> haven't figured. When you buy milk by the gallon more than half goes
> bad, but when you buy half a gallon, it all gets used. What gives?
>
> Jerry
Come on now...either Jerry is just messing with your head or... ;)
As far as me, a gallon of milk costs only $1 more than a half-gallon....so I
keep on buying the gallons. Sometimes it lasts long enough to use
completely but sometimes it goes bad by the half-gallon mark. I just need
to eat more cereal once I buy a new gallon?
Jerry Avins
> On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:44:25 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote:
>
>> Dora wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Example: you buy a gallon. You use half a gallon in, say, a week. By
>>> that time, the rest of the gallon is already a week old so it's downhill
>>> from there.
>>> If you buy a half gallon, it's gone by the end of the week. Bingo - you
>>> buy fresh.
>> Please see my reply to Joseph.
>
>
> The rate of spoilage is proportionate to the amounts of milk left in
> the container. Smaller amounts will spoil slower than larger
> amounts, hence, a half gallon will last a day or so longer.
>
> Don't buy that? Then try this one:
>
> The plastic jugs made from HDPE #2 plastic are actually slightly
> porous, allowing air and other contaminates into the container. The
> half gallon containers have less surface area on them, thus allowing
> less contaminates into the jug over the time period. Or else
> they're made from wax-coated cardboard, which is less porous than
> the HDPE plastic.
Could be. It might be worth the price of one of each to see which turns
first. Unfortunately, I haven't the room in my fridge.
> Chose the one that you're happy with. Or you can buy both of them
> and save 25%.
??
Jerry Avins
Don't sweat it! I'm too literal minded.
lil abner
spoiled.
I don't know what they are doing to milk these days. It started around
the time a national food company gobbled up the last few smaller dairies
around the region.
Jerry Avins
> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:58:29 -0500, Jerry Avins wrote:
>
>>> Chose the one that you're happy with. Or you can buy both of them
>>> and save 25%.
>> ??
>
> are half full, they allow more contaminated air into them than would
> a half-full half-gallon jug, thus increasing the rate of spoilage.
>
> I think that the easiest one to digest from a scientific standpoint.
> I would choose answer #3.
>
> They all actually do explain why a half gallon jug would spoil less
> quickly than a gallon jug, thus allowing the OP to finish a half
> gallon jug before spoiling, while not being able to finish half of a
> gallon jug in the same time frame.
>
> Granted, it was just worded slightly wrong and you were picking
> nits, but there were valid explanations :-)
We both have too much time to kill.
Stormmmee
week, Lee
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Gary
>
> i can't wait to read the answers, dh and i were discussing this ust this
> week, Lee
Last week, I tried something new.....bought a box of powdered milk. I
figured that it might not be good for drinking or cereal but would be great
for coffee and recipes.
I think I guessed right. I wouldn't use it for drinking (I tried it) or
cereal. It works great for coffee though and I might try making pancakes
this weekend with it (and I suspect it will be ok for that).
Using this powdered milk for those things should save me a bit of money...no
more wasted realmilk. If I get into a cereal mood (rare), I'll just buy
some real stuff.
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can get snowed in it means sometimes we can't get to a store so having it is
a safety net, and it keeps forever, Lee
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Joan F (MI)
better.
Jerry Avins
> If you mix it a bit stronger than the directions say, it tastes a lot
> better.
Depending on taste, up to twice as strong.
Bigbazza
> I buy a gallon at a time. In the beginning, I'll drink some with meals
> and
> use it for cereal. After a time though, I mainly use it for coffee.
> Eventually, it starts smelling sour and a few days later will congeal in
> my
> coffee and float to the top. That's when I've always thrown it out.
>
> Some of you have mentioned uses for milk at this stage. I have almost a
> half
> gallon now. It worked fine in my coffee this morning but will turn
> tomorrow
> or the next day. I used two cups today to make some "Au Gratin" potatoes
> and I know that will be fine.
>
> Once it turns though (congeals in my coffee), is there something else I
> can
> use it for? Or just throw it out like I've always done?
>
> Gary
Hi, I'm a late entry here on this thread....
Gary, having some idea of how much of the gallon of milk that you need and
an average of how much is usually left over at the end of the week, how
about making up a small quantity of home made Yoghurt when first
bought...You then have another use for the milk, and the yoghurt has a much
longer life than the milk has...Only a thought!
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Bigbazza (Barry) Oz
"Happiness is never an accident. It is the prize we get when we choose
wisely from life's great stores"
Gary
That's actually a *great* idea, Barry. Thanks for that. I had forgotten
about making my own yogurt. We used to do that all the time here back when
I was married. My gas oven with the pilot light stayed the perfect
temperature for making yogurt too. Put it in the oven in the evening and
instant homemade yogurt by morning.
I forget the recipe but do remember that it was simple....pour milk in
little cups, then stir in a tsp or so of active yogurt. Put all in oven
overnight and have lots of yogurt the next morning.
Thank you for the idea. I do like yogurt but rarely buy it. Making it
myself will get me back into the habit.
Stormmee
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julie
> this is a very good idea, got an easy recipe? Lee
>
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> > "Gary" <g.maj...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >news:4B1BD9CE...@worldnet.att.net...
> >> I buy a gallon at a time. In the beginning, I'll drink some with meals
> >> and
> >> use it for cereal. After a time though, I mainly use it for coffee.
> >> Eventually, it starts smelling sour and a few days later will congeal in
> >> my
> >> coffee and float to the top. That's when I've always thrown it out.
>
> >> Some of you have mentioned uses for milk at this stage. I have almost a
> >> half
> >> gallon now. It worked fine in my coffee this morning but will turn
> >> tomorrow
> >> or the next day. I used two cups today to make some "Au Gratin" potatoes
> >> and I know that will be fine.
>
> >> Once it turns though (congeals in my coffee), is there something else I
> >> can
> >> use it for? Or just throw it out like I've always done?
>
> >> Gary
>
> > Hi, I'm a late entry here on this thread....
>
> > Gary, having some idea of how much of the gallon of milk that you need and
> > an average of how much is usually left over at the end of the week, how
> > about making up a small quantity of home made Yoghurt when first
> > bought...You then have another use for the milk, and the yoghurt has a
> > much longer life than the milk has...Only a thought!
> > Bigbazza (Barry) Oz
>
> > "Happiness is never an accident. It is the prize we get when we choose
> > wisely from life's great stores"
This is what I do: Heat a quart or more of milk so it is quite hot to
the touch, take off the stove and pour it into a container of your
choice, let cool to lukewarm, stir in a tablespoon (or a blob) of
yogurt and put the bowl into the oven. If you have a gas stove, the
pilot light will do fine, if you have an electric oven, leave the oven
light on. The next morning, you will have lovely yogurt. Stir and
refrigerate the yogurt and, as someone said, it does have a long shelf
life. I don't know how long because we eat it up pretty quickly. Save
some from this batch to use for your next yogurt batch.
So easy and so good; have fun!
Julie in SFBA