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pj...@tesco.net

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Jun 17, 2008, 8:10:15 AM6/17/08
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Hi!

I want to cook (heat) baked beans on a BBQ but my wife suggests I
don't use her best pan!

Seems fair I guess but what to cook them in?

I was wondering, could I simply open the tin, take off the paper
wrapper and put it straight onto the heating surface of the BBQ?

Would the tin ooze noxious gases and stuff into the beans - or would
this work fine?

Failing the tin, what about tin foil?

Any suggestions/advice much appreciated

Phisherman

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Jun 17, 2008, 10:18:57 AM6/17/08
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An iron skillet (with or without a lid) and an oven mitt.

Jerry Avins

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Jun 17, 2008, 10:32:41 AM6/17/08
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Nowadays, many (most?) cans aren't plated with tin, but coated with some
sort of varnish. I doubt if it becomes noxious when heated, but I
imagine it can decompose to some extent if the temperature is high
enough. Still, if the beans aren't badly burnt, it can't get all that hot.

Heating in the can on the barbecue won't be easy because there's not
enough surface facing the heat. You need a hole to let the can vent, so
you can't set it on its side and keep rolling it like a frankfurter.

How about the second-best pan, one you can scrub the soot of without
fear of damaging it? I'd use a cast-iron skillet that I had a cover to fit.

Jerry
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pj...@tesco.net

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Jun 17, 2008, 11:15:26 AM6/17/08
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Jerry, Phisherman,
Thanks for your advice/help but I needed to be more precise about my
question.

I want to take a disposable BBQ, sausages, beef burgers, rolls, beans
etc on a hike.
At the destination the people with me will consume everything
Anything left will be recycled/disposed of at the destination
This will leave me room to bring things purchased/picked-up at the
destination.
An iron skillet or second best pan will be heavy and take up 'return'
space.

I will send an e-mail to Heinz and ask them if their cans can be used
for cooking in

and, if not, I will take some tin foil and fashion a 'skillet' out of
that.

Thanks again!

Jerry Avins

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Jun 17, 2008, 11:29:10 AM6/17/08
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Heavy-duty aluminum-foil serving dishes, the kind you see at some
catered affairs, should serve well. Check the Dollar Store and the
supermarket. Keep all of the bottom covered with beans to be sure that
even a hot fire won't burn through. I used to heat beans for camping
(all cans were lined with tin then) by standing the can on coals and
heaping coals around it. *Remember to pierce the lid!*

Val

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Jun 17, 2008, 11:41:07 AM6/17/08
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<pj...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> I was wondering, could I simply open the tin, take off the paper
> wrapper and put it straight onto the heating surface of the BBQ?
>

Yes, you can take off the wrapper, open the can, remove the top...VOILA!
cooking vessel!.... and then better than putting the can on the BBQ grate
(but that will work) you can nestle it into the coals. We've done this
numerous times over the years and all are alive to tell about it. My son and
his college buddies used to open cans of baked beans (also soup and
Spaghetti-Os), put it directly on the stove burner to heat, held it using a
folded towel and then ate from the can...saved on dishes and clean up. Must
be a guy thing, but they weren't engineering students either. Just make
sure you have something to safely handle the hot can. My old hunting buddies
(who never bothered to remove the paper label) used vice grips, this tool
facilitated pouring the beans onto plates...and also onto thumbs, wrists,
laps, etc. Have fun.

Val


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Jerry Avins

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Jun 17, 2008, 11:08:11 PM6/17/08
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Gigglz wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:45:30 -0400, Shawn Hirn <sr...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <k1bg54pfkd1ubpo2c...@4ax.com>,
>> Gigglz <Fre...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i use a pan, but first i coat the outside of it with dishwashing
>>> detergent. any smoke stain comes right off afterwards. i learned
>>> that from my camping days :-)
>
>
>> I do the same. I have also cooked canned vegetables over coals in the
>> can, but the tin gives the food an off flavor. Bleh!
>
> yeah, i bet it would! :-\

The inside of a tin can is shiny. A farnished can is white or copper
colored.

Jerry
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pj...@tesco.net

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Jun 26, 2008, 8:59:27 AM6/26/08
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Thanks for all the advice.

Jerry, I like the idea of the aluminium trays - I think I may use
that!
Val, I like the reassurance but see below....

I sent an e-mail to Heinz and got:
Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding our Baked Beans in
Tomato Sauce.
Unfortunately we cannot advised to cook the beans in the can. We
recommend that you follow the instructions printed on the label.
We hope the above information is helpful.

I reasked them why and got:
Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding our Baked Beans in
Tomato Sauce.
We cannot advised that you cook Beans on the BBQ as this would be
a Health and Safety hazard as the can would become extremely hot.
We hope the above information is helpful.

I assured them that I would not blame them if I burned myself and
finally got:
Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding our Baked Beans in
Tomato Sauce.
A small experiment was conducted in the lab using a 400g can and a
hot plate. The lacquer from the can end was removed both pr-heat and
during the cooking. The beans were also over cooked and stuck to the
can end.
Although the lacquer used on the can ends are Food Approved they
are not approved for eating. Therefore we would not recommend that
the food to be cooked in the can.
We hope the above information is helpful.

I asked them what the lacquer was but, as yet, no response :-(

So, my solution is:
Empty the beans into a plastic bag (so no need to carry the tin)
Cook the beans in an aluminium tray

Thanks for the suggestions and advice.

Jerry Avins

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Jun 26, 2008, 9:54:44 AM6/26/08
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Unfortunately, lacquer being much cheaper than tin and much easier to
apply, there are very few "tin" cans any more. As for leaving the can at
home, remember that the can is hermetically sealed and sterile. The
beans might begin to turn overnight if unrefrigerated and out of the can.

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