Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
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From Acharya S
7-26-9
Talmudic Quotes
The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah
himself asks the opinions of earthly rabbis when there are difficult
affairs in heaven.
Rabbi Menachen, Comments for the Fifth Book
Jehovah himself in heaven studies the Talmud, standing: he has such
respect for that book.
Tractate Mechilla/Me'ilah
R. Johanan said: A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death, for
it is written, Moses commanded us a law for an inheritance; it is our
inheritance, not theirs. Then why is this not included in the Noachian
laws? -- On the reading morasha [an inheritance] he steals it; on the
reading me'orasah [betrothed], he is guilty as one who violates a
betrothed maiden, who is stoned. An objection is raised: R. Meir used
to say. Whence do we know that even a heathen who studies the Torah is
as a High Priest? From the verse, [Ye shall therefore keep my
statutes, and my judgments:] which, if man do, he shall live in them.
Priests, Levites, and Israelites are not mentioned, but men: hence
thou mayest learn that even a heathen who studies the Torah is as a
High Priest! -- That refers to their own seven laws.
Sanhedrin 59a
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would
be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we
teach about them, they would kill us openly.
Libbre David 37
A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our
books contain anything against them.
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17
We beg Thee, O Lord, indict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in
Thee, and not calling on Thy name. Let down Thy wrath on them and
inflict them with Thy wrath. Drive them away in Thy wrath and crush
them into pieces. Take away, O Lord, all bone from them. In a moment
indict all disbelievers. Destroy in a moment all foes of Thy nation.
Draw out with the root, disperse and ruin unworthy nations. Destroy
them! Destroy them immediately, in this very moment!
Prayer said on the eve of Passover (Pranajtis: Christianus in Talmudae
Judeorum, quotations from: Synagoga Judaica)
The Feast of Tabernacles is the period when Israel triumphs over the
other people of the world. That is why during this feast we seize the
loulab and carry it as a trophy to show that we have conquered all
other peoples, known as "populace"...
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b
When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D
Resh Lakish said: He who is observant of fringes will be privileged to
be served by two thousand eight hundred slaves, for it is said, Thus
saith the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten
men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations shall
even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go
with you, etc.
Mas. Shabbath 31b
On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging
term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle.
Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII
When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the
same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the
Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to
our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full
right to seize it.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156
If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to
the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him
off the face of the earth.
Choschen Hamm 388, 15
Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He,
has chosen from amongst the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: "Their
work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh; they
will all perish when God visits them in His wrath." At the moment when
the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the
world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: "The Lord
alone will appear great on that day!...
Zohar, Vayshlah 177b
That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all
the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.
That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which
consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An
orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards
people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable
to himself or to Jews in general.
A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be
perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348
R. Hanina said: If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death; for
it is written, And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw
that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian. [Ex. 2:12] R. Hanina also
said: He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus
assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man
[i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One.
Sanhedrin 58b
[In other words, if a non-Jew kills a Jew, the non-Jew can be killed.
Punching an Israelite is akin to assaulting God. (But killing a non-
Jew is NOT like assaulting God.]
If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed
a goy he is not responsible.
Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5
Has it not been taught: "With respect to robbery -- if one stole or
robbed or [seized] a beautiful woman, or [committed] similar offences,
if [these were perpetrated] by one Cuthean ["Cuthean" or "Samaritan" =
goy/gentile/heathen/non-Jew] against another, [the theft, etc.] must
not be kept, and likewise [the theft] of an Israelite by a Cuthean,
but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained?" But if robbery
is a capital offence, should not the Tanna have taught: He incurs a
penalty? -- Because the second clause wishes to state, "but that of a
Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained," therefore the former clause
reads, "[theft of an Israelite by a Cuthean] must not be kept." But
where a penalty is incurred, it is explicitly stated, for the
commencing clause teaches: "For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a
Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but
of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty?"
Sanhedrin 57a
[Translation: A Jew may rob a Goy, but a Goy may not rob a Jew. If a
Goy murders another Goy or a Jew, he should be killed, but a Jew will
not be incur the death penalty for killing a non-Jew.]
Kill the Goyim by any means possible.
Choshen Ha'mishpat 425:50
Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious [non-Jews] is as
acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.
Yalkut 245c
Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.
Zohar, Shemoth
Tob shebbe goyyim harog - Even the best of the Goyim (Gentiles) should
be killed.
Soferim 15, Rule 10
[NB: Hoffman says, "This passage is not from the Soncino edition but
is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the
1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled
by Isidore Singer, under the entry, 'Gentile,' (p. 617)." Another
source says this passage is at Avodah Zara 26b. We have not been able
to verify any of these references. It does not seem to be at Avodah
Zara 26b of the Soncino edition.]
What is [the meaning of] Mount Sinai? The mountain whereon there
descended hostility [sin'ah ] toward idolaters [non-Jews].
Shabbath 89a
The same has been taught as follows: If the ox of an Israelite gores
an ox of a Canaanite [non-Jew] there is no liability, but if an ox of
a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite... the payment is to be in
full, as it is said: He stood and measured the earth, he beheld and
drove asunder the nations [Gentiles], and again, He shined forth from
Mount Paran...implying that from Paran he exposed their money to
Israel.
Baba Kama 38a
[Trans: The property of the Israelite is more valuable than that of
the Gentile. Mount Paran refers to Deut. 33:2, where God offered the
law to the nations (Gentiles), who rejected it. The money of the
Gentiles is available to the Israelites.]
ONE SHOULD NOT PLACE CATTLE IN HEATHENS' INNS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
SUSPECTED OF IMMORAL PRACTICE WITH THEM. A WOMAN SHOULD NOT BE ALONE
WITH THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SUSPECTED OF LEWDNESS, NOR SHOULD A MAN BE
ALONE WITH THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SUSPECTED OF SHEDDING BLOOD. . .
Why then should we not leave female animals alone with female
heathens? -- Said Mar 'Ukba b. Hama: Because heathens frequent their
neighbours' wives, and should one by chance not find her in, and find
the cattle there, he might use it immorally. You may also say that
even if he should find her in he might use the animal, as a Master has
said: Heathens prefer the cattle of Israelites to their own wives, for
R. Johanan said: When the serpent came unto Eve he infused filthy lust
into her.
Avodah Zarah 22a-b
He who pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not
guilty; if over heathens or the dead, he is not guilty. The law
relating to cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: Upon the
flesh of man [adam] shall it not be poured; and cattle and vessels are
not man. Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is
exempt, since after death one is called corpse and not man. But why is
one exempt in the case of heathens; are they not in the category of
adam?-No, it is written: And ye my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are
adam [man]: Ye are called adam but heathens are not called 'adam. But
is it not written: And the persons [adam] were sixteen thousand? --
Because it is used in opposition to cattle. But is it not written: And
should I not have pity on Nineveh [that great city, wherein are more
than six score thousand persons [adam]?--This too is used in
opposition to cattle.
Mas. K'rithoth 6b
[This passage refers to anointing with oil. "Heathens," i.e.,
Gentiles, are not "adam" or man but are equated with cattle]
An objection was raised: And the persons were sixteen thousand!--This
is due to [the mention of] cattle. Wherein are more than six-score
thousand persons that cannot discern between their right and their
left hand!--This is due [to the mention of] cattle.
Mas. Yevamoth 61b
[Again non-Jews are referred to as "cattle."]
All Israelites will have a part in the future world... The Goyim, at
the end of the world will be handed over to the angel Duma and sent
down to hell.
Zohar, Shemoth, Toldoth Noah, Lekh-Lekha
Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not
have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in
human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L
Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy is permitted to
manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by
human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as
human beings.
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39
A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he
treats a piece of meat.
Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348
A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.
Gad. Shas. 2:2
A boy-goy after nine years and one day old, and a girl after three
years and one day old, are considered filthy.
Pereferkowicz, Talmud t.v., p. 11
Raba stated: With reference to the Rabbinical statement that [legally]
an Egyptian [Gentile] has no father, it must not be imagined that this
is due to [the Egyptians'] excessive indulgence in carnal
gratification, owing to which it is not known [who the father was],
but that if this were known it is to be taken into consideration; but
[the fact is] that even if this is known it is not taken into
consideration.... Thus it may be inferred that the All Merciful
declared their children to be legally fatherless, for [so indeed it is
also] written, Whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue
is like the issue of horses.
Yevamoth 98a
[Trans.: A non-Jew is "legally fatherless," regardless of whether or
not the father is known. Gentile children are essentially asses and
horses, i.e., animals.]
[The daughters of the heathens] should be considered as in the state
of <http://jewish.com/askarabbi/askarabbi/askr4942.htm>niddah
[separation?] from their cradle...
Avodah Zarah 36b
They decreed in connection with a heathen child that it should cause
defilement by seminal emission so that an Israelite child should not
become accustomed to commit pederasty with him.... It is therefore to
be concluded that a heathen girl [communicates defilement] from the
age of three years and one day, for inasmuch as she is then capable of
the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious!
Avodah Zarah 36b-37a
R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may
be acquired in marriage by coition [intercourse], and if her deceased
husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of
adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him
who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon
which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted
with gonorrhoea].
Sanhedrin 55b
Rab said: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed
as pederasty with a child above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a
child below three years is not treated as with a child above that.24
(24) I.e., Rab makes nine years the minimum; but if one committed
sodomy with a child of lesser age, no guilt is incurred. Samuel makes
three the minimum.
Sanhedrin 54b
Raba said. It means this: When a grown-up man has intercourse with a
little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this [three
years old], it is as if one puts the finger into the eye; but when a
small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman he makes her as 'a
girl who is injured by a piece of wood.'...
Kethuboth 11b
[This debate concerns whether or not someone is a virgin. Virginity is
prized above all, such that it is believed that a girl under the age
of three will regain her virginity, even if a man has had intercourse
with her. (Fn. 7 says, in regard to putting "the finger into the eye":
"I.e., tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come
back to the little girl under three years.") Since virginity is prized
above all, one could assume that this conclusion has allowed grown men
to have sex with little girls with immunity. A grown-up woman is not
deflowered by having sex with a small boy, however, since he is only
like a "piece of wood."]
It was taught: R. Judah used to say, A man is bound to say the
following three blessings daily: "[Blessed art thou...] who hast not
made me a heathen," ".... who hast not made me a woman"; and "... who
hast not made me a brutish man." R. Aha b. Jacob once overhead his son
saying "[Blessed art thou...] who hast not made me a brutish man,"
whereupon he said to him, "And this too!" Said the other, "Then what
blessing should I say instead?" [He replied,]...h who hast not made me
a slave." And is not that the same as a woman? - a slave is more
contemptible.
Menachoth 43b-44a
[A "prayer" or "benediction" to be said by a Jewish man every day:
"Thank God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave."]
Do not save Goyim in danger of death.
Show no mercy to the Goyim.
Hilkkoth Akum X1
A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has
touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean.
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122
And he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be
valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every
vow which I may make in the future shall be null.1 [HIS VOWS ARE THEN
INVALID,] PROVIDING THAT HE REMEMBERS THIS AT THE TIME OF THE VOW.
Nedarim 23b
[Essentially the "Kol Nidre" prayer said every year at Yom Kippur. Fn.
1 says: "This may have provided a support for the custom of reciting
Kol Nidre (a formula for dispensation of vows) prior to the Evening
Service of the Day of Atonement (Ran.). The context makes it perfectly
obvious that only vows, where the maker abjures benefit from aught, or
imposes an interdict of his own property upon his neighbour, are
referred to. Though the beginning of the year (New Year) is mentioned
here, the Day of Atonement was probably chosen on account of its great
solemnity. But Kol Nidre as part of the ritual is later than the
Talmud, and, as seen from the following statement about R. Huna h.
Hinena, the law of revocation in advance was not made public."]
vtcapo
Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
RT
PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
going to look this up myself. Anyone......
BradGuth
>
> Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
>
> RT
> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
Whatever, it seems our bipolar rabbi Saul doesn't care either way, any
more so than Hitler or GW Bush and Dick Cheney ever cared about the
collateral damage and carnage of the mostly innocent.
Zionists via DARPA have been documented as having irradiated 100,000
dark-skinned Jewish kids in an effort to exterminate that Jewish
species, each with a 35,000 fold X-ray dosage, and the likes of our
resident rabbi Saul could care less, perhaps mostly because they never
bother to police their own kind.
~ BG
Patrick Keenan
news:c3404610-beb5-41f2...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
=================
It isn't accurate, as you would readily learn if you bothered to check with
Google.
For example, the reference to "Libbre David 37" is to a non-existent book.
There is no such book in either the Talmud or Torah. The same applies to
later references to "Hadarine" and "Gad. Shas 2.2" which share non-existence
with "Libbre David 37".
You could start looking at places like this:
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/Response1.html
"Warhol" is simply promoting old and feeble attempts to smear Jews,
something that "Warhol" is ready to accept and promote no matter how much of
an obvious lie it is.
As to "the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud" - you should
probably find out what the Talmud actually is, first.
Here's a hint: it isn't scripture. It's a set of discussions on what
scripture and law mean and how they apply to things that happen in life.
But to answer your question directrly, the Soncino Talmud is common, and
costs on CD around US$300.
Not to promote any particular reseller, but to show you what it is:
http://www.jewishsoftware.com/products/Soncino_English_Tanach__Talmud_1215.asp?bhcd2=1248634105
Hope this helps.
-pk
JMD Morgan
Talmudic Quotes
Tractate Mechilla/Me'ilah
Sanhedrin 59a
Libbre David 37
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D
Mas. Shabbath 31b
Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII
Choschen Hamm 388, 15
Zohar, Vayshlah 177b
Yalkut 245c
Zohar, Shemoth
Shabbath 89a
Avodah Zarah 22a-b
[adam] shall it not be poured; and cattle and vessels are not man. Also
Freedom Man
Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.
"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig
"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow
"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins
"Cult today, religion tomorrow."
The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org
BradGuth
But, taking away religion is also taking away our wartime economy.
What on Earth is going to replace the extent of unpoliced greed and
the for-profit Caste system of what mainstream religion represents?
(more government along with its favored special-interest and/or flat
out corrupt politics?)
You'd think a better educated public (especially in physics, science
and truthful history) and otherwise a fair exchange work environment
that's reasonably safe would function like a charm. Obviously that's
not how it works on Earth, whereas telling lies and taking advantage
of others is where all the good action and profit is to behold.
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
Patrick Keenan
"JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
news:A5OdnSzcMc5zNPHX...@giganews.com...
> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
Except that much of what you present isn't either quotes or factual, as can
be easily demonstrated.
You *could* have checked for yourself - perhaps you did, and decided to post
falsehoods anyway.
You seem to spend a lot of time promoting a specific religion.
Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
-pk
<snippage>
dsharavi
> > Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
> > From Acharya S
Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
tripe.
> > Rabbi Menachen, Comments for the Fifth Book
No "Rabbi Menachen" ever wrote a commentary for the "Fifth Book",
whatever that may be.
> > Tractate Mechilla/Me'ilah
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Sanhedrin 59a
> > To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would
> > be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we
> > teach about them, they would kill us openly.
Sanhedrin 59a doesn't say this.
>
> > Libbre David 37
>
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D
>
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Mas. Shabbath 31b
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Choschen Hamm 388, 15
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Zohar, Vayshlah 177b
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Choshen Ha'mishpat 425:50
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Yalkut 245c
There is no such tractate in the Talmud.
> > Soferim 15, Rule 10
There is no such tractate in the Talmud. But at least we now have a
clue who had a hand in fabricating/promulgating this mess:
> > [NB: Hoffman
On Jul 26, 10:33 am, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
> RT
What "Rabbi Saul"? Warthog, who posted this tripe, isn't a rabbi. It
would be surprising to learn that he made it through high school.
> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
I can't say whether these are the best, but FWTW, see:
The Talmud
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
Soncino English Translation of the Babylonian Talmud
http://wilkerson.110mb.com/index.htm
Or check your local library for a copy of the Talmud.
For refutations of faked Talmud "quotes", see:
The Talmud Exposed
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
HTH
Deborah
Warhol
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
>
> =================
>
> It isn't accurate, as you would readily learn if you bothered to check with
> Google.
>
>
> -pk
The Talmud is one of the most sickening documents ever written.
It is all pornography, blood filled, lots of stupidity, hatred of all.
It is so sick if you made copies and handed them out
they would jail you and in court "the truth is no defense"
The Truth About the Satanic Inspired Talmud
A Documented Exposé of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature
By Warrant of John 18:37, Galatians 4:16
Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba
Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his
daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a
lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino
edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it
is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with
many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three
or thirty-four years old."
Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that
Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they
need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement, complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June 20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event that denials are later issued and the statement itself
suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days
before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death
because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to
idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or
condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head.
Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a
bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he
is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and
this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard
and the son of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name
of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion, p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is
a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE
period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which
is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox
Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus'
and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as
"Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak,
Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March
23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that
the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.On one of his
whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular
prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a
bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to her,
crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the
prostitute farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as
this gas will never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to
heaven."
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the
rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor
toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited
long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is
with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should
"take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he
can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it
loosens the limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass
between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm
trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or
sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following
prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman
or a slave.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud:
Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in
the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children
were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient
demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire
world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four
billion Jews).
A Revealing Admission
Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine
stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the
fact that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching
wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that
the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the
thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews.
(Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).
Pharisaic Rituals
Erubin 21b. "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my
hands."
"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it
suffice for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of
the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die
than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is
the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
Genocide Advocated by the Talmud
Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi
Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the
gentiles should all be killed").
This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as
quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls
and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being
generally substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the
heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of
Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination
of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians,
including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein
was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS
News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the
Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and
Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit
violence against goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News,
Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June
6, 1989, p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human
The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human
animals, and specifically dehumanizes Gentiles as not being
descendants of Adam. Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate
to this topic.
Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have taught: He
who pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty;
if over gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law
relating to cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the
flesh of man (Adam), shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and
cattle and vessels are not man (Adam).
"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt,
since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why
is one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the
category of man (Adam)? No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep
of my pasture, are man" (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man
(Adam) but gentiles (goyim) are not called man (Adam)."
In the preceding passage, the rabbis are discussing the portion of the
Mosaic law which forbids applying the holy oil to men.
The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to
Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of
Adam).
Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so did
R. Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim) do
not impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over
a grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture,
are men (Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the
idolaters are not called men (Adam)."
The Old Testament Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or
the grave of a human imparts uncleanness to those who touch it. But
the Talmud teaches that if a Jew touches the grave of a Gentile, the
Jew is not rendered unclean, since Gentiles are not human (not of
Adam).
From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard.
When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the
Mosaic law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only
prohibits Jews from coming into contact with the graves of humans
(Adamites), and he was standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has
been taught by Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim]
do not defile. For it is written, 'And ye my flock, the flock of my
pastures, are men (Adam)' (Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are designated men
(Adam)."
Ezekiel 34:31 is the alleged Biblical proof text repeatedly cited in
the preceding three Talmud passages. But Ezekiel 34:31 does not in
fact support the Talmudic notion that only Israelites are human. What
these rabbinical, anti-Gentile racists and ideologues have done in
asserting the preceding absurdities about Gentiles is distort an Old
Testament passage in order to justify their bigotry.
In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-
human status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish
man) who reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death,
since revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression
of Judaism.
The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-text"
is specious, since the passage does not prove that Gentiles are
animals. The passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had
large genital organs and copious emissions. This does not in any way
prove or even connote that the Egyptians being referred to in the
Bible were considered animals. Once again, the Talmud has falsified
the Bible by means of distorted interpretation.
Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this racist
fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a,
Yebamoth 98a. Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies
God's approval only to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-
shas, Cracow, 1894).
Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination
We will now examine the post-Talmudic commentator Rambam (Moses
Maimonides). This revered "sage" taught that Christians should be
exterminated. He has the highest stature in Judaism:
"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher
in Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the
Rambam, after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben
Maimon, "Our Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles,
edited by Aryeh Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of
America,, p. 3].
Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's
lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and
Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration" of
the Talmud:
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn,
New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184:
"Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or
drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life
is in danger, we should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim
1981 edition of Mishnah Torah states this as well.
Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews
not to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the
Talmudic duty of Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who
deny the Talmud. Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:
"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish
traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the
pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway
the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students,
and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked
rot."
The Jewish publisher's commentary accompanying the preceding statement
of Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural:
minnim).
The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined as
those Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the
written law (i.e. the Old Testament).
According to Maimonides' Principles, p. 5, Maimonides "spent twelve
years extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and arranging
them all into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed in
1180, and was called Mishnah Torah, or "Code of the Torah."
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles
are not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness
by carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey
uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse
uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a
corpse he is as one who did not touch it.
"To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or
overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to
any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are
susceptible to any uncleanness." (The Code of Maimonides, vol. 10,
translated by Herbert Danby, Yale University Press, New Haven, 1954,
pp. 8-9).
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: "A Jew who killed a
righteous gentile is not executed in a court of law. It says in Exodus
21:14, 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man
deliberately, take him away from the altar and put him to death.' But
a gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not
executed for killing an unrighteous gentile."
The Schindler's List Quote
The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a
restricts the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot Ha-
shas), notes that some Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:
"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he
had destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a
single human being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."
However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic
words of the original Talmud.
In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the
authentic text of the Talmud and thus, for example, this universalist
version which Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List
attributed to the Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on
posters and in advertisements), is a hoax and constitutes propaganda
intended to give a humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its
essence, racist and chauvinist hate literature.
In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever
preserves a single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an
entire world" (emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions
only the saving of Jewish lives.
Jewish Deception and Dissimulation
The response of the orthodox rabbis to documentation regarding the
racism and hatred in their sacred texts is simply to brazenly lie, in
keeping with the Talmud's Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may
use lies ("subterfuge") to circumvent a Gentile.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a multi-million dollar rabbinical
propaganda center dispatched Rabbi Daniel Landes in 1995 to deny that
the Talmud dehumanizes non-Jews. "This is utter rot," he said. His
proof? Why, his word, of course.
Lying to "circumvent a Gentile" has a long patrimony in Judaism. Take
for example the 13th century Talmud debate in Paris between Nicholas
of Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity, whom Hyam Maccoby admits
had "a good knowledge of the Talmud" ( "The Jews on Trial," p. 26) and
Rabbi Yehiel. Yehiel was not under threat of death, bodily injury,
imprisonment or fine. Yet he brazenly lied during the course of the
debate.
When asked by Donin whether there were attacks on Jesus in the Talmud,
Yehiel denied that there were any. Donin, a Hebrew and Aramaic
scholar, knew this to be false. Hyam Maccoby, a 20th century Jewish
commentator on the debate, defends Rabbi Yehiel's lying in this way:
"The question may be asked, however, whether Yehiel really believed
that Jesus was not mentioned in the Talmud, or whether he put this
forward as an ingenious ploy in the desperate situation in which he
found himself...It would certainly have been pardonable of the rabbi
to attempt some condonation in which he did not fully believe, to
prevent such tyrannical proceedings by one religious culture against
another." ( Maccoby, "The Jews on Trial," p. 28).
This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is
justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured
("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish
holy books by Christian investigators is characterized as a
"tyrannical proceeding."
In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom
Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning
how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the
authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in
the Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions
which they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption.
Rabbi Marx states that in the version of Maimonides' teachings
published for public consumption, Maimonides is made to say that
whoever kills a human being transgresses the law.
But, Rabbi Marx points out "...this only reflects the censured and
amended printed text, whereas the original manuscripts have it only as
'whoever kills an Israelite."(Tikkun: A Bi-Monthly Jewish Critique May-
June, 1994).
The Jewish book, Hesronot Ha-shas ("that which is removed from the
Talmud"), is important in this regard. (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship of Hebrew Books p. 59).
Hesronot Ha-shas was reprinted in 1989 by Sinai Publishing of Tel-
Aviv. Hesronot Ha-shas is valuable because it lists both the original
Talmud texts that were later changed or omitted, and the falsified
texts cited for Gentile consumption as authentic.
Historian William Popper states: "It was not always that long
passages...were censored...but often single words alone were
omitted...Often, in these cases, another method of correction was used
in place of omission--substitution." (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship of Hebrew Books pp. 58-59).
For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the
Talmud sometimes render the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any
number of disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Kushite, Egyptian,
idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-
Jews). Footnotes for certain passages in the Soncino Talmud
translation state: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the
original goy..."
The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud
passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are
the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
In 1994, the 80 year old Lady Jane Birdwood was arrested and
prosecuted in a criminal court in London, England for the "crime" of
publishing in her pamphlet, The Longest Hatred, the truthful statement
that the Talmud contains anti-Gentile and anti-Christian passages.
(She was accused of violating the Public Order Act of 1986).
In the course of her Orwellian thought-crime trial, which was ignored
by the U.S. media, a rabbi was called as a prosecution witness. The
rabbi proceeded to flatly deny that the Talmud contained anti-Gentile
or anti-Christian passages and on the basis of the rabbi's "prestige,"
this elderly and ailing woman was sentenced to three months in jail
and fined the equivalent of $1,000.
"Judeo-Christian" Response to the Talmud
Neither the modern popes or the modern heads of Protestantism, have
ever insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the
racism in the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles
expressed within it. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have
urged the followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers
of the Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that these Catholic and
Protestant leaders are the worst betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth
today. (Cf. Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke
3:8-9; Rev. 3:9).
Non-Jews are "Supernal Refuse"
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are
regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the
founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are
some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its
mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them
concerns Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for
the goyim.
"...medieval Jewish theologians--most notably the poet and philosopher
Judah Ha-Levi in twelfth-century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in
sixteenth-century Prague--sought to define the Jewish distinction
racially rather than spiritually...this...view, according to which
there is something innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated
in its most extreme form by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The founder of
Lubavitcher Hasidism taught that there is a difference of essence
between the souls of Jews and the souls of gentiles, that only in the
Jewish soul does there reside a spark of divine vitality.
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a
completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with
no redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's
teachings are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material
abundance derives from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive
from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the
pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good,
all gentiles innately evil.
"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently
evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews,
has not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New
Republic, May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The
Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady (Northvale, New Jersey, Jason
Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts
"Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has
provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint
Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the
establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by
disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel
Schneerson.
Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by
Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on
Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that
purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not
subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of
Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald
J. Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on
Maimonides [Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].
These courts are to be convened allegedly under the "Noahide
Laws" (proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant
with Noah). The U.S. presidents and Congress urged the adoption of the
"Noahide" Laws as interpreted by Chabad-Lubavitch Grand Rabbi
Schneerson.
Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal
expert, has compared this Public law 102-14 to the "first rays of
dawn" which "evidence the rising of a still unseen sun."
The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world
order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.
It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the
Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to "Noahide law," but the
Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of
falsification that constitutes the Talmud.
Under the Talmud's counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is
forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is
condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest
are permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code.
(Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).
Furthermore, all non-Jews would have the legal status of ger toshav
("resident alien," cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and
Legend [London: Thames and Hudson, 1991], p. 148), even in their own
land; as for example in occupied Palestine where newly arrived Khazars
from Russia have an automatic right to housing and citizenship, while
two million Palestinian refugees who either fled or were expelled by
the Israelis, are forbidden the right of return.
Resident alien status has been clearly delineated in scholarly
articles in leading Jewish publications. For example, Hebrew
University Professor Mordechai Nisan, basing his exposition on
Maimonides, stated that a non-Jew permitted to reside in a land ruled
by Jewish law "must accept paying a tax and suffering the humiliation
of servitude."
If Gentiles refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals
their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare
against their very presence. [Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official
publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp.
151-156].
At a symposium ("Is Autonomy for Resident Aliens Feasible?") organized
by Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Chief
Rabbi Shlomo Goren repeated the Talmudic teaching on resident aliens:
that Judaism forbids "granting any national rights" to them. He ruled
that such "Autonomy is tantamount to a denial of the Jewish
religion." (Nadav Shraggai, Ha'aretz, Oct. 14, 1992).
American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum"
in Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual
establishment of a Jewish state religion in the U.S. This "Holocaust
museum" excludes any reference to holocausts perpetrated by Jewish
Communists against Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe, from 1917
onward.
The focus of the museum is almost entirely on Jewish suffering.
Holocausts perpetrated by Israelis against Arabs in Lebanon and
Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the
U.S. "Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a
repository of objective historical information.
It is through the rapid emergence of this ostensibly secular but all-
pervasive "Holocaustianity" -- whereby the religion of Judaism is
gaining enormous power and influence as mankind's supreme ethos and
the creed of God's Holy People.
Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed
Israeli "Torah scholars" have ruled that:
"The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in
the World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life by
virtue of observing their religion...And while the Christians do
generally accept the Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them
(those who accept the so-called divinity of Jesus) are idolaters
according to the Torah, punishable by death, and certainly will not
enjoy the World to Come."
--Israeli Mechon-Mamre website, June 26, 2000; 12 Hayyim Vital St.,
Jerusalem, Occupied Palestine. ("Mechon Mamre is a small group of
Torah scholars in Israel...").
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Israeli "Mechon-Mamre Torah Scholars," as it
appeared on their website at http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/gentiles.htm
on June 26, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the
statement itself suppressed].
Jewish Superstitions
It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is
known as the Babylonian Talmud. As Christians misled by their
Judaizing preachers and popes are increasingly consulting Jewish
rabbinical sources for a "pure" understanding of the Old Testament,
they are unknowingly consulting the occult.
Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of Babylon,
from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism
ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism's other sacred book, the Kabbalah,
is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria,
necromancy and demonology.
The photograph on the cover of this publication's hard copy version
shows an orthodox Jew performing a ritual to transfer his sins to the
chicken he is waving over his head. This is pernicious superstition.
Furthermore, the Israeli "Star of David," is actually nothing of the
kind, but rather an occult hexagram, a yantra of the androgyne, which
became associated with the Khazars in 14th century Bohemia. (The
misnamed "state of Israel" was founded in 1948 in an alliance between
Jewish Communists and atheistic Zionists, with crucial U.N.
recognition provided by Soviet Communist dictator Joseph Stalin).
Christians might find it eye-opening to visit a Hasidic Jewish area
during "Purim" and observe the grotesque, Halloween-like cavorting.
Though the Purim festival uses the Book of Esther as its supposed
proof-text, in practice the Jewish celebration of Purim is little more
than a Bacchanal (cf. "Superstitions said legacy from Jewish
ancestors," Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 16, 1989, p. 58).
Orthodox rabbis place curses, cast spells and imagine they have powers
greater than God, derived from their study of the Sefer Yezriah, (a
book of Kabbalistic magic). Christians are trafficking in Babylonian
paganism when they defer to the rabbis of Judaism.
Sodomy in the synagogue
From a report published in the Hebrew language Israeli newspaper
Ha'aretz
"...for many years, (Talmud scribe) Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel...sodomized
ultra-Orthodox boys. The greatest rabbis knew - and did nothing...
"At the age of 11, Moisheleh, the strongest fellow in the talmud torah
(school for ultra-Orthodox boys), went up to Shaiya Brizel and said to
him: 'Kid, I want you know that your father is not the holy man you
think he is. He is a homo.' ...Brizel was a scion of the Brizel
family, which founded ...the mysterious organization that imposes
moral order on the ultra-Orthodox ghetto...
"Had the father, Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel ...contented himself with
homosexual relations with adults, it is reasonable to suppose that we
would never have heard his son's story.
"However, in his book, The Silence of the Ultra-Orthodox, published a
few weeks ago, the son claims that for decades his father ...sodomized
yeshiva students. He committed the act in empty synagogues during the
hours between prayers and in other places.
"The greatest of the ultra-Orthodox rabbis...like Rabbi Landau and the
halachic sage Shmuel Halevi Hausner of Bnei Brak, knew and kept
silent. The father was a Hasid heart and soul, and went to a number of
rebbes.... the twin brother of the rebbe from Rehovot, the Rebbe of
Kretschnif in Kiryat Gat, was happy to accept the father among his
followers. Ultimately, claims Brizel, it was not easy for the Rebbe
from Kiryat Gat to be picky when he could win such a respected
adherent.
"...The proud father with the look of an honored rebbe, who observed
all the commandments from the slightest to the most important, used to
pray at a certain yeshiva with the young boys. There, claims Shaiya
Brizel, he hunted his victims. When the head of the yeshiva discovered
the true reason that the respected Torah scribe was praying fervently
at his yeshiva, he did not contact the police...
"Before the publication of his book, Shaiya Brizel met with the
yeshiva head. 'You are right that we covered up for him,' admitted the
man. 'I and a few other rabbis...I was busy trying to calm things down
and hushing up the affair so that it would not get publicized.'
"(The son) published the book using real names. His entire family and
almost all the rabbis appear under their own names. Only the names of
some of the localities and the head of the yeshiva are disguised. To
protect himself from a legal point of view, Brizel held a series of
conversations with members of his family and rabbis, in which he
demanded explanations of why they had covered up for his father's
misbehavior. He secretly recorded all these conversations, even with
his mother.
"If I had written without the names it would have been fiction and
this certainly did not suit me," he explained. 'I wanted things to
change, for ultra-Orthodox society to know that it can attempt to hide
things and be hidden, but even if it takes 30 years, a Golem will
always rise up against its creator and reveal everything. In this
case, I was the Golem.'
"When Rachel Brizel, the daughter of a good Bnei Brak family, married
an arranged match from the glorious Brizel family, she had no idea
that she was destroying her own life. After six months, she caught her
husband having sex with another man. In that case, at least it was
with an adult.
"Shaiya Brizel relates that some of the boys with whom his father had
relations sent letters of complaint to their own fathers; in the
discreet ultra-Orthodox society they had no one else to whom they
could complain.
Shaiya Brizel: author of a book telling of sodomy in the synagogue
"When she read these letters, my mother went out of her mind,' writes
Brizel. 'Every such letter made her want to demand a divorce. Again
and again batteries of mediators, the Brizel rabbis, would show up,
whose job it was to calm her down so that, heaven forbid, she would
not destroy the good name of the Brizel family.
"They could live with the fact that one of their own had raped minors,
but for them divorce was an impossible situation.'
"...Twice, once during prayers in a synagogue, and once during a
Gemara (Talmud) study hour at Rabbi Eliezer Shach's Ponevezh Yeshiva,
ultra-Orthodox men who were strangers to him touched his sexual organ,
presumably on the assumption that he followed in his father's
footsteps. The first time, he made a fuss, only to discover that the
only thing that interested the people there was to hush the whole
thing up. The second time, he made do with a whispered warning to the
man.
"Shaiya Brizel is now 36 and the father of three; he works as an
accountant.
"His father, 65, was forced to leave home several years ago and return
to his elderly parents' apartment. Shaiya wrote this book after a
suicide attempt in June.
'For all those years I was half dead. For the past five years I have
been getting psychological treatment. During my talks with the
psychologist I decided that I was going to spew out all this ugliness
in the form of a book.'
"He took into account that there would be violent reactions to the
book...which only came out a few weeks ago...Brizel suffers from a
serious heart defect, which could cause his death. As a way of
protecting himself, he has deposited a letter with three lawyers that
contains serious allegations about the Eda Haredit, and he has
informed the relevant people.
"Recently, he has moved to a new apartment, and he lives in the
National Religious sector of a mixed community of National Religious
and ultra-Orthodox families. Naturally, he started praying at the only
Hasidic synagogue in the settlement. After the book came out,
associates of the local rebbe (rabbi) informed him that he was persona
non grata.
"Ironically, this same rebbe had come to the area after being
compelled to leave several other communities on suspicion of having
sodomized his pupils. In ultra-Orthodox society, revealing that acts
of sodomy have been committed is a far graver offense than committing
them.
"On the day the book was published, Brizel met with the head of the
Hachemei Lublin Yeshiva, Rabbi Avraham Vazner. 'He told me that
publishing the book was a million times worse than what my father had
done...'
"Ha'aretz has been unable to obtain a response from Rabbi Yaakov
Yitzhak Brizel. At his parents' home, a woman replied: "We don't care.
Shaiya is a liar and there is nothing more to be said."
"Ha'aretz also requested the Brizels' response through the Eda Haredit
activist Yehuda Meshi- Zahav. By the time the article went to press,
there was no response through this channel either.
"Several weeks ago the father responded to the women's magazine
La'isha, saying that he would sue the publishers, which has not yet
happened. It is unlikely that it will happen.
"Shaiya Brizel was ready to put off publication of the book, on
condition that the family sue him in a rabbinical court, in which the
affair would be aired. He has said that no one in the family was
prepared to take up the challenge.
"In the conversation with La'isha, the father said that he was indeed
a homosexual, 'But I have had treatment and today I am no longer like
that. All this is behind me.'
"In reply to a question as to whether he had sexual relations with
minors, he replied: 'Perhaps I will talk about that some other time.'
He accused his son Shaiya of being 'the only one who is after me. He
has destroyed my life...He wrote this only for the money. He wanted
money from me...Because of him I separated from my wife.'
"Shaiya's sister, Rivka Hubert, spoke with great anger to the La'isha
reporter about the fact that her brother had revealed the names of the
persons involved, and declared: 'We deny everything it says in the
book."
[End quote]
Source: Ha'aretz, "Israel's Leading Daily Newspaper," Shevat 25, 5760
(Feb. 1, 2000).
Christianity is the only true religion of the Bible. It was founded by
Israelites who adhered to the Torah (Pentateuch) and who recognized in
Christ's gospel of salvation through grace, the fulfillment of the Old
Testament. It is the followers of Jesus who constitute the holy nation
and the royal priesthood (I Peter 2:9).
Copyright ©2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved.
The Truth About the Talmud is copyrighted material excerpted from
Michael A. Hoffman's book, "Judaism's Strange Gods."
Independent History and Research, Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816
Source to Article
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Warhol
> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
> > From Acharya S
> > 7-26-9
>
> > Talmudic Quotes
>
>
> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
>
> RT
> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
Also to note, which the Media is so afraid to expose, is that in
America and in Europe, there exists a huge Blackmarket Trade of Human
Organs, of kidnapped Palestinians by the pigsraeli Thugs detined for
various recognized Hospitals. In this trade the Human Rights
Organization bodies are paid a hefty Bribe to say nothing.
In accordance with Talmud Jews are encouraged to kill non Jewish
children and consume hem for Jewish religious festivals. For example
during Jewish religious festivals many Jewish butcher shops sell meat
cut from Palestinian and other non Jewish children. Every year in
Israel disappear hundreds of non Jewish children manly foreign tourist
kids.
That’ was one of the main reasons for Hitler to act in protecting
German children from that horrible Jewish religious practice.
Before Second World War about hundred thousand German kids ended up to
be sacrificed in Jewish Synagogues
Warhol
>
> Soncino English Translation of the Babylonian Talmudhttp://wilkerson.110mb.com/index.htm
>
> Or check your local library for a copy of the Talmud.
>
> For refutations of faked Talmud "quotes", see:
> The Talmud Exposedhttp://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
>
> HTH
>
> Deborah
Statements like yours does exactly the opposite of it's intent. It
actually makes it easier to pity Jews and to pity Jew supporters.
Why?? Because of your complete lack of humanity in your postings. It
shows how little you think about actual humans.
It helps many think of yids as animals that badly need culling.
If that is your intent you are a great success. If not, then maybe you
should just F-off because you are a failure, period
Don Ocean
Barnes and Noble have it on their shelves. The best and honest version
is the Babylonian Talmud. That is the original. It is available in
paperback. It should not be used to criticize all Jews. But a large
portion of said Jews do ascribe to its laws. Many Jews are asshole all
on their own. They don't need the Talmud to urge them on. Do remember
there were great Jews like Barry Goldwater an Hyman Rickover. Then of
course we have the Rosenbergs, Jonathon Pollard and the Bernie Maddoffs.
Don Ocean
Actually it is quite accurate. As for Google.. (1) They are not an
authority on this subject. (2) They are a Media controlled by Jewish
Zionists. Go get a copy at Barnes and Noble ad read for yourself. You
merely compromise your credibility when making asinine lies like this.
>
> For example, the reference to "Libbre David 37" is to a non-existent book.
> There is no such book in either the Talmud or Torah.
Try the babylonian Talmud!!!!!
The same applies to
> later references to "Hadarine" and "Gad. Shas 2.2" which share non-existence
> with "Libbre David 37".
Try the same as above. Just because you Jews redoctored that, to avoid
another attack like that of Henry Ford. Who apparently was 100% correct
in his assessment of organized Jewry. Anyone want to assess why Henry
Ford went after the Jews with Tooth and nail? We all know why Hitlers
Germany did. Even George Patton had a belly full of their crimes.
Lets turn this discussion into a fact finding section to educate the
Jews that do want to do right. Hitler failed to separate the two(Good
and Bad) and thus went after all of them.
dsharavi
> > PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> > going to look this up myself. Anyone......
>
> Barnes and Noble have it on their shelves. The best and honest version
> is the Babylonian Talmud. That is the original. It is available in
> paperback.
All 20 volumes?
Deborah
Don Ocean
Keenan is obviously a fool and a liar. That Talmud was a creation of the
Jewish Sanhedrin. It is available at Barnes and Nobel in paperback.
Quite cheap and very nasty to gentiles. The English version is somewhat
cleaned up from its true Babylonian ancestors that rules the day in
israel and its world supporters. Including those in America. Keenan
feels he can get away with these lies as Ben Cramer is no longer here to
refute in great detail this fallacy. Cramer was politically assassinated
from the net by Jewish interests that resented his open proofs of Jewish
Bigotry and racism..Along with open mass murder. More free speech
destroyed by Jews... And to what ends? Anyone that would spend $300 to
pull up a doctored copy of the Talmud to refute real facts is desperate
and obviously has something to gain by such lying actions.
Warhol wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:54 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>
>> <snippage>
>> Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
>> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
>>
>> =================
>>
>> It isn't accurate, as you would readily learn if you bothered to check with
>> Google.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> -pk
>
>
>
> The Talmud is one of the most sickening documents ever written.
> It is all pornography, blood filled, lots of stupidity, hatred of all.
>
> It is so sick if you made copies and handed them out
> they would jail you and in court "the truth is no defense"
>
> The Truth About the Satanic Inspired Talmud
>
> A Documented Expos� of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature
American Eagle
>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>> From Acharya S
>
> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
> tripe.
Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
Jewdas
Such a wild and woolly imagination you have.
>
>
Don Ocean
Still full of shit, I see.
>
>
dsharavi
> Keenan is obviously a fool and a liar. That Talmud was a creation of the
> Jewish Sanhedrin. It is available at Barnes and Nobel in paperback.
All 20 volumes in one paperback?
Deborah
dsharavi
> >>> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> >>> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
> > On Jul 26, 4:52 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Barnes and Noble have it on their shelves. The best and
>> >honest version is the Babylonian Talmud. That is the
> > >original. It is available in paperback.
>
> > All 20 volumes?
> > Deborah
>
On Jul 26, 6:00 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Still full of shit, I see.
Barnes and Noble
The Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakot (1921)
by Abraham Cohen
500 pp
Paperback $38.95
The Babylonian Talmud: Tract Sanhedrin
by Michael L. Rodkinson379 pp
Paperback $33.95
The Babylonian Talmud, Book 7, (Vols. Xiii And Xiv)
by Michael L. Rodkinson
480pp
Paperback $22.99
Amazon.com
The Babylonian Talmud, all 20 volumes in one file, with active table
of contents, improved 6/12/2008 (Kindle Edition)
by Michael L. Rodkinson (Translator)
1 Review
3 star: (1)
http://www.amazon.com/Babylonian-Talmud-volumes-contents-improved/dp/B0011YIPVU/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1
"The Babylonian Talmud, translated by Michael L. Rodkinson. (1903,
contains all of the tractates in the Orders of Mo'ed/Festivals and
Nezikin/Damages, plus some additional material related to these
Orders.) This is inaccurate and was wholly superseded by the Soncino
translation: it is sometimes linked to from the internet because, for
copyright reasons, it was until recently the only translation freely
available on the Web"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
Deborah
BDK
Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts almost as
much as you avoid sanity.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
mirjam
> For refutations of faked Talmud "quotes", see:
> The Talmud Exposedhttp://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
>
> HTH
>
> Deborah
Thank you Deborah ,
i read this SO CALLED Quotes letter and shrugged my shoulders ,,,
There is an end to Human stupidity, and this kind of stuff sits on
that end line. Later i tought about the many people who might think it
was true, and again shrugged my shoulders , why would people believe
such stupidity? I am always an optimist and hope the best for people`s
behaviours.
mirjam
mirjam
> All 20 volumes?
>
> Deborah
And Deborah ,you are so right
,,, have you ever seen it in paper back ? in all my life i have seen
many many Tamuds , never one in paper back
mirjam
JMD Morgan
I appreciate if you point out what is falsehoods with reliable
refrences, and please check this book Talmud Unmasked and provide
prrof that it is untrue, thanks
dsharavi
> > The Talmud Exposedhttp://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
> > HTH
> > Deborah
>
> Thank you Deborah ,
> i read this SO CALLED Quotes letter and shrugged my shoulders ,,,
> There is an end to Human stupidity, and this kind of stuff sits on
> that end line. Later i tought about the many people who might think it
> was true, and again shrugged my shoulders , why would people
> believe such stupidity?
Something lacking in their own lives, I think. So they fill the void
with this sort of thing, instead of something useful.
>I am always an optimist and hope the best for people`s
> behaviours.
> mirjam
I've never been able to cure myself of optimism <g>.
Deborah
dsharavi
> > Deborah
>
On Jul 26, 8:59 pm, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> And Deborah ,you are so right
> ,,, have you ever seen it in paper back ? in all my life i have seen
> many many Tamuds , never one in paper back
> mirjam
I doubt it could be put into one paperback volume. If it were, it
would be awfully difficult to lift.
Deborah
vtcapo
It seems I am getting mixed messages here and will have to buy the
text you mention to see for myself.
Thanks for the info.
RT
PS There is bad blood in every religious/ethnic group and I am sure
not all Jews follow this code if it is what Warhol claims it is. None
the less, if it is what you say it is, one can understand why some
feel justified in condeming Jews....
RT
BradGuth
>
> It seems I am getting mixed messages here and will have to buy the
> text you mention to see for myself.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> RT
>
> PS There is bad blood in every religious/ethnic group and I am sure
> not all Jews follow this code if it is what Warhol claims it is. None
> the less, if it is what you say it is, one can understand why some
> feel justified in condeming Jews....
>
> RT
The problem is mostly that they do not police their own kind, and thus
one nasty thing or lie leads to another.
~ BG
cornholio
Were you touched before you became a muslim? Or is your mental illness
a result of islam?
Warhol
and when did Mongols become yids???
BDK
9bd070...@r25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> On Jul 27, 6:31 pm, cornholio <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 2:41 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 26, 7:33 pm, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
> > > > > From Acharya S
> > > > > 7-26-9
> >
> > > > > Talmudic Quotes
> >
> > > > Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
> > > > accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
> >
> > > > RT
> > > > PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
> > > > going to look this up myself. Anyone......
> >
> > > Also to note, which the Media is so afraid to expose, is that in
> > > America and in Europe, there exists a huge Blackmarket Trade of Human
> > > Organs, of kidnapped Palestinians by the pigsraeli Thugs detined for
> > > various recognized Hospitals. In this trade the Human Rights
> > > Organization bodies are paid a hefty Bribe to say nothing.
> >
> > > In accordance with Talmud Jews are encouraged to kill non Jewish
> > > children and consume hem for Jewish religious festivals. For example
> > > during Jewish religious festivals many Jewish butcher shops sell meat
> > > cut from Palestinian and other non Jewish children. Every year in
> > > Israel disappear hundreds of non Jewish children manly foreign tourist
> > > kids.
> > > German children from that horrible Jewish religious practice.
> >
> > > Before Second World War about hundred thousand German kids ended up to
> > > be sacrificed in Jewish Synagogues
> >
> > Were you touched before you became a muslim? Or is your mental illness
> > a result of islam?
>
>
> and when did Mongols become yids???
>
Tap dancing again? Still? It's a legit question. When did you lose the
last trace of sanity.
Don Ocean
one Volume at Barnes and Noble is $27.95. Published by a Jewish
publishing company in America. Any more stupid comments, Deborah?
>
Patrick Keenan
news:7d498lF...@mid.individual.net...
And clearly, neither are you.
> (2) They are a Media controlled by Jewish Zionists. Go get a copy at
> Barnes and Noble ad read for yourself.
The Talmud sold by Barnes and Noble is this one:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Babylonian-Talmud/Jacob-Neusner/e/9781565637078/?itm=1
It's 22 volumes, plus CD, it's not paperback, and the list price is nearly
US$900.
> You merely compromise your credibility when making asinine lies like this.
Excuse me, but the book *you* are representing as the Talmud is anything but
complete. It's a summary, which is made clear in its subtitle.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Talmud/H-Polano/e/9781585092376/?itm=1
"Polano has taken what he believes to be the best material and put it into
extremely readable form".
>>
>> For example, the reference to "Libbre David 37" is to a non-existent
>> book. There is no such book in either the Talmud or Torah.
>
> Try the babylonian Talmud!!!!!
I did. It's not there. That's partly because the book you're pretending
is the Talmud is actually *selections* from it. It's an extremely abridged
version.
However, it's mostly because those references are fictional.
The book you're pushing has, as a subtitle:
"Selections from the Contents of That Ancient Book, It's Commentaries,
Teachings, Poetry and Legendsalso Brief Sketches of the Men Who Made and
comment"
Note the use of the word "selections".
Do you know what that word means in this context?
> The same applies to
>> later references to "Hadarine" and "Gad. Shas 2.2" which share
>> non-existence with "Libbre David 37".
>
> Try the same as above.
Yep, not there either.
> Just because you Jews redoctored that,
Here's a hint: It's really not very convincing to present a 384-page book
that refers to itself as "selections" as an authoritative version of a work
normally delivered in 20+ volumes.
Hope this helps.
-pk
American Eagle
> In article <7d4a37F...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
>> dsharavi wrote:
>>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>>> From Acharya S
>>> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
>>> tripe.
>> Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
>>
>
>
> Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts almost as
> much as you avoid sanity.
Obviously I hit a nerve or you wouldn't be going into full meltdown with
this misspelled diatribe. ;-p Or is that Idiot speak? You really should
try to post in American, as this is an American newsgroup.
Patrick Keenan
news:8cb164aa-4e8b-4150...@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
There is, in fact, a 384-page paperback summary, ISBN-13: 9781585092376.
Apparently first published at the close of the 19th century.
It has as a subtitle:
"Selections from the Contents of That Ancient Book, It's Commentaries,
Teachings, Poetry and Legendsalso Brief Sketches of the Men Who Made and
comment"
Some of it is here:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=KyJ44AeJj4sC&dq=talmud+polano&source=gbs_navlinks_s
That's the edition "Mr. Ocean" presents as an authoritative version of a
work that normally appears in 20+ volume sets. The blurb at Barnes & Noble
makes this comment:
"Polano has taken what he believes to be the best material and put it into
extremely readable form".
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Talmud/H-Polano/e/9781585092376/?itm=1
Clearly, this edition is not actually represented by the publisher as being
a complete edition of the Talmud. It's only "Mr. Ocean" who pretends that
it is.
On the other hand, Barnes and Noble *does* actually sell a Babylonian
Talmud:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?SZE=10&WRD=Talmud&SRT=9
It's 22 hardcover volumes plus CD, list price just under $900. Just a wee
bit different from what "Mr. Ocean" pretends.
HTH
-pk
American Eagle
It is truly amusing to watch you Jews running around trying to plug all
the holes in your insane Talmudic laws. I have ordered and sent 10
copies of the Talmud to posters on this and other groups. I just wanted
to prove what a batch of arrogant Jews believe to be their heritage of
law and religion. And you wonder why 1930's Germany turned on you en
masse. I think its way past time that you folks clean up your act and
join the human race.
Jewdas
> On Jul 26, 2:41 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 26, 7:33 pm, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>> From Acharya S
>>>> 7-26-9
>>>> Talmudic Quotes
>>> Rabbi Saul can you comment on the accuracy of the above. If it is
>>> accurate, and you are a Rabbi, how do you justify your religion?
>>> RT
>>> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
>>> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
>> Also to note, which the Media is so afraid to expose, is that in
>> America and in Europe, there exists a huge Blackmarket Trade of Human
>> Organs, of kidnapped Palestinians by the pigsraeli Thugs detined for
>> various recognized Hospitals. In this trade the Human Rights
>> Organization bodies are paid a hefty Bribe to say nothing.
>>
>> In accordance with Talmud Jews are encouraged to kill non Jewish
>> children and consume hem for Jewish religious festivals. For example
>> during Jewish religious festivals many Jewish butcher shops sell meat
>> cut from Palestinian and other non Jewish children. Every year in
>> Israel disappear hundreds of non Jewish children manly foreign tourist
>> kids.
>> German children from that horrible Jewish religious practice.
>>
>> Before Second World War about hundred thousand German kids ended up to
>> be sacrificed in Jewish Synagogues
>
> Were you touched before you became a muslim? Or is your mental illness
> a result of islam?
As nutsy as you Jews are.. It is plausible to a certain point. It is
hilarious to see fools like you call the Islamics insane. Hell, it seems
to run in both lines of the same family of Abraham. Someone should have
offed the insane deadbeat daddy before he impregnated whatever goat bore
your kind.
Alexander
What primordial pool did you ooze out of?
Don Ocean
>>>> vtcapo wrote:
>>>>> PS What is the best Hebrew to English translation of the Talmud? I'm
>>>>> going to look this up myself. Anyone......
>
>>> On Jul 26, 4:52 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Barnes and Noble have it on their shelves. The best and
>>>> honest version is the Babylonian Talmud. That is the
>>>> original. It is available in paperback.
>>> All 20 volumes?
>>> Deborah
> On Jul 26, 6:00 pm, Don Ocean <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Still full of shit, I see.
>
>
> Barnes and Noble
>
> The Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakot (1921)
> by Abraham Cohen
> 500 pp
> Paperback $38.95
Nope! $29.95.. I just ordered ten copies to be sent to different posters
on the NG's.
American Eagle
But Mirjam.. You worked in a shoe factory and not a "Barnes and Noble".
Such a ridiculous argument and so Jew like of you. As for Deborah, we
all know she is extremely jaded and messed up in the head. I read her
original posting of that recipe for a Palestinian child. Then you people
have the guts to whine about what the Germans were forced to do to your
kind in order to restore their own national economy. Could it be that
you want us to have to resort to the same actions to cleans America of
the infestation of Jewish spies in our government and economy?
Patrick Keenan
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>> news:A5OdnSzcMc5zNPHX...@giganews.com...
>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>
>> Except that much of what you present isn't either quotes or factual, as
>> can be easily demonstrated.
>>
>> You *could* have checked for yourself - perhaps you did, and decided to
>> post falsehoods anyway.
>>
>> You seem to spend a lot of time promoting a specific religion.
>>
>> Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
>>
>> -pk
>>
>> <snippage>
>
> I appreciate if you point out what is falsehoods with reliable refrences,
The Talmud.
> and please check this book Talmud Unmasked and provide
> prrof that it is untrue, thanks
Pranaitis? You want to cite *Pranaitis*, and in the same sentence pretend
that you want "reliable references"?
You *of course know* that Pranaitis demonstrated in court, in the Beilis
blood libel trial, that he had *no* functional knowledge of the Talmud, or
Jewish culture or religious practice. He was shown to be unaware of basic
concepts and definitions used in the Talmud.
Pranaitis' testimony for the prosecution on the topic of the Talmud and
Jewish practice was so pathetic, so unreliable, and so absurd, that people
in the court laughed at him.
And Beilis was acquitted by unanimous vote.
The police view of Pranaitis wasn't very positive:
"Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert
opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of
Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of
resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value. Professors
Troitskij and Kokovtsev, who were interrogated today, gave conclusions which
are exceptionally positive for the defence, praising doctrines of the Jewish
religion, and not accepting even a possibility of a religious murder by Jews
... Vipper thinks that acquittal is possible. "
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis#encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinas_Pranaitis#cite_note-tager-2
http://www.sullivan-county.com/x/pr.htm
You really need much better, and much smarter, role models.
As to Pranaitis' trash, check his work against here:
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/
Or better yet, against an actual Talmud.
As to the other falsehoods you are presenting, see my other posts on this
topic.
What you have presented refers to books that don't exist in Jewish
literature. For example, to say that the Talmud contains a book or
chapter titled "Libbre David 37" is a falsehood. The same applies to
"Haradine" and "Gad. Shas". Your post has many more.
You would know this if you had checked; and since it's so easy for you to
have done so, there isn't much reason to suppose that you didn't.
Especially since you want to refer us to *Pranaitis*.
Now, back to the question. You regularly promote a specific religion.
Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
Yes, or no?
If the answer is no, why are you doing it?
-pk
BDK
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <7d4a37F...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
> >> dsharavi wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
> >>>>> From Acharya S
> >>> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
> >>> tripe.
> >> Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts almost as
> > much as you avoid sanity.
>
> Obviously I hit a nerve or you wouldn't be going into full meltdown with
> this misspelled diatribe.
Hit a nerve? Well, you did make me laugh. You kooks almost always do.
> ;-p Or is that Idiot speak? You really should
> try to post in American, as this is an American newsgroup.
>
You're an American? ROTFL.
A simple mistype is a lame thing to pick on. Or maybe you couldn't
figure out I meant "avoid". With your limited active brain cells, I
suppose it's a possibility.
mirjam
> It is truly amusing to watch you Jews running around trying to plug all
> the holes in your insane Talmudic laws. I have ordered and sent 10
> copies of the Talmud to posters on this and other groups. I just wanted
> to prove what a batch of arrogant Jews believe to be their heritage of
> law and religion. And you wonder why 1930's Germany turned on you en
> masse. I think its way past time that you folks clean up your act and
>
> - Show quoted text -
American Eagle
You have sent 10 copies of the Talmud to posters here and
elsewhere ??? how interesting , and do all those posters read Hebrew
and Arameic ???
mirjam
mirjam
What Shoe factory? , what are you writing about ? Of course i didn`t
work at "Barnes and Noble" , i don`t live in USA ,,, i worked in a
University. but why confuse you with facts ??? you already made up
your own Fiction..
mirjam
Stewart
Did you know that all profits from this sale go to the Israeli defense
fund?
Stewart
"American Eagle" <A...@USA.com> wrote in message
news:7d7ahgF...@mid.individual.net...
This is not an American only newsgroup. Besides, you are not an
American....
JMD Morgan
> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
> news:FNmdnVn_y5LZpvDX...@giganews.com...
>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>>> news:A5OdnSzcMc5zNPHX...@giganews.com...
>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>> Except that much of what you present isn't either quotes or factual, as
>>> can be easily demonstrated.
>>>
>>> You *could* have checked for yourself - perhaps you did, and decided to
>>> post falsehoods anyway.
>>>
>>> You seem to spend a lot of time promoting a specific religion.
>>>
>>> Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
>>>
>>> -pk
>>>
>>> <snippage>
>> I appreciate if you point out what is falsehoods with reliable refrences,
>
> The Talmud.
>
>> and please check this book Talmud Unmasked and provide
>> prrof that it is untrue, thanks
>
> Pranaitis? You want to cite *Pranaitis*, and in the same sentence pretend
> that you want "reliable references"?
You changed the subject, my question is clear are these quotations in
the Talmud or not, if there is any lies please point it out.
check the quotations here as well
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Patrick Keenan
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>> news:FNmdnVn_y5LZpvDX...@giganews.com...
>>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>>>> news:A5OdnSzcMc5zNPHX...@giganews.com...
>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>> Except that much of what you present isn't either quotes or factual, as
>>>> can be easily demonstrated.
>>>>
>>>> You *could* have checked for yourself - perhaps you did, and decided to
>>>> post falsehoods anyway.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to spend a lot of time promoting a specific religion.
>>>>
>>>> Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
>>>>
>>>> -pk
>>>>
>>>> <snippage>
>>> I appreciate if you point out what is falsehoods with reliable
>>> refrences,
>>
>> The Talmud.
>>
>>> and please check this book Talmud Unmasked and provide
>>> prrof that it is untrue, thanks
>>
>> Pranaitis? You want to cite *Pranaitis*, and in the same sentence
>> pretend that you want "reliable references"?
>
> You changed the subject,
No, I did not. Pay attention. And by the way, it is*you* are the one who
brings up other topics.
> my question is clear
As my answers have been. But if your question was clear, why do you
attempt to introduce other falsehoods?
> are these quotations in the Talmud or not, if there is any lies please
> point it out.
Already done. Many of the "quotations" are made up and attributed to books
that don't exist.
You have been caught promoting falsehoods.
Now, back to the question. You regularly promote a specific religion.
Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
Yes, or no?
If the answer is no, why are you doing it?
>
> check the quotations here as well
> http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
And here you go again, introducing more falsehoods rather than facing the
truth.
The answer is the same. In this case, there's a tell-tale falsehood in the
very first sentence. The Talmud is *not* "Judaism's holiest book".
Patrick Keenan
You bought and sent ten copies of a $900, 22-volume set of books to various
posters?
My, but you are generous.
Or perhaps you're just making things up.
I wonder which is more likely?
-pk
Patrick Keenan
Isn't that interesting. "American Eagle" just made exactly the same claim.
By the way, what you're describing isn't the Talmud. It's only a portion
of it, and there are at least 63 tractates.
What you're claiming is similar to sending around the wording of the 2nd
Amendment of the US Constitution and claiming that you're distributing the
whole of US law.
And as shown previously, the Polano book is only a summary of various
selections, and isn't the Talmud.
In any case, you clearly shown that you do not know what the Talmud is.
Thanks for playing.
-pk
Patrick Keenan
Before you go making comments about "stupid claims", you might want to
actually look at the book you're trying to sell.
As the publisher and B&N make clear, it's a summary of selections from the
Talmud. It isn't the Talmud.
Guess you weren't smart enough to figure that one out.
By the way, B&N does sell an actual Talmud - list price nearly $900, 22
hardbound volumes plus CD.
Hope this helps.
-pk
Patrick Keenan
RT
=================
Of course, if you buy the book Ocean / American Eagle is selling, you won't
find the information. That book is marketed as a rewrite of selections
from the Talmud, not as the actual work. The complete Talmud is normally
contained in over 20 hardbound books.
Of course, that would only be of interest to you if you were concerned about
the truth of the matter.
Hope this helps.
-pk
Don Ocean
> In article <7d7ahgF...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
>> BDK wrote:
>>> In article <7d4a37F...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
>>>> dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>>>>> From Acharya S
>>>>> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
>>>>> tripe.
>>>> Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts almost as
>>> much as you avoid sanity.
>> Obviously I hit a nerve or you wouldn't be going into full meltdown with
>> this misspelled diatribe.
>
> Hit a nerve? Well, you did make me laugh. You kooks almost always do.
>
Of course you do. we are all well aware of your insane and pathetic
screechy loon call.
>> ;-p Or is that Idiot speak? You really should
>> try to post in American, as this is an American newsgroup.
>>
>
> You're an American? ROTFL.
>
> A simple mistype is a lame thing to pick on. Or maybe you couldn't
> figure out I meant "avoid". With your limited active brain cells, I
> suppose it's a possibility.
You leave others and myself to wonder if maybe your mommy ate your
minuscule brain. Seems to be the thing in your neighborhood.
Jewdas
I guess the WTC is located in upper Siberia?
>
>
American Eagle
why should they? These are in English and purchased from Barnes and
Noble. Are you really so stupid as to believe anything written in Greek
and ancient Aramaic or Hebrew or whatever cannot be translated. There
are probably more latin writings then Jew stuff. I think you need to go
back to work in that shoe factory.
>
American Eagle
One paperback thick volume for $27.95 postpaid for each.
>
> My, but you are generous.
Proves that I am *not* a skin flinted thieving Jew or Jewess.
>
> Or perhaps you're just making things up.
The point is that you skanky Jews have some answering to do for your
AntiGentile laws in that Talmud. You cannot deny your own writings and
especially since the Sanhedrin has be reconvened since 1995. which
incidentally coincides with much of the violence against Israels
victimized neighbors.
>
> I wonder which is more likely?
I think it is likely that no matter how much noise you make and lies you
tell..this isn't going away. Jews are racist and bugotted as they come.
They have invited their own holocaust and whine when they get exactly
what they asked for. I did some research and i find atrick Keenan is a
fool with some real problems in his back ground. Just some more of my
generosity to pay for a full disclosure sonny. ;-p
>
> -pk
>
>
>
>
>
>
Don Ocean
Actually the Jewish printers are very greedy and share with no one..
including the IRS. Isn't the IDF still on the run from Hezzbollah?
I guess they need track shoes, eh? ;-p
>
>
>
Don Ocean
Whatta crock of Jew shit!
>
> And as shown previously, the Polano book is only a summary of various
> selections, and isn't the Talmud.
>
> In any case, you clearly shown that you do not know what the Talmud is.
>
> Thanks for playing.
Does it make a difference on how much of the Talmud it is or isn't? It
is still racist, Bigotted and antiGentile. which of course goes against
everything America is. By the way others chipped in for those books. It
is understandable why antiSemitism is rising and American taxpayers are
leading the parade. Our libraries out in the hinterland have copies of
it while big cities like New York etc seem to have banned it from public
viewing. More Jew suppression of speech and knowledge?
>
> -pk
>
>
American Eagle
when you first posted, you were angry that America stopped buying shoes
at the shoe factory you worked at and it closed. Do make up you mind
which lie you are going to utilize.
fla...@verizon.net
On 28-Jul-2009, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote:
> "American Eagle" <A...@USA.com> wrote in message
> news:7d7as2F...@mid.individual.net...
> > It is truly amusing to watch you Jews running around trying to plug all
> > the holes in your insane Talmudic laws. I have ordered and sent 10
> > copies
> > of the Talmud to posters on this and other groups.
And yet these insane liars think *anyone* should EVER take them *seriously*?
> > I just wanted to
> > prove
> > what a batch of arrogant Jews believe to be their heritage of law and
> > religion. And you wonder why 1930's Germany turned on you en masse. I
> > think its way past time that you folks clean up your act and join the
> > human race.
>
> You bought and sent ten copies of a $900, 22-volume set of books to
> various posters?
>
> My, but you are generous.
>
> Or perhaps you're just making things up.
>
> I wonder which is more likely?
>
Based on *any* of his other posts, I'm betting on the latter.
Susan
Don Ocean
The point was and still is the AntiGentile content of a book of laws
that the Jews ascribe to. Until you have educated yourself to what those
laws are.. you have no need to waste bandwidth responding. By the way
Cramer posted a website that has the entire babylonian Talmud on it. Do
you suppose that is why the Jews assassinated his ISP rights? By the
way..this is *NOT* a god Damned Jew Newsgroup. Take your Jew shit to the
proper groups. Many many quotes from the Talmud have been posted for
free on this and other NG's
>
>
fla...@verizon.net
On 28-Jul-2009, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote:
> "Don Ocean" <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7d7bc1F...@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> Barnes and Noble
> >>
> >> The Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakot (1921)
> >> by Abraham Cohen
> >> 500 pp
> >> Paperback $38.95
> >
> > Nope! $29.95.. I just ordered ten copies to be sent to different posters
> >
> > on the NG's.
>
> Isn't that interesting. "American Eagle" just made exactly the same
> claim.
And yet *all* of them pretend that any of them a
re in any way creditable!
> By the way, what you're describing isn't the Talmud. It's only a portion
> of it, and there are at least 63 tractates.
>
No, really? :-)
> What you're claiming is similar to sending around the wording of the 2nd
> Amendment of the US Constitution and claiming that you're distributing the
> whole of US law.
>
Which sounds exactly like something they would
do if they thought it would further their lies.
>
> And as shown previously, the Polano book is only a summary of various
> selections, and isn't the Talmud.
>
> In any case, you clearly shown that you do not know what the Talmud is.
>
AGAIN.
>
> Thanks for playing.
And that's all that they are really capable of: childish games.
Susan
BDK
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <7d7ahgF...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
> >> BDK wrote:
> >>> In article <7d4a37F...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com says...
> >>>> dsharavi wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
> >>>>>>> From Acharya S
> >>>>> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of this
> >>>>> tripe.
> >>>> Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts almost as
> >>> much as you avoid sanity.
> >> Obviously I hit a nerve or you wouldn't be going into full meltdown with
> >> this misspelled diatribe.
> >
> > Hit a nerve? Well, you did make me laugh. You kooks almost always do.
> >
>
>
> Of course you do. we are all well aware of your insane and pathetic
> screechy loon call.
Good for you. Hey, I have a shopping list if you want to buy me some
books...no Talmud or Torah, or any other religious books please.
> >> ;-p Or is that Idiot speak? You really should
> >> try to post in American, as this is an American newsgroup.
> >>
> >
> > You're an American? ROTFL.
> >
> > A simple mistype is a lame thing to pick on. Or maybe you couldn't
> > figure out I meant "avoid". With your limited active brain cells, I
> > suppose it's a possibility.
>
> You leave others and myself to wonder if maybe your mommy ate your
> minuscule brain. Seems to be the thing in your neighborhood.
>
Donnie, your posts over the last day or so prove you don't really have
any brain left. The buying books thing was funny though.
mirjam
> > Did you know that all profits from this sale go to the Israeli defense
> > fund?
>
> Actually the Jewish printers are very greedy and share with no one..
> including the IRS. Isn't the IDF still on the run from Hezzbollah?
> I guess they need track shoes, eh? ;-p
>
his Bunker, which he raelt left since three years ago.
mirjam
>
>
mirjam
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have posted years ago ,,,,and during some discussion i mentioned
that Usa , made Israel buy Usa made shoes , and thus caused the
closing of local shoe factories , I don`t recall ever saying i worked
in a shoe factory , this part is the Fruit of your imagination.
mirjam
fla...@verizon.net
Interestingly enough, it took the entire UN to make
Israel stop winning in Lebanon - and the lying
coward to whom you replied knows it!
Susan
JMD Morgan
> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
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>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>>> news:FNmdnVn_y5LZpvDX...@giganews.com...
>>>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>>>> "JMD Morgan" <John...@email.non> wrote in message
>>>>> news:A5OdnSzcMc5zNPHX...@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>>> Except that much of what you present isn't either quotes or factual, as
>>>>> can be easily demonstrated.
>>>>>
>>>>> You *could* have checked for yourself - perhaps you did, and decided to
>>>>> post falsehoods anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to spend a lot of time promoting a specific religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that religion teach you that lying is laudable?
>>>>>
>>>>> -pk
>>>>>
>>>>> <snippage>
>>>> I appreciate if you point out what is falsehoods with reliable
>>>> refrences,
>>> The Talmud.
>>>
Does the Jewish religion allow sex with a 3 year and on day old girl ?
Brother Takes Three-Year-Old Widow
In Tractate Niddah, again there is approval for priests to marry and
copulate with baby girls. This passage describes a situation in which a
priest dies without children, leaving a three-year-old widow. In such
case, the priest's brother (the yebam) can acquire the girl by having
sexual intercourse with her. The ellipsis (�) in the following Mishna
indicates the omission of non-germane text. The full text is available
through the link at the Come and Hear� link, below.
MISHNAH. A GIRL OF THE AGE OF THREE YEARS AND ONE DAY MAY BE
BETROTHED BY INTERCOURSE; � IF SHE WAS MARRIED TO A PRIEST, SHE MAY EAT
TERUMAH.
� Babylonian Talmud Tractate Niddah 44b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 308
Terumah is the word for temple offerings eaten by priests. This
statement indicates that the three-year-old bride is the widow of the
priest in all respects and privileges.
In the passage below, we see that the widow of a man who is not a priest
can be sexually possessed by her erstwhile brother-in-law and thereby
become his wife.
GEMARA. � R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years
and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased
husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his.
� Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 55b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 376
The statement quoted above from Tractate Sanhedrin 55b also appears in
Tractate Sanhedrin 69a, Soncino 1961 Edition, page 469.
Wounding Young Brides by Intercourse
The Sages go on to discuss sexual intercourse with a girl younger than
three years old: Wounding the child and causing her to bleed is one
possible result. From the Sages' description, it is apparent that the
baby bleeds again and again from copulation with a grown man, and the
Sages, once again, attribute the bleeding to the repetitive rupturing of
the hymen (i.e., virginity growing back).
In the following Mishnah, non-germane text is omitted (�). Please follow
the source link to view the complete Mishnah.
MISHNAH. A GIRL OF THE AGE OF THREE YEARS AND ONE DAY MAY BE
BETROTHED BY INTERCOURSE; � IF ONE WAS YOUNGER THAN THIS AGE INTERCOURSE
WITH HER IS LIKE PUTTING A FINGER IN THE EYE.
� Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Niddah 44b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 309
The image of "a finger in the eye" is once again explained in the
following Gemara. The possibility that the three-year-old committed
adultery with a stranger is also addressed:
GEMARA. � IF ONE WAS YOUNGER THAN THIS AGE, INTERCOURSE WITH HER IS
LIKE PUTTING A FINGER IN THE EYE. It was asked, Do the features of
virginity disappear and reappear again or is it possible that they
cannot be completely destroyed until after the third year of her age? In
what practical respect could this matter? � In one, for instance, where
her husband had intercourse with her before the age of three and found
blood, and when he had intercourse after the age of three he found no
blood. If you grant that they disappear and reappear again [it might
well be assumed] that there 'was not sufficient time for their
reappearance, but if you maintain that they cannot be destroyed until
after the age of three years it would be obvious that a stranger
cohabited with her. Now what is your decision? � R. Hiyya son of R. Ika
demurred: But who can tell us that a wound inflicted within the three
years is not healed forthwith, seeing it is possible that it is
immediately healed and it would thus be obvious that a stranger had
cohabited with her? Rather the practical difference is the case, for
instance, where her husband had intercourse with her while she was under
three years of age and found blood and when he had intercourse after the
age of three he also found blood. If you grant that the features
disappear and reappear again the blood might well be treated as that of
virginity, but if you maintain that they cannot be destroyed until after
the age of three years, that must be the blood of menstruation. Now what
is your decision? � R. Hisda replied, Come and hear: IF ONE WAS YOUNGER
THAN THIS AGE, INTERCOURSE WITH HER IS LIKE PUTTING A FINGER IN THE EYE;
what need was there to state, LIKE PUTTING A FINGER IN THE EYE' instead
of merely saying: IF ONE WAS YOUNGER THAN THIS AGE, INTERCOURSE WITH HER
IS of no consequence'? Does not this then teach us that as the eye tears
and tears again so do the features of virginity disappear and reappear
again.
� Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Niddah 45a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 309-310
http://www.talmudblasphemy.com/talmud-children.htm
<snip>
Don Ocean
Yawn............
Jewdas
> "Jewdas" <Jew...@circumcision.com> wrote in message
> news:7da1e0F...@mid.individual.net...
> open for anyone to post to. If it were an "American" newsgroup, it
> would be moderated.
No..that would be a Bolshevik/Communist/Jew thing. America has free
speech. Turn on your spell checker.
>
>
Majd al-Din
And you of course would know this as a fact. You get sillier every post
you make.
> >
American Eagle
Mo! The entire UN could not stop Israel from murdering the UN observers
as they were shelled to death in their outpost while begging for their
very lives over the radio. Susan, you are a despicable human being that
supports the demise of Americans and others by the murderous clan that
took you in. I do so hope that the day will come when you are suffering
from the same fate, by the same people as murdered so many innocent
Gentiles. I bet your Irish/American parents are heartsick that you are
their daughter.
Don Ocean
Have you broken Parole yet, Fat Boi?
>>>
>
American Eagle
Actually it is the fruit of your lying tongue. If you have Universities
there, why do you Jews run to American/German/Swiss and other
Universities?
Harvard and Yale were
founded by the Puritans, who had no use for Jews.
mirjam
> Actually it is the fruit of your lying tongue. If you have Universities
> there, why do you Jews run to American/German/Swiss and other
> Universities?
> Harvard and Yale were
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes we heard all about the Numerous Clausus those Universities had in
earlier times , Now there is Corretive discrimination , and minorities
have easy and hopefull equal opportunities for study .
mirjam
dsharavi
The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
and judges, the Tanna’im, or Teachers, stretching over some four
hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
close of the Bible, the Tanna’im appear, successors to an older group
of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
Mishna.
While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
in the modern sense, in Rabbi Judah’s work. To a great extent he was
merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
direction which it still takes.
Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
Amora’im, or Commenters, explored Rabbi Judah’s work, debating it line
by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
This is the Gemara, the Completion.
The discussions of the Amora’im snowballed, adding to the memory
burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
174-181
[cont’d]
The Talmud: 4. WHAT THE TALMUD IS LIKE
More than anything else, the Talmud reads like transcribed shorthand
notes. Debates, conversations, monologues follow each other, racy,
pithy, stripped to essentials, worded in strong rhythms that linger
naturally in the mind. The form is dramatic; that is, the Gemara is
all dialogue.
The talk always starts with the strip of Mishna in hand. But it does
not necessarily stay there. A phrase, a word, an idea in the Mishna
will start a new subject, and that subject can engross the Talmud --
and all its train of commentators across the centuries -- for the next
half-dozen pages. This is in the nature of oral learning. It would
tend to shift from topic to topic as a fresh and interesting notion
cropped up, instead of moving along a course charted by one mind.
One can almost see the two compilers packing into their manuscript all
the material that occurred to them as they went along, writing down
the memorized lore of a lifetime, ransacking their recollections,
while they were on a topic, for every scrap of related learning.
Perhaps they intended some day to sort it into a form nearer a code.
More likely it never occurred to them -- as it did to the medieval
codifiers -- that this was a needed further step. The very writing
down of the Talmud must have seemed to them such a learning aid that
thereafter Judaism would endure however low the general level of wit
and training would fall. If the laws of mourning were found in a
tractate on festivals, and the jurisprudence of the New Year was
broken up with a stretch of rabbinic astronomy, what of it?
In time the Talmud was shaken down into codes by many master hands.
But no code ever replaced the rambling, encyclopedic, complicated,
profound, gossipy Talmud in the affection or the attention of the
Jewish intellect. At this point in the very long history of Judaism’s
legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
overheard, or of a vehement argument in one’s own home. It is charged
with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
weighed over many generations.
This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
vitality.
- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
174-181
[cont’d]
Deborah
Warhol
> > Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
You want specific references to portions of the Talmud?
Five Rabbis arrested for money-laundering...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/23/new.jersey.arrests/index.html
IMO, the difference is that the rabbis were being 100% obedient to the
Talmud. Their activities were a perfect example, therefore, of
Rabbinic Judaism in action.
Talmud justifies greed, murder, rape, sexual perversion, cheating,
lies,disrespect of parents, etc. I have read the passages myself. It's
a cesspool.
See Matt. 23. See also Matt. 5: 20, and then compare with the
following Pharisaic passages in the Talmud: Erubin 41b, p. 287; Rosh
Hashanah 33a, p. 109; Moed Kattan 17a, p. 107; Berakoth 63b, 64a, p.
403, 4b, p. 14; Sanhedrin, 52b, p. 356, 55b, 56a, p. 563, 66a, pp.
448-449, 75b, 78a, pp. 519, 526, 77a, p. 520, 77b, p. 521, 78a, p.
524, 79a, p. 530, 11.1, p. 601, 57b, p.390, 57a, pp. 388-389,58b, p.
398, 54b-55a, p. 371, 69b, p.470; Kethuboth 111a, p. 717, 11b, p. 58;
Gittin 7a, p.24; Pesahim 113, pp. 582-583; Baba Bathra 10b, pp. 50-51;
Baba Mezia 24a, p. 151; Baba Kamma 113a, p. 664, 38a, p. 213; and
Kiddushin 29b, p. 141.
How US Rabbis & Israel Traffic In Human Organs & Money Laundering.
"""Pictures are very graphic!"""
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=417
Also, Jews are kidnapping children from African refugee camps?
http://judicial-inc.biz/810chad_sarkozy_rescues_zionist_kidnappers.htm
sick sick sick...
Without Comment:Quotes From the Talmud...
Sanhedrin 59a: Killing Goyim is like killing a wild animal"
Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a girl is permitted if she is
three years of age."
Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."
Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in
hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."
Zohar 1, 160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."
dsharavi
>
>>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
[massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
On Jul 30, 7:29 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>You want specific references to portions of the Talmud?
Asking Warthog for information on the Talmud is like asking Paris
Hilton to write a dissertation on advanced nuclear physics.
>Five Rabbis arrested for money-laundering...
>http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/23/new.jersey.arrests/index.html
This is an article from CNN, not specific references to portions of
the Talmud.
>See Matt. 23. See also Matt. 5: 20,
New Testament verses are not portions of the Talmud.
>Without Comment:Quotes From the Talmud...
>Sanhedrin 59a: Killing Goyim is like killing a wild animal"
>Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
Sanhedrin 59a says nothing about murdering the heathen, nor does it
include the phrase “wild animal.”
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#1
Abodah Zara 26b is not even part of the Talmud. It is a commentary to
the Talmud, and this passage is taken seriously out of context.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#2
"Our philosophy asserts that every human being is created in the image
of the Lord and the primacy of integrity and honesty in all dealings
without exception. I strongly repudiate any assertions in the name of
Judaism that do not represent and reflect this philosophy."
- Rabbi Malkiel Kotler, dean of the Lakewood Yeshiva, Dec. 16, 2003
It hardly needs be said that the Talmud does not state that Jews may
rob or kill non-Jews. It may be appropriate to make a few general
comments about the Talmudic view of murder.
Taking the life of any human being is forbidden. The Talmud teaches
that this prohibition was first declared in Genesis and applies to all
mankind. Everyone, Jew and non-Jew alike, commits a grievous sin if he
takes the life of another human being. The Talmud teaches: "Therefore
Adam was created alone in the world [i.e. humanity started from a
single individual] to teach that whoever destroys one person, it is
considered as if he has destroyed an entire world, and whoever saves
one person, it is considered as if he has saved an entire world, and
to establish peace among all creatures so that no one will say 'my
ancestor was greater than your ancestor' ..." (TY Sanhedrin 22).
A similar teaching regarding the enormity of the crime of murder was
learned by the sages from an analysis of the biblical text describing
the murder of Abel by Cain (Gen. 4:10): "The blood of your brother
cries out to Me ..". The word 'blood' can be understood as plural in
the original Hebrew text and the rabbis teach that the reference is to
both "his [Abel's] blood and the blood of his descendants". These
Talmudic teachings have been largely absorbed by all civilized
nations.
It may be of interest to quote the words used by the ancient
rabbinical courts to caution witnesses before they testified
concerning capital offenses (the following quotation is based on the
Rambam, Hilchot Sanhedrin 12,3, who based his ruling on Talmudic
teachings):
".. know that [in case of execution by false testimony] his blood and
the blood of his descendants to the end of all time [will be upon the
false testifier] ... that is why Adam was created a single person in
the world to teach that whoever destroys a single person from this
world is deemed to have destroyed an entire world ..... behold all
people who walk on this earth were created in the form of Adam ....
the faces of every one of them is different from that of his fellow
man and therefore each one can say 'the world was created on my
account' ..."
While murder of any kind is strictly forbidden, the Talmudic passage
quoted above deals only with the issue of capital punishment. The
biblical system of capital punishment was not designed for social
order or social regulation in the modern sense. Even when rabbinical
courts held the power to impose capital punishment the rules
surrounding such punishment were so difficult to apply that there was
essentially no effective death penalty under Talmudic law....
It must be clear however that the prohibition against murder applies
to all people, Jew and non-Jew alike, and even applies to the wildest
of pagans. This prohibition predates the giving of the Torah and is
one of the Noahide commandments and is repeated in the biblical
commandment not to murder.
The Talmud Exposed
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp.html
>Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a girl is permitted if she is
>three years of age."
Yebhamoth 11b says nothing about intercourse with a little girl.
Actually, the reference should be Ketaboth 11b, concerning betrothals.
A footnote to that passage says that if a man were to have intercourse
with a three year old she should not suffer the consequences of loss
of virginity when she become eligible for marriage. The comment is
actually a defense of victim’s rights. The man who did such thing
would be punished, but the victim shouldn’t be.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#5
The accusation here is quite nefarious. It implies that Judaism
permits pedophilia, has no respect for women, and generally advocates
loose sexual morals. To those familiar with the Talmud, this claim is
patently ridiculous. However, the majority of people — particularly
those making this claim — know little to nothing about the Talmud, its
contents, or its methodology. On our website The Real Truth About The
Talmud,
http://talmud.faithweb.com/
we elaborate on these issues. However, for now, we will focus on the
accusation at hand. It is, in fact, easily verified as being
incorrect.
Nowhere is the Talmud permitting such behavior. Sex outside of a
marriage is strictly forbidden (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot
Ishut 1:4, Hilchot Na'arah Betulah 2:17; Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer
26:1, 177:5) as is this obvious case of child abuse. The Talmud is
only discussing ex post facto what would happen if such a case arose.
That non-marital sexual relations is prohibited is stated explicitly
by Maimonides in the following passage from his ground-breaking legal
code Mishneh Torah:
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Ishut 1:4
"Whoever has licentious relations with a woman without marriage bonds
is lashed by biblical mandate."
The claim that the Talmud, or normative Judaism, permits sexual
relations with a minor is almost entirely incorrect. The slight truth
in it is that, in certain societies in history, people were sometimes
married as young as ten. While this was most recently done in Czarist
Russia in order to avoid being drafted into the Czar's army (which was
made especially difficult for Jews), it is not currently done.
However, even in that case, marriage is required before having sexual
relations. Judaism as a religion prohibits sexual relations, indeed
even minor touching such as holding hands, outside of marriage.
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html
>Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."
Sanhedrin 105a talks about Balaam (of talking donkey fame), and does
claim that he fornicated with his ass (presumably a Jenny Ass, not a
jackass). It says absolutely nothing about Jesus. In fact, nothing is
said about Jesus in the entire Talmud, much of which was written
before Jesus was born or during his lifetime.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#6
>Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in
>hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."
Gittin 57a tells of Balaam and some Jewish heretics suffering such
fates. It does not mention Jesus or Christians. The heretics mentioned
were probably the Sadduccees.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#7
>Zohar 1, 160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."
Zohar 1, 160a and Hilkoth Akum are not part of Talmud. There is no
such reference as Zohar 1, 160a. (Zohar references don’t have letters
in them, like Talmud references do.) I could find no passage in Zohar
about deceiving Christians. In fact, the Zohar considered any deceit
(no matter to whom it was directed) to be wrong.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html#9
The compilers of this list clearly had an agenda to push, and were not
hesitant to lie and misrepresent in order to push it. It is similar to
lists other groups have put forth to try and discredit the Jews or
others, and end up showing themselves to be foolish instead.
http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/kkk.html
Deborah
Warhol
> >>>Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> >On Jul 30, 12:01 pm, dsharavi wrote:
> >>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> [massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
>
But, but, but.....Deborah is so dumb that he has to notice each of
such posts.
WOW.... Now, which community has the largest number of porn actors/
actresses aka idiots other than jews - in the world...
Your Yids brain must have dropped lower than it was between the legs.
Israel has robbed US taxpayers' of over US$3,000 billion; West German
US$80 billion; Swiss Banks of US$7 billion; Wall Street of over US$560
billion and even PA of US$500 million. But you know the Zionazi thugs
did not spend a penny of that money on arms purchasement - they just
gave all that money Evangelists and Jewish prostitutes around the
world.
Truth speakers are always a few - but that doesn't make truth "racism"
- but then I am no authority on your Talmud either.
PS What's your definition of a "jew", Cunt?
More than 95% of current jews are childrens of Khazarian Turk
barbarians and have nothing to do with the 12 Tribes of Yacub - thus
they're not even Semites.
The yids of any Western country - are same Khazarian pigs.
dsharavi
>
> > >On Jul 30, 12:01 pm, dsharavi wrote:
> > >>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> On Jul 30, 5:43 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > [massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
>
[more massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
> But, but, but.....Deborah is so dumb that he has to notice each of
> such posts.
The links to each quote were provided as is customary, even though
it's a given that antisemites like Warthog are as incapable of
reading the facts as they are of inventing their own propaganda.
Hence, Warthog's massive snippage, and pasting of more antisemitic
lies.
> Truth speakers are always a few - but that doesn't make truth "racism"
Truth speakers are indeed few, and Warthog and his gang aren't among
them.
> - but then I am no authority on your Talmud either.
That is obvious.
>
> PS What's your definition of a "jew", Cunt?
And that's the highest level of debate to which Warthog and his ilk
are capable of rising.
Deborah
Warhol
Hah ... "antisemites"...
I Am a true Semite you fake yid-wish cunt...
Est 8:17 And in every province and in every city, wherever the king's
command and his decree came, the Jews had gladness and joy, a feast
and a holiday. And many from among the peoples of the land [submitted
themselves to Jewish rite and] "became" Jews, for the fear of the Jews
had fallen upon them.
IOW they embraced the Ju'Dahb'Isme(Semite) religion.
They embraced the faith out of fear. This does not make them Semite.
In the love of Truth...
you fake Ieou - Ieu - Jeu - Jew yids ain't even Semitic... Bastards,
Damned Mongols.....all of the Ieou - Ieu - Jeu - Jew yids... they are
determined to turn the entire world into a Super Holojoke State.
The word Jew is not found in the original texts of the Scriptures, but
in many English Bibles the word is an incorrect rendering of the latin
word Judaeus, the Greek word Ioudaios, and the Hebrew word Yehudi.
Although not found in either the Hebrew or the Greek Scriptures, the
word Jew is an English rendering most often incorrectly translated
from the word Yahudah, that is, referring to one belonging to one of
the tribes of Israel (Yisrael) called Yahudah (Judah), a
Yahudite....The letter 'J' was not in general use until after the 17th
century as used in many Bibles for the word 'Jew' to substitute for
the correct word Yahudite, or Yahudim.
...Modern Jew-dah-ism is not the Scriptural worship system of the
Yahudim (of the tribe of Yahu'dahbi) of the Scriptures.
...Jew-dah-ism is strongly Anti-Christian.
The term 'Jew', has come to be used synonymous with the term 'Israel,
or Israelite', however, this is error. Scriptural Israelites, the
collective 12 tribes ofYacub/Israel were never called Jews. Most
modern Jews are not of the tribe of Yahu'dah'bi (Judah), and are not
'Israelites.' They are called Jew(s) because of their religion, Jew-
dah-ism. Jew-dah-ism has fooled may Christians into thinking that it
is a continuance of the Scriptural worship system of Yacub/Israel,
because it sounds like it is associated with the Yahudim of the
Scriptures, but it is not.
I the Moor of L'AndaLUZ(Land of Light)... I AM true Semitic and a
descendant of Ha'Shem of the Light Land(Yahu'dah'bi)... "Shem is also
pronounced Sem (Semites) or Ha'San."
Iber-ia is the "land of Iber." Based on what we now know, we can
easily
see that "Iber" is almost identical with "Eber" or "Heber"--that is,
"Hebrew," which sounds very close to "Ibheriu," the ancient name of
Ireland (Heb. Ivri = ancient Gaelic Iveriu).
So Eber means Hebrew and Eberia or Iberia means Land of the Hebrews
Let say the Star of the land of Light(L'Anda LUZ)will point us to who
is Who... But believe me that AshkeNAZI and the Sephardi are of their
Father, the sheitan/Devil.
since your roots is found in MONGOLIA the Synagogue of
Shaitan..... and NOT in IBERIA where the reel Hebrews have LIVED...
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8908/khazaria.gif
The Khazars were a tribe of horse thieves from Khazakstan in Central
Asia,
who converted to Judah en masses
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4632/khazarstar.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2100/800pxgengiskhanempireen.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg
A reel descendant of the Hebrews should look like this...
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4609/poseidon.jpg
And those who carried the Sacred Star of my Gran'Da'Dy... The
Berbers
The Flags of the true Hebrews
http://www.bonaventure.org.uk/ed/FlagBarbarossaPhoto.jpg
http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/m/ma_39k.gif
http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/m/ma_39g.gif
http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/m/ma~es1.gif
The coins of the true Hebrews.
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1329morocco1911tendirhamsobv240.JPG
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1329morocco1911tendirhamsrev240.JPG
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1313morocco18941895silverdirhamobv240.JPG
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1313morocco18941895silverdirhamrev240.JPG
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1331morocco19111912tendirhamsobv240.JPG
One meaning of "SALLEE"; Shelah/Salah; in hebrew/Iberian, in the
time of Plato, was "to bear, to lift up".
Example from the Torah: But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my
glory, and the lifter up of mine head.
Sallee Rovers Flag...
http://www.bonaventure.org.uk/ed/FlagBarbarossaPhoto.jpg
Yids nobody aint going to lift you up nowhere... But we the ol Fashion
Pirates of Barbary shall send you and your followers to Hell, with
that old Pirate Plank of my beloved ancestors.
Alexander
Actually due to Jew corruption, they have better opportunities then
those that have earned their way. Why is it, that wherever a Jew
travels..there is left a wide trail of mass corruption? This has been so
since the very first impregnation of Abraham's bitchy very old wife.
American Eagle
>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
> They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
> Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
> authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
> an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
>
> The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
> hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
> of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
> tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
> prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
> the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
> of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
>
> Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
> Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
> style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
> years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
> day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
> newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
> very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
> novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
> Mishna.
>
> While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
> more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
> scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
> Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
> people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
> merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
> accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
> and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
> direction which it still takes.
>
> Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
> by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
> father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
> present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
> the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
> legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
> tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
> This is the Gemara, the Completion.
>
> burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
> like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
> world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
> continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
> whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
> last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
> unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
> of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
> So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
> two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
> - H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> 174-181
> legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
> authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
> faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
>
> The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
> life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
> with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
> glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
> conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
> judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
> lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
> zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
> weighed over many generations.
>
> This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
>
> The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
> weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
> variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
> of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
> but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
> to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
> vitality.
> - H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> 174-181
>
> Deborah
This is a very good descriptive history. But it still doesn't resolve
the fact that the Talmud is racist, bigoted, and targets Gentiles as
slaves and animals for use by the Jews.
Majd al-Din
>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>> On Jul 30, 12:01 pm, dsharavi wrote:
>>> The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> [massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
>
> On Jul 30, 7:29 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> You want specific references to portions of the Talmud?
>
> Asking Warthog for information on the Talmud is like asking Paris
> Hilton to write a dissertation on advanced nuclear physics.
Then obviously Paris Hilton is a budding genius.
It truly amazes me, how far you Jews will go to cover your very ugly
past and present despotic actions.
dsharavi
> dsharavi wrote:
> >> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> > The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> > To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
> > They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
> > Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
> > authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
> > an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
>
> > The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
> > hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
> > of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
> > tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
> > prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
> > the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
> > of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
>
> > Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
> > Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
> > style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
> > years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
> > day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
> > newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
> > very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
> > novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
> > Mishna.
>
> > While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
> > more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
> > scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
> > Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
> > people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
> > merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
> > accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
> > and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
> > direction which it still takes.
>
> > Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
> > by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
> > father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
> > present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
> > the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
> > legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
> > tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
> > This is the Gemara, the Completion.
>
> > burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
> > like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
> > world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
> > continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
> > whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
> > last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
> > unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
> > of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
> > So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
> > two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
> > - H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> > 174-181
> > legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
> > authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
> > faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
>
> > The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
> > life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
> > with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
> > glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
> > conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
> > judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
> > lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
> > zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
> > weighed over many generations.
>
> > This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
>
> > The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
> > weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
> > variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
> > of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
> > but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
> > to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
> > vitality.
> > - H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> > 174-181
>
> > Deborah
>
> This is a very good descriptive history. But it still doesn't resolve
> the fact that the Talmud is racist, bigoted, and targets Gentiles as
> slaves and animals for use by the Jews.
Sorry to disillusion you, but it doesn't.
"The first man, Adam, [was] created alone, to teach us that whoever
destroys a single life, the Bible considers it as if he destroyed an
entire world. And whoever saves a single life, the Bible considers it
as if he saved an entire world. Furthermore, only one man, Adam, was
created for the sake of peace among men, so that no one should say to
his fellow, 'My father was greater than yours.'"
"Man [was created singly] to show the greatness of the Holy One,
Blessed be He, for if a man strikes many coins from one mold, they all
resemble one another, but the King of Kings, the Holy One, Blessed be
He, made each man in the image of Adam, and yet not one of them
resembles his fellow. Therefore every single person is obligated to
say, 'The world was created for my sake."'
Mishnah Sanhedrin 4,5
"A gentile who studies Torah is equal to a High Priest.”
BT Baba Kama 38a
"The righteous of all nations [goyim[ have a share in the World to
Come."
BT Sanhedrin 105a
Deborah
dsharavi
> >> On Jul 30, 12:01 pm, dsharavi wrote:
> >>> The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>
> > [massive snippage of facts by Warthog]
>
> > On Jul 30, 7:29 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >> You want specific references to portions of the Talmud?
>
> > Asking Warthog for information on the Talmud is like asking Paris
> > Hilton to write a dissertation on advanced nuclear physics.
>
> Then obviously Paris Hilton is a budding genius.
>
> It truly amazes me, how far you Jews will go to cover your very ugly
> past and present despotic actions.
What is truly amazing is the ignorance of antisemites, and their
unwillingness to rectify it.
Deborah
Warhol
You wanna raise an eyebrow, you're gonna have to do a hell of a lot
better than that...
I am very careful to what I write and I give sources for everything!!!
It is me who always says that Truth has nothing to fear from research
and questions!!!
I respect everyone and I feel nice when I see people with different
beliefs than mine respect me too!!!
Only you dumb yids (with ZERO credibility...) here are attacking me...
You are a typical anti semites disinformationist. Projecting your
hatred of others as something others are doing to you.
those who call themselves "God's Chosen" ( and are of the synagogue of
Satan) are indeed of this line, they even usurped the "O.T." and
claimed it as their own. The truth hurts you huh ? Is that why you
(yids) have to resort to name calling and abuse to distract readers
from the facts.
That sort of behaviour is exactly what "the Protocols" call for.
http://i44.tinypic.com/vy875x.jpg
OK then ..... there's my posts ...... detailing why Judaism is a
"Fake" religion for the express purpose of deceiving others ......
what's your response ??
Warhol
What is there to understand in the Talmud for a learned and honest
Christian - except it teached Jews to spit on the Cross; call Christ
"an Imposter" and Holy Mary "a prostitute" (sic Talmudic bastards).
Poor Deborah , her mind is so malleable , she will believe anything
that promises her power and control ...... Freud would have had a
field day with your brain ......
But ......
he would probably have to call it quits at Morning Tea ..... due to a
lack of material ..... (laffin real hard here )
Patrick Keenan
"American Eagle" <A...@USA.com> wrote in message
Except , of course, for the fact that it doesn't. As is made clear by the
texts themselves.
As you would know if you had any familiarity with the actual texts, and
didn't mistake fabrications and forgeries for the real thing.
Hope this helps.
-pk
dsharavi
>>>>Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
>>>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
>>> To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
>>>They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
>>>Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
>>>authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
>>>an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
>>> The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
>>>hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
>>>of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
>>>tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
>>>prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
>>>the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
>>>of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
>>> Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
>>>Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
>>>style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
>>>years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
>>>day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
>>>newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
>>>very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
>>>novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
>>>Mishna.
>>> While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
>>>more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
>>>scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
>>>Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
>>>people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
>>>merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
>>>accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
>>>and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
>>>direction which it still takes.
>>> Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
>>>by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
>>>father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
>>>present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
>>>the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
>>>legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
>>>tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
>>>This is the Gemara, the Completion.
>>>burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
>>>like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
>>>world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
>>>continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
>>>whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
>>>last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
>>>unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
>>>of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
>>>So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
>>>two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
>>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
>>>174-181
>>>legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
>>>authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
>>>faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
>>> The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
>>>life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
>>>with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
>>>glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
>>>conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
>>>judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
>>>lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
>>>zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
>>>weighed over many generations.
>>> This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
>
>>>The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
>>>weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
>>>variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
>>>of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
>>>but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
>>>to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
>>>vitality.
>>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
>>>174-181
>>>Deborah
>
>"American Eagle" <A...@USA.com>wrote
>>This is a very good descriptive history. But it still doesn't resolve the
>>fact that the Talmud is racist, bigoted, and targets Gentiles as
>>slaves and animals for use by the Jews.
>
>Except , of course, for the fact that it doesn't. As is made clear by the
>texts themselves.
>
>As you would know if you had any familiarity with the actual texts, and
>didn't mistake fabrications and forgeries for the real thing.
>Hope this helps.
>-pk
I doubt it will help anyone who's mind is already made up, and closed.
The following quotes from the Talmud certainly failed to sink in:
Warhol
> Mishnah Sanhedrin 4,5
>
> "A gentile who studies Torah is equal to a High Priest.”
> BT Baba Kama 38a
>
> "The righteous of all nations [goyim[ have a share in the World to
> Come."
> BT Sanhedrin 105a
>
> Deborah
Here is more on from where these Zionazi pigs get their hatred for
Arabs...
"To this day, the Jews continue to teach their Christ-hatred from
their Talmud, to teach their children that Jesus Christ was an
impostor and not the Son of God and not the true Christ. So the Jews
began to teach the doctrine that Christ was yet to come and they began
to tell the Christians that when Christ was to come to set up the
materialistic, futuristic, plutocratic kingdom they claimed they, the
Jews, were all going to repent and because they are such special God-
chosen people, even though Christ described them as being living,
breathing devils of their father the devil, they were all going to get
to reign with Christ over the white goyim from Jerusalem for a full
thousand years. Moreover, their Talmudic, Zionistic materialism of
their real bible the Talmud, which they hold to have more authority
than the Pentateuch as it is supposedly based upon the traditions of
the elders which is yet another Jewish lie, and teaches the Jew that
all that he can victimize and steal from the stupid goyim in this life
will once again be his in the millennium when he is resurrected or
reincarnated in his Jewish world order. They are also taught to never
tell the stupid goyim as to what they really believe of think." -
Pastor V.S. Herrel, Christian Separatist Epiphanological and
Eschatological Teachings, p. 26
Patrick Keenan
"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42a872d2-42d6-46da...@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 31, 5:02 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>dsharavi wrote:
> >>>>Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> >>>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
> >>> To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
> >>>They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
> >>>Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
> >>>authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
> >>>an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
> >>> The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
> >>>hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
> >>>of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
> >>>tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
> >>>prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
> >>>the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
> >>>of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
> >>> Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
> >>>Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
> >>>style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
> >>>years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
> >>>day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
> >>>newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
> >>>very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
> >>>novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
> >>>Mishna.
> >>> While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
> >>>more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
> >>>scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
> >>>Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
> >>>people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
> >>>merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
> >>>accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
> >>>and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
> >>>direction which it still takes.
> >>> Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
> >>>by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
> >>>father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
> >>>present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
> >>>the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
> >>>legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
> >>>tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
> >>>This is the Gemara, the Completion.
> >>>burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
> >>>like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
> >>>world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
> >>>continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
> >>>whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
> >>>last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
> >>>unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
> >>>of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
> >>>So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
> >>>two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
> >>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> >>>174-181
> >>>legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
> >>>authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
> >>>faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
> >>> The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
> >>>life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
> >>>with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
> >>>glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
> >>>conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
> >>>judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
> >>>lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
> >>>zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
> >>>weighed over many generations.
> >>> This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
>
> >>>The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
> >>>weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
> >>>variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
> >>>of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
> >>>but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
> >>>to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
> >>>vitality.
> >>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> >>>174-181
> >>>Deborah
>
> >"American Eagle" <A...@USA.com>wrote
> >>This is a very good descriptive history. But it still doesn't resolve
> >>the
> >>fact that the Talmud is racist, bigoted, and targets Gentiles as
> >>slaves and animals for use by the Jews.
>
> On Jul 31, 7:42 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>wrote:
>
> >Except , of course, for the fact that it doesn't. As is made clear by the
> >texts themselves.
>
> >As you would know if you had any familiarity with the actual texts, and
> >didn't mistake fabrications and forgeries for the real thing.
> >Hope this helps.
> >-pk
>
> I doubt it will help anyone who's mind is already made up, and closed.
> The following quotes from the Talmud certainly failed to sink in:
> 'The world was created for my sake."'
> Mishnah Sanhedrin 4,5
>
> BT Baba Kama 38a
>
> "The righteous of all nations [goyim[ have a share in the World to
> Come."
> BT Sanhedrin 105a
>
> Deborah
Here is more on from where these Zionazi pigs get their hatred for
Arabs...
"To this day, the Jews continue to teach their Christ-hatred from
their Talmud, <snippage>
==========
Not from the talmud and not about Arabs.
Majd al-Din
Soooo? you are criticizing our unwillingness to do a total extermination
of the Jewish threat? I do realize that your God demands total
destruction of all whom the Jews don't like. But Gentiles have a gentler
side then the Jews obviously have. This is born out by the eradication
of over 100 million gentile souls by the Jews in just the last 100
years. I am disgusted by your whining of a simple holocaust of Jews that
was an action by Germany as necessary for its survival. That Holocaust
was created by the action of the International Congress of Jews in that
era. I would have thought that you people would have learned something
from that. Yet you still conspire to bring down other nations and to
destroy their economic infrastructure for the benefit of Israel. Your
treatment of the Arabs(Palestinians) is indeed shameful and
unforgivable. You have reaped the whirlwind and now want America to
attack nonwarring nations for your benefit. Your inbred Israeli
Government sucks up our tax dollars and criticises our President for
looking out for American interests over that of ersatz Israel. You are
the most shameful people on earth. Your Talmud bears this out.
American Eagle
Patrick, Get your fat ass off the net..Order a copy of the Talmud and
fer petes sake..Get educated to the real truths in Jewish life.
Don't bother trying to retort until such time as you have read the whole
damned thing. Now toodle off and kiss some more Jew ass.
>
> As you would know if you had any familiarity with the actual texts, and
> didn't mistake fabrications and forgeries for the real thing.
Uh huh? I guess I made a mistake about you. I thought that you might
have an honest opinion and was not involved in Jew Propaganda programs.
My mistake.
>
> Hope this helps.
Trying to sabotage America and the rest of the nonJewish world is not a
help.
> -pk
>
Jewdas
How would you know, Patrick? You speak out of your ass. First..you have
never even seen a Talmud and second you have never even seen an Arab.
>
Stewart
"Jewdas" <Jew...@circumcision.com> wrote in message
news:7da1e0F...@mid.individual.net...
> Stewart wrote:
>> "American Eagle" <A...@USA.com> wrote in message
>>> BDK wrote:
>>>> In article <7d4a37F...@mid.individual.net>, A...@USA.com
>>>> says...
>>>>> dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 8:25 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>>>>>> Indeed. And there are no facts in Warthog's lastest pasting of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> tripe.
>>>>> Just the fact that you are posting proves he is correct.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, sure it does..BWHAHAHAHAHA! You and Wormhole avaid facts
>>>> almost as much as you avoid sanity.
>>> Obviously I hit a nerve or you wouldn't be going into full
>>> meltdown with this misspelled diatribe. ;-p Or is that Idiot
>>> speak? You really should try to post in American, as this is an
>>> American newsgroup.
>>
>> This is not an American only newsgroup. Besides, you are not an
>> American....
>
>
> I guess the WTC is located in upper Siberia?
>>
This group (alt.terrorism.world-trade-center) is distributed world
wide and open to all to freely comment. As well, the intended subject
matter has world wide ramifications (never mind that your subject
matter is not on topic for the group your are alluding to).
You also forget that you have also copied 3 other newsgroups that are
not specific to the WTC (nor is your subject matter pertinent to these
groups).
So, none of the newsgroups you have targeted (with your off topic
commentary) are "American" groups, and posts from upper Siberia are
welcome to all of them.
So, what the fuck are you whining about?
>>
Abraham
"Stewart" <stew...@american.org> wrote in message
news:h51sis$20p$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Well put, Stewart.
>
Isaiah
"Stewart" <stew...@american.org> wrote in message
news:h51sis$20p$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
A rather sound thrashing of the ignorant and festering postule.
Couldn't have put it any better myself.........
>>>
>
>
Warhol
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42a872d2-42d6-46da...@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 5:02 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >>dsharavi wrote:
> > >>>>Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
>
> > >>>The Talmud: 3. WHAT THE TALMUD IS
> > >>> To begin with, the Talmud is not one book, but two books run together.
> > >>>They are the Mishna and the Gemara, a pair of very old classics of
> > >>>Jewish law, some three hundred years apart in time. Both books have
> > >>>authors, in the sense that we know who wrote them. But neither one is
> > >>>an original work. Both are compendiums of law.
> > >>> The Mishna is a report of the legal decisions of a line of analysts
> > >>>hundred years. Out of the mists that shroud Jewish history after the
> > >>>of jurists, the Men of the Great Synagogue, who in turn relayed the
> > >>>tradition across the wastes of time from the failing hands of the
> > >>>prophets. The Tanna period falls in two centuries before and two after
> > >>>the start of the Christian era. Rabbi Judah the Prince, a wealthy sage
> > >>>of Palestine, compiled the Mishna (the Review) about the year 200.
> > >>> Seldom has one work so swiftly and wholly captured a nation. With the
> > >>>Mishna, the Old Testament era in Hebrew ended. Rabbi Judah set the
> > >>>style for all composition in the language after him. Seventeen hundred
> > >>>years later, Hebrew is still Mishna Hebrew. Learned journals to this
> > >>>day use no other. The popular Hebrew in Israel, the language of
> > >>>newspapers, radio programmes, and daily conversation, is of course
> > >>>very westernized. But I have been told by a successful Israeli
> > >>>novelist that for him the secret of good modern style is still in the
> > >>>Mishna.
> > >>> While the Mishna purports to be nothing but jurisprudence, it is much
> > >>>more. With a sentence or a phrase, it can magically bring to life a
> > >>>scene in the Second Temple, a festival night in the streets of
> > >>>Jerusalem, the manners, the morals, the philosophy, the costumes of
> > >>>people dead two thousand years. I suppose there is no literary intent,
> > >>>merely writing down a lore rubbed smooth by generations. But in his
> > >>>accuracy and clarity he achieved immortality within his own people,
> > >>>and he set the course of the hoary Old Testament language in a new
> > >>>direction which it still takes.
> > >>> Through several more centuries a second great line of sages, the
> > >>>by line within academies, and between national settlements, and from
> > >>>father to son to grandson. That is how the Talmud came to take its
> > >>>present form. We have four or five sentences of Mishna, laying down
> > >>>the law. Then follows perhaps a page, perhaps twenty pages, of close
> > >>>legal analysis, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which can branch off into
> > >>>tales, poems, prayers, history, reminiscence, science, or table-talk.
> > >>>This is the Gemara, the Completion.
> > >>>burden each decade. Towards the end, the task must have become about
> > >>>like memorizing the Encyclopaedia Britannica. At this time the Roman
> > >>>world was breaking up. Mediterranean life was a swirl of wars. The
> > >>>continuity of Jewish communications, and therefore the life of the
> > >>>whole nation-in-exile, was in peril. Rav Ashi and Ravina, two of the
> > >>>last Commenters, broke with a firm tradition of keeping the Gemara an
> > >>>unwritten body of learning. They recorded everything they remembered
> > >>>of centuries of Jewish debate on the Hebrew Bible and on the Mishna.
> > >>>So they created the Talmud which fourteen centuries later -- thirty-
> > >>>two years ago -- my grandfather sat me down to start learning.
> > >>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> > >>>174-181
> > >>>legal literature it seems clear that the centre of gravity of
> > >>>authority is fixed in the Mishna and the Gemara; just as the final
> > >>>faith of the Jews is fixed in the Torah.
> > >>> The Talmud is very alive, precisely because it was memorized from
> > >>>life. It has the fascination of court proceedings, or of talk
> > >>>with the rapid-fire logic of able men thrashing out big issues. It
> > >>>glances off into the colourful reminiscences of travelers, the
> > >>>conversation of scientists and wise men, the strange experiences of
> > >>>judges, the tales, anecdotes, and parables of scholars enjoying
> > >>>lighter moments between grave disputes. And though the course seems
> > >>>zigzag and undisciplined, it is all pretty tight. Every word has been
> > >>>weighed over many generations.
> > >>> This, then in the briefest skimming outline, is the Talmud.
>
> > >>>The texts of the Talmud and of its commentaries bear deep marks of the
> > >>>weathering of the centuries. There are hundreds and hundreds of
> > >>>variant readings. Some passages have been eroded by time, the errors
> > >>>of copyists, and the faults of printers, to an indecipherable state;
> > >>>but these are few. On the whole, the abstruse law debates have managed
> > >>>to last out the years and come down to us, still filled with
> > >>>vitality.
> > >>>- H. Wouk, This is My God (1959, 1970, 1973), Part III: The Law, pp
> > >>>174-181
> > >>>Deborah
>
> > >"American Eagle" <A...@USA.com>wrote
> > >>This is a very good descriptive history. But it still doesn't resolve
> > >>the
> > >>fact that the Talmud is racist, bigoted, and targets Gentiles as
> > >>slaves and animals for use by the Jews.
>
> > On Jul 31, 7:42 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>wrote:
>
> > >Except , of course, for the fact that it doesn't. As is made clear by the
> > >texts themselves.
>
> > >As you would know if you had any familiarity with the actual texts, and
> > >didn't mistake fabrications and forgeries for the real thing.
> > >Hope this helps.
> > >-pk
>
> > I doubt it will help anyone who's mind is already made up, and closed.
> > The following quotes from the Talmud certainly failed to sink in:
> > 'The world was created for my sake."'
> > Mishnah Sanhedrin 4,5
>
> > BT Baba Kama 38a
>
> > "The righteous of all nations [goyim[ have a share in the World to
> > Come."
> > BT Sanhedrin 105a
>
> > Deborah
>
> Here is more on from where these Zionazi pigs get their hatred for
> Arabs...
>
> "To this day, the Jews continue to teach their Christ-hatred from
> their Talmud, <snippage>
>
> ==========
>
> Not from the talmud and not about Arabs.
Did I hit that nerve again... oeps...
The centrality of the Holocaust in Jewish consciousness caused the
Jews to insist its absolute exclusiveness. We are shocked and furious
when somebody tries to remind us that the Nazis exterminated other
communities too, such as the Roma, the homosexuals, the mentally ill.
We get very angry when somebody comes and compares “our” Holocaust
with other genocides: Cambodian, Armenien, Tutsis in Rawanda and
others. Really! How one can compare? - Uri Avnery in ‘Memory of the
Holocaust’.
"No matter what you do with your life, it's not going to end well"
Gran'Da'Dy
Jewdas
The off topic and crossposting is yours, you jackass. Good manners, of
which you obviously have none dictates posting to interested NG's. This
one is not one of those.
>
> So, none of the newsgroups you have targeted (with your off topic
> commentary) are "American" groups, and posts from upper Siberia are
> welcome to all of them.
I wonder why they are all located on the main servers in America, you
inbred moron.
>
> So, what the fuck are you whining about?
Whining? You are this groups butt monkey! I was merely trying to shoo
you away from public and sexual abuse. You go right ahead servicing one
and all.
>
>
>