Re: Pat Buchanan: No, This Is Not 'Our War'
Protagonist
These are the people running this country and die for Israel.
I've been watching the cable news channels, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc...,
they're all pro-Israel.
News announcers, as I cross refrence their bio, most are Jewish or half Jew.
So, think about it, every time you watch cable news, America listens to
the Jewish version of the News.
JS
127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
>
> World Net Daily | July 20, 2006
>
> My country has been "torn to shreds," said Fouad Siniora, the prime minister
> of Lebanon, as the death toll among his people passed 300 civilian dead,
> 1,000 wounded, with half a million homeless.
>
> Israel must pay for the "barbaric destruction," said Siniora.
>
> To the contrary, says columnist Lawrence Kudlow, "Israel is doing the Lord's
> work."
>
> On American TV, former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu says the
> ruination of Lebanon is Hezbollah's doing. But is it Hezbollah that is
> using U.S.-built F-16s, with precision-guided bombs and 155-mm artillery
> pieces to wreak death and devastation on Lebanon?
>
> No, Israel is doing this, with the blessing and without a peep of protest
> from President Bush. And we wonder why they hate us.
>
> "Today, we are all Israelis!" brayed Ken Mehlman of the Republican National
> Committee to a gathering of Christians United for Israel.
>
> One wonders if these Christians care about what is happening to our
> Christian brethren in Lebanon and Gaza, who have had all power cut off by
> Israeli airstrikes, an outlawed form of collective punishment, that has
> left them with no sanitation, rotting food, impure water and days without
> light or electricity in the horrible heat of July.
>
> When summer power outrages occur in America, it means a rising rate of death
> among our sick and elderly, and women and infants. One can only imagine
> what a hell it must be today in Gaza City and Beirut.
>
> But all this carnage and destruction has only piqued the blood lust of the
> hairy-chested warriors at the Weekly Standard. In a signed editorial, "It's
> Our War," William Kristol calls for America to play her rightful role in
> this war by "countering this act of aggression by Iran with a military
> strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. Why wait?"
>
> "Why wait?" Well, one reason is that the United States has not been
> attacked. A second is a small thing called the Constitution. Where does
> George W. Bush get the authority to launch a war on Iran? When did Congress
> declare war or authorize a war on Iran?
>
> Answer: It never did. But these neoconservatives care no more about the
> Constitution than they cared about the truth when they lied into war in
> Iraq.
>
> "Why wait?" How about thinking of the fate of those 25,000 Americans in
> Lebanon if we launch an unprovoked war on Iran. How many would wind up dead
> or hostages of Hezbollah if Iran gave the order to retaliate for the
> slaughter of their citizens by U.S. bombs? What would happen to the 130,000
> U.S. troops in Iraq, if Shiites and Iranian "volunteers" joined forces to
> exact revenge on our soldiers?
>
> What about America? Richard Armitage, who did four tours in Nam and knows a
> bit about war, says that, in its ability to attack Western targets,
> al-Qaida is the B Team, Hezbollah the A Team. If Bush bombs Iran, what
> prevents Hezbollah from launching retaliatory attacks inside the United
> States?
>
> None of this is written in defense of Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran.
>
> But none of them has attacked our country, nor has Syria, whom Bush I made
> an ally in the Gulf War and to whom the most decorated soldier in Israeli
> history, Ehud Barak, offered 99 percent of the Golan Heights. If Nixon,
> Bush I and Clinton could deal with Hafez al-Assad, a tougher customer than
> son Bashar, what is the matter with George W. Bush?
>
> The last superpower is impotent in this war because we have allowed Israel
> to dictate to whom we may and may not talk. Thus, Bush winds up cussing in
> frustration in St. Petersburg that somebody should tell the Syrians to stop
> it. Why not pick up the phone, Mr. President?
>
> What is Kristol's moral and legal ground for a war on Iran? It is
> the "Iranian act of aggression" against Israel and that Iran is on the road
> to nuclear weapons ? and we can't have that.
>
> But there is no evidence Iran has any tighter control over Hezbollah than we
> have over Israel, whose response to the capture of two soldiers had all the
> spontaneity of the Schlieffen Plan. And, again, Hezbollah attacked Israel,
> not us. And there is no solid proof Iran is in violation of the nuclear
> Non-Proliferation Treaty, which it has signed, but Israel refuses to sign.
>
> If Iran's nuclear program justifies war, why cannot the neocons make that
> case in the constitutional way, instead of prodding Bush to launch a Pearl
> Harbor attack? Do they fear they have no credibility left after pushing
> Bush into this bloody quagmire in Iraq that has cost almost 2,600 dead and
> 18,000 wounded Americans?
>
> No, Kenny boy, we are not "all Israelis." Some of us still think of
> ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
>
> And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
> http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
Emil Müller
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Hunker Down With History
By Richard Cohen
Tuesday, July 18, 2006; Page A19
The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that
Israel itself is a mistake. It is an honest mistake, a well-intentioned
mistake, a mistake for which no one is culpable, but the idea of creating a
nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has
produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now.
Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most
formidable enemy is history itself.
This is why the Israeli-Arab war, now transformed into the Israeli-Muslim
war (Iran is not an Arab state), persists and widens. It is why the conflict
mutates and festers. It is why Israel is now fighting an organization,
Hezbollah, that did not exist 30 years ago and why Hezbollah is being
supported by a nation, Iran, that was once a tacit ally of Israel's. The
underlying, subterranean hatred of the Jewish state in the Islamic world
just keeps bubbling to the surface. The leaders of Saudi Arabia, Egypt,
Jordan and some other Arab countries may condemn Hezbollah, but I doubt the
proverbial man in their street shares that view.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/17/AR2006071701154.html?sub=new
Emil
lora...@cs.com
> Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
> ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
>
> And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
> http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
Once again Buchanan makes excellent sense.
Why can't we have sane foreign policy?
Just a few months ago when Lebabon expelled the last of the Syrian
troops from Lebanon the US administration applauded the Lebanese
government, hailing its democratic will.
But now.. just a few months later we see the US administration vetoing
a cease-fire which would stop the chaos engulfing Lebanon.
Well..so much for any US administration praise or consistency.
Now the Israeliis are massing troops on the border to invade
(democratic) Lebanon, while the Lebanese are saying that they will
commit their (ill-equipped) 50,000 man army to defend Lebanese
sovereignty if pushed to do so.
This indeed is not the US's fight.
Now we just need to know just why the US administration is using Bolton
at the UN to veto the opportunity for peace in other people's
countries.
I have never seen such dangerous games ever before.
Ben Cramer
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> 127.0.0.1 wrote:
>> Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
>> No, Kenny boy, we are not "all Israelis." Some of us still think of
>> ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
>>
>> And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
>> http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
>
> Once again Buchanan makes excellent sense.
> Why can't we have sane foreign policy?
Because it's the yid infested neo-cons who are making your foreign policy.
slip_i...@yahoo.com
>
> Because it's the yid infested neo-cons who are making your foreign policy.
Why is because of the Holocaust Industry.
The Holocaust debunkers have battled for many years trying to get that
off America's back.
Simple as that.
Americans have no problems with witch hunts.
Americans have no problems with McCarthy hearings to run out the
communists.
Some of us have battled the Jews for years.
At this point, all Americans now know Israel has enslaved our
government.
Many Republicans are HAPPY about America belonging to Israel.
Most of us are not happy about America taking orders from Tel Aviv.
Can we run the Israelis out of our government?
Normally we would do it no problem.
But we can't.
The Holohoax Industry is too powerful.
I worded my post up till now, to PERFECTLY make my ending point.
How many readers ALREADY plunged into their mind control programming?
Were ALREADY mind-blind with thoughts of 'Nazi' 'Anti-semite'
EXACTLY.
That is America at this moment.
Most Americans are CONDITIONED to believe: freeing America from being
ruled by Israel is a Nazi anti-semite act.
I am fine with that.
The PRICE OF AMERICA is being called a Nazi by FOREIGN JEWS and their
TRAITOR SERVANTS AMONG US????
That is the 'big' threat'?
lol
CALL ME A NAZI! I want my fucking country back.
That is no price at all.
Patriots for America have been getting bashed with the terrorism of
Anti-semitism for years.
Sticks and stones.
America should not be owned and operated by Israel. BUT IT IS.
All Israelis know it.
All Americans know it.
It has come to that.
If you know Israel is running America, you are already called an
anti-Semite.
If you argue Israel is not running America, you are ALREADY A
PRO-ISRAELI who loves Israel more than America, and while you suggest
America does not take orders from Israel, we ask you, "HAVE YOU EVER
TOLD ISRAEL NO NO NO NO NO about anything?"
They answer, "FUCK NO! I have never told Israel no. We take orders from
them."
cyr...@yahoo.com
slip_i...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bunch of muslim loving morons having a circle jerk in this thread.
All you fuckwits are infidel scum, and you will be slaughtered like
livestock by the takfiri, regardless of how much muslim ass you kiss.
slip_i...@yahoo.com
cyra...@yahoo.com wrote: that he likes Pissraeli semen show all over
his face. That he crawls around on all fours begging Pissraelis to let
him use his mouth to pleasure them.
Only they kick him in the face, and he thanks them for the honor of
being kicked in the face; the touch of a Pissraeli is the highest honor
he has ever known.
Lots of Pissraelis being killed.
I LAUGH ABOUT EACH ONE.
I am SO HAPPY about their deaths.
I hope they were SLOW AND PAINFUL.
I laugh more when I think about how they will never have children or
grandchildren. All those generations for all time.
Each one of them is really a MILLION dead Pissraelis.
Fuck Pissrael.
I am American.
I have as much right to hate Pissrael as you have to hate France.
I have MORE RIGHT.
Pissrael is the enemy of America and the world while France is not
murdering civilians.
What were you mad about? France WAS RIGHT about not falling for the
PISSRAELI lies about Iraq?
Ben Cramer
<slip_i...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Excellent observation.
>
Mike V.
posted :
>Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
Paul Craig Roberts (from the Reagan administration) agrees:
Paul Craig Roberts:
'Attention deficit Americans are being misled to war'
A terrible thing is happening, and not enough Americans are aware to
be able to do anything about it. Zionists in Israel and in the Bush
administration are leading America into war with Iran, Syria,
Hizbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine. The consequences for
America, Israel and the Middle East will be disastrous, but as long as
Washington is in thrall to Zionist paranoia, nothing can be done about
it. Bush made this clear on July 14 when he rejected the plea from
Lebanon's prime minister to pressure Israel to stop its attack on
Lebanon.
The war began when Bush's neoconservative government invaded
Afghanistan and Iraq under the pretense of "fighting terrorism."
Neither front has gone well for America. The Israelis, seeing the
growing domestic opposition to Bush's wars of choice, concluded that
they are in danger of losing America's military intervention in behalf
of their Middle East interests. Israel decided to force the issue.
Israel did this by bombing and invading Gaza, from which they had just
withdrawn as part of a "Palestinian settlement." Israel's pretext was
the capture of one Israeli soldier in Gaza in retribution for Israel's
genocidal policies toward Palestine. Few Americans know that Israel
has forced Palestinians into ghettos and walled them off from their
farm lands, schools, and medical treatment.
By slaughtering scores of civilians and destroying the infrastructure
of the fragile land in response to the capture of one Israeli soldier,
Israel has made it clear that its policy is fire and sword.
Under international law - the identical law that was used to try Nazi
war criminals after World War II - Israel's invasion of Gaza is a
monstrous war crime. The United Nations top humanitarian official, Jan
Egeland, said that Israel's attacks on civilians and infrastructure
violated international law.
On July 13, the UN Security Council tried to condemn Israel for its
criminal invasion of Gaza, but US Ambassador John Bolton, a rabid
pro-Israeli zealot, vetoed the Security Council resolution that would
have required Israel to halt its illegal and criminal actions in Gaza.
Bolton is the UN ambassador who could not get confirmed even in a
Republican Senate and was given a recess appointment by Bush in
defiance of Congress.
On July 12, Israel invaded Lebanon. The pretext was the capture of two
Israeli soldiers in Israeli-occupied Lebanese territory by Hizbollah.
In two days Israel has slaughtered scores of Lebanese civilians,
destroyed bridges and power plants, attacked the Beruit International
Airport and blocked Lebanese ports.
Israel's over-reactions are calculated to start a wider war. Israel
has asserted that the two soldiers captured by Hizbollah are being
held in Iran. Israel blames Syria for Hizbollah's acts. Both Israel
and its neoconsevative allies in the Bush government blame Iran and
Syria for "attacks on Israel" by Hamas and Hizbollah. No one, least of
all Bush, blames Israel's Palestinian policy.
Israel's American agents, the neoconservatives, have made it clear for
years that their goal is to eliminate every Middle Eastern government
that is not ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. The people
who hold the important positions in Bush's government have frankly
stated this position over and over. For example, a decade ago in 1996
a group of American neoconservatives who have comprised much of the
sub-cabinet in the Bush administration wrote that Israel could gain
American sympathy by blaming aggression on Hizbollah, Syria, and Iran
and then seizing the strategic initiative by "engaging Hizbollah,
Syria, and Iran as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon."
First, however, Iraq would have to be taken out. The first focus, said
the neocons, should be "on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq
- an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right."
Gentle reader, does it not strike you as strange that US citizens,
most of whom have held presidential appointments in the Bush
administration, are so concerned to plan how Israel can draw upon US
blood and treasure to achieve Israel's objectives in the Middle East?
We certainly have to hand it to Israel and its American neoconsevative
agents. They have succeeded on entirely false pretenses in launching
two wars in the Middle East and now they have prepared the ground for
a general conflagration.
Who is to stop them? The Condi Rice State Department? Be serious.
The Democratic Party? What a laugh!
The power mad Republicans who have sold their souls?
The Christian Evangelicals who believe the destruction of huge numbers
of people in the Middle East is the lead up to "the Rapture" in which
they will be wafted up to Heaven?
The UN Security Council, where the US never fails to veto any
resolution or sanction against Israel?
The US and Israel haven't the troops needed to defeat and occupy
Syria, Hizbollah and Iran with conventional forces. Pentagon documents
have described two ways in which the Middle East can be secured for
Israel. One is the use of nuclear weapons. The other is the
destruction of all infrastructure - power plants, water and sewage
systems, hospitals, schools, roads, bridges, ports, and a reduction of
much housing to rubble by powerful conventional bombs. In other words,
an air war that never ends.
Most Americans are incapable of identifying their own US
Representative and Senators. Everything they "know" about the Middle
East comes from Israeli propaganda: Israel is the innocent victim, and
all Arabs are terrorists with suicide bombs.
America is being led by a handful of traitors into participating in
"regime change" that might succeed or might dethrone our bought and
paid for puppets in Egypt, Pakistan, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. If
Pakistan were to fall to Islamist forces, Muslims would have a nuclear
capability as a counterpart to Israel's and America's.
Muslims have many reasons to hate us for generations of oppression and
interference in their internal affairs. As Iraq has proven, it is not
easy to break their spirit. Out-gunned and out-manned, they still
resist, motivated by anger and pride.
Many Americans may think that "ragheads" mean nothing to them. But
when $200 oil means Americans cannot commute to their jobs in their
gas-guzzlers from their far-flung suburbs, or Russia and China
intervene because American-Israeli interests conflict with their own,
the world becomes a different place for inattentive, uninvolved,
complicit Americans.
--
Dr. Roberts is John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political
Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a
former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and a former
assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury (under Reagan). He is the
co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
Waldo
> Look it the US-seal with the star of David on top of the eagle.
> These are the people running this country and die for Israel.
> I've been watching the cable news channels, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc...,
> they're all pro-Israel.
> News announcers, as I cross refrence their bio, most are Jewish or half Jew.
> So, think about it, every time you watch cable news, America listens to
> the Jewish version of the News.
> JS
Yesterday Rush Limbaugh mentioned on his radio program that he had been
delayed by traffic the previous evening while trying to cross through
the Lincoln Tunnel in his limo.
He also mentioned that WITH him in the limo were Charlie Rose of
"The Charlie Rose Show (PBS)
AND Roger Ailes, Chairman And Chief Executive Officer of Fox News.
http://www.newscorp.com/news/news_119.html
You figure the implications.
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
Protagonist
> Protagonist wrote:
>> Look it the US-seal with the star of David on top of the eagle.
>> These are the people running this country and die for Israel.
>> I've been watching the cable news channels, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc...,
>> they're all pro-Israel.
>> News announcers, as I cross refrence their bio, most are Jewish or half Jew.
>> So, think about it, every time you watch cable news, America listens to
>> the Jewish version of the News.
>> JS
>
>
> Yesterday Rush Limbaugh mentioned on his radio program that he had been
> delayed by traffic the previous evening while trying to cross through
> the Lincoln Tunnel in his limo.
>
> He also mentioned that WITH him in the limo were Charlie Rose of
> "The Charlie Rose Show (PBS)
>
> http://www.charlierose.com/
>
> AND Roger Ailes, Chairman And Chief Executive Officer of Fox News.
>
> http://www.newscorp.com/news/news_119.html
>
>
> You figure the implications.
>
> **
>
> Waldo
>
> Observer at Large
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/USSeal.png
JS
BlueOctopus
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LOL!!
Livestock?
Isn't that how some jews refer to non-jews.
You know the "goyim".
Problem is that Pat Buchanan is more in touch with American opinion than the
politicians in Washington.
I'm a progressive, aka liberal, and if he runs for Prez, he gets my vote.
mellstrrr
wrote:
>
> <cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> slip_i...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Bunch of muslim loving morons having a circle jerk in this thread.
>>
>> All you fuckwits are infidel scum, and you will be slaughtered like
>> livestock by the takfiri, regardless of how much muslim ass you kiss.
>>
>
> LOL!!
>
> Livestock?
> Isn't that how some jews refer to non-jews.
> You know the "goyim".
>
> Problem is that Pat Buchanan is more in touch with American opinion than
> the politicians in Washington.
Pat Buchanan used to be a major-league Republican suckup. I can't decide
if he's been turned into another useful idiot, or if he's for real, and
maybe just has an ace in the hole he hasn't played yet.
>
> I'm a progressive, aka liberal, and if he runs for Prez, he gets my vote.
IMHO, Buchanan is for real, and one day not too far in the future, he's
going to be "Wellstoned".
If he's not Wellstoned, however, he'll never get many 'votes', unless
Americans take a sledgehammer to "touch-screen voting" when they go to the
polls.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Click these links and scare the shit out of a shillfly:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://www.blackboxvoting.org
Al Smith
> delayed by traffic the previous evening while trying to cross through
> the Lincoln Tunnel in his limo.
>
> He also mentioned that WITH him in the limo were Charlie Rose of
> "The Charlie Rose Show (PBS)
I read this and I can't help thinking, it's tough to be rich and
famous. Imagine having to sit in traffic with Charlie Rose.
cyr...@yahoo.com
BlueOctopus wrote:
> <cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > slip_i...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > Bunch of muslim loving morons having a circle jerk in this thread.
> >
> > All you fuckwits are infidel scum, and you will be slaughtered like
> > livestock by the takfiri, regardless of how much muslim ass you kiss.
> >
>
> LOL!!
>
> Livestock?
Here's a link to huge selection of beheading videos released by various
islamic terrorist groups. Happy viewing!
BlueOctopus
<cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> BlueOctopus wrote:
>> <cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153550171....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > slip_i...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Bunch of muslim loving morons having a circle jerk in this thread.
>> >
>> > All you fuckwits are infidel scum, and you will be slaughtered like
>> > livestock by the takfiri, regardless of how much muslim ass you kiss.
>> >
> Here's a link to huge selection of beheading videos released by various
> islamic terrorist groups. Happy viewing!
LOL!!
BlueOctopus
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> BlueOctopus wrote:
>> <cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153729274.2...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > BlueOctopus wrote:
>> >> <cyr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1153550171....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > slip_i...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Bunch of muslim loving morons having a circle jerk in this thread.
>> >> >
>> >> > All you fuckwits are infidel scum, and you will be slaughtered like
>> >> > livestock by the takfiri, regardless of how much muslim ass you
>> >> > kiss.
>> >> >
>>
>> > Here's a link to huge selection of beheading videos released by various
>> > islamic terrorist groups. Happy viewing!
>>
>> LOL!!
>>
>> Livestock?
>> Isn't that how some jews refer to non-jews.
>> You know the "goyim".
>
> Muslim slime. They are both evil.
>
Thanks for your comment. I really mean it.
You're right.
There are absolutes in right & wrong.
It doesn't matter who does it, or why, some things are just wrong.
Ethnic Cleansing, bigotry, racism, and group punishment are a few.
The Nazis, and israelis used group punishement victimizing innocent people
when anyone attacked them.
Birds of a feather?
Sid9
Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization
127.0.0.1 wrote:
> ataturkey wrote:
>
>
>> Some of us prefer not to choose between terrorist Jew and terrorist
>> Muslim slime. They are both evil.
>
> You also have terrorist Gentiles in America doing the bidding of the
> terrorist Jews.
>
> Israeli invasion of Lebanon planned by neocons in June
>
> http://waynemadsenreport.com
>
> July 22/23, 2006 --
>
> The Israeli invasion of Lebanon was planned between top Israeli
> officials and members of the Bush administration.
>
> On June 17 and 18, former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu
> and Likud Knesset member Natan Sharansky met with Vice President Dick
> Cheney at the American Enterprise Institute conference in Beaver
> Creek, Colorado. There, the impending Israeli invasions of both Gaza
> and Lebanon were discussed. After receiving Cheney's full backing for
> the invasion of Gaza and Lebanon, Netanyahu flew back to Israel and
> participated in a special "Ex-Prime Ministers" meeting, in which he
> conveyed the Bush administration's support for the carrying out of the
> "Clean Break" policy -- the trashing of all past Middle East peace
> accords, including Oslo. Present at the meeting, in addition to
> Netanyahu, were current Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and former Prime
> Ministers Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres. Former Prime Minister Yitzhak
> Shamir is very old and suffers from dementia and Ariel Sharon remains
> in a coma after a series of strokes.
> Lebanon and Gaza invasions planned last month in Colorado meetings
> between Netanyahu, Sharansky, and Cheney.
> After the AEI meeting, Sharansky, who has the ear of Bush, met with
> the Heritage Foundation in Washington and then attended a June 29
> seminar at Philadelphia's Main Line Haverford School sponsored by the
> Middle East Forum led by Daniel Pipes. Sharansky appeared with
> Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum who this past Thursday was beating
> the war drums against Syria, Iran, and "Islamo-fascism" in a fiery
> speech at the National Press Club attended by a cheering section
> composed of members of the neocon Israel Project, on whose board
> Santorum serves along with Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Virginia
> GOP Rep. Tom Davis.
> Our Washington sources claim that the U.S.-supported invasions of Gaza
> and Lebanon and the impending attacks on Syria and Iran represent the
> suspected "event" predicted to take place prior to the November
> election in the United States and is an attempt to rally the American
> public around the Bush-Cheney regime during a time of wider war.
> Syria to enter conflict if Lebanon invaded: minister
> MADRID, July 23, 2006 (AFP) - A Syrian minister warned Israel in an
> interview published Sunday that a major ground incursion into Lebanon
> would draw his country into the Middle East conflict.
> "If Israel makes a land entry into Lebanon, they can get to within 20
> kilometres (12 miles) of Damascus," Information Minister Moshen Bilal
> told the Spanish newspaper ABC.
> "What will we do? Stand by with our arms folded? Absolutely not.
> Without any doubt Syria will intervene in the conflict." Bilal said
> Syria wanted above all a ceasefire "as soon as possible" combined with
> a prisoner exchange and indicated he was working to that end with
> Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos, whom he met in recent
> days in Madrid.
> But he added: "I repeat, if Israel makes a land invasion of Lebanon
> and gets near us, Syria will not stand by with arms folded. It will
> enter the conflict." Israel has said it wants to push Hezbollah
> militias 20 kilometres north of its border.
> Bilal criticised the United States saying that it was "unjustifiable"
> that "the superpower is not working for a rapid ceasefire." He
> rejected claims by Washington that Damascus has armed Hezbollah,
> saying that it offered "moral support" but adding that "we do not
> finance any resistance." -AFP
>
> Going after Syria (and then Iran) is accordance with the 'A Clean
> Break'/war for Israel agenda which esteemed intelligence author/writer
> James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269/321 of his 'A Pretext for
> War' book (scroll down to pages 261-269 at the following URL):
>
> http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=28769
>
> Pat Buchanan: No, This Is Not 'Our War' (it's Israel's war):
>
> http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=56303
>
> Neocons Resurrect Plans For Regional War In The Middle East:
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/17/neocons-middle-east-war/
The only terrorist supporters here are people like you who support
Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization
Paul Revere
: Sid9 wrote:
:
: > The only terrorist supporters here are people like
you who support
: > Hezbollah.
: >
: > Hezbollah is an internationally recognized
terrorist organization
It is also a ligitimately elected political party on
Lebenon. Kind of like Republicans are recongnzed as a
terrorist organization in most nations except for the
23% of brain dead walking neocons and christians in the
USA.
: >
: >
:
: How many babies has Hezbollah slaughtered in the last
few weeks? Oh, that's
: right, its Israel that's murdering children.
:
:
:
leona...@gmail.com
127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Sid9 wrote:
>
> > The only terrorist supporters here are people like you who support
> > Hezbollah.
> >
> > Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization
> How many babies has Hezbollah slaughtered in the last few weeks? Oh, that's
> right, its Israel that's murdering children.
Several Israeli children were killed in the past few
weeks by Hizballah rockets, including at least two
infants
aame...@gmail.com
> Lebenon. Kind of like Republicans are recongnzed as a
> terrorist organization in most nations except for the
> 23% of brain dead walking neocons and christians in the
> USA.
So Hezbollah = Republicans = Terrorist Organization?
Well, at least we're making progress!
Paul Revere schreef:
BlueOctopus
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>
> Hezbollah is an internationally recognized terrorist organization
>
>
Has the European Union added them to their list?
Which "lists of terrorists organizations" are they on?
Bugman
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It's also really nice that Hezbollah sets up it's rocket launchers in
residential areas. A newspaper guy wrote the other day that it's like a bank
robber using a kid as a human shield and then blaming the cops when the kid
gets hurt.
The_Man
> > ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
> >
> > And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
> > http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
>
"Once again"... has Buchanan EVER made sense? The greatest day in the
history of the Republican Party is the day Buchanan LEFT.
> Why can't we have sane foreign policy?
>
> Just a few months ago when Lebabon expelled the last of the Syrian
> troops from Lebanon the US administration applauded the Lebanese
> government, hailing its democratic will.
But Syria still effectively controls the country, the president is
widely decried within Lebanon as a Syrian puppet, and Hezbollah gets
$100 million a year.
>
> But now.. just a few months later we see the US administration vetoing
> a cease-fire which would stop the chaos engulfing Lebanon.
> Well..so much for any US administration praise or consistency.
>
> Now the Israeliis are massing troops on the border to invade
> (democratic) Lebanon, while the Lebanese are saying that they will
> commit their (ill-equipped) 50,000 man army to defend Lebanese
> sovereignty if pushed to do so.
Why would they do that? They never had control over ost of the
territory anyway, and looked the other way as Hezbollah controlled the
South in the same gangster fashion as Arafat's Fatah.
>
> This indeed is not the US's fight.
Maybe that's why we're NOT fighting there.
> Now we just need to know just why the US administration is using Bolton
> at the UN to veto the opportunity for peace in other people's
> countries.
Who's vetoing anything? Tell me which resolution he vetoed!
>
> I have never seen such dangerous games ever before.
That's because you have your head up your ass - it's hard to see much
that way.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
in message <2220844.Vt2SqinMCl@OICU812>:
>How many babies has Hezbollah slaughtered in the last few weeks? Oh, that's
>right, its Israel that's murdering children.
Why is it that you're okay with the EG having murdered children,
calling it a "fine job," but whine when the human shields used by
Hezbollah get caught in the crossfire?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>leona...@gmail.com wrote:
>What about this? ~~~~> www.halturnershow.com
What about it?
That's where you got the lie about looting in St. Louis, which you
trumpeted as "TNB" over in alt.non.racism.
Why don't you tell the nice folks what "TNB" stands for, and then
explain why
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/15101383.htm
<quote>
... St. Louis Police Col. Stephen Pollihan said there had been no
increase in crime.
</quote>
The idiot child is pretending to have me kill filed, would someone
repost this so we can all laugh at him running away from it?
BTW, idiot child: what *was* the London Fix price of gold on the
20th?
tom...@aol.com
The_Man wrote:
> lora...@cs.com wrote:
> > 127.0.0.1 wrote:
> > > Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
> > > No, Kenny boy, we are not "all Israelis." Some of us still think of
> > > ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
> > >
> > > And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
> > > http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
> >
> > Once again Buchanan makes excellent sense.
......
>
> "Once again"... has Buchanan EVER made sense? The greatest day in the
> history of the Republican Party is the day Buchanan LEFT.
Hmmmm. I've got a feeling a LOT of Republicans wish they hadn't
abandoned the "Buchannan Fence" idea so readily, now that illegal
imigration has become the leading issue against the Republican party.
Enter Your Bank Account Number Here ->:
> Finally some sanity from the right!
>
If your considering anything mumbled from Pat Buchanan as sane
you need mental health help. The brown shirt Nazi lover wouldn't like
anything more than seeing Israel destroyed along with the entire Jewish
population.
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Jews do not like the truth.
Kurt Knoll.
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BlueOctopus
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>> Finally some sanity from the right!
>>
> If your considering anything mumbled from Pat Buchanan as sane
> you need mental health help. The brown shirt Nazi lover wouldn't like
> anything more than seeing Israel destroyed along with the entire Jewish
> population.
>
Can you say "Pat Buchanan President of the United States"?
He's making a lot more sense that the politicians in Washington.
_______...@spamme.com
>>
> That's a bit off the truth.
Not at all, get your head out of your ass
google "pat buchanan anti-Semitic brown shirt" ...
>
> Can you say "Pat Buchanan President of the United States"?
I'm afraid the White boy's Christian Property Owners only voter"
only days are over. Hopefully our public education has not been
so cleansed of history and insight that the voters of
the future blindly follow people like ole' Brownie. He has written
Hitler was an excellent planner and leader had it not been for
getting caught killing 9 million jews.
>
> He's making a lot more sense that the politicians in Washington.
>
? WTF ? HE is lifer Washington Politician you dumb fuck !
He has never had a real job !
BlueOctopus
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> BlueOctopus wrote:
>
>>>
>> That's a bit off the truth.
> Not at all, get your head out of your ass
> google "pat buchanan anti-Semitic brown shirt" ...
I'm not concerned about it.
"anti-semetic" has been thrown around so freely by the Zionist Nazis, it has
no real meaning anymore.
I'll support him if he runs from office.
I like the way he pisses off the Zionists.
>
>>
>> He's making a lot more sense that the politicians in Washington.
>
> ? WTF ? HE is lifer Washington Politician you dumb fuck !
> He has never had a real job !
>
Sorry, should have said:
He makes more sense than the AIPAC contolled congress.
mellstrrr
> after the next presidential election.
This assumes your vote really counts.
No, this is not our war. But "elections" as they are currently conducted
in the United States are not going to help keep us out of it.
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Scotius
wrote:
>Pat Buchanan: No, this is not 'our war'
>
>World Net Daily | July 20, 2006
>
>My country has been "torn to shreds," said Fouad Siniora, the prime minister
>of Lebanon, as the death toll among his people passed 300 civilian dead,
>1,000 wounded, with half a million homeless.
>
Perhaps they shouldn't be letting Hezbollah camp out in their
country and hide behind those people he's now pretending to be so
concerned about?
>Israel must pay for the "barbaric destruction," said Siniora.
>
>To the contrary, says columnist Lawrence Kudlow, "Israel is doing the Lord's
>work."
>
>On American TV, former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu says the
>ruination of Lebanon is Hezbollah's doing. But is it Hezbollah that is
>using U.S.-built F-16s, with precision-guided bombs and 155-mm artillery
>pieces to wreak death and devastation on Lebanon?
No, it's Hezbollah who's hiding behind Lebanese civilians
though, so they can end up claiming victory either by saying "We
rocketed Israel and got away with it", or privately to their backers
"This will make the Israelis look really bad - yippee!".
>
>No, Israel is doing this, with the blessing and without a peep of protest
>from President Bush. And we wonder why they hate us.
Buchanan might give a lot of concern to that. I don't think in
this case many do. Further, there are reasons like the US government's
freezing of Iranian assets that make some people hate the US. If
Buchanan wants to parrot the neo nazi line, he can do it, but he ought
to join their party too.
>
>"Today, we are all Israelis!" brayed Ken Mehlman of the Republican National
>Committee to a gathering of Christians United for Israel.
>
>One wonders if these Christians care about what is happening to our
>Christian brethren in Lebanon and Gaza, who have had all power cut off by
>Israeli airstrikes, an outlawed form of collective punishment, that has
>left them with no sanitation, rotting food, impure water and days without
>light or electricity in the horrible heat of July.
>
>When summer power outrages occur in America, it means a rising rate of death
>among our sick and elderly, and women and infants. One can only imagine
>what a hell it must be today in Gaza City and Beirut.
If they hadn't let Hezbollah take over their country, it
wouldn't be happening at all, would it?
>
>But all this carnage and destruction has only piqued the blood lust of the
>hairy-chested warriors at the Weekly Standard. In a signed editorial, "It's
>Our War," William Kristol calls for America to play her rightful role in
>this war by "countering this act of aggression by Iran with a military
>strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. Why wait?"
>
>"Why wait?" Well, one reason is that the United States has not been
>attacked. A second is a small thing called the Constitution. Where does
>George W. Bush get the authority to launch a war on Iran? When did Congress
>declare war or authorize a war on Iran?
>
>Answer: It never did. But these neoconservatives care no more about the
>Constitution than they cared about the truth when they lied into war in
>Iraq.
>
>"Why wait?" How about thinking of the fate of those 25,000 Americans in
>Lebanon if we launch an unprovoked war on Iran. How many would wind up dead
>or hostages of Hezbollah if Iran gave the order to retaliate for the
>slaughter of their citizens by U.S. bombs? What would happen to the 130,000
>U.S. troops in Iraq, if Shiites and Iranian "volunteers" joined forces to
>exact revenge on our soldiers?
>
>What about America? Richard Armitage, who did four tours in Nam and knows a
>bit about war, says that, in its ability to attack Western targets,
>al-Qaida is the B Team, Hezbollah the A Team.
That much is true. Hezbollah, interestingly, has also trained
some of it's soldiers in parachuting, along with other small unit type
tactics.
>If Bush bombs Iran, what
>prevents Hezbollah from launching retaliatory attacks inside the United
>States?
>
>None of this is written in defense of Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran.
>
>But none of them has attacked our country, nor has Syria, whom Bush I made
>an ally in the Gulf War and to whom the most decorated soldier in Israeli
>history, Ehud Barak, offered 99 percent of the Golan Heights. If Nixon,
>Bush I and Clinton could deal with Hafez al-Assad, a tougher customer than
>son Bashar, what is the matter with George W. Bush?
>
>The last superpower is impotent in this war because we have allowed Israel
>to dictate to whom we may and may not talk. Thus, Bush winds up cussing in
>frustration in St. Petersburg that somebody should tell the Syrians to stop
>it. Why not pick up the phone, Mr. President?
>
>What is Kristol's moral and legal ground for a war on Iran? It is
>the "Iranian act of aggression" against Israel and that Iran is on the road
>to nuclear weapons ? and we can't have that.
>
>But there is no evidence Iran has any tighter control over Hezbollah than we
>have over Israel, whose response to the capture of two soldiers had all the
>spontaneity of the Schlieffen Plan. And, again, Hezbollah attacked Israel,
>not us. And there is no solid proof Iran is in violation of the nuclear
>Non-Proliferation Treaty, which it has signed, but Israel refuses to sign.
>
>If Iran's nuclear program justifies war, why cannot the neocons make that
>case in the constitutional way, instead of prodding Bush to launch a Pearl
>Harbor attack? Do they fear they have no credibility left after pushing
>Bush into this bloody quagmire in Iraq that has cost almost 2,600 dead and
>18,000 wounded Americans?
>
>No, Kenny boy, we are not "all Israelis." Some of us still think of
>ourselves as Americans, first, last and always
>
>And, no, Mr. Kristol, this is not "our war." It's your war.
>http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/israel_buchanan_not_our_war.htm
He tries to use okay sounding language, but I suspect there's
something more that he'd like to say, and frankly, just doesn't have
the nerve to go ahead and spew. Apparently Mr. Buchanan fails even at
being his definition of an "American first", by managing to be a
politician first and an American second? Why can't the Israel haters
live up to even their own standards?
BlueOctopus
Great tactic, wait till a thread has quieted, and the respond with your
zionazi propaganda.
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