USS Memphis in Norway after hit & run on Kursk
Anonymous
Five days after the Kursk sank in the Barents Sea, the U.S.
nuclear submarine Memphis docked at a naval base in Norway for
what a Norwegian military official said Tuesday was a planned
visit.
The visit by the Memphis comes as Russian commanders are pushing
the theory that the Kursk went down after colliding with a
foreign submarine, which would then have had to limp into a
nearby port for repairs.
But Norwegian Defense Ministry spokesman Brigadier Kjell
Grandhagen said Tuesday that the U.S. submarine, which arrived
Aug. 18 and is scheduled to leave next weekend, is not
undergoing repairs.
The visit to the Haakonsvern base near Bergen on Norway's west
coast was cleared more than a month ago and is not related to
the Barents Sea tragedy, he said by telephone.
Its purpose is "to take on fuel and supplies, and the crew is to
rest and recreate in Bergen." Norwegian media had covered the
submarine's arrival, and suggestions that the Memphis had been
involved in a collision were discarded, said Grandhagen.
The U.S. and British government have denied that any of their
submarines or surface vessels were involved in a collision with
the Kursk. NATO has also denied involvement of any of its
vessels.
Admiral Eduard Baltin, a former commander of a division of
submarines in the Northern Fleet, said Tuesday at a news
conference that two U.S. submarines are permanently present in
the Barents Sea and another one arrives when Russia is holding
naval exercises, as it was when the Kursk sank.
n Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev said Monday that military and
civilian leaders strongly suspected the Kursk had collided with
another submarine, which suffered severe damage but eventually
managed to escape, the New York Times reported.
He said a submerged shape was detected lying near the Kursk
about the time that Russian vessels were identifying its
shattered hull, on the evening of Aug. 13 — more than 30 hours
after Western sensors detected two explosions.
Sergeyev then ordered the navy to send a "hydrographic vessel
with more powerful equipment" to search for the mystery ship
near the Kursk, "but this object was not found."
It appeared from his remarks that in the early stages of the
rescue operation, navy officials were not only organizing the
attempted rescue of the Kursk crew, but also seeking a foreign
submarine that they suspected in the collision.
Frank Gerlach
Charlie Wolf
Regards,
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:59:40 -0600, Anonymous
<nob...@noisebox.remailer.org> wrote:
> Moscow Times 23AUG00 by Andrei Zolotov Jr.
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Before you buy.
Aarnie
"hydrographic ship" got there.
they if sh&t happens on the highsea, its gotta be us gangsta's and pirate's
from the US causing it, right?
In article <8o60ud$n3j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, lann...@my-deja.com says...
Andre
is just a bunch of morons then. Guys, guys why do you get so excited?
Ok, the sub was in Bergen, so what? Does it mean that an American sub
can not visit Norwegian port? They often do.The sub was not damaged or
someting.
Morons, sub from Mars, Chechen sub... ....
"..... and beer kills brain cells",- Homer Simpson.
Charles Samardza
First, unless they've changed it, the numbers on a nuke on operations are
blacked out, also, I haven't heard anything about secure facilities for a nuke
in Norway, so where did she put in?
Second, for a 7000 ton, single hulled boat to do substantial damage to an 18000
ton, double hulled boat would probably require a high speed impact, which would
likely result in the loss of the smaller boat, irreguardless of what happened to
the larger.
Aarnie wrote:
> and i'll bet they had a bitch of a time pedalling it out of range before the
> "hydrographic ship" got there.
>
> they if sh&t happens on the highsea, its gotta be us gangsta's and pirate's
> from the US causing it, right?
>
> In article <8o60ud$n3j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, lann...@my-deja.com says...
> >
> >In article <39a67159...@news.frontiernet.net>,
> > wo...@dont.botherme.net (Charlie Wolf) wrote:
> >> Anonymous appears to be a complete and total moron...
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:59:40 -0600, Anonymous
> >> <nob...@noisebox.remailer.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Moscow Times 23AUG00 by Andrei Zolotov Jr.
> >> >
> >> snipped...
> >>
> >>
Andrew Toppan
>This is getting a bit bizarre, therefore I have to throw in my 2 cents worth.
>First, unless they've changed it, the numbers on a nuke on operations are
>blacked out,
MEMPHIS is easy to identify - she's configured as a trials/test ship for
various new systems, and has some external housings related to this role.
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nob...@noisebox.remailer.org said...
> Moscow Times 23AUG00 by Andrei Zolotov Jr.
>
Bob
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"Charlie Wolf" <wo...@dont.botherme.net> schreef in bericht
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> Anonymous appears to be a complete and total moron...
> Regards,
Why is someone that citates an newspaper article a moron ?
Please explain !
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L'acrobat
"Andrew Toppan" <acto...@gwi.net> wrote in message
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> Charles Samardza <sama...@ezy.net> wrote:
>
> >This is getting a bit bizarre, therefore I have to throw in my 2 cents
worth.
> >First, unless they've changed it, the numbers on a nuke on operations are
> >blacked out,
>
> MEMPHIS is easy to identify - she's configured as a trials/test ship for
> various new systems, and has some external housings related to this role.
So! you admit that Memphis was trailling an ASW ram.
Andre
> >
> Gotta wonder: if Memphis was in Norway, where was Elvis?
>
> Bob
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Why don't you ask this at alt.elvis.king or something? They should know.
Regards
Andre
Charles Samardza
But, if she is a test and trials boat she would NOT be used as a
clandestine operations ship, as well, my second comment still stands.
BTW, the man that was quoted was wrong, he said that the Memphis was
taking on fuel and supplies. I quite certain that fuel is one thing not
taken on.
wind...@erols.Zcom wrote:
Eugene Griessel
>OK, I was obviously incorrect about ID and visiting a Norwegian Base.
>But, if she is a test and trials boat she would NOT be used as a
>clandestine operations ship, as well, my second comment still stands.
>BTW, the man that was quoted was wrong, he said that the Memphis was
>taking on fuel and supplies. I quite certain that fuel is one thing not
>taken on.
And why not? Or are you unaware of the fact that nearly every nuke
ever built also has diesels?
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Ogden Johnson III
>OK, I was obviously incorrect about ID and visiting a Norwegian Base.
>But, if she is a test and trials boat she would NOT be used as a
>clandestine operations ship, as well, my second comment still stands.
If the stuff she is testing and trialing is clandestine operations
stuff, where better to trial and test it if you're in the final
stages?
OJ III
[Hey, it was just watching the Roosians doing exercise stuff. Piece
of cake, no?]
Andrew Toppan
>If the stuff she is testing and trialing is clandestine operations
>stuff, where better to trial and test it if you're in the final
>stages?
But that's not what she's testing...
Lurker Below
>"Charlie Wolf" <wo...@dont.botherme.net> schreef in bericht
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>> Anonymous appears to be a complete and total moron...
>> Regards,
>Why is someone that citates an newspaper article a moron ?
>Please explain !
Look at the Subject Header and then you *should* get it...
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stealt...@my-deja.com
No way, brother, what really happened was that a 300 foot long
Charcarodon Megalodon ran into the Kursk thinking it was somekind of new
age toothpick.
wind...@erols.zcom
> >
> > Gotta wonder: if Memphis was in Norway, where was Elvis?
> >
> > Bob
> > --
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>
> Regards
> Andre
>
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