U.S. dad + sons murdered by illegal alien in 'sanctuary city' San Francisco
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"un-American" it was for the South to secede from the Union in the
mid-1800s prior to the Civil War.
But what about the public officials of secessionist "sanctuary
cities" such as San Francisco and Los Angeles and a number of other
American cities who are thumbing their noses at the Union *right*
*now*?
The reality -- as illustrated below -- is that today's U.S.
"sanctuary cities" which offer refuge to illegal aliens are not only
mocking federal law but are also creating proverbial death zones where
Americans like Tony Bologna and his sons aren't even safe in their own
neighborhoods.
This is literally a life-and-death issue for Americans. Please refer
to the guidance left to us by our nation's founders for dealing with
such murderous treason.
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Alert: The man charged with killing a father and two sons on a San
Francisco street last month was one of the youths who benefited from
the city's long-standing practice of shielding illegal immigrant
juveniles who committed felonies from possible deportation, The
Chronicle has learned.
Edwin Ramos, now 21, is being held on three counts of murder in the
June 22 deaths of Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and
Matthew, 16. They were shot near their home in the Excelsior district
when Tony Bologna, driving home from a family picnic, briefly blocked
the gunman's car from completing a left turn down a narrow street,
police say.
Ramos, a native of El Salvador whom prosecutors say is a member of a
violent street gang, was found guilty of two felonies as a juvenile -
a gang-related assault on a Muni passenger and the attempted robbery
of a pregnant woman - according to authorities familiar with his
background.
In neither instance did officials with the city's Juvenile Probation
Department alert federal immigration authorities, because it was the
city agency's policy not to consider immigration status when deciding
how to deal with an offender. Had city officials investigated, they
would have found that Ramos lacked legal status to remain in the
United States.
Federal authorities, however, also missed an opportunity to take Ramos
into custody just this past March - after they had learned of his
immigration status and started deportation proceedings, and after
Ramos was arrested in San Francisco on a gun charge. For reasons the
federal agents cannot explain, they did not put an immigration hold on
Ramos.
Raised in El Salvador
Juvenile justice authorities locally had a policy for at least a
decade of not turning over illegal immigrant felons to the federal
government, interpreting San Francisco's self-proclaimed sanctuary-
city status and state law as barring local officials from surrendering
them for deportation.
Mayor Gavin Newsom rescinded that policy earlier this month after The
Chronicle reported that the city had flown a number of youths out of
the country on its own, in possible violation of federal law, and then
housed some in unlocked group homes from which they quickly escaped.
Ramos came to the United States at age 13 from El Salvador, where he
had been raised by his grandmother.
Authorities familiar with his background said Ramos wanted to be near
his mother, who had abandoned him when he was 4 months old; she was
living with two of her other children in San Francisco.
According to records, his first contact with San Francisco police came
Oct. 22, 2003, when officers were summoned to investigate an attack on
a Muni bus at 21st and Mission streets.
Ramos, who had just turned 17, had allegedly flashed gang signs and
banged on the bus' windows with two other gang members. The three then
yelled, "Who are you with?" at a passenger, who responded that he did
not belong to a gang, police said.
At that point, Ramos and the other two boarded the bus and beat and
kicked the man, an attack that was recorded by the bus' video camera,
authorities said.
Ramos was taken to juvenile hall on charges of assault and
participating in a street gang. He was later convicted in juvenile
court and was put in a shelter.
At that point, under federal law, Ramos could have been referred to
the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. But the Juvenile
Probation Department's policy for dealing with offenders stipulated
that "probation officers shall not discriminate in any fashion against
minors based on their immigration status." If the department made any
inquiries into whether Ramos was a legal U.S. resident, it did not
pass along its findings to the federal government.
New crime within days
On April 2, 2004, Ramos was released to the custody of his mother, but
was still considered a ward of the court and was on probation. Just
four days later, records show, he committed another crime at 19th and
Mission streets, two blocks from the site of the attack on the Muni
passenger.
Records indicate that Ramos and two other men approached a pregnant
woman from behind during the middle of the day, and that Ramos tried
to yank away her backpack-style purse.
The woman's brother was walking alongside and tried to stop the
attack. He pushed Ramos away, he later said, but Ramos punched him and
fled.
The man found a police officer and pointed out Ramos nearby. A month
later, Ramos was convicted as a juvenile of attempted robbery, a
felony, but cleared of assault.
Ramos was sent to Log Cabin Ranch, a city-run camp in the hills of the
Peninsula, in June 2004. He was freed in February 2005, this time to
live with his mother's sister.
Federal authorities finally learned that Ramos wasn't a legal U.S.
resident sometime after he turned 18, when he applied for temporary
residency status and was turned down. The records are confidential, so
the exact date of Ramos' application is unclear, but ICE spokeswoman
Virginia Kice said that once he was turned down, he would have been
considered deportable.
By that time, however, Ramos had married a woman who is a U.S. citizen
and applied again to immigration officials to stay in the United
States, this time as a permanent resident. That request was pending at
the time Tony Bologna and his sons were shot to death.
Another break
In March, three months before the killings, Ramos was arrested in San
Francisco after police pulled him over because his car had illegally
tinted windows and no front license plate. An alleged gang member in
the car tried to discard a gun, but police recovered it and later
concluded that it had been used in a double killing, authorities said.
The police report of the incident cited "numerous documented contacts"
that officers had with Ramos and the man who allegedly discarded the
gun, and said both were active members of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13)
street gang.
San Francisco prosecutors, however, declined to file charges against
Ramos, saying they couldn't prove that he knew his companion had the
gun.
When Ramos was arrested, sheriff's deputies checked his immigration
status on a national database and learned that he was considered
deportable, immigration and sheriff's officials say. Eileen Hirst,
chief of staff for Sheriff Michael Hennessey, said deputies had asked
whether federal officials wanted to place a hold on Ramos so he could
be taken into immigration custody.
"In our communication with ICE, they specifically told us they were
not placing a detainer on him," Hirst said. "We cannot hold people in
custody without a documented reason to hold them."
Kice acknowledged that federal authorities had not asked for Ramos to
be held. She said she did not know why.
City now referring offenders
Since Newsom announced the city's policy shift, San Francisco has
referred at least 10 juvenile offenders to ICE for possible
deportation proceedings.
In an interview Friday, Newsom declined to comment on Ramos' history
in San Francisco's juvenile justice system, saying it would be wildly
inappropriate to do so given the confidentiality of juvenile criminal
records.
Newsom's juvenile probation director, William Siffermann, inherited
his agency's policy of not turning over illegal immigrant juveniles
for deportation when he took the job in early 2005. All of Ramos'
contacts with the city's juvenile justice system took place before
Siffermann came on board.
Siffermann said in an interview, "I am not going to confirm any of his
prior dealings with our department. I can't comment on what the
implications were for our department when that decision was made. That
is part of what we're reviewing."
Ramos' lawyer in the triple-murder case, Robert Amparan, did not
address the issue of Ramos' immigration status, saying only that there
were several people who would vouch for his client's character and
good work in the community.
"I've gotten several calls from community workers, educators and city
service providers who know and work with Edwin," Amparan said. "They
all expressed support and say they had never known him to be involved
in anything like the allegations against him."
What might not have been
Joseph Russoniello, the U.S. attorney for Northern California, said he
welcomed the city's re-examination of its policies related to how it
handles illegal immigrant youths who commit felonies.
"A formula has to be found that accommodates the public's right to be
safe and the juvenile's need to be protected, in many cases, from
themselves," Russoniello said. "It is something that cries out for
more attention than we're giving it."
As for the killings of the Bolognas, Russoniello said, "Is this
something that could have been prevented? I don't know."
Danielle Bologna, however, said that if the government had done its
job, the killings of her husband and two sons "would never have
happened."
"It was senseless," she said. "And to think they didn't deport him
back, knowing that he did not have papers and he was here illegally,
it is a big issue.
"They need to take responsibility, the city," Bologna said. "They
didn't do anything. ... He should have been deported. This is huge.
I'm extremely angry about this."
(SF Gate)
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Justin Case
their government agencies, none to schools and certainly none to the
illegal alien swine, like the Mexicans.
Seon Ferguson
"Justin Case" <flyb...@rumor.com> wrote in message
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> There should be no Federal funds available to sanctuary cities. None to
> their government agencies, none to schools and certainly none to the
> illegal alien swine, like the Mexicans.
I agree and if a ilegal imigrant commits a crime and is to be found to have
entered your country ilegally he or she should be deported.
optix
> Everyone reading this has been brought up to believe how wrong and
>"un-American" it was for the South to secede from the Union in the
>mid-1800s prior to the Civil War.
>
> But what about the public officials of secessionist "sanctuary
>cities" such as San Francisco and Los Angeles and a number of other
>American cities who are thumbing their noses at the Union *right*
>*now*?
>
Given what the federal government has devolved into(1), I would
actively support my state if they seceded from the union. I do not
support criminal psychopaths running my country.
(1) false flag ops, kidnapping, secret prisons, rape, torture and
murder of detainees, massive waste, fraud and theft of public
resources, drug smuggling, nuclear black market and more..... much,
much more.
--
Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.
Voltaire
f. barnes
> "Justin Case" <flybyn...@rumor.com> wrote in message
Illegal aliens should be deported, period, end of statement.
Seon Ferguson
"f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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Yeah they came to your country ilegally. They broke a law but congress (both
republicans and democrats) wont have the balls to do it.
But what makes this even worse is the ilegal's commited a crime but because
San fransisco was a "sancturary city" they didnt get deported and because of
that they killed someone. That's what sickens me.
hatingmexic...@gmail.com
> "Justin Case" <flybyn...@rumor.com> wrote in message
I agree. America needs to take care of it's own and stop letting all
of these known criminals walk the streets. It is because of our
governments inaction that these things are happening.
_ G O D _
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> "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote
> news:b5785a0d-336b-4c15...@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com...>> news:7c9ik.2045$1N1....@newsfe07.iad...
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>> > .... illegal alien swine, like the Mexicans.
>>
>> I agree and if a ilegal imigrant commits a crime and is to be found
>> to have entered your country ilegally he or she should be deported.
>
>>Illegal aliens should be deported, period, end of statement.
>
> Yeah they came to your country ilegally. They broke a law but congress
> (both republicans and democrats) wont have the balls to do it.
There are no such things like "illegal aliens," other than
in fiction novels, and in twisted minds of COck-sucking
sadistic americunts. They're dysfunctional morons who
unable to deal with reality with honest and fair methods.
They are looking for scapegoats to suck their blood via
penis. And because some timid folks do not mind such
treatment, or simply are not being able to object it, they
go along with this perversion, as long as they tolerate it.
Everybody "owns" a country equally with every resident.
Therefore, everybody have to be equally responsible for
their felonies, regardless of the way they have arrived to
the country, of how well they are being documented in it...
However, I agree with the idea of banishing felons from
the country instead of "treating" them (or mistreating) in
various institutions, affiliated with incarceration industry,
at the enormous expense to the law-abiding tax-payers.
Those, who wish to be rehabilitated before violating the
law, must be able find help at their own expense. While
those who have committed crime must to be compelled
to find it in other countries if they have the desire to fit in
civilized society.
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Seon Ferguson
<hatingmexic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah something needs to be done before more people are murdured by ilegal
immigrants. I doubt anyone running for President of your great country will
do anything though.