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Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 1:36:04 PM6/12/09
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Incoming Meteor Data Now Classified

A new U.S. policy decision now deems that observational data of
incoming space rocks entering the atmosphere is now classified.

For the past 15 years, The U.S. government shared classified satellite
data with scientists studying the characterizations of meteoroids and
asteroids as they crash through the atmosphere.

"It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one
scientist involved.
"Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was
getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable
change in policy."

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=79138

Do they have something to hide?
http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html

Curious, for sure....hmmmm...

namekuseijin

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Jun 12, 2009, 3:54:26 PM6/12/09
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Warhol escreveu:

Perhaps they don't want alarmist people like you constantly trumpeting
the end of the world everytime a little rock gets nearby. Exactly like
one of the commenters:

>posted 10 June 2009, 6:03 pm ETJonHouston wrote:
>
> Makes me wonder if the Military knows about a large body that is
> headed our way and they want to keep it a secret to prevent panic?

Either way, it's becoming crowded up there with sattellites from various
countries. Perhaps they are preparing to toast some of them with laser? :P

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george

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Jun 12, 2009, 4:23:22 PM6/12/09
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On Jun 13, 7:54 am, namekuseijin <namekusei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Warhol escreveu:

>  > Makes me wonder if the Military knows about a large body that is
>  > headed our way and they want to keep it a secret to prevent panic?
>
> Either way, it's becoming crowded up there with sattellites from various
> countries.  Perhaps they are preparing to toast some of them with laser? :P

I''d expect the astronomers of the world to be aware of a 'rock'
headed our way instead on a non astronomically based military

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 4:41:50 PM6/12/09
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Keep talking pussycat, someday you'll say something intelligent!

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 4:55:33 PM6/12/09
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I would Say a 'Hard Rock' George...

What exactly would they be trying to cover up? It doesn't make any
sense. Rocks fall from space and then they need to be classified as
top secret.

Maybe they want to squelch any reports of increased meteor activity.

If you've seen Deep Impact the meteor storms come before the
asteroid.

BradGuth

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Jun 12, 2009, 5:35:05 PM6/12/09
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They need to keep hiding their butts, as well as the matter of their
more often not detecting squat until it's a bit too late, not to
mention the continuing embarrassment each time some amateur with zero
public compensation from us is doing a far better job at detection and
identifying these new ones.

BTW, we should be entering the Sirius debris gauntlet right about
now. When Sirius B went from its red supergiant into the helium
flashover, all sorts of orbiting stuff got set free, while other stuff
ended up orbiting light years further away. Too bad no one can manage
to date that transition phase of when Sirius B became that Little
white dwarf..

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 5:51:33 PM6/12/09
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BREAKING: Meteorites in Germany are hitting people
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090612/sc_space/boyhitbymeteorite

More and bigger ones yet to come... there will be a large increase in
the amount of meteors hitting Earth.

GREAT BALLS OF FIRE FOR THE DEMONS OF DARKNESS!

BradGuth

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Jun 12, 2009, 6:01:43 PM6/12/09
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> BREAKING: Meteorites in Germany are hitting peoplehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090612/sc_space/boyhitbymeteorite

>
> More and bigger ones yet to come... there will be a large increase in
> the amount of meteors hitting Earth.
>
> GREAT BALLS OF FIRE FOR THE DEMONS OF DARKNESS!

Thanks for the heads up, so to speak. If one hits me, I'll be sure to
let you know.

BTW, Earth could certainly use the added mass.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 6:14:00 PM6/12/09
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lol... Final Destination... Like for instance the one that went down
in the Atlantic last week? That is a real good question. Considering
the timing of this coinciding with the crash, I would be curious to
know this aswell.

Just a thought.

BradGuth

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Jun 12, 2009, 6:45:11 PM6/12/09
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My first thought is that AF447 encountered space junk or possibly a
meteor. Though a fairly long shot, it does explain everything that
went so horribly wrong and catastrophic within seconds after being
hit.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 7:01:38 PM6/12/09
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Gran'Da'dy used to say that the first thoughts are always the best
thoughts...

The Black Hand of Gran'Da'Dy is at work I know It for sure now... No
escape from His wrath for Saul and his Kind...

An Italian woman who arrived late for the Air France plane flight that
crashed in the Atlantic last week has been killed in a car accident,
it has been reported.

Johanna Ganthaler, a pensioner from Bolzano-Bozen province, had been
on holiday in Brazil with her husband Kurt and missed Air France
Flight 447 after turning up late at Rio de Janeiro airport on May 31.

All 228 people aboard lost their lives after the plane crashed into
the Atlantic four hours into its flight to Paris.

The ANSA news agency reported that the couple had managed to pick up a
flight from Rio the following day.

It said that Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in
Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck. Her husband was
seriously injured.

Sign's of The Black Mark...

BradGuth

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Jun 12, 2009, 8:17:46 PM6/12/09
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Perhaps when you get on God's "must die" list, there's no excuses,
plea bargaining or other way out.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 12, 2009, 8:51:09 PM6/12/09
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In the flickering light of the lantern...

Shiver me timbers -- "Pirates, ye be warned."

They now sail the Pirate ship without Gran'Da'dy, but under a curse
(QarQar). Ever since stealing Moorish coins made of stolen Alchemical
gold, they have been undead - they can't be killed, but they can't eat
or enjoy life either.

WHAT WOULD I GIVE?

What would I give for a heart of flesh to warm me through,
Instead of this heart of stone ice-cold whatever I do;
Hard and cold and small, of all hearts the worst of all.

What would I give for words, if only words would come;
But now in its misery my spirit has fallen dumb:
Oh, merry friends, go your own way, I have never a word to say.

What would I give for tears, not smiles but scalding tears,
To wash the black mark clean, and to thaw the frost of years,
To wash the stain ingrain and to make me clean again.


john smith

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Jun 12, 2009, 10:01:03 PM6/12/09
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"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4e968ac6-abcb-461e...@z8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

~ BG


I've been fascinated by Sirius ever since I read Temple's "The Sirius
Mystery" as a teenager. (Now discredited, of course!) Do you have a link
to this information about the "Sirius debris gauntlet"?

Thanks in advance!


nightbat

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Jun 13, 2009, 12:43:34 AM6/13/09
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nightbat wrote


"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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nightbat

Thank you Commander Warhol now with only 3 years left and
counting towards the predicted end of time, news black out is to be
expected. Analog free over the air signals are presently being removed also,
oh the humanity! and sal is nursing home bound.

carry on,
the nightbat

Ben Cramer#1

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Jun 13, 2009, 1:03:18 AM6/13/09
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Nobody has yet identified the space a loony like you occupies.

Warhol

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Jun 13, 2009, 4:48:41 AM6/13/09
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Nightbat... you're Back... thats the best news I have seen yet.

Nightbat I thought the evil coffee boys got you Captain... but
happenly you r here again and alive... and thats makes my day very
good... and let the Coffee Boys tremble again...

Welcome on Board Captain...

Elijahovah

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Jun 13, 2009, 1:19:09 PM6/13/09
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The anti-Christ is not against Jesus,
he is against those who will survive global disaster
because those who survive are the new world goverment,
the only one religion as one government.
This makes that one uniform nature of salvation as
a christ who does things as Jesus did and would have if he were here
now.
Thus an anti-Christ does not declare to be against Jesus.
It is not just being a rep of authority instead of Jesus
(concerning asteroids).
Anyone who also beleives that he or it is the rep of Jesus
(chosen by Jesus or Allah)
instead of the true identity of that church and government
is thus against the one who really is going to do it.

In other words Herod thought he was the christ-king
and so he tried to have baby Jesus killed just because
someone else said Jesus was it, or any baby in Bethlehem.
So too at 33 Jesus represented a rule other than the next
Herod or Pilot or Caesar.

So, any current religion or any government if right about
an asteroid would be the next survivor. Our government
might be jealous, or Satan might be well motiviating them.
The Christ cannot warn of an asteroid if he doesnt know
which date, and the USA thinks it would know before
anyone else. That makes the USA a false christ,
a replacement christ, a better christ, than any other current
christ and that makes them anti-christ if they are their
own choice of salvation rather than who Jesus picks.

My belief is 40 days after Yom Kippur, if Obama kills
the saints on that day, an asteroid has always been
in orbit that will hit 40 days later this year...
(my previous concept was Passover sacrifice 1997 or 2009)
whether the christ dies or not,
and whether this world kills that christ or not,
the asteroid comes and hits this year, BUT God and Satan
are at a manipulation of man to win their controversy
by getting their own concept to occur. Who knows us better,
God or Satan? Which way will happen?

BradGuth

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Jun 13, 2009, 1:30:30 PM6/13/09
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Humans of the most devout faith-based kind are what tend to kill other
humans, even it it takes a puppet government plus a false flag in
order to make such happen. Before modern politics, mainstream
religion was essentially the only government in town, so to speak.

~ BG

BDK

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Jun 13, 2009, 1:40:37 PM6/13/09
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In article <1e4d682b-241d-4a7d-9b1f-
0d1e9d...@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, rsch...@wi.rr.com says...


BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!
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BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

BDK

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Jun 13, 2009, 1:45:47 PM6/13/09
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In article <8e39751c-703e-43db-a3aa-9d68075794f3@
3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...


Yes, welcome on board the Good Ship Lollipop! Admiral Wormhole,
Commodore Wormhole both welcome you aboard. The first stop is Venus,
where Commodore will welcome the Venusians only he can see on board.
Then, it's off to the Coffee Boy world, where the Lollipop will attack,
and no doubt, destroy them.

Next stop.....the far side of kookspace, where no sane man has gone
before!

george

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Jun 13, 2009, 4:12:51 PM6/13/09
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On Jun 13, 5:03 pm, Ben Cramer#1 <N...@Cloned.com> wrote:

> Nobody has yet identified the space a loony like you occupies.

How's prison treating your sorry arse?
Now I know you're back back into the killfile with you

BDK

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Jun 13, 2009, 11:11:07 PM6/13/09
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In article <338acf9a-c257-4fda-83fa-
97fa87...@k19g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, gbl...@hnpl.net says...

Benjie's in prison? Cool!! I'm sure he's gonna love it there.


--

george

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Jun 14, 2009, 12:32:48 AM6/14/09
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On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <338acf9a-c257-4fda-83fa-
> 97fa87e99...@k19g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, gbl...@hnpl.net says...

>
> > On Jun 13, 5:03 pm, Ben Cramer#1 <N...@Cloned.com> wrote:
>
> > > Nobody has yet identified the space a loony like you occupies.
>
> > How's prison treating your sorry arse?
> > Now I know you're back back into the killfile with you
>
> Benjie's in prison? Cool!! I'm sure he's gonna love it there.
>
There's some-one out there pretending to be the retard.
At a guess I'd say its that Dutch fan who is several sandwiches short
of a cut lunch

Warhol

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Jun 15, 2009, 12:49:47 PM6/15/09
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all who is against the Christ is Anti Christ... and there many who are
anti christ... not just one. Herode is called the Beast, because he
ordained the murder born baby's to prevent the birth of the Savoir...
the promised one... Imman'uel...

Warhol

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:18:57 PM6/15/09
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On Jun 15, 9:36 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 8:59 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 4:06 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 14, 5:15 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "cabin depressurization,' which inevitably resulted in the fatal
> > > > descent"
>
> > > > thats what the wikipedia say's about Air france flight 447. What would
> > > > have caused the sudden 'cabin depressurization'... UFO? Meteoride??
>
> > > > So the first ever air accident resulting in deaths was caused by a
> > > > sudden deflation and descent, and is a major point in France's
> > > > history. The recent Flight 447 tragedy is also a major point in
> > > > France's history. According to the Wiki page regarding the event, 'The
> > > > final message received, at 02:14 UTC, indicated a possible cabin
> > > > depressurization,' which inevitably resulted in the fatal descent.
> > > > Both occur while attempting to cross bodies of water (the English
> > > > Channel, the Atlantic Ocean).
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
>
> > > > On Jun 15, 1:00 am, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > STUFF IT, FOOL!  lmfjao!
>
> > > > > Saul Levy

>
> > > > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >In the flickering light of the lantern...
>
> > > > > >Shiver me timbers -- "Pirates, ye be warned."
>
> > > > > >They now sail the Pirate ship without Gran'Da'dy, but under a curse
> > > > > >(QarQar). Ever since stealing Moorish coins made of stolen Alchemical
> > > > > >gold, they have been undead - they can't be killed, but they can't eat
> > > > > >or enjoy life either.
>
> > > > > >WHAT WOULD I GIVE?
>
> > > > > >What would I give for a heart of flesh to warm me through,
> > > > > >Instead of this heart of stone ice-cold whatever I do;
> > > > > >Hard and cold and small, of all hearts the worst of all.
>
> > > > > >What would I give for words, if only words would come;
> > > > > >But now in its misery my spirit has fallen dumb:
> > > > > >Oh, merry friends, go your own way, I have never a word to say.
>
> > > > > >What would I give for tears, not smiles but scalding tears,
> > > > > >To wash the black mark clean, and to thaw the frost of years,
> > > > > >To wash the stain ingrain and to make me clean again.
>
> > > It was sudden and it was entirely catastrophic within seconds, not
> > > minutes.
>
> > > That AF447 encountered a brick wall, so to speak, and within seconds
> > > there was no hope or any last words spoken.  Out of perhaps 100
> > > digital cameras of one sort or another, perhaps not one cabin image of
> > > the chaos was obtained or personal message recorded, because there
> > > simply wasn't enough time.
>
> > >  ~ BG
>
> > Two pilots, one from TAM(Brazil) another from Air Comet(Spanish), said
> > they saw a strong flash at the time and place where the accident took
> > place. They observed it, when they were flying in that region. The
> > spanish pilot also add that the flash were very intense and white and
> > it took a vertical descent, disappearing six seconds after.
>
> >http://www.correiodamanha.pt/noticia.aspx?contentid=CAE94196-7EF8-4B2...]
>
> > Could this possible be the first case of a plane being struck by a
> > meteor?
> > i found a article on a woman in Gran Canaria who claims to have
> > photographed the plane in flames?
>
> >http://www.formulatv.com/1,20090602,11598,1.html
>
> > so i wonder could there have been a meteor shower at that time?
>
> > im still puzzled by the picture of the falling fireball? photographed
> > off the coast of Spain? i guess NORAD or similar would know!! btw. do
> > they track
> > domestic and space objects only? or do they have a worldwide grit?
>
> > Oeps...
> > Incoming Meteor Data is classefied now... we shall never known.
>
> Most likely that's an image of space junk rather than meteor, and
> there's a lot more where that came from.  Perhaps breath holding is
> not an option, whereas decades from now we'll learn the whole truth,
> just like the truth of what brought down the Russian SST took 25+
> years in order to get that truth.
>
>  ~ BG


I dont believe in space junk, since space travel is based on one Big
international Hoax; Moon, Mars, satellites and ISS is all hoax...
there aint no one up there, all that space bullshit are just lies and
fake miracles as I Have stated here already so many times in the
past...

so what is left that can come down... That are Hard Rocks cometh from
what ones was the fifth planet of this solar system... Known to us as
an asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. So the only danger we are
facing from space is cometh from there.

The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now
classified.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/186548-When-Meteors-Explode-Full-Account-of-a-Wild-Chicago-Night

Amazing. We are now denied the right to know what is going on in the
skies above us.

BradGuth

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Jun 15, 2009, 5:56:47 PM6/15/09
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> classified.http://www.sott.net/articles/show/186548-When-Meteors-Explode-Full-Ac...

>
> Amazing. We are now denied the right to know what is going on in the
> skies above us.

I've been saying somewhat the exact same thing for the past decade and
counting. At best we're being told half-truths and/or getting
mainstream denial and obfuscated to death by those of our own kind.
However, trust me that globally we've put many thousands of tonnes of
nifty stuff into LEO, GSO, polar, L1 and L2 orbits, plus even a few as
having orbited and impacted our extremely nearby Selene/moon, not to
mention having impacted a few other planets.

The grand ruse/sting of our mutually perpetrated cold-war century
continues as we type into this public Usenet/newsgroup. Guess who's
in charge of most everything that counts? (but of course you and I
already know)

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 15, 2009, 6:44:07 PM6/15/09
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But there were only rocks...rocks, rocks and more rocks!!!

It was "Made in Disneyland".

Disney funds for Mars Program.

Those are photos Mars Rover, both were made in Disney.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7303/marsroverr.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1836/roversundial.jpg

Whilst I sat on the hard auditorium floor I finally understood what
Doctor Smith (of "Lost in Space" fame...) meant by "Oh the pain...the
pain!!! Oh my aching back...William...fetch the bubble-headed booby!"

http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/%7Edavid/sigart/2001_A_Space_odyssey.gif

And the date in the movie, 2001.

coincidence or ?

...are any other specific dates in the movie,
like 9-11 ??

After all, the "fake of the XX century" is still the holomyth...

BradGuth

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Jun 15, 2009, 7:20:41 PM6/15/09
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> Those are photos Mars Rover, both were made in Disney.http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7303/marsroverr.jpghttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1836/roversundial.jpg

>
> Whilst I sat on the hard auditorium floor I finally understood what
> Doctor Smith (of "Lost in Space" fame...) meant by "Oh the pain...the
> pain!!! Oh my aching back...William...fetch the bubble-headed booby!"
>
> http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/%7Edavid/sigart/2001_A_Space_odyssey.gif
>
> And the date in the movie, 2001.
>
> coincidence or ?
>
> ...are any other specific dates in the movie,
> like 9-11 ??
>
> After all, the "fake of the XX century" is still the holomyth...

If all was all "Made in Disneyland", we're in a whole lot worse
trouble than even you can imagine.

You really need to get out more. Have you ever been outside your room/
cell?

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 15, 2009, 7:44:34 PM6/15/09
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> > Those are photos Mars Rover, both were made in Disney.http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7303/marsroverr.jpghttp://img526.i...

>
> > Whilst I sat on the hard auditorium floor I finally understood what
> > Doctor Smith (of "Lost in Space" fame...) meant by "Oh the pain...the
> > pain!!! Oh my aching back...William...fetch the bubble-headed booby!"
>
> >http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/%7Edavid/sigart/2001_A_Space_odyssey.gif
>
> > And the date in the movie, 2001.
>
> > coincidence or ?
>
> > ...are any other specific dates in the movie,
> > like 9-11 ??
>
> > After all, the "fake of the XX century" is still the holomyth...
>
> If all was all "Made in Disneyland", we're in a whole lot worse
> trouble than even you can imagine.
>
> You really need to get out more.  Have you ever been outside your room/
> cell?
>
>  ~ BG


they seem to have you by the balls, or should that be your brain?

Key words: Detachment from reality.
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/new_sheeple_dees.jpg

Perhaps YOU should have a cup...Put some Ouzo in it as well. My ego is
fine, but I also know that it is possible that we are the victims of a
gigantic hoax... I don't need to boast about my abilities but you seem
to have that need.

NASA never claimed that the van Allen belts are harmless. In fact,
anyone putting a satellite into orbit near them has to make sure it's
well shielded. Again, do some research. I'm not doing it for you.

Because I am not an arguing machine, I'm not banging my head against
this wall any further.

BradGuth

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Jun 15, 2009, 7:54:25 PM6/15/09
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> Key words: Detachment from reality.http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/new_sheeple_dees.jpg

>
> Perhaps YOU should have a cup...Put some Ouzo in it as well. My ego is
> fine, but I also know that it is possible that we are the victims of a
> gigantic hoax... I don't need to boast about my abilities but you seem
> to have that need.
>
> NASA never claimed that the van Allen belts are harmless. In fact,
> anyone putting a satellite into orbit near them has to make sure it's
> well shielded. Again, do some research. I'm not doing it for you.
>
> Because I am not an arguing machine, I'm not banging my head against
> this wall any further.

Your bipolarism and flip-flop is clearly noted.

Which side are you on right now?

Which side will you be on an hour from now, tomorrow and so forth?

Why not for the hell of it, pick one side and stick with it?

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 15, 2009, 8:38:00 PM6/15/09
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... you are ridiculing this thread with your false siding

All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
earth

The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.

BradGuth

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Jun 15, 2009, 9:40:23 PM6/15/09
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I offer no false side. Could you be a little more specific?

>
> All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
> earth

If that's what makes your bipolar self a happy camper, then so be it.

>
> The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.

I can't argue against that.

~ BG

BDK

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Jun 15, 2009, 11:52:29 PM6/15/09
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In article <999a304d-122c-458f-a37d-
88c209...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

So where does it go when it launches? Lots of people watch it go up,
Wormhole.

>
> The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.
>
>

I thought Brad was crazier than you are, but I guess I was wrong. It's
still close though.

Warhol

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Jun 16, 2009, 3:39:30 AM6/16/09
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On Jun 16, 5:52 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <999a304d-122c-458f-a37d-
> 88c209348...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

>
>
> > All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
> > earth
>
> So where does it go when it launches? Lots of people watch it go up,
> Wormhole.
>
>
>
> > The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.
>
> I thought Brad was crazier than you are, but I guess I was wrong. It's
> still close though.
>
> --
>

It does not matter what you think insofar as you can contribute
nothing of relevance to this discussion.

Now, find me a picture of the space shuttle orbiting the earth and
shows star clusters we can chart for validation. Take your time. I
have seen a picture of a space shuttle in space with a tiny stream of
water bubbles.

I have no reason to believe, I don't believe...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2721271/international_space_station_hoax_space_walks_simulated_in_a_massive_water_pool/

They are directly putting into practice Hitler’s famous saying
concerning the power of propaganda, “The bigger the lie, the more
believable it is.”

BDK

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In article <e36f89d8-0a77-4ea0-a0c4-
86ac3c...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

> On Jun 16, 5:52 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > In article <999a304d-122c-458f-a37d-
> > 88c209348...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> >
> >
> > > All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
> > > earth
> >
> > So where does it go when it launches? Lots of people watch it go up,
> > Wormhole.
> >
> >
> >
> > > The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.
> >
> > I thought Brad was crazier than you are, but I guess I was wrong. It's
> > still close though.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> It does not matter what you think insofar as you can contribute
> nothing of relevance to this discussion.

Too bad I'm not crazy, so I could help you and Brad out.

>
> Now, find me a picture of the space shuttle orbiting the earth and
> shows star clusters we can chart for validation. Take your time. I
> have seen a picture of a space shuttle in space with a tiny stream of
> water bubbles.
>
> I have no reason to believe, I don't believe...
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2721271/international_space_station_hoax_space_walks_simulated_in_a_massive_water_pool/

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA! That's hilarious. Even for you, this is out there.

And I see no reason to think you have any trace of sanity left!


>
> They are directly putting into practice Hitler=3Fs famous saying
> concerning the power of propaganda, =3FThe bigger the lie, the more
> believable it is.=3F
>

More accurately, in your case, would be "The more whacked the kooktard,
the crazier the shit he/she believes is".

Warhol

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I did not know...that the Space shuttle was so much of a National
ICON...

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml

Warhol

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On Jun 16, 9:56 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <e36f89d8-0a77-4ea0-a0c4-
> 86ac3c620...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 5:52 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > > In article <999a304d-122c-458f-a37d-
> > > 88c209348...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > > > All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
> > > > earth
>
> > > So where does it go when it launches? Lots of people watch it go up,
> > > Wormhole.
>
> > > > The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.
>
> > > I thought Brad was crazier than you are, but I guess I was wrong. It's
> > > still close though.
>
> > > --
>
> > It does not matter what you think insofar as you can contribute
> > nothing of relevance to this discussion.
>
> Too bad I'm not crazy, so I could help you and Brad out.
>
>
>
> > Now, find me a picture of the space shuttle orbiting the earth and
> > shows star clusters we can chart for validation. Take your time. I
> > have seen a picture of a space shuttle in space with a tiny stream of
> > water bubbles.
>
> > I have no reason to believe, I don't believe...
> >http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2721271/international_space_station_hoa...

>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA! That's hilarious. Even for you, this is out there.
>
> And I see no reason to think you have any trace of sanity left!
>
>
>
> > They are directly putting into practice Hitler=3Fs famous saying
> > concerning the power of propaganda, =3FThe bigger the lie, the more
> > believable it is.=3F
>
> More accurately, in your case, would be "The more whacked the kooktard,
> the crazier the shit he/she believes is".
>
> --
>


Definitely, you're the biggest blithering ignorant I've ever met in
Usenet. Not just because you don't anything about anything, you don't
even bother to f-king look it up!

Well, again, pull your head out of your arse and see above. This
debate is over.

BradGuth

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Jun 16, 2009, 10:08:33 AM6/16/09
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On Jun 16, 12:57 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I did not know...that the Space shuttle was so much of a National
> ICON...
>
> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
How does quoting everything help?

btw, that image proves the dynamic range that a modern CCD or CMOS
imager camera has to work with. If NASA wanted to, they could show
stars within the same FOV as Earth, and especially that of our
physically dark moon.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030324.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_big.jpg

~ BG


Warhol

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>  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_...
>
>  ~ BG


NASA has kept the secret very well...

TO GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9889/microwavet.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6895/cdinmicrowaweoven.jpg

Nothing can or will ever put it better than this.

NASA REALLY MOONED US!
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5845HR.jpg

Government Shill #2

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~BG wants a picture of the Space Shuttle with visible stars???? Has he no
idea how cameras work? Oh... wait... Of course not. It's ~BG.

--
Shill #2

Pay Section
Disinformation Directorate
Ministry of Information
European Division

BDK

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Jun 16, 2009, 1:07:25 PM6/16/09
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In article <96e77d13-ae90-4cbb-8d1d-b213773bb645
@g15g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

I looked this up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic

>
> Well, again, pull your head out of your arse and see above.

> This debate is over.
>

Debate? BWHAHAHAHAHA! The only debating going on is between your doctors
when they decide what meds to try on you next.

BradGuth

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Jun 16, 2009, 1:10:00 PM6/16/09
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On Jun 16, 8:19 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 4:08 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 12:57 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I did not know...that the Space shuttle was so much of a National
> > > ICON...
>
> > >http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
>
> > How does quoting everything help?
>
> > btw, that image proves the dynamic range that a modern CCD or CMOS
> > imager camera has to work with.  If NASA wanted to, they could show
> > stars within the same FOV as Earth, and especially that of our
> > physically dark moon.
>
> >  http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
> >  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030324.html
> >  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_...
>
> >  ~ BG
>
> NASA has kept the secret very well...
>
> TO GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE:http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9889/microwavet.jpghttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6895/cdinmicrowaweoven.jpg

>
> Nothing can or will ever put it better than this.
>
> NASA REALLY MOONED US!http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5845HR.jpg

The following image is what clearly proves the kind of dynamic range
that a modern CCD or CMOS imager outfitted camera has to work with, is
way more than good enough. If our NASA wanted to, they could just as
easily show us a few of those brighter stars (especially Sirius)
within the same FOV as beyond the horizon of Earth, and especially as
viewed along with that of our physically darker moon (roughly a third
as reflective as Earth w/o clouds). Of course other planets
(especially Venus) are going to record as so much brighter than stars,
and most often should look at least as bright or brighter than our
physically dark as coal moon, and without a UV and purplish hue cutoff
filter is where the absolute vibrance of the Sirius star/solar system
comes into an unfiltered CCD view.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030324.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_big.jpg

Stellar UV to the eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is actually a hard
color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's no atmospheric
filtering taking place.

~ BG

BradGuth

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On Jun 16, 8:21 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:56:52 -0400, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> >In article <e36f89d8-0a77-4ea0-a0c4-
> >86ac3c620...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

> >> On Jun 16, 5:52 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <999a304d-122c-458f-a37d-
> >> > 88c209348...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
> >> > > All I can say to that is the space shuttle is hoax und never left the
> >> > > earth
>
> >> > So where does it go when it launches? Lots of people watch it go up,
> >> > Wormhole.
>
> >> > > The bigger the lie the easier it is to get people to believe it.
>
> >> > I thought Brad was crazier than you are, but I guess I was wrong. It's
> >> > still close though.
>
> >> > --
>
> >> It does not matter what you think insofar as you can contribute
> >> nothing of relevance to this discussion.
>
> >Too bad I'm not crazy, so I could help you and Brad out.
>
> >> Now, find me a picture of the space shuttle orbiting the earth and
> >> shows star clusters we can chart for validation. Take your time. I
> >> have seen a picture of a space shuttle in space with a tiny stream of
> >> water bubbles.
>
> >> I have no reason to believe, I don't believe...
> >>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2721271/international_space_station_hoa...

>
> >BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA! That's hilarious. Even for you, this is out there.
>
> >And I see no reason to think you have any trace of sanity left!
>
> ~BG wants a picture of the Space Shuttle with visible stars???? Has he no
> idea how cameras work? Oh... wait... Of course not. It's ~BG.
>
> --
> Shill #2
>
> Pay Section
> Disinformation Directorate
> Ministry of Information
> European Division

First of all, planets are not stars, and they are simply unavoidable
if the camera is in orbit of our physically dark moon.

The following image is what clearly proves the kind of dynamic range
that a modern CCD or CMOS imager outfitted camera has to work with, is
way more than good enough. If our NASA wanted to, they could just as
easily show us a few of those brighter stars (especially Sirius)
within the same FOV as beyond the horizon of Earth, and especially as
viewed along with that of our physically darker moon (roughly a third
as reflective as Earth w/o clouds). Of course other planets
(especially Venus) are going to record as so much brighter than stars,
and most often should look at least as bright or brighter than our
physically dark as coal moon, and without a UV and purplish hue cutoff
filter is where the absolute vibrance of the Sirius star/solar system
comes into an unfiltered CCD view.

Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is


actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's

no atmospheric filtering taking place. As well, the secondary/recoil
photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.

~ BG

Government Shill #2

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yeah. Sure ~ BG. Because YOU say so... Bwahahahahahahaha!

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman

BradGuth

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Wikipedia failed to mention that “Tics” were the new arrivals shortly
after Earth emerged from the very last ice-age w/moon, along with our
planet having a substantial seasonal tilt to boot.

First and foremost of all, planets are not stars, and they are simply
unavoidable if the camera is in orbit of Eden/Earth or that of our
physically dark Selene/moon.

The following image is what clearly proves the kind of dynamic range
that a modern CCD or CMOS imager outfitted camera has to work with, is
way more than good enough. If our NASA wanted to, they could just as
easily show us a few of those brighter stars (especially Sirius)
within the same FOV as beyond the horizon of Earth, and especially as
viewed along with that of our physically darker moon (roughly a third
as reflective as Earth w/o clouds). Of course other planets
(especially Venus) are going to record as so much brighter than stars,
and most often should look at least as bright or brighter than our
physically dark as coal moon, and without a UV and purplish hue cutoff
filter is where the absolute vibrance of the Sirius star/solar system
comes into an unfiltered CCD view.

Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is
actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's
no atmospheric filtering taking place. As well, the secondary/recoil
photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.

~ BG

BDK

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Jun 16, 2009, 1:57:31 PM6/16/09
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In article <68f54b8e-71cb-4df2-a682-
9625d4...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
> Wikipedia failed to mention that =3FTics=3F were the new arrivals shortly

> after Earth emerged from the very last ice-age w/moon, along with our
> planet having a substantial seasonal tilt to boot.

Um, yes, uhh, lollipop....of course.


>
> First and foremost of all, planets are not stars, and they are simply
> unavoidable if the camera is in orbit of Eden/Earth or that of our
> physically dark Selene/moon.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

>
> The following image is what clearly proves the kind of dynamic range
> that a modern CCD or CMOS imager outfitted camera has to work with, is
> way more than good enough. If our NASA wanted to, they could just as
> easily show us a few of those brighter stars (especially Sirius)
> within the same FOV as beyond the horizon of Earth, and especially as
> viewed along with that of our physically darker moon (roughly a third
> as reflective as Earth w/o clouds). Of course other planets
> (especially Venus) are going to record as so much brighter than stars,
> and most often should look at least as bright or brighter than our
> physically dark as coal moon, and without a UV and purplish hue cutoff
> filter is where the absolute vibrance of the Sirius star/solar system
> comes into an unfiltered CCD view.
>
> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030324.html
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_big.jpg
>
> Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is
> actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's
> no atmospheric filtering taking place. As well, the secondary/recoil
> photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
> unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
> simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.
>
> ~ BG
>


Photoshop lollipop. 10-4 good buddy.

BradGuth

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Jun 16, 2009, 2:08:37 PM6/16/09
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>  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_...

>
> Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is
> actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's
> no atmospheric filtering taking place.  As well, the secondary/recoil
> photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
> unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
> simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.

btw, notice how a Republican Zionist Nazi like BDK responds.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 16, 2009, 3:01:46 PM6/16/09
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On Jun 16, 7:57 pm, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <68f54b8e-71cb-4df2-a682-
> 9625d46f6...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says...
> >  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_...

>
> > Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is
> > actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's
> > no atmospheric filtering taking place.  As well, the secondary/recoil
> > photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
> > unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
> > simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.
>
> >  ~ BG
>
> Photoshop lollipop. 10-4 good buddy.
> --
>


Here is a picture you might like BDK:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7505/take2.png

...Ooh..Footer would be delighted..Enlightened..and..with..
..proper software..even illuminated...

Warhol

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Jun 16, 2009, 3:09:30 PM6/16/09
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we must have hit a old nerve I think... they are like flies...

..this is best one........

.."supposed retro-reflectors".....

Re: Moon Hoax people
Source:
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.space.history/2005-12/msg00589.html

...hehehh..where is everybody..do they got..enough..?
..all is clear..astro-nots..are out..destroyed...

BradGuth

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Jun 16, 2009, 3:43:38 PM6/16/09
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> Source:http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.space.history/2005-12/msg0058...

>
> ...hehehh..where is everybody..do they got..enough..?
> ..all is clear..astro-nots..are out..destroyed...

That's actually pretty old stuff, taken somewhat out of context and
extra wordy to boot. I can do better.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 16, 2009, 4:15:19 PM6/16/09
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My friend, they should bind and publish that thread!

The readers have everything they need to make up their minds on this
issue within that thread. Very nice work BradGuth. You have produced a
veritable mountain of reference never seen before in one place.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4002/20090426124017.jpg

They made lots of money with scale plastic models too:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1740/20090426130414.jpg

Note the abundance of stars on the box for the moonlanding kit shown
below:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2562/monogrammoonlanding.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7293/20090426130252.jpg

The pageview googlecounter for this thread shows clearly how much
interest is out there for these questions. People are curious. A
public that has been stunned so much by the web-driven awakenings that
they are no longer surprised to discover they have been deceived
anymore. They just want to know how deep these rabbit holes go. I pity
the kids in public schools wallowing in those moonlanding/space
exploration lies. Isolated from the truth.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1233/20090426130449.jpg

BradGuth

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In that case, I'll do a little editing and polishing with even better
stuff and fewer words.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 16, 2009, 9:40:35 PM6/16/09
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Mathematical impossibilities...
http://images.absoluteastronomy.com/images/logomain.gif

SPACETRAVEL and THE MOON - The REAL Truth

The authorities expect you to simply take at their word the absurd and
unfounded story that there is a large mass orbiting the earth.
Obviously we are expected to be mere sheep, going along with whatever
the Thought Police would tell us. However, when one looks at THE
FACTS, in an atmosphere free from bias and academic repression, one
sees a very different story.

Citizen sick of the Propaganda and Lies presented to us through a
controlled media. Wanting to expose who is responsible for the Lies of
History, and Why!

Fighting for Freedom of Speech and true Justice.

The Art of Deception Epitomized

BDK

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:43:38 AM6/17/09
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In article <be3db529-eee1-4e94-b347-34ee03fe0f90
@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
> > Wikipedia failed to mention that =3FTics=3F were the new arrivals shortly


What's wrong Brad? Angry I don't believe in your Venusian delusion?

LOL, I'm neither a republican or a zionist. Just something you and
Wormhole can never be....sane.

BDK

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:44:48 AM6/17/09
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In article <057a7be9-1ddd-42cc-959e-de457d02bdc9
@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...

Does better mean more insane?

BDK

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:47:59 AM6/17/09
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In article <ad9363a6-977a-4499-821e-
910f1b...@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

Why would I like a lame photoshopped pic?

>
> ...Ooh..Footer would be delighted..Enlightened..and..with..
> ..proper software..even illuminated...
>

Footer? You need to translate your insane ravings to English so I can
laugh at them.

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 9:39:41 AM6/17/09
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On Jun 16, 10:19 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >First of all, planets are not stars, and they are simply unavoidable
> >if the camera is in orbit of our physically dark moon.
>
> >The following image is what clearly proves the kind of dynamic range
> >that a modern CCD or CMOS imager outfitted camera has to work with, is
> >way more than good enough.  If our NASA wanted to, they could just as
> >easily show us a few of those brighter stars (especially Sirius)
> >within the same FOV as beyond the horizon of Earth, and especially as
> >viewed along with that of our physically darker moon (roughly a third
> >as reflective as Earth w/o clouds).  Of course other planets
> >(especially Venus) are going to record as so much brighter than stars,
> >and most often should look at least as bright or brighter than our
> >physically dark as coal moon, and without a UV and purplish hue cutoff
> >filter is where the absolute vibrance of the Sirius star/solar system
> >comes into an unfiltered CCD view.
>
> >http://www.hoax-slayer.com/sunset-europe-africa.shtml
> >http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030324.html
> >http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0303/europesunset_livingearth_...

>
> >Stellar UV to the satellite eye of a naked CCD or CMOS imager is
> >actually a hard color/hue spectrum to avoid, especially when there's
> >no atmospheric filtering taking place.  As well, the secondary/recoil
> >photons coming off our physically dark moon are going to be
> >unavoidably purple/bluish saturated unless bandpass filtered out or
> >simply PhotoShop excluded after the fact.
>
> Yeah. Sure ~ BG. Because YOU say so... Bwahahahahahahaha!
>
> --
> Shill #2
>
> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>  theobviousgcashman

You and others of your brown-nosed mainstream kind are always so gosh
darn funny, so obfuscating and otherwise in perpetual denial of your
denial. You know nothing of image processing, because you've never
published or otherwise contributed anything of your supposed
expertise. You only believe in the conditional laws of physics, as
well as obfuscate by way of excluding all science that doesn't comply
to your closed mindset.


Even when your own best science that's published for all to see proves
my point, you stomp off mad as hell and claim that I and others can't
possibly deductively think for ourselves. You folks can't even accept
anything from Kodak as being truth worthy.
~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:27:49 AM6/17/09
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Hubble's Latest Photographs...

http://tinyurl.com/Misbah
Hole in One

Government Shill #2

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Jun 17, 2009, 11:42:38 AM6/17/09
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Ah! So you admit to being a Nazi? I see.

<turns off kOOk Emulator 4.1>

Warhol

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Jun 17, 2009, 12:34:29 PM6/17/09
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On Jun 13, 7:40 pm, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <1e4d682b-241d-4a7d-9b1f-
> 0d1e9dbae...@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, rschil...@wi.rr.com says...
>
>
>
> > The anti-Christ is not against Jesus,
> > he is against those who will survive global disaster
> > because those who survive are the new world goverment,
> > the only one religion as one government.
> > This makes that one uniform nature of salvation as
> >  a christ who does things as Jesus did and would have if he were here
> > now.
> > Thus an anti-Christ does not declare to be against Jesus.
> > It is not just being a rep of authority instead of Jesus
> > (concerning asteroids).
> > Anyone who also beleives that he or it is the rep of Jesus
> > (chosen by Jesus or Allah)
> > instead of the true identity of that church and government
> > is thus against the one who really is going to do it.
>
> > In other words Herod thought he was the christ-king
> > and so he tried to have baby Jesus killed just because
> > someone else said Jesus was it, or any baby in Bethlehem.
> > So too at 33 Jesus represented a rule other than the next
> > Herod or Pilot or Caesar.
>
> > So, any current religion or any government if right about
> > an asteroid would be the next survivor. Our government
> > might be jealous, or Satan might be well motiviating them.
> > The Christ cannot warn of an asteroid if he doesnt know
> > which date, and the USA thinks it would know before
> > anyone else. That makes the USA a false christ,
> > a replacement christ, a better christ, than any other current
> > christ and that makes them anti-christ if they are their
> > own choice of salvation rather than who Jesus picks.
>
> > My belief is 40 days after Yom Kippur, if Obama kills
> > the saints on that day, an asteroid has always been
> > in orbit that will hit 40 days later this year...
> > (my previous concept was Passover sacrifice 1997 or 2009)
> > whether the christ dies or not,
> > and whether this world kills that christ or not,
> > the asteroid comes and hits this year, BUT God and Satan
> > are at a manipulation of man to win their controversy
> > by getting their own concept to occur. Who knows us better,
> > God or Satan? Which way will happen?
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!
> --
>


I wouldn't laugh if I were you... When the shift hits the fan..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3uhcRe60Zo

Soon SATAN and his Agents are going to be exposed

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:23:50 PM6/17/09
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If that's the new and improved Hubble (Jan. 24, 2004), perhaps you've
been locked away and cutoff from the real world for far too long.

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:15:28 PM6/17/09
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It is safe to hold our breath, or by soon do you mean within this
century?

~ BG

BDK

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:20:40 PM6/17/09
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In article <46b55d28-4116-44f2-a4ac-
1c79d3...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...

Typical kooker video. Lots of spooky music, flashing images, and it
sucks you weak minded loons right in.

>
> Soon SATAN and his Agents are going to be exposed
>

Satan is a fairy tale, as are most of your beliefs.

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:27:50 PM6/17/09
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On Jun 17, 8:42 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:43:38 -0400, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> >In article <be3db529-eee1-4e94-b347-34ee03fe0f90
> >@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says...

BDK is actually much worse than a pretend Atheist Nazi.

~ BG

Government Shill #2

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Jun 17, 2009, 3:08:33 PM6/17/09
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:50 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 17, 8:42�am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>BDK is actually much worse than a pretend Atheist Nazi.


Pretend Atheist Nazi? You're a funny dud, ~BG.

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 4:02:37 PM6/17/09
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On Jun 17, 12:08 pm, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:50 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>

We already know that you and others of your silly kind never really
know anything, and/or would never share of what little you ever did
know, but why do you suppose that "Incoming Meteor Data Now
Classified"?

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 5:31:00 PM6/17/09
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On Jun 12, 9:43 pm, "nightbat" <night...@home.ffni.com> wrote:
> nightbat wrote
>
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:63bfa303-7db0-45f6...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > Incoming Meteor Data Now Classified
>
> > A new U.S. policy decision now deems that observational data of
> > incoming space rocks entering the atmosphere is now classified.
>
> > For the past 15 years, The U.S. government shared classified satellite
> > data with scientists studying the characterizations of meteoroids and
> > asteroids as they crash through the atmosphere.
>
> > "It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one
> > scientist involved.
> > "Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was
> > getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable
> > change in policy."
>
> >http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=79138
>
> > Do they have something to hide?
> >http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
>
> > Curious, for sure....hmmmm...
>
> nightbat
>
>              Thank you Commander Warhol now with only 3 years left and
> counting towards the predicted end of time, news black out is to be
> expected. Analog free over the air signals are presently being removed also,
> oh the humanity! and sal is nursing home bound.
>
>                carry on,
>                the nightbat

So, why are the "Incoming Meteor Data Now Classified"?

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:08:15 PM6/17/09
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for news black out...

BradGuth

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:48:16 PM6/17/09
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Perhaps for mitigating commercial aircraft liability insurance
purposes, as well as for avoiding whatever doom and gloom panic that
would likely happen if something seriously big was headed our way,
that which nothing much could be done except wait and see.

If a truly big one was coming our way, it would take most all of our
government resources just to accommodate and protect the top 0.1%
(300,000) of us..

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:06:28 PM6/17/09
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This is the only one logical explanation for the CRAZY activities that
are going on all over the world. Whatever it is, they have kept it
hush hush. That's the freaky part.

maybe, though they wouldn't tell us. They think it is out of
compassion. What good would it do to tell us?

That would explain the underground centers in Colorado, Utah, Nevada
and else where in the world?

A there is a newly discovered asteroid (2009HC82) spotted May 1, 2009
and it is in a backward orbit around the sun and very near Earth.

Headlines: Asteroid flew in and destroyed the earth and saved the
planet from being wiped out by Swine flu.

BradGuth

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Jun 18, 2009, 1:18:59 AM6/18/09
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Panspermia Swine Flu has been less lethal than previously thought,
although it could mutate into being something worse than MRSA.

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 18, 2009, 4:10:18 PM6/18/09
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Of course, 99.9% of this Usenet/newsgroup from hell doesn't give a
tinkers damn either way, as well as do the rich and powerful care
less. All we hear from the likes of Dick Cheney is that we need to
provoke and subsequently get on with WWIII before it's too late.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 18, 2009, 7:50:58 PM6/18/09
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people are going to lose their damn minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_CxIxM0Khg

The President is black in Deep Impact as well.

DONT WORRY! THE PPPPPPPPPPPPPRRRRRRRRRRRRRRESIDENT WILL SAVE US!


OH NO!
THE PLAN FAILED! THE WORLD IS FALLING APART!

AIR PLANE CRASH! OCEAN SURGE! HURR HURR HURR!!


WE MUST BUILD ARK TO SAVE MANKIND! BUT MANKIND IS TOO FUCKING STUPID
AND BECOMES HYSTERIC IN A MOB. BUM RUSH THE ARK!! HURR HURR HURR!!

It ends with some warm comfy little heart felt speech about how WE
MUST PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. HUMANS WILL LIVE ON, BECAUSE WE ARE
SELFISH FUCKS HURR HURR HURR!

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 12:09:11 AM6/19/09
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On Jun 12, 10:36 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Incoming Meteor Data Now Classified
>
> A new U.S. policy decision now deems that observational data of
> incoming space rocks entering the atmosphere is now classified.
>
> For the past 15 years, The U.S. government shared classified satellite
> data with scientists studying the characterizations of meteoroids and
> asteroids as they crash through the atmosphere.
>
> "It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one
> scientist involved.
> "Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was
> getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable
> change in policy."
>
> http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=79138
>
> Do they have something to hide?http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
>
> Curious, for sure....hmmmm...

Spysat meteor observations now forbidden / Pat Flannery

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/7a2f0e0eab14cfb5?hl=en#

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/pentagon-blinds-astronomers-to-armageddon/

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 12:45:48 PM6/19/09
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In Usenet/newsgroups there’s a great deal of dearth, meaning a serious
lack of just about everything that matters. First to go out the
window, after history is sufficiently skewed in order to suit the
mainstream mindset, is the whole truth as based upon the regular laws
of physics and best available science. Now it seems our public funded
spysat and deep space network of probes and astronomy is becoming off-
limits to those of us in need of fundamental science pertaining to the
daunting task of detecting and tracking NEOs and potentially lethal
meteors.

We’re already being denied 99.9% of public funded science. What’s
next?

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 12:48:18 PM6/19/09
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On Jun 18, 9:09 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 12, 10:36 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Incoming Meteor Data Now Classified
>
> > A new U.S. policy decision now deems that observational data of
> > incoming space rocks entering the atmosphere is now classified.
>
> > For the past 15 years, The U.S. government shared classified satellite
> > data with scientists studying the characterizations of meteoroids and
> > asteroids as they crash through the atmosphere.
>
> > "It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one
> > scientist involved.
> > "Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was
> > getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable
> > change in policy."
>
> >http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=79138
>
> > Do they have something to hide?http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
>
> > Curious, for sure....hmmmm...
>
> Spysat meteor observations now forbidden / Pat Flannery
>
>  http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/7a2...
>
>  http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/pentagon-blinds-astronomers-t...

In Usenet/newsgroups there’s a great deal of dearth, meaning a serious
lack of just about everything that matters. First to go out the

window, after history is sufficiently skewed and obfuscated in order


to suit the mainstream mindset, is the whole truth as based upon the
regular laws of physics and best available science. Now it seems our
public funded spysat and deep space network of probes and astronomy is

becoming off-limits to those of us in need of fundamental data and
basic science pertaining to the daunting task of detecting and
tracking NEOs and those potentially lethal meteors.

We’re already being denied 99.9% of public funded science as is.
What’s next?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 12:59:58 PM6/19/09
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so it begins...

the end of whose world ? is the question...

all them poor bastards living in third world countries dont have a
world to lose lol

Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 1:10:26 PM6/19/09
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I just did a little research on the origin of the Phoenix myth.
According to a BBC Wikipedia-type site, the Phoenix visits Egypt
cyclically "streaking across the sky with a long fire-like tail
billowing behind it." It then crashed, set fire to itself and from its
ashes a new Phoenix arose. There is also this idea of the Phoenix
"eggs".

As I see it, this is a perfect description of Cometh of Warhol. The
ancients who have witnessed a past pole shift could have knew that
Cometh of Warhol hit the earth, causing a pole shift and igniting all
the volcanes (the Phoenix burning up).

In fact, no one knows the actual origin of the Phoenix myth, but the
most recent theory is, in fact, that it refers to a comet, with its
fiery tail. That explanation is close but no cigar as only Wormwood
would have the "impact" that would make that particular "comet" the
central myth of an entire people!

Do we need Spysat meteor observations? No, we have still the crop
circles...

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 6:16:34 PM6/19/09
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Apparently the Zionist Nazis have had plans that'll take care of those
third world folks, especially of any dark skinned individuals will get
resolved first thing after Muslims get eliminated. As I said before;
what could possibly go wrong?

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 6:28:56 PM6/19/09
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Geomagnetic pole shifting or swapping should not directly cause
geological trauma. However, indirectly by way of letting in more
solar X-ray, moon gamma and cosmic radiation is going to be
troublesome if not insurmountable to many kinds of complex life on
this Eden/Earth. However, the rich and powerful shouldn't suffer.

As we lose another small portion of our atmosphere (as likely to
happen in 2012), perhaps our artificially replacing the loss of
atmospheric mass with CO2 could actually help save our frail DNA. I'd
rather adapt as to living within 1000 ppm CO2 than having to die from
the inside out because of too much solar, moon and cosmic radiation.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 7:24:16 PM6/19/09
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what could go wrong when two dogs fight for a bone?

A Lord Ye professed that he loved dragons. To prove it, he drew
dragons everywhere. When the real dragons paid him a visit, he was
scared to death. One may not do what he claims to be interested in
doing.

Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 7:27:33 PM6/19/09
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On this occassion join me to communicate with the ONE AND ONLY -

[O Gran'Da'Dy, you are our Lord. None has the right to be worshipped
but You. You created us and we am your slave, and we abide by your
covenant and promise as best we can. We take refuge in You from the
evil which we have committed. we acknowledge your favor/blessings upon
us and we acknowledge our sins, so forgive us, for verily, none can
forgive except You.]

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 7:49:57 PM6/19/09
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Where's the advanced research and applied technology in your solution
to this global mess?

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 7:52:33 PM6/19/09
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We need serious physics and science here, not some new kind of
alternative faith-based hocus pocus.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 8:04:57 PM6/19/09
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What don't they want us to look at?

Warhol

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Jun 19, 2009, 9:42:49 PM6/19/09
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violent fools rush in where angels fear to tread
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6316434CmmhYeXy

BradGuth

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Jun 19, 2009, 11:29:09 PM6/19/09
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At anything that's not 100% inert and otherwise capable of interacting
with Earth.

The Sirius star/solar system and the planet Venus are taboo/
nondisclosure rated.

Even Selene L1 is top secret classified.

~ BG

BradGuth

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Jun 20, 2009, 2:43:05 PM6/20/09
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> violent fools rush in where angels fear to treadhttp://www.veoh.com/videos/v6316434CmmhYeXy

On Jun 20, 6:55 am, "gegarci...@gmail.com" <gegarci...@gmail.com>
wrote:
: At least two space debris reentries were to happen on May 31 - but
: they were not entering at around 1:30 UTC Jun 1...

: http://www.reentrynews.com/past.html

That's good to know. When they say "At least two", doesn't this
statement qualifier suggest they may have missed a few?

How about meteors of any significant mass?

It seems the underlying drawback to using such hardened alloys and
composites is that these kinds of critically formulated aircraft
should tend to shatter rather than bend and tear apart if encountering
a kg or larger worth of meteorite or artificial space debris.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 20, 2009, 8:31:07 PM6/20/09
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ofcourse they missed... Send me some space junk, aliens!
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/06/greece-meteor-news-thessaloniki.html

Probably angry upset aliens throwing our space junk back down to
Earth... I'd believe this, but Aussies aren't putting the space junk
up there.

And the news from UK.
"Meteor shower over English Channel sparks hundreds of calls to
Coastguard"

Strange lights spotted over the English Channel prompted hundreds of
people to call the Coastguard.
A Solent Coastguard spokesman said: 'There were reports of flares all
down the coast which went on for about half an hour, but there was a
forecast for a meteor shower.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193310/Mysterious-lights-English-Channel-spark-hundreds-calls-coastguard.html?ITO=1490

There are only going to be more and more fireballs as the tail of
Cometh of Warhol continues to hit the earth.

And so it begins.....

BradGuth

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Jun 21, 2009, 1:29:57 AM6/21/09
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> ofcourse they missed... Send me some space junk, aliens!http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/06/greece-meteor-news-...

>
> Probably angry upset aliens throwing our space junk back down to
> Earth... I'd believe this, but Aussies aren't putting the space junk
> up there.
>
> And the news from UK.
> "Meteor shower over English Channel sparks hundreds of calls to
> Coastguard"
>
> Strange lights spotted over the English Channel prompted hundreds of
> people to call the Coastguard.
> A Solent Coastguard spokesman said: 'There were reports of flares all
> down the coast which went on for about half an hour, but there was a
> forecast for a meteor shower.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193310/Mysterious-lights-Eng...

>
> There are only going to be more and more fireballs as the tail of
> Cometh of Warhol continues to hit the earth.
>
> And so it begins.....

Perhaps that big new star will soon become Betelgeuse, a once 30 solar
mass that's a 1%/year shrinking 20 solar mass of a red supergiant
that's going to blow. Either that or Sirius A as having lost nearly
30% of its mass shouldn't be too far behind, especially if Sirius B
merges with Sirius A.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 21, 2009, 10:51:52 AM6/21/09
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What we had thought seems to be the truth...

Air France Flight 447 Destroyed By Meteorite?
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/186672-Air-France-Flight-447-Destroy

Amazing. We are now denied the right to know what is going on in the
skies above us.

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
A killer rock, that’s what you are;
Flashing through the southern night,
You hit the Airbus in mid-flight,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
Next time try to plunk a Coffee Boy.

BradGuth

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Jun 21, 2009, 11:34:47 AM6/21/09
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> Air France Flight 447 Destroyed By Meteorite?http://www.sott.net/articles/show/186672-Air-France-Flight-447-Destroy

>
> Amazing. We are now denied the right to know what is going on in the
> skies above us.
>
> Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
> A killer rock, that’s what you are;
> Flashing through the southern night,
> You hit the Airbus in mid-flight,
> Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
> Next time try to plunk a Coffee Boy.

The odds were against us all along, whereas eventually an aircraft was
going to encounter a reentering bit of meteorite or that of
terrestrial space debris. As the onset of an ever increasing gauntlet
of meteorites and perhaps even an asteroid or two simply can not be so
easily obfuscated (banished/excluded) from public record.

The passing shockwave alone from a near miss could tear the bejesus
out of such an aircraft.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 21, 2009, 12:50:14 PM6/21/09
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This is not fantasy... it is in the Bible:

Revelation 8:

1WHEN HE [the Lamb] broke open the seventh seal, there was silence for
about half an hour in heaven.

2Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were
given seven trumpets.

3And another angel came and stood over the altar. He had a golden
censer, and he was given very much incense (fragrant spices and gums
which exhale perfume when burned), that he might mingle it with the
prayers of all the people of God (the saints) upon the golden altar
before the throne.(A)

4And the smoke of the incense (the perfume) arose in the presence of
God, with the prayers of the people of God (the saints), from the hand
of the angel.

5So the angel took the censer and filled it with fire from the altar
and cast it upon the earth. Then there followed peals of thunder and
loud rumblings and blasts and noises, and flashes of lightning and an
earthquake.(B)

6Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound
them.

7The first angel blew [his] trumpet, and there was a storm of hail and
fire mingled with blood cast upon the earth. And a third part of the
earth was burned up and a third of the trees was burned up and all the
green grass was burned up.(C)

8The second angel blew [his] trumpet, and something resembling a great
mountain, blazing with fire, was hurled into the sea.(D)

9And a third of the sea was turned to blood, a third of the living
creatures in the sea perished, and a third of the ships were
destroyed.

10The third angel blew [his] trumpet, and a huge star fell from
heaven, burning like a torch, and it dropped on a third of the rivers
and on the springs of water--

11And the name of the star is Wormwood. A third part of the waters was
changed into wormwood, and many people died from using the water,
because it had become bitter.

12Then the fourth angel blew [his] trumpet, and a third of the sun was
smitten, and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that
[the light of] a third of them was darkened, and a third of the
daylight [itself] was withdrawn, and likewise a third [of the light]
of the night was kept from shining.

13Then I [looked and I] saw a solitary eagle flying in midheaven, and
as it flew I heard it crying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe to those
who dwell on the earth, because of the rest of the trumpet blasts
which the three angels are about to sound!

As war draws near SUDDENLY a massive meteor strikes Earth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5tYTR1N1k

BradGuth

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Jun 21, 2009, 12:56:43 PM6/21/09
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Since there are far more Muslims than Zionist/Jews, means the odds of
the most surviving population of faith on Earth will be Muslim.
What's in their version of the bible?

Which faiths are most capable of surviving w/o technology, off the
land and sea?

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 21, 2009, 3:13:51 PM6/21/09
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None... all faiths are corrupted... So are they going to tell us? We
have to wait till wormwood renders the waters bitter then in one night
and day the world will known who to follow... The world is controlled
by the devil and his forces...

Impact is Atlantic and can be as far as Western Europe and Eastern US.

The impact result in tectonic movement...

So it begins...

BradGuth

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Jun 21, 2009, 4:19:21 PM6/21/09
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For Christ's sake, not NYC again.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 21, 2009, 6:01:50 PM6/21/09
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To bring destruction to a city or town near you...

Only Gran'Da'Dy can reveal true understanding of future events.
Wormwood is called a bright star which falls from heaven on the
springs and bodies of water.

Revelations tells us that the beast sits on top of many waters and the
waters are the "sea of Religeons". The beast comes "out of the sea",
meaning out of humanity.

Revelations also tells us that a star is given the key to the abyss
and the "star" unlocks the abyss.

And now a word, in uncouth rhyme Of what shall be in future time

Then upside down the world shall be And gold found at the root of tree
All England's sons that plough the land Shall oft be seen with Book in
hand The poor shall now great wisdom know Great houses stand in
farflung vale All covered o'er with snow and hail

A carriage without horse will go Disaster fill the world with woe. In
London, Primrose Hill shall be In centre hold a Bishop's See

Around the world men's thoughts will fly Quick as the twinkling of an
eye. And water shall great wonders do How strange. And yet it shall
come true.

Through towering hills proud men shall ride No horse or ass move by
his side. Beneath the water, men shall walk Shall ride, shall sleep,
shall even talk. And in the air men shall be seen In white and black
and even green

A great man then, shall come and go For prophecy declares it so.

In water, iron, then shall float As easy as a wooden boat Gold shall
be seen in stream and stone In land that is yet unknown.

And England shall admit a Jew You think this strange, but it is true
The Jew that once ws held in scorn Shall of a Christian then be born.

A house of glass shall come to pass In England. But Alas, alas A war
will follow with the work Where dwells the Pagan and the Turk

These states will lock in fiercest strife And seek to take each others
life. When North shall thus divide the south And Eagle build in Lions
mouth Then tax and blood and cruel war Shall come to every humble
door.

Three times shall lovely sunny France Be led to play a bloody dance
Before the people shall be free Three tyrant rulers shall she see.

Three rulers in succession be Each springs from different dynasty.
Then when the fiercest strife is done England and France shall be as
one.

The British olive shall next then twine In marriage with a german
vine. Men walk beneath and over streams Fulfilled shall be their
wondrous dreams.

For in those wondrous far off days The women shall adopt a craze To
dress like men, and trousers wear And to cut off their locks of hair
They'll ride astride with brazen brow As witches do on broomstick now.

And roaring monsters with man atop Does seem to eat the verdant crop
And men shall fly as birds do now And give away the horse and plough.

There'll be a sign for all to see Be sure that it will certain be.
Then love shall die and marriage cease And nations wane as babes
decrease

And wives shall fondle cats and dogs And men live much the same as
hogs.

In nineteen hundred and twenty six Build houses light of straw and
sticks. For then shall mighty wars be planned And fire and sword shall
sweep the land.

When pictures seem alive with movements free When boats like fishes
swim beneath the sea, When men like birds shall scour the sky Then
half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.

For those who live the century through In fear and trembling this
shall do. Flee to the mountains and the dens To bog and forest and
wild fens.

For storms will rage and oceans roar When Gabriel stands on sea and
shore And as he blows his wondrous horn Old worlds die and new be
born.

A fiery dragon will cross the sky Six times before this earth shall
die Mankind will tremble and frightened be for the sixth heralds in
this prophecy.

For seven days and seven nights Man will watch this awesome sight. The
tides will rise beyond their ken To bite away the shores and then The
mountains will begin to roar And earthquakes split the plain to shore.

And flooding waters, rushing in Will flood the lands with such a din
That mankind cowers in muddy fen And snarls about his fellow men.

He bares his teeth and fights and kills And secrets food in secret
hills And ugly in his fear, he lies To kill marauders, thieves and
spies.

Man flees in terror from the floods And kills, and rapes and lies in
blood And spilling blood by mankinds hands Will stain and bitter many
lands

And when the dragon's tail is gone, Man forgets, and smiles, and
carries on To apply himself - too late, too late For mankind has
earned deserved fate.

His masked smile - his false grandeur, Will serve the Gods their anger
stir. And they will send the Dragon back To light the sky - his tail
will crack Upon the earth and rend the earth And man shall flee, King,
Lord, and serf.

But slowly they are routed out To seek diminishing water spout And men
will die of thirst before The oceans rise to mount the shore.

And lands will crack and rend anew You think it strange. It will come
true.

And in some far off distant land Some men - oh such a tiny band Will
have to leave their solid mount And span the earth, those few to
count, Who survives this (unreadable) and then Begin the human race
again.

But not on land already there But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare
Not every soul on Earth will die As the Dragons tail goes sweeping by.

Not every land on earth will sink But these will wallow in stench and
stink Of rotting bodies of beast and man Of vegetation crisped on
land.

But the land that rises from the sea Will be dry and clean and soft
and free Of mankinds dirt and therefore be The source of man's new
dynasty.

And those that live will ever fear The dragons tail for many year But
time erases memory You think it strange. But it will be.

And before the race is built anew A silver serpent comes to view And
spew out men of like unknown To mingle with the earth now grown Cold
from its heat and these men can Enlighten the minds of future man.

To intermingle and show them how To live and love and thus endow The
children with the second sight. A natural thing so that they might
Grow graceful, humble and when they do The Golden Age will start anew.

The dragon's tail is but a sign For mankind's fall and man's decline.
And before this prophecy is done I shall be burned at the stake, at
one My body singed and my soul set free You think I utter blasphemy
You're wrong. These things have come to me This prophecy will come to
be.

These verses were on the outer wrapping of the scrolls

I know I go - I know I'm free I know that this will come to be.
Secreted this - for this will be Found by later dynasty

A dairy maid, a bonny lass Shall kick this stone as she does pass And
five generations she shall breed Before one male child does learn to
read.

This is then held year by year Till an iron monster trembling fear
eats parchment, words and quill and ink And mankind is given time to
think.

And only when this comes to be Will mankind read this prophecy But one
mans sweets anothers bane So I shall not have burned in vain.

This section was kept apart from the other and it appears to have been
written together yet was in a separate jar...

The signs will be there for all to read When man shall do most heinous
deed Man will ruin kinder lives By taking them as to their wives.

And murder foul and brutal deed When man will only think of greed. And
man shall walk as if asleep He does not look - he many not peep And
iron men the tail shall do And iron cart and carriage too.

The kings shall false promise make And talk just for talkings sake And
nations plan horrific war The like as never seen before And taxes rise
and lively down And nations wear perpetual frown.

Yet greater sign there be to see As man nears latter century Three
sleeping mountains gather breath And spew out mud, and ice and death.
And earthquakes swallow town and town, In lands as yet to me unknown.

And christian one fights christian two And nations sigh, yet nothing
do And yellow men great power gain From mighty bear with whom they've
lain.

These mighty tyrants will fail to do They fail to split the world in
two. But from their acts a danger bred An ague - leaving many dead.
And physics find no remedy For this is worse than leprosy.

Oh many signs for all to see The truth of this true prophecy.

BradGuth

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Good grief, get a fresh grip on your private parts before giving this
topic anymore thought. Think about taking your medication while
you're at it.

If any of this were the handy-work of your God screwing with us, we're
in far worse shape than anyone can figure.

~ BG

Warhol

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Jun 21, 2009, 7:09:52 PM6/21/09
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Don't forget, "IMPACT" mini-series starts tonight @ 9, NBC...

It's made for tv...yes, we all know what those are like. But the
previews don't look bad at all. Here it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uylcyx3Obcw

What's more, the Christian Science Fiction Novel

Moon over Key Biscayne has already gone there:
http://www.booksandmore.4t.com/


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