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Nancy Luft

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Greetings!

Here is a copy of my latest email to keep you all updated:


### Zimmerman must be charged with PERJURY! ###
Sunday, April 22, 2012 2:57 PM
From: "nancy luft" <nan...@yahoo.com>
To: My regular email list


Greetings to you all!

George Zimmerman the non Black who murdered Black Trayvon Martin
absolutely must now be charged with PERJURY for telling lies while
under oath at his bond hearing last Friday! Zimmerman is a LIAR who
is constantly telling endless lies about what really happened and I am
truly sick and tired of him and his endless lies!

Zimmerman LIED while under oath at that bond hearing saying that he,
Zimmerman, had thought that Trayvon Martin was his age, Zimmerman's
age of 28 years old ... that is a LIE ... because Zimmerman had told
that police dispatcher, the night he murdered Trayvon Martin, that the
Black male he was following was a TEENAGER. Trayvon had just turned
17 years of age before he was murdered. Zimmerman also LIED saying
that he did not know if Trayvon was armed or not. If you read that
transcript of Zimmerman speaking on his telephone to that police
dispatcher, you will realize that Zimmerman stayed in the safety of
his truck until he saw that TRAYVON RUNNING AWAY FROM ZIMMERMAN IN
FEAR OF ZIMMERMAN, which told Zimmerman that Trayvon was NOT ARMED and
that it was safe for Zimmerman to leave the safety of his truck and
run after Trayvon, then Zimmerman LIES that that police dispatcher
that he will stop following Trayvon, as you hear Zimmerman getting out
of his truck and running after Trayvon, then telling that police
dispatcher to have that police who are coming telephone Zimmerman on
his cell phone, very obviously, because Zimmerman is running after
Trayvon and therefore cannot give that police dispatcher the exact
address of where Zimmerman is at, like that police dispatcher was
asking for.

Now there, you are both BLACK MEN, President Jackass Obama and US
Attorney General Holder, so you have a MORAL DUTY to make sure that
Zimmerman is criminally charged with committing PERJURY at this bond
hearing last Friday! Why is that so important?

Because Zimmerman always LIES about what really happened. Zimmerman
never, ever told Trayvon Martin that he, Zimmerman, was captain of a
neighborhood watch group, and why Zimmerman was following Trayvon, so
Trayvon believed that he had AN ARMED MONSTER WHO CARED TO ROB, RAPE,
AND MURDER HIM WHO WAS CRIMINALLY STALKING HIM IN THE DARK OF THE
NIGHT, that is why Trayvon decided to RUN AWAY FROM ZIMMERMAN.
Zimmerman chased down Trayvon and Zimmerman was reaching for his GUN
and that is why Trayvon Martin punched Zimmerman in his nose and that
the fight began. Trayvon Martin believed, just like every American
in that same situation would believe, that he had an ARMED MONSTER WHO
CARED TO ROB, RAPE, AND MURDER HIM criminally stalking him in the dark
of the night, and then that monster caught up with Trayvon and
confronted Trayvon and THE MONSTER WAS REACHING FOR HIS GUN, which
forced Trayvon Martin to punch that monster in his nose, to fight that
monster, to prevent that monster from getting his gun!

Well, Zimmerman keeps telling that LIE that he, Zimmerman, was on his
way back to his truck and Trayvon Martin jumped, attacked, Zimmerman,
as Zimmerman says he was reaching for his telephone.

Trayvon Martin was a GOOD CHILD and the only reason that a GOOD CHILD
would have punched Zimmerman in his nose so hard that he broke
Zimmerman's nose is if a GOOD CHILD believed that an armed monster was
criminally stalking him and then that armed monster caught up to him
and then that armed monster was REACHING FOR A GUN! GOOD CHILDREN
ARE ALL BASICALLY THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT THEIR SKIN COLOR IS.

Zimmerman had told that police dispatcher, as Zimmerman was looking
right at Trayvon Martin, THEY ARE ALL ASSHOLES, THEY ARE ALL PUNKS,
AND THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY. Zimmerman was running after Trayvon Martin
to make sure this time ... THEY DID NOT GET AWAY ... and Zimmerman
caught up to Trayvon Martin and was attempting to hold, detain,
Trayvon Martin until the police car arrived and to do that Zimmerman
was REACHING FOR HIS GUN and cared to point his LOADED GUN AT TRAYVON
MARTIN. Zimmerman never, ever told Trayvon Martin that he, Zimmerman
was the neighborhood watch captain, why he was following, running
after, Trayvon, so Trayvon believed that he has a armed monster, who
cared to rob, rape, and murder him criminally stalking him in the dark
of the night ... and once Zimmerman caught up to Trayvon Martin,
Zimmerman was REACHING FOR HIS GUN, to hold, detain, Trayvon Martin at
gun point, until the police car arrived ... and that is why Trayvon
Martin punched Zimmerman in his nose so hard it broke Zimmerman's
nose.

Zimmerman is a CRAZY MAN who loves to LIE all of the time! Zimmerman
had an insane delusion that because he was captain of his neighborhood
watch group he was some kind of police officer. ZIMMERMAN THOUGHT HE
WAS SOME KIND OF POLICE OFFICER IN HOT PURSUIT OF SUSPECTED
CRIMINAL ... when he went after Trayvon Martin and he thought that he
was better then that lowly police dispatcher and therefore refused to
obey when told to stop following Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman LIED to
that the police dispatcher saying that he would stop following
Trayvon, as Zimmerman got out of his truck to run after Trayvon.

Zimmerman is a CRAZY MAN who people say was overzealous, overly
protective, excessive aggressive, etc. Zimmerman was attempting to
protect his gated community from BLACK TEENAGE GANG BANGERS.
Zimmerman believed that ALL BLACK TEENAGERS WERE SUSPICIOUS, after all
they just might be one of those BLACK TEENAGE GANG BANGERS. The only
reason that Zimmerman thought that Trayvon Martin was SUSPICIOUS was
Trayvon Martin just happen to be a BLACK TEENAGER.

What does Trayvon Martin's parents look like, sound like, act like,
etc., President Jackass Obama and US Attorney General Holder? Oh,
they look like, sound like, act like, etc., MIDDLE CLASS BLACK PARENTS
who did a great job of raising their children. Trayvon Martin was a
high school student, who played on the high school football team,
which means that he could not smoke, he could not drink alcohol, he
could not do any illegal drugs, he had to always stay out of trouble,
and he had to pass all of his classes. His brother says that Trayvon
was a HAPPY TEENAGER WHO WAS NOT VIOLENT AT ALL. Trayvon had planned
on going to college. Trayvon Martin was A GOOD CHILD and he would
never, ever have hit Zimmerman so hard that it broke Zimmerman's nose
unless Trayvon honestly believed that Zimmerman was about to murder
him, Trayvon!

This is all about ... THE FLIGHT - FIGHT RESPONSE ... to danger.
Trayvon Martin believed that an armed monster, who cared to rob, rape,
and murder him, who was criminally stalking him in the dark of the
night, so Trayvon attempts to FLEE from that monster ... but the armed
monster runs after Trayvon and catches Trayvon and then that armed
monster reaches for his GUN ... which FORCED Trayvon to punch that
armed monster in his nose so hard it broke his nose, and FIGHT that
armed monster, so that armed monster cannot murder Trayvon. A GOOD
CHILD like Trayvon Martin had to have been terrorized to the nth
degree by Zimmerman for that GOOD CHILD to have punched Zimmerman in
his nose so hard that it broke Zimmerman's nose ... so what did
Zimmerman do to TERRORIZE Trayvon Martin? ZIMMERMAN WAS REACHING FOR
HIS GUN!


Zimmerman had told that police dispatcher that ... THEY ARE ALL
ASSHOLES, THEY ARE ALL PUNKS, AND THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY ...! So when
Zimmerman learned that Trayvon Martin was NOT ARMED, because he was
running away from Zimmerman, something that an armed person would
never do, Zimmerman LIES to that police dispatcher that he will stop
following Trayvon, as Zimmerman gets out of the safety of his truck to
run after UNARMED Trayvon, because this time ... THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
GET AWAY ... and Zimmerman catches up to Trayvon Martin and in order
to hold, detain, him for the arrival of that police car, Zimmerman
must point his loaded gun at Trayvon Martin to prevent Trayvon from
fleeing. As Zimmerman was REACHING FOR HIS GUN, Trayvon Martin
totally freaks out of his loving mind in pure terror and punched
Zimmerman in his nose so hard it breaks Zimmerman's nose, and then
Zimmerman decided to just shoot DEAD Trayvon Martin, the ASSHOLE, the
PUNK. That is, very obviously, what had to have happened simply
because that is the only reason why are GOOD CHILD like Trayvon Martin
would have hit Zimmerman in his nose so hard that it broke Zimmerman's
nose!


Now there, as BLACK MEN, President Jackass Obama and US Attorney
General Holder, might you make sure that Zimmerman is criminally
charged with having committed PERJURY at his bond hearing last
Friday? Everyone needs to learn that ZIMMERMAN IS A LIAR and he does
lie about everything!

And ALL of our mass media is RACIST to the nth degree, a fact of
life. If Zimmerman has been a BLACK MAN who had MURDERED A WHITE
GOOD CHILD, all of our mass media would be constantly saying what I
said above, a fact of life!

Like each time our mass media states that Zimmerman was captain of his
neighborhood watch group, it should always add that ALL members of
neighborhood watch groups are PRIVATE CITIZENS and they are always
told that if they see any crime, any criminals, RUN AWAY FROM THE
CRIME, THE CRIMINALS, GET SAFE, AND ONCE SAFE TELEPHONE THE POLICE AND
THE POLICE WILL COME AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE CRIMINALS ... and never,
ever attempt to go after, chase, etc., any criminals! Any time any
mass media says that Zimmerman was captain of a neighborhood watch
groups, it should always state that the police created those
neighborhood watch groups and ALL of their members are PRIVATE
CITIZENS who simply watch for crime and then report crime to the
police and the police handle the crime, and those criminals, and that
ZIMMERMAN WAS NOT OBEYING THE BASIC RULES THAT ALL MEMBERS OF ALL
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUPS ARE TOLD TO ALWAYS OBEY. All of the mass
media keeps saying simply that Zimmerman was captain of his
neighborhood watch group which IMPLIES that Zimmerman had some kind of
right to be criminally stalking utterly innocent, GOOD CHILD Trayvon
Martin, when the opposite is true ... as a member of a neighborhood
watch group, Zimmerman was told that he had no right to ever follow
anyone who he suspected had committed a crime, etc., as that was
POLICE WORK that all members of all neighborhood watch groups are
always told to telephone the police and have the police do all of that
police work.

All of our mass media never, ever says The TRUTH that Zimmerman never,
ever told Trayvon Martin who he was, that he was captain of his
neighborhood watch group and Zimmerman never, ever told Trayvon Martin
why he was following him. The TRUTH is never, ever mentioned that
Trayvon Martin had no way to know who was following him in the dark of
the night and why he was being followed.

All of our mass media never, ever says The TRUTH, that if Trayvon
Martin had been armed, he would never, ever have decided to RUN AWAY
FROM ZIMMERMAN, he would have just stood his ground and not flee at
all. The TRUTH is that an ARMED BLACK GANG BANGER would have SHOOT
ZIMMERMAN DEAD and not have run away from Zimmerman, as they do that
routinely all across our nation. The mass media never, ever says The
TRUTH that Zimmerman stayed in the SAFETY OF HIS TRUCK UNTIL HE SAW
TRAYVON RUNNING AWAY FROM HIM, and Trayvon fleeing from Zimmerman told
Zimmerman that Trayvon Martin was NOT AN ARMED BLACK GANG BANGER.

Etc.

ALL of our mass media is acting like RACIST PIGS, and the facts prove
that is The TRUTH, too. It never, ever criticizes the person who had
the lighter skin, Zimmerman, and it looks for reasons to always
criticize that DARK SKINNED NIGGER CHILD, Trayvon Martin.

Oh well, the mass media is going to cause RACE RIOTS from this FIASCO,
because it keeps refusing to just tell The TRUTH about it all.

What do the facts prove?

ZIMMERMAN IS A HABITUAL LIAR, who lies about everything!

ZIMMERMAN THOUGHT LIKE A RACIST PIG and dictated that ALL BLACK
TEENAGERS are SUSPICIOUS because they ALL might be BLACK GANG BANGERS.

ZIMMERMAN IS A CRAZY MAN who believed that he was ... A POLICE OFFICER
IN HOT PURSUIT OF A SUSPECTED CRIMINAL ... and was therefore
criminally stalking an utterly innocent GOOD CHILD who was BLACK.

That utterly innocent GOOD BLACK CHILD had absolutely no idea who
Zimmerman was and why Zimmerman kept criminally stalking him in the
dark of the night, so that GOOD BLACK CHILD thought that an armed
monster, who cared to rob, rape, and murder him was after him causing
that utterly innocent GOOD BLACK CHILD to flee from Zimmerman in fear
of his life.

Zimmerman caught that utterly innocent GOOD BLACK CHILD and Zimmerman
REACHED FOR HIS GUN, terrorizing that child out of his loving mind
that armed monster who cared to murder him, was about to murder him,
so that GOOD BLACK CHILD punched Zimmerman in his nose so hard it
broke Zimmerman's nose, and a fight for that gun started ... and
Zimmerman MURDERED that utterly innocent GOOD BLACK CHILD.

Now that is NOT SELF DEFENSE. It is just like you throw sand into
someone's face because you want a person to punch you in your nose, so
then you can pull out your hidden, loaded gun and shoot that person
dead. Doing that kind of thing is NOT SELF DEFENSE. It is never,
ever self defense if you PROVOKE A PERSON INTO A FIGHT! What
Zimmerman did was to PROVOKE AN UTTERLY INNOCENT GOOD BLACK CHILD INTO
PUNCHING HIM IN HIS NOSE, into a fight, and that is NOT SELF
DEFENSE ... IT IS ALWAYS MURDER.

I read on The Internet that Trayvon Martin was talking on his
telephone to his girl friend at the time that Zimmerman approached
him, and his girl friend heard Trayvon saying to Zimmerman ... WHO ARE
YOU? WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME? And Zimmerman did NOT answer. And
then the phone went dead. In order to hold, detain, Trayvon Martin,
for that police car that was on the way to arrive, Zimmerman needed to
take out his hidden, loaded gun, and point it at Trayvon Martin.
That was, very obviously, the only way to stop Trayvon Martin, who had
told his girl friend that he was terrorized out of his loving mind by
Zimmerman and by Zimmerman criminally stalking him, from fleeing from
Zimmerman. So as Zimmerman was REACHING FOR HIS GUN, Trayvon Martin
punched Zimmerman in his nose, in order to stop that armed monster who
was criminally stalking him from murdering him with that gun ... and
the phone then goes dead ... and Zimmerman MURDERS the utterly
innocent, GOOD BLACK CHILD Trayvon Martin. The reason why Zimmerman
has so few injuries from that fight was ZIMMERMAN WAS TRIGGER HAPPY TO
MURDER ONE OF THOSE ASSHOLES, PUNKS, WHO ALWAYS GET AWAY!

Zimmerman keeps telling LIES when he says that he was walking back to
his truck when Trayvon Martin jumped, attacked him, as he, Zimmerman
was reaching for his cell phone. From what I read on The Internet,
Trayvon Martin was speaking on his cell phone to his girl friend, and
they had talked about Trayvon getting to the safety of his home as
rapidly as Trayvon could do so, so Trayvon was moving toward his home
when Zimmerman approached him. Just no way in hell did Trayvon
Martin change his direction and follow Zimmerman as Zimmerman was
heading back to his truck ... that just never, ever happened at all.

And how would Zimmerman, who was DELUSIONAL and thought he was ... A
POLICE OFFICER IN HOT PURSUIT OF A SUSPECTED CRIMINAL ... ever hold,
detain, Trayvon Martin for the police? Zimmerman had TERRORIZED
Trayvon to FLEE FROM ZIMMERMAN, so how the hell could Zimmerman hold
Trayvon for the police to arrive? Oh, Zimmerman had to REACH FOR HIS
GUN and POINT HIS LOADED GUN AT TRAYVON TO FORCE TRAYVON TO STOP
FLEEING FROM ZIMMERMAN. Zimmerman keeps telling LIES when he keeps
saying that he was reaching for his cell phone when Trayvon Martin
punched him in his nose ... Zimmerman, very obviously, had to have
been reaching for his GUN.

Zimmerman while looking directly at Trayvon Martin had told that
police dispatcher ... THEY ARE ALL ASSHOLES, THEY ARE ALL PUNKS, AND
THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY ... so this time Zimmerman was making sure they
did not get away!

A GOOD CHILD like Trayvon Martin would have only hit Zimmerman in his
nose so hard that he broke Zimmerman's nose, if Zimmerman had been
reaching for his gun!

ZIMMERMAN IS A LIAR. Zimmerman LIED to that the police dispatcher
when he said that he would stop following Trayvon Martin. At his
bond hearing on Friday, under oath, Zimmerman LIED TWICE. And when
Zimmerman keeps saying that he was walking back to his truck and
Trayvon Martin jumped, attacked him, as he was reaching for his cell
phone, that, also, is a LIE.

Now there, might you both, President Jackass Obama and US Attorney
General Holder, PLEASE make sure that Zimmerman is criminally charged
with PERJURY, as Zimmerman, very obviously, did LIE while under oath
at his bond hearing! Everyone needs to learn that Zimmerman is a
habitual LIAR and is telling horrific lies that Trayvon Martin jumped
and attacked Zimmerman as Zimmerman was walking back to his truck and
reaching for his cell phone. Zimmerman was NOT walking back to his
truck, Zimmerman had CAPTURED Trayvon Martin, and Zimmerman was
REACHING FOR HIS GUN ... and that is the only reason why a GOOD CHILD
like Trayvon Martin would have punched Zimmerman in his nose so hard
that he broke his nose!

Oh, but what I write is only a THEORY? True! But it is the only
thing that makes any sense from the information I have been able to
learn on The Internet! Perhaps if more information was made public,
that might prove that what I say is correct?

GOOD CHILDREN, no matter what their skin color, as always GOOD
CHILDREN! Trayvon Martin was a GOOD CHILD and he just never, ever
would have decided to follow Zimmerman back to his truck and have
jumped and attacked Zimmerman, like Zimmerman keeps telling LIES about
having happened! GOOD CHILDREN DO NOT DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

Oh well, now that Zimmerman has been criminally charged with SECOND
DEGREE MURDER and could spend the rest of his life in prison, his
attorney is now saying that Zimmerman is really frightened.
Zimmerman is so afraid that at his bond hearing he took the stand and
TOLD YET MORE LIES TO HIDE THE TRUTH from everyone!

The only way to diffuse this huge mess is for The TRUTH to be made
PUBLIC. People will put together all of the pieces and The TRUTH
will be in our Black community and if justice is not done, if
Zimmerman is acquitted, that most likely will cause RACE RIOTS ... and
at this time they could morph into economical riots, which then morph
into an armed class war.

Anyhow, check the facts out, please, President Jackass Obama and US
Attorney General Holder, as there is more information then that I have
access to, as not all of the information is being made public. And
PLEASE make sure that Zimmerman is criminally charged with PERJURY, as
that rotten sick ass son of a bitch never, ever tells The TRUTH about
anything and everyone needs to learn he is a LIAR who can never, ever
be trusted to tell The TRUTH about anything!

ME? Oh, all that I can read says that Trayvon Martin was a GOOD
CHILD and therefore I will just never, ever believe that Trayvon
Martin followed Zimmerman on his way back to his truck and jumped and
attacked Zimmerman as Zimmerman was reaching for his cell phone.
GOOD CHILDREN DO NOT DO THINGS LIKE THAT! I just find it utterly
impossible to picture a GOOD CHILD like Trayvon Martin doing such a
thing.

AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE ... well ... except
for when it comes to huge riots burning all of our own US cities ...
then an ounce of prevention is worth too many tons of cure to count!

Nancy Ann Luft

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

de...@dudu.org

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Apr 22, 2012, 6:40:08 PM4/22/12
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Nancy Luft
<nan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>Here is a copy of my latest email to keep you all updated:
>
>
>### Zimmerman must be charged with PERJURY! ###

And falisifying evidence and obstruction of justice.

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 22, 2012, 8:39:51 PM4/22/12
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Since you KNOW all this, you must hav been there.

Why haven't you come forward as a witness, then?

--
"A good march should make a man with a wooden leg want to step out."--

John Phillip Sousa

Lookout

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Apr 22, 2012, 9:12:05 PM4/22/12
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There is no doubt something he said will come back to bite him in the
ass.

Flint

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Apr 23, 2012, 12:00:09 AM4/23/12
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On 4/22/2012 6:40 PM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Nancy Luft
> <nan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Here is a copy of my latest email to keep you all updated:
>>
>>
>> ### Zimmerman must be charged with PERJURY! ###
>
> And falisifying evidence and obstruction of justice.

You both are legal dipshits. No trial has been held yet, nor has
Zimmerman offered testimony at one yet. Therefore, hew can't have
possibly committed perjury... ainb't possible, no how, no way.

On top of it, the police and prosecutor already admitted they have no
evidence to refute Zim's claim of self defense.

Their case is DoA...


--
MFB

Nancy Luft

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Apr 23, 2012, 3:31:19 AM4/23/12
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On Apr 22, 9:00 pm, Flint <age...@section31.org> wrote:
> On 4/22/2012 6:40 PM, d...@dudu.org wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Nancy Luft
> > <nanl...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
> >> Greetings!
>
> >> Here is a copy of my latest email to keep you all updated:
>
> >> ### Zimmerman must be charged with PERJURY! ###
>
> > And falisifying evidence and obstruction of justice.
>
> You both are legal dipshits.  No trial has been held yet, nor has
> Zimmerman offered testimony at one yet.  Therefore, hew can't have
> possibly committed perjury... ainb't possible, no how, no way.
>
> On top of it, the police and prosecutor already admitted they have no
> evidence to refute Zim's claim of self defense.
>
> Their case is DoA...
>
> --
> MFB

Zimmerman did testify under oath last Friday at his bond hearing ...
please read the news!

Nancy Ann Luft

Nancy Luft

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Apr 23, 2012, 3:37:46 AM4/23/12
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> There is no doubt something he said will come back to bite him in the
> ass.

I think now that Zimmerman is out on bond, well, that should really
make the entire Black community extremely angry. So now perhaps if
anything else now happens, something much smaller could set off huge
riots all over our nation.

I sure wish that judge had had enough sense to keep that Crazy Man
locked up in a cage.

It is such an atrocity that Zimmerman was released on such a tiny bond
after what he did.

Nancy Luft

Flint

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:28:41 AM4/23/12
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At a fucking bail hearing, Nancy drew... His guilt has not been yet
been determined at trial. What he said at the bail hearing has
absolutely no relevance to his guilt or innocence, most of which will
probably not even be admitted as evidence during the trial phase,
hence no 'perjury', Nancy Pigbitchslutfuckingcuntskankcumreceptacle.



--
MFB

de...@dudu.org

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:40:00 AM4/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:28:41 -0400, Flint <age...@section31.org>
wrote:
It's still testifying under oath, idiot. And he perjured himself, as
well as falsified evidence.

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:36:49 AM4/23/12
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Nancy, you are a legal ignoramus.

Access to bail is covered in the Bill of Rights.

Bail is not a punishment; the ONLY purpose of bail is to ensure the
accused (who is legally innocent until convicted, remember) will be
there for trial.

Zimmerman is not seen as a flight risk.

The Founders felt bail should be reasonable; tha's what the Amendment
says. Thet felt the maximum in bail should be 1% of the accused's net
worth.

Flint

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Apr 23, 2012, 10:22:02 AM4/23/12
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Listen up cumrag, why didn't the judge charge him right then and their
then instead of simply granting him $150,000 bail??

A: Probably, just to confuse cumdrunk dipshits such as yourself who
like A_nally I_njected D_eath S_entences in their deep dudu chutes...


--
MFB

Scout

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Apr 23, 2012, 12:09:45 PM4/23/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:lrmap7dtroosdm65j...@4ax.com...
Yep, and while I see you making the accusation.... what I fail to see is any
evidence, much less proof, of the perjury you claim he committed. Hell,
you've already told us he's guilty of murder despite quite a bit of evidence
that suggests it could be self defense. One gets the idea you're a bit
prejudicial and thus your claims lack objectivity.


Tankfixer

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Apr 23, 2012, 11:59:04 PM4/23/12
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In article <22dff671-9f0a-45c4-9b00-
4b38d0...@vy9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, - Nancy Luft
nan...@yahoo.com spouted !
> I sure wish that judge had had enough sense to keep that Crazy Man
> locked up in a cage.
>

I wish the judge would keep you locked up in the crazy bin

Oglethorpe

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:27:05 AM4/24/12
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:jn3ut3$qv4$1...@dont-email.me...
The evidence is overwhelming for self defense.


Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:10:46 AM4/24/12
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The prosecution case for 2nd degree murder was prety well destroyed by
their own investigator, who admitted they had no idea who started the
altercation.

Without that, they can't prove intent.

Wirhout intent, they can't prove murder.

Manslaughter is still a possibility, but the murder charge is now
hopeless.

joeturn

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:06:28 PM4/24/12
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The whole Travon Martin thing is a psyops,all faked news,as was
Columbine,the guilford shooting,ect...

Go to wellaware1.com and check out this link

http://dallasgoldbug.com/#/gallery/

Wayne

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:56:56 PM4/24/12
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"Nancy Luft" wrote in message
news:22dff671-9f0a-45c4...@vy9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
Do you have some factual info that the rest of us don't? Or do you just
believe that Zimmerman is guilty because 1) he either initiated the events
or if not, 2) he should have taken a potentially deadly beating like a man.

de...@dudu.org

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:50:27 PM4/24/12
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:27:05 -0700, "Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com>
wrote:
What evidence?

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:59:34 PM4/24/12
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The prosecution has destroyed it's own case.

Under cross-examination, the lead investigator was forced to admit they
have no idea who initiated the confrontation.

Without that, you cannot prove intent.

If you cannot prove intent, you cannot prove murder.

A conviction for manslaughter is a remote possibility at this time, but,
legally, not murder.

Scout

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"Tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.c00m> wrote in message
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He does......it's the internet access that's a problem.


Scout

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Apr 24, 2012, 6:18:51 PM4/24/12
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"Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't call it overwhelming, suggestive certainly, but without knowing
who exactly started the violence whether Zimmerman acted in self defense is
not really known.

See, a thing to remember is that if you start the fight, it makes acting in
self defense much less of a legal option, not necessarily impossible, but
typically the person that started a fight isn't allowed to claim self
defense if he's getting his butt kicked later on in the fight.

Which is why not knowing who started the violence is so critical to whether
Zimmerman acted in self defense or not.

The evidence suggests he may have acted in self defense, and it may well be
he wins that by default, but it's not conclusively known.


Scout

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Apr 24, 2012, 6:19:45 PM4/24/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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Exactly....since we all know you ignore any evidence except that which
supports your prejudicial opinion.


de...@dudu.org

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Apr 24, 2012, 7:17:08 PM4/24/12
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I see. You don't have any evidence it was SD. Like I told you.

Scout

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Apr 24, 2012, 7:30:16 PM4/24/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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Maybe if you read my comment to him before you posted your reply you
wouldn't have made yourself look so stupid....but then you can't help
looking stupid, can you?


Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 24, 2012, 10:25:55 PM4/24/12
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You seem to be in the dark as to how a self-defense defense works.

As in any criminal prosecution, the State must prove beyond a reasonable
doubt that self defense was NOT required- i.e., that the defendent
initiated the action.

In the Martin case, the States lead investigator testified under oath
that he had no idea who initiated the dispute.

Thus, the jury MUST FIND IN ZIMMERMANS FAVOR if this is the full truth.

If they can not come up with SOLID evidence that Zimmerman initiated the
altercation, he will walk.

Lookout

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Apr 25, 2012, 5:54:00 AM4/25/12
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:27:05 -0700, "Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com>
wrote:

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No evidence has been presented yet, dumbass

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 25, 2012, 7:52:35 AM4/25/12
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Some evidence came out at the bail hearing, including the testimony of
the state's lead investigator that the State has no idea who started the
altercation. If he's telling the truth, the State can not prove a murder
charge.

de...@dudu.org

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Apr 25, 2012, 9:15:33 AM4/25/12
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:30:16 -0400, "Scout"
So show the evidence it was self defense.
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joeturn

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Apr 25, 2012, 9:56:09 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 9:15 am, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:30:16 -0400, "Scout"
>
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>
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> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
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> ><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> >news:t2dep7p9oc93ovo1q...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:19:45 -0400, "Scout"
> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
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> >>><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:qupdp7pvmf8io7781...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:27:05 -0700, "Oglethorpe" <antike...@go.com>
> >>>> wrote:
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> >>>>>"Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:jn3ut3$qv4$1...@dont-email.me...
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> >>>>>> <d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> So show the evidence it was self defense.- Hide quoted text -
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It was all a psyops played out by actors.Obamas son Ian Alexander jr
played the role of Travon.

Yes Obama does have a son as he stated it would look exactly like
travon,this was a fact.


Fact is our first lady is the mother she is also being played by
Regina King

This is our first lady and Travon


http://www.contactmusic.com/photo/regina-king-and-son-ian-alexander-jr-18th-annual-race-to-erase-ms_5646011

harry k

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Apr 25, 2012, 10:21:04 AM4/25/12
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Errm...jurors have found verdicts contrary to evidence. Happens all
too often. Getting a wrongful "guillty" verdict overturned can take
years.

Harry K

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 25, 2012, 12:16:29 PM4/25/12
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IF This case goes to trial (a very big 'if' at this point), and the jury
ignores the evidence and votes to convict, the judge has the power to
overturn the verdict.

RD Sandman

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Apr 25, 2012, 2:01:51 PM4/25/12
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de...@dudu.org wrote in news:t2dep7p9oc93ovo1q...@4ax.com:
And you have no evidence it wasn't.



--

If it weren't for my lawyer, I still be in prison.
It went a lot faster with two people digging!!

Joe Martin


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)

RD Sandman

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Apr 25, 2012, 2:02:22 PM4/25/12
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de...@dudu.org wrote in news:67ufp7lh5og415bi9...@4ax.com:
Show the evidence it wasn't.

de...@dudu.org

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Apr 25, 2012, 3:01:56 PM4/25/12
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They charged him with 2nd degree murder. They wouldn't do that if he
had concrete evidence that shows he was assaulted.

RD Sandman

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Apr 25, 2012, 3:53:49 PM4/25/12
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de...@dudu.org wrote in news:pfigp7hted45qebci...@4ax.com:
Not in court, they haven't. They presented him with a booking charge.

They wouldn't do that if he
> had concrete evidence that shows he was assaulted.

He probably doesn't. However the other side doesn't have concrete (I
assume that was an intentional pun) evidence that he wasn't either. That
is one reason why we have those things referred to as trials and due
process.

Padraigh ProAmerica

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Apr 25, 2012, 3:54:04 PM4/25/12
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The 2nd degree murder charge was filed as a plea-bargain ploy.

It's failed.

Best bet: either an amended charge of manslaughter or a total dropping
of the case. The evidence of INTENT cannot be proven.

IF there are unaltered photos of Zimmermans injuries, and IF the reports
of powder burns on Martin's hoodie are true, it will be a case of
self-defense.

Zimmerman walks.

Lookout

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:29:16 PM4/25/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:53:49 -0500, RD Sandman
Hey dipshit..he HAS been charged with 2nd degree murder. That's why he
had to have a bail hearing.
What the hell is wrong with you? You can't disagree with EVERYTHING
someone says and still be taken seriously.

Scout

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:41:03 PM4/25/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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And you still haven't read it.

Scout

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:42:16 PM4/25/12
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"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Evidence? Dudu, don't need no stinking evidence....he merely has to assert
what he wants and then claim that it's up to other people to prove him
wrong.


Scout

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:44:02 PM4/25/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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That's not evidence it wasn't self defense.

I will simply accept your admission you consider anyone charged with a crime
to be guilty no matter what the actual facts are.


> They wouldn't do that if he
> had concrete evidence that shows he was assaulted.

If Zimmerman was assaulted then wouldn't that suggest self defense rather
than murder?



RD Sandman

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Apr 26, 2012, 12:57:14 PM4/26/12
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Lookout <mrloo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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What do you think a booking charge is? Will it be the final charge when
the trial begins? Perhaps...perhaps not. We could have plea bargain, we
could have all charged dropped. The actual charge on Zimmerman will be
the one presented in court in front of a jury.

> What the hell is wrong with you? You can't disagree with EVERYTHING
> someone says and still be taken seriously.

I don't.....just the stuff that is wrong. That seems to occur most often
on the side that wants Zimmerman hung out to dry.

>> They wouldn't do that if he
>>> had concrete evidence that shows he was assaulted.
>>
>>He probably doesn't. However the other side doesn't have concrete (I
>>assume that was an intentional pun) evidence that he wasn't either.
>>That is one reason why we have those things referred to as trials and
>>due process.
>



Lookout

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Apr 26, 2012, 6:50:47 PM4/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:57:14 -0500, RD Sandman
Prove it.

_ G O D _

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"Lookout" <mrloo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Lookout <mrloo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:lingp752dhg6p700p...@4ax.com:
>>
>>>>
>>> Hey dipshit..he HAS been charged with 2nd degree
>>> murder. That's why he had to have a bail hearing.
>>
>> What do you think a booking charge is? Will it be the final charge
>> when the trial begins? Perhaps...perhaps not. We could have plea
>> bargain, we could have all charged dropped. The actual charge
>> on Zimmerman will be the one presented in court in front of a jury.
>>
> Prove it.

Americunts are fucking hypocrites and it showed when
they made much ado about nothing in so obvious case
of unnecessary murder under pretext of self-protection,
where the killer being allowed to walk scot-free on bail,
while millions of completely innocent fellow countrymen
being brazenly railroaded into slavery and genocide of
legendary incarceration industry of US' gulag economy
by their completely corrupt and criminal judicial system
in ongoing perpetuation of the charter of Human Rights.

This killer should have been banished from the country
soon after the establishing that he took someone's life,
which isn't happening often - whether righteously or not....
--
_____________________________________________________
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
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_ G O D _

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Apr 26, 2012, 8:52:45 PM4/26/12
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"_ G O D _" <DEM...@SHAW.CA> wrote
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>
> "Lookout" <mrloo...@yahoo.com> wrote
> news:o8kjp7hre0dcrhmn1...@4ax.com...
>> RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Lookout <mrloo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:lingp752dhg6p700p...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hey dipshit..he HAS been charged with 2nd degree
>>>> murder. That's why he had to have a bail hearing.
>>>
>>> What do you think a booking charge is? Will it be the final charge
>>> when the trial begins? Perhaps...perhaps not. We could have plea
>>> bargain, we could have all charged dropped. The actual charge
>>> on Zimmerman will be the one presented in court in front of a jury.
>>>
>> Prove it.
>
> Americunts are fucking hypocrites and it showed when
> they made much ado about nothing in so obvious case
> of unnecessary murder under pretext of self-protection,
> where the killer being allowed to walk scot-free on bail,
> while millions of completely innocent fellow countrymen
> being brazenly railroaded into slavery and genocide of
> legendary incarceration industry of US' gulag economy
> by their completely corrupt and criminal judicial system
> in ongoing perpetuation of the charter of Human Rights.

I wanted to say "in violation of inalienable Human Rights"....

joeturn

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On Apr 26, 6:50 pm, Lookout <mrlooko...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:57:14 -0500, RD Sandman
>
>
>
>
>
> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Lookout <mrlooko...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >news:lingp752dhg6p700p...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:53:49 -0500, RD Sandman
> >> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>d...@dudu.org wrote in
> >>>news:pfigp7hted45qebci...@4ax.com:
>
> >>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:02:22 -0500, RD Sandman
> >>>> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>d...@dudu.org wrote in
> >>>>>news:67ufp7lh5og415bi9...@4ax.com:
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:30:16 -0400, "Scout"
> >>>>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:t2dep7p9oc93ovo1q...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:19:45 -0400, "Scout"
> >>>>>>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:qupdp7pvmf8io7781...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:27:05 -0700, "Oglethorpe"
> >>>>>>>>>> <antike...@go.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>messagenews:jn3ut3$qv4$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <d...@dudu.org> wrote in message
> Prove it.- Hide quoted text -
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Proof of psyops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZDc1RNmc4&feature=player_embedded#!

joeturn

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZDc1RNmc4&feature=player_embedded#!- Hide quoted text -
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And see katie holmos play kate middleton at mark 12:00 in the video

joeturn

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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZDc1RNmc4&feature=player_embedded#!-Hide quoted text -
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And at mark 10:00 it shows how holywood has altered Daniel Smith's
ears to partray murderers and Royalty as the need arised!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZDc1RNmc4&feature=player_embedded#!

joeturn

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Ahh they have pulled my picture of Our First Lady aka Regia King and
her son Ian Alexander Jr. aka Travon Martin. Oh well here is another
one.

http://hutchinsphoto.photoshelter.com/image/I0000SfKFvQD8uOo

joeturn

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> Ahh they have pulled my picture of Our First Lady aka Regia King and
> her son Ian Alexander Jr. aka Travon Martin.  Oh well here is another
> one.
>
> http://hutchinsphoto.photoshelter.com/image/I0000SfKFvQD8uOo- Hide quoted text -
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Here he is without his hoody.

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thecutline/trayvon-martin-drudge.jpg
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