Do nuclear bombs exist?
Warhol
Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
Quote:
NUKELIES
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Click here to watch on Google Video
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"There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
- Bertrand Russell
Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
BDK
@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> Do nuclear bombs exist?
>
> Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
>
> Quote:
> NUKELIES
>
> Click here to download higher-res .avi of NUKE LIES (99 MB)
> http://www.nukelies.com/NUKE%20LIES.avi
Looks like Jesse is as crazy as you are. And at least as stupid too.
>
> Click here to watch on Google Video
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8408022369543439525&ei=NzlfSaWSJY7Q-AHCjs2jCA&q=nuke+lies#
>
>
>
> "There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
> the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
>
> - Bertrand Russell
>
>
>
> in...@nukelies.com
>
>
> Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
>
> CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> http://www.nukelies.com/
>
> Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
> yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
>
BWHAHAHAHA! You're going downhill like a snowball, getting more insane
all the time.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
harry k
> In article <2c5fc905-9184-4041-9f78-42b704abc664
> @m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > Do nuclear bombs exist?
>
> > Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
>
> > Quote:
> > NUKELIES
>
> > Click here to download higher-res .avi of NUKE LIES (99 MB)
> >http://www.nukelies.com/NUKE%20LIES.avi
>
> Looks like Jesse is as crazy as you are. And at least as stupid too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Click here to watch on Google Video
>
> > "There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
> > the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
>
> > - Bertrand Russell
>
>
> > Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
>
> > CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> >http://www.nukelies.com/
>
> > Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
> > yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
>
> BWHAHAHAHA! You're going downhill like a snowball, getting more insane
> all the time.
> --
For sure. He has always been whacko but is going even farther around
the bend with each passing year.
Harry K
BradGuth
> Do nuclear bombs exist?
>
> Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
>
> Quote:
> NUKELIES
>
>
> Click here to watch on Google Videohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8408022369543439525&ei=NzlfSa...
>
> "There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
> the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
>
> - Bertrand Russell
>
>
> Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
>
> CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> http://www.nukelies.com/
>
> Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
> yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
Unfortunately, nukes do exist.
Too bad we didn't just focus upon using thorium instead of uranium.
If course it's also too bad that we can't seem to avoid screwing with
and pissing off others that are a little different from those of us
kosher enough to be in charge of making war, even if it has to be
another false flag perpetrated fiasco seems to count even better.
~ BG
BradGuth
You should be so crazy. At least our doom and gloom Warhol is being
honest, which doesn't mean that our Warhol doesn't make mistakes or
otherwise fail to research. What's your excuse?
~ BG
BDK
2f326d...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
Um, he's sane?
BWHAHAHA! You're proving to be even further around the bend than you
crazy pal is!
Lollipop congratulations Brad.
studio
> Do nuclear bombs exist?
>
> Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
That could said of nearly everything on earth depending on who you ask
about what.
I've never actually seen a cruise ship personally with my own eyes, or
booked a cruise ship voyage either, but it's highly unlikely that they
don't exist, as I'm certain that many people have witnessed them.
Warhol
clowns versus the atom bomb denier
This is a invitation to the atom bomb believers to post a rebuttal to
the points I will list below illustrating some the reasons I believe
atom bombs are a bogus science and a shameless hoax.
here is the list:
Item 1)
The historical seismograms of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have mysteriously
vanished. If not only for the sake of war-era memorabilia, that
information should have been everywhere in the museums and in the
press. Hiroshima is located in a highly volcanic zone called the
Honshu Arc and those active volcanoes were under constant
seismographic surveillance during that period and log before that. The
so-called atomic blast at hiroshima was estimated to be the equivalent
of 6.2 on the Richter Scale but no seismological outpost in the world
appears to have noted it. The Russians said they exploded the biggest
atomic bomb ever made (50 megatons) at Novaya Zemlya in northern
Russia. That is hundreds of thousands of times more powerful than what
they say exploded over Hiroshima yet again, not one seismic needle
moved at all. How is that possible I ask?
Item 2)
In 1942 Hitler's Lufftwaffe had a plan to bomb Lower Manhatten in New
York City USA. This plan included a special transport behemouth to fly
the package across the Atlantic and deliver it to the target. This is
fully 3 years before Hiroshima yet the so-called atom bomb they said
they were using is the exact yield and deployed at the same height as
the one they say they dropped on Hiroshima. This suggests to me that
the atomic hoaxsters were shopping for a spot to nest the hoax. What
other possible explanation can there be? When the US started using
what they call atom bombs the used the uranuim hammer configurations
but the Hitler model is not specific at that level. So, what is Hitler
doing planning atom bomb attacks before he even had the facilities or
infrastructure to even start planning such late strategies. They never
said what they would replace that bomb with if it fell into the ocean
with the plane. Why would he not have delivered the package by boat
instead. How do we explain these contradictions?
Item 3)
The so-called nuclear industry, be it weapons or so-called
commercially viable nuclear reactors is the hoaxster's paradise. The
whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and
security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the
plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the NSA and risk
jailtime for attempted so-called nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is
compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect
cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters. So perfect in fact that I
believe the jews could not resist pulling off those massive long-cons
on the people of the world. How can they NOT have done it when the
opportunities, the means and the motives were all there for them to
exploit?
Item 4)
During the so-called billion-dollar east coast of the United States
blackout a good portion of that area was completely without power. How
is this possible when so many so-called nuclear reactors were supposed
to have autonomy? How is that possible that people can shell out 5
billion dollars to build a reactor and it can't light a lightbulb when
the grid goes down. My contention is that the reason the power failure
is so absolute is because the conventional sources are fueling the
hoax reactors. Who would build a distribution grid for electricity
like a superhighway that cloggs up when two cars collide on a country
road? Nobody would design a grid where a reactor can't support it's
customers when the other grid elements are compromised. I say this is
further evidence of the hoax. How can it be otherwise?
Item 5)
The mushroom cloud thermodynamics of the atom bomb hoax have also been
examined. The first problem the competant examiner notices with the
mushroom cloud photographed on the day Hiroshima was attacked is that
the sun is shining brightly overhead at the noon position. The bombing
was said to have been at 8:15 am. I have heard it argued that this was
the Nagasaki cloud but it has been used by the hoaxsters themselves
for Hiroshima and Justin Raimondo had this exact cloud for his essay,
Hiroshima, Mon Amour. Why would the jews want to say it is Nagasaki if
they have nothing to hide? I went to the public library in downtown
Montreal as a youth and I looked at microfilm of newspapers for that
day in 1945 and the picture I enlarged taken from the microfilm was
the cloud at noon and it was Hiroshima indeed. So, more evidence of a
hoax?
Item 6)
The firebombing of Tokyo March 9-10, 1945-100,000 dead. M-69 aimable
cluster firebombs reduced 26 square kilometers of that city to ash
using a few hundred U.S. Air Force B-29 bombers. Aside the cost of the
aircraft when initially built the cost of destroying all that section
of Tokyo was a little more than a million dollars. So, why build
anything that costs billions to destroy a fraction of the land those
B-29 bombers could have destroyed in under less than a million
dollars? Because the atom bomb was a lie and those cities reduced to
ash by M-69 firebombs and that also explains the mysterious vanishing
of the historical seismograms of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Are they
hiding the fact that there was no shock wave? Is that why the trees
were still standing charred and many building facades still standing?
Item 7)
Hiroshima was not evacuated and life came back to normal very quickly.
This is inconsistent with the models presented by the experts that
said nothing would grow for 70 years and nobody could live there for a
very long time. One week after the so-called atom bomb, oleanders were
growing everywhere. The hoaxsters started stories of a miracle. More
contradiction and nonsense from the jewish hoaxsters.
Item 8)
The pilot of the B-29 they said dropped the so-called atom bomb on
Hiroshima is a known Hollywood insider and his B-29 crew was totally
segregated on an island with the pilot Commander Tibbits fully in
charge of security and everything. He had full autonomy and
discretion. I believe his crew of talmudic cowards was near 200
aircraft when they sortie'd on Hiroshima then later on Nagasaki.
Another brilliant example of the secrecy and security shroud of
compartmentalization over the whole hoax. Why would this dumbass put
his mother's name on an instrument of utter genocide if it were not
that his mother gloats without end at jewish hoax accomplishments and
mass murder that she would be pleased to figure prominently on the
nose of that beast of destruction and mass murder. How can anyone
believe such a mess of contradictions when it is obvious they would
have been nuts not to exploit the means they had at their disposal
under those circumstances. They pulled it off while everyone on earth
was in a state of shock and would have believed anything the jews said
just to stop the ignited gasoline showers?
Item 9)
Items said to be radioactive have in fact been doped with x-ray
radiation for periods of time corresponding to the hoax expectations.
At the Pantex assembly plant in Amarillo Texas they have a very
powerful x-ray machine they say they use to look inside decomissioned
so-called atom bombs before they open them up. That is totally
rediculous because why would anything be wrong inside a bomb watched
by the military night and day. I say the x-ray machine is there to
dope the materials they assemble so that the x-ray detectors they call
rad meters can read something expected from the mathematical models.
When a rad meter is picking up x-ray radiation it is seemlessly and
logarithmically converting this sampled energy and reporting the
results as rads instead of x-ray energy that it is. When a student
examines a sample said to be radioactive it is a sample irradiated
prior using a high intensity x-ray machine. Again compartmentalization
plays a key role here at the Pantex plant. Coincidentally they are the
only plant in the US authorized to make the final assemblies of so-
called nuclear bombs. What else could they be using that huge x-ray
machine at Pantex if it is not to create illusions of atomic
radioactivity?
Item 10)
Einstein the plagerist. At least a few links provided at my Hiroshima
thread deal with the question of Einstein's honesty in claiming the
authorship of a lot of his predecessor's work. Some say his wife was
more the mathematical genius and coached him a lot. Anyways the
original and official story of the creation of the first so-called
atom bomb says that Einstein gave the letter he wrote to the president
of the United States to a financier in New York that bounced it around
town for a week before giving it to the president. This was a letter
explaining in terms a president could understand that atom bombs can
be made. The story says that everyone was paranoid that Hitler would
discover the plan to build a bomb yet they let the letter concerning
it's so-called feasibility float around town for a week. More
contradiction.
Item 11)
The question of the Tribally Affiliated. Can anyone deny that the
global congregations of tribally affiliated had the means, the
motives, and the opportunities to hoax the world with fake atom bombs
and fake CVNEs and fake DU and the fake nuclear navy? They even faked
moonlandings and NAZIS holocausts. They call their genocides wars and
failed diplomacy. They faked the dinosaurs too it would appear.
Item 12)
Iraq, why did they not find so-called atom bombs there?
Item13)
Suicide bombers, since when can't the underworld aquire atom bombs for
suicide missions if they are not bogus?
Item 14)
Why 60 years without so-called atom bomb accidental explosions or
terrorist explosions? Everything the jews running the government do is
sloppy and anyone with entry level skills can steal a package from the
military and configure it to their likings. Why has this never
occurred with the so-called atom bomb?
Item 15)
The global conspiracy in negotiable instruments run by the jews and
indoctrinated into the minds of the poor youth abandoned to those
pathetic indoctrination centers called public schools worldwide is a
very important factor in the widespread acceptance of the hoax
clusters of the atomic variety by the mainsteam public. The tribal
affiliates monopoly on the mainstream media is also another great
element used to ram the hoax down our throats while we are still very
young and vulnerable to fear. The gobal ring of tribally affiliated
running all the governments of the world and controlling all the
military forces of the planet make the hoax possible also. Who can
deny the influence of the tribe in every country?
Item 16)
So-called nuclear reactors- The buildings and structures as they
appear to the human eye in as much as one is permitted to examine
without special clearance are real enough and cost real money if we
can pretend the money supply is really backed with anything of any
real value. Billions of dollars to build each one. I have worked
building a pair of reactors in Gentilly Quebec so that appeared real
enough at the surface at least. Many people are salaried to work in
these buildings and monitor security, supply and maintenance. All
this, of course, is to be expected if you want anyone to believe the
hoax it has to have at least the appearance of function and form. The
real sham starts in the control room. What is a control room anyways
you might ask, well, it is a representation of variables said to be
operating to achieve the potential predicted in the mathematical
models. The truth is that the control panel is an advanced simulator
running on highly specific top-secret application software developed
secretly a long time ago and refined many times since. So, the
unsuspecting employees work all day monitoring variables fed to them
by sophisticated digital processors geared to simulate a fully
functional reactor core and cooling elements. The fake reactor is
tethered to the grid and the energy from conventional sources is fed
to the brushes of the generators making them instantly motors instead
that circulate the water and perhaps also heat it for effect and
steam. The instruments reading the output from the reactor is actually
reversing the reading of the power pouring in. Who can deny that such
simulator technology was not possible at the time they started those
hoaxes?
Item 17)
The money- now there's a good motive for hoaxing these clusters of
deceit. How many people making big money in that fake industry feel
like letting it all go so the truth be known? They will fight to the
death to keep that salary and income no matter how bogus the industry
is proven to them to be. Who can deny that important obstacle to the
truth? The money stolen because of these hoax clusters is beyond
understanding.
Item 18)
Mushroom clouds do not grow out of radial airbrust explosions. The
mushroom cloud needs to be seeded from the ground. The thermodynamic
conditions caused by a circumferential airburst explosion would
superheat the air all around and send radial shock waves emanating
from the center outwards like the popular festivity fireworks and that
would negate the conditions required for a mushroom cloud to grow
normally. A mushroom cloud grows from the ground up in a predictable
circular pattern that develops and flows through a relatively cool and
stable upper air mass because the explosion was at the ground level.
Who can deny that mushroom clouds can't grow out of radial airburst
explosions?
Item 19)
A total absence of dead birds in all the documentation and photos
related to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Reports claim that
people saw birds exploding in mid-air when the bomb went off yet all
should have been blinded by the incredible flash of light that
preceded the blast.
These are just a sample of the reasons I think the world has been had
by that tribe of compulsive liars and their affiliates worldwide.
Warhol
Surprisingly enough my sources are the official records and the
incredible amount of contradiction contained within.
I said atom bombs are not real. I did not say that the incredible
arsenals of conventional weaponry wre bogus. Those are real and can
mess up your country in ways hard to imagine. Just think WW2 for
insights into that kind of military power.
BDK
@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fantastically whacked. You're topping yourself
almost daily now..
AusShane
>
> read more »
And the multitudes of japanese who received radiation burns had just
been out in the sun too long? Or the fact that radiation induced
cancers went off the scale afterwards??? But of course we managed to
get to all the thousands of people who were involved and whisper in
their ear.....
Alexander
I visited both Nagasaki and Hiroshima in the 1950's. Believe me, that
damage was real and definitely from an atomic device. The genetic damage
to the still living has been passed down through their progeny. Studies
seem to indicate that once such damage becomes genetic, that it will be
forever in that family lineage.
Warhol
> AusShane wrote:
> >> read more »
>
> > And the multitudes of japanese who received radiation burns had just
> > been out in the sun too long? Or the fact that radiation induced
> > cancers went off the scale afterwards??? But of course we managed to
> > get to all the thousands of people who were involved and whisper in
> > their ear.....
>
> I visited both Nagasaki and Hiroshima in the 1950's. Believe me, that
> damage was real and definitely from an atomic device. The genetic damage
> to the still living has been passed down through their progeny. Studies
> seem to indicate that once such damage becomes genetic, that it will be
> forever in that family lineage.
The papers in Japan reported that Hiroshima was firebombed by several
aircraft on the day the so-called atom bomb went off. Also, I would
invite you to do a little research on the question of the draconan
censorship protocols imposed by the Americans and decide for yourself
the worth of those testimonials. The atomic bombing was so obvious the
US had to drop millions of pamphlets to convinvce the locals that it
was not a regular firebombing.
But the carcinogens in jellied petrol can make people very sick and
petrol is known to cause all kinds of cancers. The citizens of Tokyo
that were bombed with M-69 aimable cluster jellied petrol bombs had
cancers and suffered all manner of skin diseases.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8762/7xb2kj6sj9.jpg
The big camphor tree shockwave hoax
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6105/6tza2apuc6.jpg
"In the precincts of the Kokutaiji Temple, the big camphor tree, said
to be over 300 years old was designated as a natural monument. Its
branches and thick leaves provided a place of comfort for the passers-
by during summertime. Its roots spread out in all directions for 300
meters, and the street car lines shown on the left in the photograph
had to avoid the tree, which formed an archway over the sidewalk.
By a blast pressure of 19 tons per square meter, the tree was
uprooted. Also, hundreds of tombstones were knocked in all directions
by the complex flow of wind from the blast.
The white building seen on the extreme right is the Hiroshima branch
of the Bank of Japan. Because it was built of strong ferro-concrete
and stonework, the exterior remained uncollapsed but the interior
burned."
So, where's the hoax in that tree? Read below and examine the picture:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2220/81ev5ohlg6.jpg
Look at the arrows I placed in the picture of that camphor tree. This
is a picture the hoaxsters say is a huge tree uprooted by the so-
called shockwave of the so-called hiroshima atom bomb. What kind of
shockwave uproots a massive tree but does not obliterate the tiny and
very brittle charred branches? A hoax shockwave-uprooting that's what
kind of a shockwave uproots a massive tree but does not break the
toothpick-like smaller branches. I think that tree fell on it's own
before or after the massive firebombing of that city using M-69
ordinance and the hoaxsters used it to promote their fallacies about
atom bombs. The same way they shamelessly used the illness caused by
the firestorm and the massive x-raying of the survivors in American
facilities as so-called atom bomb radiation sickness. Anything that
became ill of died after the firebombing was blamed on the atom bomb
fallacy.
Warhol
Hiroshima, the Top News Story That Wasn't...
by: by Humberto Marquez
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0807-01.htm
Quote:
The atomic bomb that was dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima 60
years ago, on Aug. 6, 1945, may have been the most crucial event of
the 20th century. But it was not the top news story.
That was because censorship and the manipulative media treatment of
the tragic event, managed by Washington and Tokyo, greatly muffled the
impact of the catastrophe and made the press an accomplice in the war.
Quote:
On Aug. 7, 1945, newspapers in Japan merely printed short articles
reporting that B-29 planes had dropped incendiary bombs on Hiroshima,
causing some damage. *
When they bombed Hiroshima the experts predicted nothing would grow
there for near 70 years. One week after the bombing of Hiroshima the
vegetation started growing and proliferating unhampered. They called
that a miracle. I call it contradiction. They showed us a watch that
stopped at 8:15am but never explained rationally why a mechanical
watch would stop like that. If this were true about the watch then we
would see piles of them stacked up in museums not just one.
They said people could see birds exploding in mid-air without
explaining how people subjected to a blinding flash of light prior
could make such an observation. I have seen tons of photos of the
destruction at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many of these post destruction
pictures show clean streets and not a single dead bird. I believe the
birds buggered out when the hundreds of B-29 approached the city for
the bombing run. The noise of those big engines must have been
incredible.
Also, The US did not have a backup plan in case the bomb failed to go
off as planned. Imagine the following headlines:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9859/newspaperwv3.jpg
Another important fact is the reality that the B-29 engines were
plagued with overheating problems. So many in fact that several
bombers would routinely ditch in the ocean or were forced to turn
back. Hardly the ideal means of delivery for the world's first multi-
billion dollar weapon. Funny thing is that Hitler also considered
flying his atom bomb into Manhattan by superbomber aircraft.
There's plenty more contradictions. Too many I say.
American Eagle
We committed a massive war crime by indiscriminately dropping 2 Atomic
bombs on 2 Japanese cities that had large civilian populations. Those
are the sad facts. Like it or not. Now get over it. The Japanese did.
We learned that weapons of those proportions are only good for detente.
Never should we use them except in the direst of need. The Japanese have
published a number of books outlining the long term effects of radiation
poisoning and treatment of horrible burns.
Warhol wrote:
> On Sep 28, 12:41 pm, Alexander <Alexan...@thegreat.org> wrote:
>> AusShane wrote:
>>>> read more �
>>> And the multitudes of japanese who received radiation burns had just
>>> been out in the sun too long? Or the fact that radiation induced
>>> cancers went off the scale afterwards??? But of course we managed to
>>> get to all the thousands of people who were involved and whisper in
>>> their ear.....
>> I visited both Nagasaki and Hiroshima in the 1950's. Believe me, that
>> damage was real and definitely from an atomic device. The genetic damage
>> to the still living has been passed down through their progeny. Studies
>> seem to indicate that once such damage becomes genetic, that it will be
>> forever in that family lineage.
>
>
> The papers in Japan reported that Hiroshima was firebombed by several
> aircraft on the day the so-called atom bomb went off. Also, I would
> invite you to do a little research on the question of the draconan
> censorship protocols imposed by the Americans and decide for yourself
> the worth of those testimonials. The atomic bombing was so obvious the
> US had to drop millions of pamphlets to convinvce the locals that it
> was not a regular firebombing.
They must have been radioactive pamphlets as the area was still hot a
hell. I took pictures of a wall that had the flower designs of womens
kimonos and shape etched into it. I also took readings for the US
Military to ascertain the safety for military tourism. It was very
radioactive and not safe at all. It was not inhabited at all.
>
> But the carcinogens in jellied petrol can make people very sick and
> petrol is known to cause all kinds of cancers.
Sorry sport, but the firebombing was mostly by eggcrates full of bats
with incendiary devices. No Jellied gas used. That didn't come into use
until the Korean war.
The citizens of Tokyo
> that were bombed with M-69 aimable cluster jellied petrol bombs had
> cancers and suffered all manner of skin diseases.
Nope.. Bats that roosted in the eves with incendiary devices attached to
their legs. We also bombed the crap out of them with dumb bombs.
BradGuth
>
> A total absence of dead birds in all the documentation and photos
> related to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Reports claim that
> people saw birds exploding in mid-air when the bomb went off yet all
> should have been blinded by the incredible flash of light that
> preceded the blast.
>
> These are just a sample of the reasons I think the world has been had
> by that tribe of compulsive liars and their affiliates worldwide.
There's lots of physical evidence and a good number of damaged and
dead biodiversity (including humans) as proof positive that nuclear/
atomic weapons do exist. Those original atomic bombs were not
terribly fuel efficient, whereas by today's higher efficiency
standards of bomb fission would be considered as dirty bombs.
The energy blackout issues are primarily that caused by a badly
overloaded grid system, and otherwise extremely outdated, inefficient
and of course unreliable grid infrastructure that should have been
revised and upgraded as of decades ago, not to mention those ENRON
contrived/bogus brownouts in order to maximize greedy kosher profits.
Steven Chu has a perfectly viable energy plan, and Chu has enough
education, first hand expertise and capability of working along with
others to think-tank and to reapply our best talent and resources for
accomplishing our way out of this energy deficiency and unreliability
mess, although the mostly Republican Jews in charge of most everything
energy related are having none of it.
Regardless of the green or dirty types and methods of generating those
clean and relatively safe electrons, the national grid needs to become
400% robust, greatly expanded and at least a 50% federal investment
and thus 50% public owned (meaning no more energy hocus pocus).
~ BG
Warhol
Maybe you would care to explain why a seismic needle-bending blast
like that had zero effect on any seismometer the world over. The bomb
they say exploded over Hiroshima was estimated to be about M6.3 on the
Richter scale equivalency for a yield of 18 kilotons. Seismometers
halfway around the world could pick that up. Big Ivan was supposed to
have a yield of 50 mega tons.
You would need 50 Hiroshima blasts to make 1 mega ton and 50 times
that to obtain the yield claimed by the Russians on Big Ivan. That's
2500 times the Little Boy claim.
Do the math and ask yourself why your scrapbook isn't filled up with
seismic records from the world over for that blast. That was another
very high altitude blast that produced a mushroom cloud if you believe
the official record. Mushroom clouds are not produced by high altitude
blasts. The circumferential radial blast negates the conditions for
the production of a mushroom cloud.
The Big Ivan shot was situated in Novaya Zemlya. A very isolated
northern part of Russia. How many witnesses to you estimate saw the
actual blast? I have not read a single anecdote from an independant
observer on that occasion. Did you? Do you know anyone that collected
trinitite from that event?
Also picture this, you build a billion dollar bomb and deploy it so
high in the sky as to produce the exact same effect of hundreds of
B-29 bombing with conventional firebomblets. Does that sound rational
to you? Billions of dollars to destroy barely 4 sq. kms of residential/
commercial real estate in Japan. They destroyed 26 sq.kms of Tokyo
using hundreds of B-29 on March 9-10, 1945 and the ordinance cost was
estimated at less than 1 million dollars. Real smart planning eh?
Has any insider come forward to exspose 9-11 as a jew hoax?
These affiliates are rolling in cash and credentials. Why would they
risk exposing the hoax, end up dead broke, discredited or potentially
land their behinds on the coroner's slab. These guys know what will
happen to them if they step out of line. There is zero incentive for
them to come forward with the truth.
http://www.thetech.org/exhibits_events/online/quakes/grams/
A seismogram is a record of the ground shaking recorded by a
seismograph.
The P waves travel fastest through the Earth so they arrive at a
seismograph first, followed by the S waves and lastly by the surface
waves.
The 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake (San Francisco Bay area-M6.9) was
recorded at a seismograph in Kongsberg, Norway, 8400 km (about 5,200
miles) away.
Warhol
Did North Korea fake a nuke test?
http://www.theadventuresofchester.com/archives/2006/10/was_the_nuke_te.html
North Korea doesn't deserve sanctions because....The ATOM BOMB Does
NOT exist.
The international Jewish Mafia wants to loot North Korea, but North
Korea is too independent.
First, Jew money is used to bribe a few North Koreans into falsely
claiming North Korea has nukes.
Next, the Jewish Mafia will use the phoney threat of nuclear terrorism
to get sanctions against North Korea to starve them into submission.
Anyone who claims North Korea is dangerous should be told that ...The
ATOM BOMB does not exist...it's another Jewish hoax the Jewish mafia
uses to control and loot the world.
BDK
03e917...@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
Even a small eathquake has many times the energy of an atomic bomb.
Science just mystifies you, doesn't it Wormhole?
George
> In article <55a6dad4-6485-403a-94da-
> 03e917e10...@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
Even a Cumulo-nimbus out powers the Hiroshima bombs by several degrees
of magnitude...
BradGuth
>
> North Korea doesn't deserve sanctions because....The ATOM BOMB Does
> NOT exist.
>
> The international Jewish Mafia wants to loot North Korea, but North
> Korea is too independent.
>
> First, Jew money is used to bribe a few North Koreans into falsely
> claiming North Korea has nukes.
>
> Next, the Jewish Mafia will use the phoney threat of nuclear terrorism
> to get sanctions against North Korea to starve them into submission.
>
> Anyone who claims North Korea is dangerous should be told that ...The
> ATOM BOMB does not exist...it's another Jewish hoax the Jewish mafia
> uses to control and loot the world.
North Korea has little if anything other than hungry masses to feed.
Not even worth all that much to anyone other than those in need of
slaves for accomplishing their kosher form of global domination.
If NK has or has not the atomic bomb makes little difference. Like
certain other faith-based groups around the world, it seems NK can't
stop pissing off those around them. However, perhaps NK would be
better off being Muslim instead of bullyism. Better yet, NK and SK
should merge as a united Korean nation, because anything would be
better than what they got.
~ BG
Warhol
You know Brad, what I see now is the same reaction I got as when I
declared here the first time here on Usenet that there was no
Holocaust or moon travel...
I get the same feeling as in those great Warholian threads...
Unbelieve...
but years later many got their eyes opened from their blindness...
No such thing as Atom bombs.
...Yet more I read about... "disarmament's"... "reduction`s"... etc...
yet more
I think it`s same old bogus... like "HollowRoast".. "Enos on the
Moon"..
.."Global Warming"... "PigFlu"... "Finance-Crisis"... etc...
No, I'm not kidding. Warhol is working to prove it, exposing the dream
world we believe in and spread the word...
The atom bomb hoax meets the moonlanding hoax,
Let me take you, the usenet reader, in my time machine back in the
days when the race to the moon was being discussed and defined. Are
you here with me in the late 1960s? Good, now think of all those so-
called nuclear weapons sitting in the Soviet and American armouries
ready for action. Picture the intercontinental balistic missiles that
could deliver these puppies to a potential enemy with launching
schemes that place the WMD into temporary earth orbit before it re-
enters and fall on the heads overseas. Can you see those yoo inyour
mind?
Ok, so it's the late 60s and we say we can place a nuclear weapon on a
missile and shoot it up into low earth orbit on an elliptical curve
and have it detonate a few thousand feet off the ground after re-
entry.
So, the Americans and the Soviets want to prove they can get past the
Van Allen belts and onto the moon. They think of sending unmanned
probes and contemplate landing man on the surface but never once did
they think of placing a small atomic bomb in the nose of a Saturn 5
rocket and ship that to the moon for a spectacular light show. Here on
earth the citizens of the world in the portion facing the moon would
be told to stand by for the exact moment of detonation and to stay
near their telescopes although technically you sould be able to see
the blast from earth. Then when the robotic probe carrying the bomb is
just about to impact the moon surface the public is advised to look at
he moon and boom, one fair sized flash of bright light.
NASA is a branch of the NWO and they could have started the ball
rolling with that show and set the groundwork of credibility where it
can hardly be criticized or denied. A great blow to the skeptics.
Instead they say they sent astronauts and did nothing to prove they
went there at all. Atom bombs were never considered for a validation
mission because they are not true also. In this respect both hoaxes
meet at what I like to call a hoax crosswalk.
Warhol
For those readers that have difficulty understanding how the hydrogen
bomb hoax was presented to the public I submit this picture from my
archives. Below is Howard Morland showing his H-bomb model. For
clarity I have boxed in red the primary stage that shows the fission
type (Fat Man-type implosion device) trigger. If the trigger is bogus
so is the H-bomb itself:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9269/hydrogen001wymo4.jpg
The way it works is that the primary stage explodes and the x-rays
racing out ahead of the physical blast are focussed into the styrofoam
jacket surrounding the elements to be fused in the secondary stage.
Once the secondary stage foam jacket has flashed to temperatures near
10 million degrees the fusion in the secondary takes place and boom, a
bigger explosion. Of course this thread is providing evidence that the
primary is a bogus claim so it follows logically that the secondary
claim is bogus too.
Contradiction is the hallmark of deception. If I had been a nuclear
hoaxster I would have encouraged as many of my affiliates as possible
to file for disability and medical to get big compensation and
reinforce the hoax. History books are rife with eye witnesses saying
they saw jews gassed by the NAZIS and today barely a jew will defend
that claim. Where there is money there will always be plenty of
unscrupulous people ready to say anything to get their hands on the
money.
Now, if you don't want to discuss this any further be my guest. If you
wish to become abusive you can join your chum Rad-a-Ghost on the
killfile list.
Warhol
> In article <5e7ee268-772d-49d5-bfde-
> 2f326d4f9...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says...
So, you find it amusing that pathological liars have riiped off the
world to the tune of zillions of dollars for non-existant atomic
bombs? You roll on the floor laughing while this bogus science is used
as a pretext to commit genocide? I don't think that is funny at all.
BradGuth
Where the heck did all of those original Zionist Nazis that ran our
DARPA go?
btw; don't count your lucky stars over those nukes that you think
don't exist. Trust me, they do exist, and I even have a first hand
witness that was among those nuked, though far too many others didn't
survive our dirty atom bomb of that era. Modern nukes are
considerably cleaner (more efficient bang per kg of weapons grade
fuel, means less radioactive fallout)
~ BG
BradGuth
> of magnitude...
Mother nature can kick serious butt whenever she wants to, and she can
do it over and over because it's all kinda renewable energy (a
combination of solar and lunar derived energy that's nearly unlimited)
~ BG
Warhol
Note of interest to the readers: Contrary to the official records
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not dead cities before they were bombed.
These two cities were undergoing rapid commercial expansion that was
overflowing into a great number of lots owned privately by citizens
reluctant to part with traditional land inheritance patterns.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5633/hiroshimawideweb430x323.jpg
These people would not give up their parcels of land without a big
fight and lots of organized resistance maybe violent upheaven in the
mix also.
The bombings of those two cities was genocide and it was a formal
eviction notice and a formal disolving of proprietary rights to the so-
called contaminated land. Now, where would you think you might find
the best evidence of this expansion plan? The best evidence are modern
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Below, modern Hiroshima:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6094/20090302001736.jpg
A major thoroughfare in the heart of Hiroshima was planned before the
bombings to fit this planned expansion we see realized in our time.
One reason people remember the boulevard expansion and widening was
because it involved removing a landmark building the Japanese held in
high relevance. People could not visualize the society the road was
being modified to accomodate. Jews plan way far ahead of time.
So, how can we see that the Americans were helping the Japanese jews
vacate their goyim from those lots? One might recall the Japanese
Emperor, via his attache, bestowing Japan's highest medal of service
to Japan by a foreigner, conferred the First Order of Merit with the
Grand Cordon of the Rising Sun,
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1272/grandcordon.jpg
to General Curtis LeMay,
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9263/20090302005055.jpg
the leader of the crews that firebombed millions of Japanese citizens
into oblivion and did so in the worst imaginable way, in Tokyo on the
anniversary of Pearl Harbour. Hows that for gratitude?
Instead of torturing him and hanging his miserable carcass under the
sun and crows they pinned a bloody medal to his chest. Then the
whiners would have us believe there are no jews in Japan.
History is rife with stories documenting the ways jews from the four
corners of the world killed off millions of their enemies in genocides
they described as failed diplomacy and pe-emptive self defence.
American Eagle
No need to. The instruments on both the Bombing Aircraft were wrecked by
completely hitting the top of their ranges and the Seismometers at
Tinian Island and Sweden have open viewing to the general public today.
The Library of Congress has the total records in archives, but it will
cost you to search them out. Viewing them is free. If you are a member
of your Embassy in Belgium, the /search is free to Governments.
The bomb
> they say exploded over Hiroshima was estimated to be about M6.3 on the
> Richter scale equivalency for a yield of 18 kilotons. Seismometers
> halfway around the world could pick that up. Big Ivan was supposed to
> have a yield of 50 mega tons.
the biggest nuke we ever made was 20 megatons. Those used on Japan were
in the lower kilotons and Used to world over to set the bottom range of
Nuclear detection devices.
>
> You would need 50 Hiroshima blasts to make 1 mega ton and 50 times
> that to obtain the yield claimed by the Russians on Big Ivan. That's
> 2500 times the Little Boy claim.
>
> Do the math and ask yourself why your scrapbook isn't filled up with
> seismic records from the world over for that blast. That was another
> very high altitude blast that produced a mushroom cloud if you believe
> the official record. Mushroom clouds are not produced by high altitude
> blasts. The circumferential radial blast negates the conditions for
> the production of a mushroom cloud.
>
> The Big Ivan shot was situated in Novaya Zemlya. A very isolated
> northern part of Russia. How many witnesses to you estimate saw the
> actual blast? I have not read a single anecdote from an independant
> observer on that occasion. Did you? Do you know anyone that collected
> trinitite from that event?
I am aware of several that witnessed all Russian tests and not one
escaped our purview. Why do you think Russia called it a day and changed
strategies?
>
> Also picture this, you build a billion dollar bomb and deploy it so
> high in the sky as to produce the exact same effect of hundreds of
> B-29 bombing with conventional firebomblets. Does that sound rational
> to you? Billions of dollars to destroy barely 4 sq. kms of residential/
> commercial real estate in Japan. They destroyed 26 sq.kms of Tokyo
> using hundreds of B-29 on March 9-10, 1945 and the ordinance cost was
> estimated at less than 1 million dollars. Real smart planning eh?
It was money well spent when it is balanced with the $billions of wasted
assets on a longh drawn out and bloody invasion. estimates of dead was
to be in the millions. Devastation to Japanese infrastructure would have
been total. Developement of the B29 was $4 Billion just to carry those
bombs. It was a terrible decision, but the right one. Many that were
consul to that decision lost a lot of sleep and did a lot of soul
searching. I suggest that you as a Monday morning quarterback lay this
to rest. After all, you homeland was saved by the bloodbath of the
allied invasion in Europe. We have buried the past and the dead, suggest
you do the same. Do tr5y and stay with the wrongsw of today, those that
commit them, and the things that we can correct. We cannot redo the
past. At least not yet. Go take a Jew to lunch. Make him/her pay the
bill though.
It will be a new thing for therm.
Hermann
Georgio is out cloud watching while the black neighbor does his Jewish
wifey. ;-)
BradGuth
And you're suggesting that no part of of being Muslim is ever bad?
We need to realize when overreacting is a bad thing, almost as bad as
underreacting. The trick is to be somewhere in between, but never
without remorse because all mortal humans make mistakes (including the
Pope).
~ BG
BDK
@e8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
A tiny pic proves nothing.
>
> The way it works is that the primary stage explodes and the x-rays
> racing out ahead of the physical blast are focussed into the styrofoam
> jacket surrounding the elements to be fused in the secondary stage.
> Once the secondary stage foam jacket has flashed to temperatures near
> 10 million degrees the fusion in the secondary takes place and boom, a
> bigger explosion. Of course this thread is providing evidence that the
> primary is a bogus claim so it follows logically that the secondary
> claim is bogus too.
Logically? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Contradiction is the hallmark of deception. If I had been a nuclear
> hoaxster I would have encouraged as many of my affiliates as possible
> to file for disability and medical to get big compensation and
> reinforce the hoax. History books are rife with eye witnesses saying
> they saw jews gassed by the NAZIS and today barely a jew will defend
> that claim. Where there is money there will always be plenty of
> unscrupulous people ready to say anything to get their hands on the
> money.
>
> Now, if you don't want to discuss this any further be my guest. If you
> wish to become abusive you can join your chum Rad-a-Ghost on the
> killfile list.
Killfiles are for pussies, Wormhole. Are you a pussy?
BDK
@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
No Wormhole, I find it very amusing that you are so deranged that you
don't believe atom bombs exist. Your previous posts, while totally
insane, don't even come close to this stuff.
> You roll on the floor laughing while this bogus science is used
> as a pretext to commit genocide?
That doesn't even make sense in any way. As expected at this point,
since you've now gone past batshit crazy, and are now in a special
place, all by yourself.
> I don't think that is funny at all.
And that's what makes it even funnier.
Rave on and on and on and on..
william hubbard
>
> Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
>
> Quote:
> NUKELIES
>
> Click here to download higher-res .avi of NUKE LIES (99 MB)http://www.nukelies.com/NUKE%20LIES.avi
>
>
> "There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
> the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
>
> - Bertrand Russell
>
> i...@nukelies.com
>
> Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
>
> CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> http://www.nukelies.com/
>
> Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
> yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
the proof would be in the sudden appearance of a mushroomcloud over
mecca..
BradGuth
wrote:
That should do the trick, but why not illuminate the Vatican and most
every other mainstream faith while we're at it?
I’m not usually one to nitpick. However, if "God is mad", will
freaking la-de-da and guess what folks, he/she started it. Maybe it’s
time we showed this God who’s boss around here.
Here in Usenet/newsgroups, as for being opposed to any sort of
mainstream crime, corruption, dishonesty and the faith-based kinds of
mitigated arrogance and greed of those that cloak themselves behind
Atheism and otherwise choose not to police their own kind (that’s so
often kosher policy), is being anti-Semitic and even racist.
That kosher policy sort of makes God anti-Semitic and even racist.
~ BG
Warhol
wrote:
NO... there is not a single nuke working...
studio
> I said atom bombs are not real.
Well, atoms might not be real either....have you ever seen one?
Then you should post to soc.culture.japan and ask if anyone there
witnessed the atomic attack on Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
Personally, I like those M65 nuclear rifles they made in the late
50's.
But technically those aren't atom bombs, it's more like a mortar
shell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khyZI3RK2lE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
Warhol
But ... but.... BUT ... ITS a MORTAR SHELL... atom bombs are a bogus
science and a shameless hoax.
I should get the Nobel Prize someday, after the revolution maybe.
People must stop sending their precious youth (read futures) to the
jews at a very young age for mind conditioning that lasts near 12
years on average. Public schools worldwide are the cancer ripping away
at the fabric of our societies, the cornerstone of yidwish
accomplishment for the past several centuries.
BradGuth
Perhaps you've been spending too much cave time with OBL.
~ BG
Warhol
No Brad... Are you hallucinating? You must be if you think I can put
that genie back in it's bottle.
Here is a picture of Oppenheimer and Gen. Groves chatting where a so-
called huge atomic explosion just took place:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1557/20090214112053io5.jpg
What happened to the fear of radiation poisoning? The hoaxsters had
not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
from circulation.
George
> What happened to the fear of radiation poisoning? The hoaxsters had
> not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
> fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
> from circulation
You -are- aware that the effcts of radiation and fallout were very
tenuous subjects at the time ?
And a great number of those scientists died from radiation induced
illnesses
studio
> Here is a picture of Oppenheimer and Gen. Groves chatting where a so-
> called huge atomic explosion just took place:
>
> http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1557/20090214112053io5.jpg
>
> What happened to the fear of radiation poisoning? The hoaxsters had
> not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
> fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
> from circulation.
Does it say how long the after detonation took place the photo op
occurred? And was it at ground zero or not? And what the radiation
levels were?
If it were days later, the radiation was significantly lower.
No doubt technicians surveyed the spot before hand with Geiger
Counters to make sure radiation was well within tolerant levels. Not
to mention what their exposure may have been verses the time span they
were there. Or how adept they were at knowing what radiation limits
could be tolerated at the time. Nuclear science wasn't a perfect
science then, and it still isn't, but it's understanding has
progressed significantly since then.
Don Ocean
Yes, Thankfully all of ours are unemployed at this time. Please don't
you or anyone else do anything that would require their services.
>
Warhol
how comes hiroshima has been rebuilt?
Warhol
Let's take a moment and recall the massive firebombing of Tokyo on
March 9-10,1945 (6 months before the Hiroshima bombing). On that
fateful night hundreds of B-29 dropped metric tonnes of ordinance that
went by the designation M-69 Aimable Clusters. Below is an
illustration of one such cluster:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/994/n2cp05kh1.jpg
The B-29s were jam packed with these cluster bomblet casing. When
released they would open up at 2000 feet and release the bomblets each
containing about 6 pounds of jellied petrol and a fuse mechanism
designed by the father of HTML, Vannevar Bush. These bomblets would
fall to the ground lightly and ignite whatever combustibles that came
into contact with them. Seeing as the target was made of wood you can
imagine the firestorm that would ensue. 26 sq.kms of residential area
of Tokyo was burned down and near 100,000 people killed in the worst
imaginable way.
Of course there was no shockwave and the trees were left standing but
badly charred and the streets were clear of debris:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1002/tokyo1945wwwxb8.jpg
One rarely mentioned fact is that the extremely high temperatures
generated by the firestorm vaporized the petrol and saturated the
clouds and the result was a black oily rain. A very cancerous and
deadly black oily rain:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1852/pic3nd9.jpg
Now consider this:
Black rain fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki post-bombing
Trees were still standing with charred extremities
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4553/hiroshima150aa7.jpg
Streets free of debris
No evidence of shockwave
Same signature, same ordinance. Note also they said Little Boy
exploded at just under 2000 feet and the M-69 depoys it's firebomblets
at 2000 feet. Coincidence or tribal gloating? Reader decide.
BradGuth
You could be right. However, small amounts of weapons grade fuel
doesn't leave all that much radioactive remainders. The human DNA can
withstand < 50 rem (0.5 Sv) of whole body exposure or radioactive
dosage without significant complications. At 1.0 Sv is where the
dosage consequences are sometimes sufficient to cause illness and
conceivably even death. Multiple Sv exposure is usually lethal unless
there's a supply of other stem cells and/or banked bone marrow
available.
Standing in for a few Kodak moments at a given atomic bomb test site
isn't all that insurmountable (well within safe exposure limits).
Just don't plan on camping there for weeks on end.
~ BG
BDK
@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
Why do you think, moron? I knew you were insane, but I didn't think you
were this dumb.
BDK
@y36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
I think everyone, including Guthball your best usenet buddie, has
decided you're out of your fucking mind.
BradGuth
Because the radioactive remainders became insignificant enough to
allow full utilization of the worse affected land. Much of the
radioactive elements got washed into the ocean, and we didn't know as
much then as we do now about the harmful affects of long-term exposure
to low levels of such radiation.
Fortunately today, atomic bombs are considerably more fuel efficient,
thus leaving less of their radioactive material behind to damage
human, plant and animal DNA. In some ways, the newest of nuclear
weapons are providing relatively clean explosions that'll seriously
knock your socks off (even if you are hiding in a cave), but otherwise
that's about it.
~ BG
Warhol
Big Dumb Kunt, theres no atom bomb.
Anyway I am used to unbelief... I got the same reactions here on
usenet when I started to expose yids for what they were, and it was
not otherwise when I said that space travel didn't exist and no one
went to the moon...
But as in the past the future will proof that I am right again.
For example watch from 13:40 in this video:
Operation Dominic 1962 Vintage Atomic Bomb Film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYicd0hmGu0
It's a whole film (over 20 minutes) about nuclear bomb tests, yet
strangely few sequences of actual nuclear bomb explosions.
And the film sequences that are included of nuclear bomb explosions,
like the one from 13:40, look suspiciously doctored with a combination
of model explosions (conventional explosives used) and cut and paste
images, airbrushing of light-effects etc .
Warhol
> In article <90020d66-9031-4137-bbda-c17af7ac11a7
> @a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 5:55 am, George <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> > > On Sep 30, 1:05 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > What happened to the fear of radiation poisoning? The hoaxsters had
> > > > not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
> > > > fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
> > > > from circulation
>
> > > You -are- aware that the effcts of radiation and fallout were very
> > > tenuous subjects at the time ?
>
> > > And a great number of those scientists died from radiation induced
> > > illnesses
>
> > how comes hiroshima has been rebuilt?
>
> Why do you think, moron? I knew you were insane, but I didn't think you
> were this dumb.
>
> --
>
I love the truth. I hate lies and false historical records. The best
evidence at my disposal at this present time indicates that the atom
bomb stories and the rest of those hoax clusters are pure tribal BS.
Prove me wrong.
A list of reasons why the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
were FAKE!
1. The bombs yielded between 15 and 20 kilotons, but didn't leave a
gigantic charred blast crater.
2. Supposedly, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima killed 70,000 people
outright. Japan instituted a "Duck and Cover" plan in 1929, but for
some reason didn't use it in Hiroshima.
3. It's impossible to pack 15,000 tons of explosives into a bomb ten
feet long and three feet around.
4. A 500 pound bomb can destroy everything within 20 feet. Therefore,
the Little Boy bomb should have flattened everything in a 114 mile
radius.
5. The primary cause of death from a nuclear explosions are flashing
skeletonizer rays that vaporize people instantly. This didn't happen
in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
6. Most of Hiroshima was flattened, but a building near the center of
the explosion survived except for having all it's glass shattered.
7. The Russians built an atomic bomb in about the same amount as time
as the Americans, which is completely ridiculous considering their
vast technological superiority.
8. The burn shadows caused by the heat of the fireball are almost
always non-parallel.
9. The intense heat of the explosion would have melted film for miles
around, and yet people were taking photos of the destruction within
hours.
10. The radiation caused by the bombs would have created a permanent
radioactive bubble around Japan which no one could enter unless
shielded by six feet of lead.
11. The bombs themselves were so unstable they would have flown back
towards their B-29 and exploded.
12. One of the first Atomic Bomber Prototype Test Planes crashed
during testing. The ABPTP was too dangerous too fly, and yet they
built more than 4,000 production aircraft!
13. If atomic bombs could be dropped on cities 60 years ago, we would
still be dropping them today.
14. Computing power was insufficient to guide the bombs to their
targets.
15. In a 2003 Gallup poll, 98% of Americans doubted that nuclear
weapons even existed.
16. The photos of the destruction are remarkably similar to the 1984
BBC television film Threads, and unsurprisingly, most of the
photographs of the bombing's aftermath didn't start appearing until
the mid 80s.
18. No one could see any stars in the sky the night after the bombing.
19. Some of the shadows created by the heat of the fireball aren't
completely black.
20. The movement of crew members aboard the Atomic Bomb Dropping Plane
would have changed it's center off gravity, knocking it off-balance.
21. Many survivors never heard the sound of the explosion, which is
completely absurd.
22. If you speed the footage of the blast four times, it's obviously
just a small bomb filmed in extreme close-up.
23. All of the photos taken after the bombing are perfectly framed and
exposed.
24. If the bombings were real, Truman would have had General
Eisenhower and Robert Oppenheimer killed in a fire for opposing them.
25. A feather dropped from a plane at 30,000 feet would take longer to
hit the ground than an atomic bomb.
26. The ABDP had two bomb bays in the center of it's fuselage. There's
no way the crew could have accessed the rear compartment with them in
the way.
27. The state of technology was so bad in 1945 rifles still had
bayonets on them. Are we supposed to believe they could make an atomic
bomb?
BDK
1201a8...@c28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
I know you believe that. It's one more sign of your insanity. There's
nothing magic about an atomic bomb. If they can get some uranium, an
awful lot of people have the knowledge to make one.
>
> Anyway I am used to unbelief... I got the same reactions here on
> usenet when I started to expose yids for what they were, and it was
> not otherwise when I said that space travel didn't exist and no one
> went to the moon...
There's no end to your kooktardery, is there? You have delusions about
jews, space travel, atomic bombs, your Gran'Pa'Pee", and who knows what
else you're tripping about.
>
> But as in the past the future will proof that I am right again.
So far, you've never been right about anything at all. Do you think
that's going to change? I don't see it happening.
>
> For example watch from 13:40 in this video:
>
> Operation Dominic 1962 Vintage Atomic Bomb Film:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYicd0hmGu0
Yeah, so? I've seen it before. I have a DVD full of those type of films.
Lots of great A and H Bomb explosions on them.
>
> It's a whole film (over 20 minutes) about nuclear bomb tests, yet
> strangely few sequences of actual nuclear bomb explosions.
And that proves what exactly?
>
> And the film sequences that are included of nuclear bomb explosions,
> like the one from 13:40, look suspiciously doctored with a combination
> of model explosions (conventional explosives used) and cut and paste
> images, airbrushing of light-effects etc .
>
>
LOL, you're fully kooktarderized at this point, terminally insane.
BTW, I know someone who worked at the Nevada test site. I actually
applied for the same job he had, setting up monitoring equipment for the
tests. There was no doubt, there were nuclear explosions happening.
Whoo hoo!! You batshit crazy kook.
George
The areas around the two blast centres were being built on within
weeks of the bombing which accounted for the large numbers of
radiation illnesses amongst the population.
All they could see was empty space and the idea of invisible radiation
being lethal was hand waved away.
George
> A list of reasons why the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> were FAKE!
>
You are a moron.
Not even Brad Guth is wacky on this .
The Japanese withstood conventional bombing and refused to surrender
The Americans dropped one nuke.
By the damage the one bomb caused the Japanese knew the balance of the
war had changed.
When the second bomb dropped the Japanese knew that there was no way
they could ignore this new and terrible weapon.
They surrendered
studio
> Prove me wrong.
In order to be legally binding, you'll have to prove they don't exist
in a court of law.
Good luck with that.
> A list of reasons why the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> were FAKE!
>
> 1. The bombs yielded between 15 and 20 kilotons, but didn't leave a
> gigantic charred blast crater.
It was an air burst, not an impact detonation.
2,3 yada yada yada...
> 4. A 500 pound bomb can destroy everything within 20 feet. Therefore,
> the Little Boy bomb should have flattened everything in a 114 mile
> radius.
It actually destroyed the entire world and everyone died.
> 5. The primary cause of death from a nuclear explosions are flashing
> skeletonizer rays that vaporize people instantly. This didn't happen
> in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
ha-ha-ha....skeletonizer rays!...rotflmao....
> 6. Most of Hiroshima was flattened, but a building near the center of
> the explosion survived except for having all it's glass shattered.
Damn single pane glass. I for one will be glad when they make nuclear
safety glass.
> 7. The Russians built an atomic bomb in about the same amount as time
> as the Americans, which is completely ridiculous considering their
> vast technological superiority.
Hitler had one too, but he thought they said; "we have a new clear
mom"...so he killed himself.
> 8. The burn shadows caused by the heat of the fireball are almost
> always non-parallel.
They were painted on later.
> 9. The intense heat of the explosion would have melted film for miles
> around, and yet people were taking photos of the destruction within
> hours.
The Japs had already invented digital cameras.
> 10. The radiation caused by the bombs would have created a permanent
> radioactive bubble around Japan which no one could enter unless
> shielded by six feet of lead.
The bubble burst and led to an economic implosion.
> 11. The bombs themselves were so unstable they would have flown back
> towards their B-29 and exploded.
They put extra lead in the bombs so they would be sure gravity pulled
them into the black hole they dropped beforehand.
> 12. One of the first Atomic Bomber Prototype Test Planes crashed
> during testing. The ABPTP was too dangerous too fly, and yet they
> built more than 4,000 production aircraft!
The first rule of government: 'why build one when you can build
4,000?'
> 13. If atomic bombs could be dropped on cities 60 years ago, we would
> still be dropping them today.
Dropping a-bombs is fun!
> 14. Computing power was insufficient to guide the bombs to their
> targets.
Slide rules were all they needed.
> 15. In a 2003 Gallup poll, 98% of Americans doubted that nuclear
> weapons even existed.
In the same Gallup poll; 100% of Americans didn't believe Gallup polls
existed.
> 16. The photos of the destruction are remarkably similar to the 1984
> BBC television film Threads, and unsurprisingly, most of the
> photographs of the bombing's aftermath didn't start appearing until
> the mid 80s.
We had to wait until Photoshop was invented.
> 18. No one could see any stars in the sky the night after the bombing.
Especially all the sailors in submarines.
> 19. Some of the shadows created by the heat of the fireball aren't
> completely black.
True black paint had been invented yet.
> 20. The movement of crew members aboard the Atomic Bomb Dropping Plane
> would have changed it's center off gravity, knocking it off-balance.
That's why they installed a helicopter rotor on top to stabilize it.
> 21. Many survivors never heard the sound of the explosion, which is
> completely absurd.
We should send a written transcript of how it sounded.
> 22. If you speed the footage of the blast four times, it's obviously
> just a small bomb filmed in extreme close-up.
My M-80's look just like that!
> 23. All of the photos taken after the bombing are perfectly framed and
> exposed.
We should have sent someone with cheaper cameras to make the pictures
look worse than they were.
> 24. If the bombings were real, Truman would have had General
> Eisenhower and Robert Oppenheimer killed in a fire for opposing them.
I thought he did do that?
> 25. A feather dropped from a plane at 30,000 feet would take longer to
> hit the ground than an atomic bomb.
The bomb was made from light weight foam.
> 26. The ABDP had two bomb bays in the center of it's fuselage. There's
> no way the crew could have accessed the rear compartment with them in
> the way.
One bomb bay was removed and a small pond was installed so that the
crew could sail out to the other bay.
> 27. The state of technology was so bad in 1945 rifles still had
> bayonets on them. Are we supposed to believe they could make an atomic
> bomb?
But the bayonets were made from depleted uranium.
Warhol
It seems hard to believe that less than 60 years ago we were naive
enough to believe everything our governments told us without question.
It is even harder to imagine that today forces still exist who will
stop at nothing to prevent the dissemination of pure, unadulterated
Truth. It is time for the outrageous lies propagated for the past half
century to be put to rest, and time for the real story behind one of
the United States' greatest cover-ups to be told. We at Adequacy have
uncovered incontrovertible proof that the so-called Nuclear
"Holocaust" in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was in fact staged in a
California movie studio.
the centre intrest...
http://ahboon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/hiroshima-01.jpg
Hiroshima, the Top News Story That Wasn't...
by: by Humberto Marquez
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0807-01.htm
Quote:
The atomic bomb that was dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima 60
years ago, on Aug. 6, 1945, may have been the most crucial event of
the 20th century. But it was not the top news story.
That was because censorship and the manipulative media treatment of
the tragic event, managed by Washington and Tokyo, greatly muffled the
impact of the catastrophe and made the press an accomplice in the war.
Quote:
On Aug. 7, 1945, newspapers in Japan merely printed short articles
reporting that B-29 planes had dropped incendiary bombs on Hiroshima,
causing some damage. *
When they bombed Hiroshima the experts predicted nothing would grow
there for near 70 years. One week after the bombing of Hiroshima the
vegetation started growing and proliferating unhampered. They called
that a miracle. I call it contradiction. They showed us a watch that
stopped at 8:15am but never explained rationally why a mechanical
watch would stop like that. If this were true about the watch then we
would see piles of them stacked up in museums not just one.
They said people could see birds exploding in mid-air without
explaining how people subjected to a blinding flash of light prior
could make such an observation. I have seen tons of photos of the
destruction at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many of these post destruction
pictures show clean streets and not a single dead bird. I believe the
birds buggered out when the hundreds of B-29 approached the city for
the bombing run. The noise of those big engines must have been
incredible.
Also, The US did not have a backup plan in case the bomb failed to go
off as planned. Imagine the following headlines:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9859/newspaperwv3.jpg
Another important fact is the reality that the B-29 engines were
plagued with overheating problems. So many in fact that several
bombers would routinely ditch in the ocean or were forced to turn
back. Hardly the ideal means of delivery for the world's first multi-
billion dollar weapon. Funny thing is that Hitler also considered
flying his atom bomb into Manhattan by superbomber aircraft.
There's plenty more contradictions. Too many I say.
American Eagle
Not all of it!
>
>
BDK
@e8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> On Sep 30, 6:32 pm, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > In article <90020d66-9031-4137-bbda-c17af7ac11a7
> > @a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 30, 5:55 am, George <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> > > > On Sep 30, 1:05 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > What happened to the fear of radiation poisoning? The hoaxsters had
> > > > > not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
> > > > > fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
> > > > > from circulation
> >
> > > > You -are- aware that the effcts of radiation and fallout were very
> > > > tenuous subjects at the time ?
> >
> > > > And a great number of those scientists died from radiation induced
> > > > illnesses
> >
> > > how comes hiroshima has been rebuilt?
> >
> > Why do you think, moron? I knew you were insane, but I didn't think you
> > were this dumb.
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
> I love the truth. I hate lies and false historical records. The best
> evidence at my disposal at this present time indicates that the atom
> bomb stories and the rest of those hoax clusters are pure tribal BS.
> Prove me wrong.
In reality, you hate the truth, and prefer to lie, and to believe lies
of all kinds.
>
> A list of reasons why the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> were FAKE!
>
Lots and lots of klueless kooktardic komedy follows...BWHAHAHAHA!
>
>
> 1. The bombs yielded between 15 and 20 kilotons, but didn't leave a
> gigantic charred blast crater.
They went off high enough not to.
> 2. Supposedly, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima killed 70,000 people
> outright. Japan instituted a "Duck and Cover" plan in 1929, but for
> some reason didn't use it in Hiroshima.
A couple of planes at that point wasn't a big deal to the Japanese. When
planes came over without end by the hundreds, that would get a reaction.
> 3. It's impossible to pack 15,000 tons of explosives into a bomb ten
> feet long and three feet around.
Not if it's a nuclear weapon, Wormhole!
> 4. A 500 pound bomb can destroy everything within 20 feet. Therefore,
> the Little Boy bomb should have flattened everything in a 114 mile
> radius.
BWHAHAHAHAHA! That's hilariously wrong. Math and science aren't for you,
jew hatin and bible babbling are your true gifts.
> 5. The primary cause of death from a nuclear explosions are flashing
> skeletonizer rays that vaporize people instantly. This didn't happen
> in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
BWHAHAHAHAHA! Watching The Terminator isn't the same as science class.
> 6. Most of Hiroshima was flattened, but a building near the center of
> the explosion survived except for having all it's glass shattered.
Near the center Wormhole, not at the center.
> 7. The Russians built an atomic bomb in about the same amount as time
> as the Americans, which is completely ridiculous considering their
> vast technological superiority.
Ever hear of spies, Wormhole?
> 8. The burn shadows caused by the heat of the fireball are almost
> always non-parallel.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Non-parallel to what?
> 9. The intense heat of the explosion would have melted film for miles
> around, and yet people were taking photos of the destruction within
> hours.
Why would it stay hot enough to melt film, since it didn't melt people
past a certain point?
> 10. The radiation caused by the bombs would have created a permanent
> radioactive bubble around Japan which no one could enter unless
> shielded by six feet of lead.
ROTFL, you have to be a comedy act.
> 11. The bombs themselves were so unstable they would have flown back
> towards their B-29 and exploded.
WTF?
> 12. One of the first Atomic Bomber Prototype Test Planes crashed
> during testing. The ABPTP was too dangerous too fly, and yet they
> built more than 4,000 production aircraft!
B-29's had been in use for some time, Wormhole.
> 13. If atomic bombs could be dropped on cities 60 years ago, we would
> still be dropping them today.
LOL.
> 14. Computing power was insufficient to guide the bombs to their
> targets.
Computing power???
> 15. In a 2003 Gallup poll, 98% of Americans doubted that nuclear
> weapons even existed.
Having reading problems too?
> 16. The photos of the destruction are remarkably similar to the 1984
> BBC television film Threads, and unsurprisingly, most of the
> photographs of the bombing's aftermath didn't start appearing until
> the mid 80s.
Maybe in the asylum, but in the outside world, most of the pics had been
out for quite some time, and weren't new when I saw them in the early
60's.
> 18. No one could see any stars in the sky the night after the bombing.
Who told you this? Gran'Papp'pee?
> 19. Some of the shadows created by the heat of the fireball aren't
> completely black.
Now you're just babbling.
> 20. The movement of crew members aboard the Atomic Bomb Dropping Plane
> would have changed it's center off gravity, knocking it off-balance.
You're melting down.
> 21. Many survivors never heard the sound of the explosion, which is
> completely absurd.
Not as absurd as this post of yours.
> 22. If you speed the footage of the blast four times, it's obviously
> just a small bomb filmed in extreme close-up.
You're the king of absurd.
> 23. All of the photos taken after the bombing are perfectly framed and
> exposed.
They were? I saw a lot of shaking from turbulence.
> 24. If the bombings were real, Truman would have had General
> Eisenhower and Robert Oppenheimer killed in a fire for opposing them.
Truman was a sane guy, and was POTUS, and outranked Ike, and could just
ignore anyone else who didn't want the bombs used.
> 25. A feather dropped from a plane at 30,000 feet would take longer to
> hit the ground than an atomic bomb.
Ok....
> 26. The ABDP had two bomb bays in the center of it's fuselage. There's
> no way the crew could have accessed the rear compartment with them in
> the way.
BWHAHAHAHA! One bomb per plane, per dropping, Wormhole.
> 27. The state of technology was so bad in 1945 rifles still had
> bayonets on them. Are we supposed to believe they could make an atomic
> bomb?
Yes, because they did, there's ample proof.
Maybe Guthball can explain it to you.
BradGuth
> On Sep 30, 9:14 pm, George <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 3:45 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 30, 5:55 am, George <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> > > > You -are- aware that the effcts of radiation and fallout were very
> > > > tenuous subjects at the time ?
>
> > > > And a great number of those scientists died from radiation induced
> > > > illnesses
>
> > > how comes hiroshima has been rebuilt?
>
> > The areas around the two blast centres were being built on within
> > weeks of the bombing which accounted for the large numbers of
> > radiation illnesses amongst the population.
> > All they could see was empty space and the idea of invisible radiation
> > being lethal was hand waved away.
>
> It seems hard to believe that less than 60 years ago we were naive
> enough to believe everything our governments told us without question.
> It is even harder to imagine that today forces still exist who will
> stop at nothing to prevent the dissemination of pure, unadulterated
> Truth. It is time for the outrageous lies propagated for the past half
> century to be put to rest, and time for the real story behind one of
> the United States' greatest cover-ups to be told. We at Adequacy have
> uncovered incontrovertible proof that the so-called Nuclear
> "Holocaust" in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was in fact staged in a
> California movie studio.
>
I can agree with there being far too many contradictions, and "There
are so many stories that were never told, personal accounts that were
never written, and which even today remain buried with the victims.
The news of what had happened was covered up for days, months, and
finally years, until it was completely silenced."
"In her view, journalists must "investigate in order to know, know in
order to report, and report in order to create awareness," especially
in the current International Decade for a Culture of Peace
(2001-2010), declared by the United Nations."
The public news and all sorts of information media is very much cartel/
cabal controlled, moderated and/or under sever threats of their being
destroyed or worse if they violate policies set by a relatively small
but powerful group of insiders.
Because this insider group of infowar rusemasters that's clearly
kosher dominated can not directly prevent individuals from posting
blogs and Usenet/newsgroup topics and replies, is why our mainstream
media is forbidden to report upon any part of our independent research
and subsequent information, or to otherwise interact and exchange
information or even ideas with us, and it's why 99.9% of Usenet/
newsgroups is saturated with bogus individuals and those crazy brown-
nosed clowns that I call kosher shadows.
Freedom of speech is therefore another falsehood and/or distortion of
Democracy, because it's purely a conditional freedom of speech. Even
the right to our public funded research is tightly moderated and/or
extensively kept as need-to-know, and apparently the public doesn't
need to know 99.9% of what's actually the case. Given three to four
generations down the road, we might eventually get to learn portions
of the truth that survived being buried for so long, and of course by
then it's too late to have prevented other mistakes and the subsequent
collateral damage, such as allowing a waste of time and resources is
another form of collateral damage.
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
http://www.alaskapublishing.com
http://www.guarddogbooks.com
BDK
6ee681...@p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
> http://www.alaskapublishing.com
> http://www.guarddogbooks.com
>
It's amazing how you respond to Wormhole's insane claims with even
kookier ones, not even really related to what he's raving about.
Congrats Brad, lollipop Venus Goodbar Caramel Sprinkles.
BradGuth
> In article <7f04b491-f619-43b1-b53b-
> 6ee681426...@p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says...
Why would Big Dumb Kunt care anything about this or any other topic?
Have you ever in you pathetic life constructively contributed or
having otherwise accomplished anything?
~ BG
George
> > 27. The state of technology was so bad in 1945 rifles still had
> > bayonets on them. Are we supposed to believe they could make an atomic
> > bomb?
>
> Yes, because they did, there's ample proof.
>
> Maybe Guthball can explain it to you.
Rifles are still issued with bayonets.
Its obvious we're not dealing with some-one who has any knowledge of
matters military.
BradGuth
I think our Warhol spends a little too much of his time in the same
caves as OBL. However, from time to time he makes good arguments that
are not entirely bogus. His doom and gloom usually misses the mark,
but then all it takes is for one of those pesky God rocks to get past
our radar and manage to encounter Earth, and otherwise one good
geothermally and seismic enhanced lava belch of a richter scale 9+
from Yellowstone could easily represent that Warhol "lake of fire".
~ BG
Warhol
The Origins of the Dirty Bomb: The U.S. Military and Radiological
Weapons
By Robert Jacobs
Quote:
The Other Hiroshima Council of A-Bomb Sufferers Organizations
Quote:
In May of 2002, the U.S. government arrested Jose Padilla, a U.S.
citizen, on suspicion of being an agent of al-Qaeda and of planning to
detonate a “dirty bomb” in an American city.
Dirty bombs are “radiological weapons” and are different from nuclear
weapons. Nuclear weapons trigger a nuclear chain reaction that
releases the vast energies contained within atoms.
A dirty bomb is a bomb containing conventional explosives that is
packed with radioactive substances that are dispersed into the
surrounding environment causing widespread radioactive contamination;
it does not involve an actual nuclear chain reaction. In this sense,
it is a “poison weapon” since it spreads a deadly poison radioactivity
by means of an explosion.
A dirty bomb is unlikely to cause considerable physical impact from
the explosion itself, but rather a catastrophic impact from the
contamination of a particular urban area with deadly radiation.
Time magazine reports that, “dirty nukes are what you might choose to
build if you’re unable to create a real nuclear bomb...the assumption
has been that forces who would build a dirty nuke would do so because
it’s far, far easier.”
However, in October of 2007 Associated Press military reporter Robert
Burns published a story that shed some light on who has considered
using such weapons in the past. Burns describes secret 1948 U.S.
plans, “approved at the highest levels of the Army,” to use
“radioactive materials from atomic bomb- making to contaminate swathes
of enemy land or to target military bases, factories or troop
formations,” or even to assassinate “important individuals such as
military or civilian leaders.”
This memo was dated July 1948, not quite three years after the
bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. During this period, in both
Japanese cities the U.S. had set up the Atomic Bomb Casualty
Commission to study the effects on human beings of radiation exposure.
The first year after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the U.S.
conducted nuclear weapon tests at the Bikini Atoll in the South
Pacific. The second Bikini test Test Baker involved detonating a
nuclear weapon underwater. This test resulted in such high levels of
residual radiation in the area that it forced the canceling of a
scheduled third test because the levels were so high.
In the official top-secret evaluation of the Bikini tests, written in
1947, we can begin to see a reexamination of the bomb as a
radiological weapon by the U.S. military, and the starting point of
the memo that Burns discovered:
“When a bomb is exploded underwater, lethal residual radioactivity
assumes an importance greater than the physical damage caused by the
explosion...the detonation of a bomb in a body of water contiguous to
a city would vastly
enhance its radiation effects by creation of a base surge whose mist,
contaminated with fission products, and dispersed by wind over great
areas, would not only have an immediately lethal effect, but would
establish a long term
hazard through the contamination of structures by the deposition of
radioactive particles.”
“We can form no adequate mental picture of the multible disasters
which would befall a modern city, blasted by one or more atomic bombs
and enveloped by radioactive mists.
Of the survivors in contaminated areas, some would be doomed to die of
radiation sickness in hours, some in days, and others in years. But
these areas, irregular in size and shape, as wind and topography might
form them, would have no visible boundaries.
No survivor could be certain he was not among the doomed and so, added
to the terror of the moment, thousands would be stricken with a fear
of death and the uncertainty of the time of its arrival.”
“Thousands, perhaps millions, of refugees would rush from the city in
panic, breaking down remaining transportation facilities, congesting
highways, and creating in their flight new hazards to life. Among the
refugees, for the moment unidentifiable from the rest, would be
numbers whose contaminated clothing and any other goods they carried
could establish in others the fear of dangerous radioactivity, thus
creating a unique psychological hazard.”
It was clear that the military had a vivid grasp of the powers of this
new weapon. It saw that the atomic bomb could be effective both as a
weapon of devastating impact and also as a
radiological weapon, capable of poisoning vast areas beyond its
immediate effects of blast and heat.
Further, military planners quickly saw the obvious possibility of
using radiation as a terror-weapon aimed at destroying the enemy’s
civilian population. The U.S. military would soon develop and test
such radiological weapons as “radiological mists” and “radiological
sand” separately from nuclear weapons.
It was just such weapons that Rep. Albert Gore Sr. (D-Tenn) had in
mind when he advocated creating a radioactive “death belt” to
“quarantine” North Korea from South Korea in 1951.
So while current Western fears may paint the dirty bomb as a cheap
alternative to “real” nuclear weapons for terrorists, it was the
nation in sole possession of the first nuclear weapons that also first
designed and built radiological weapons. Perhaps this is just one more
of the many examples of “blowback” being experienced as a result of
the history of U.S. militarism.
Jacobs is assistant professor at HPI
The Origins of the Dirty Bomb by Robert Jacobs
http://serv.peace.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp/English/index.htm
Quote:
i Mark Thompson, “What is a ‘Dirty Bomb’?” Time (June 10, 2002).
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182637,00.html
This was among the reasons that it was concluded that “the ii Robert
Burns, “U.S. Considered Radiological Weapon,” USA Today (Oct.
bomb is preeminently a weapon for use against human life and 8, 2007).
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-10-08-
activities in large urban and industrial areas.” iv The report went
radiological-weapon_N.htm>
iii JCS 1691/3, Enclosure D, June 30, 1947, pp. 57-89.
on to offer a vivid psychological portrait of the effectiveness of
iv JCS 1691/3.
using radioactivity as a weapon: v JCS 1691/3.
vi “Atomic Death Belt Possible,” Science News Letter 59:17 (April 28,
1951),
“We can form no adequate mental picture of the p. 261.
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..so what about ..pictures here above ..taken just after some hours
of blast..& and seemingly people escaping out.. of .."hazards"..
BDK
@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
BWHAHAHAHA! An angry, frustrated Brad is a funnier than usual Brad.
I have donated time and money to several charities, and have helped
friends out financially and by helping them move, do construction work,
installed appliances, and fixed their PCs.
I guess maybe I should ask a similar question back to you..
Other than insane rants about "pretend atheists", Jews, and Venus, have
you ever done anything constructive, or accomplished anything except
proving yourself to be insane?
BDK
e0bee7...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, gbl...@hnpl.net says...
I know, but I wanted Brad and Wormhole to babble incoherently...
BradGuth
> In article <b0c007ba-1885-45ed-a875-d5e3b703a247
> @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says...
I have done the same in addition to my self-employed work, except I
don't have to hide myself and otherwise cower behind any bogus code
names like yourself and others of your pretend-Atheist kind. btw,
which side of our government are you pretending to be on (republican
or democrat)?
>
> Other than insane rants about "pretend atheists", Jews, and Venus, have
> you ever done anything constructive, or accomplished anything except
> proving yourself to be insane?
Except those "pretend atheists", Jews that are seriously bad boys and
nasty gals, and the planet Venus with its intelligent other life do
actually exist, as well as our semi-hollow moon/Selene and its nifty
L1 that our crack NASA can't quite figure out.
How about Warhol's latest topic "The American invasion has started".
Got any good mainstream obfuscations and denial for us on that one?
~ BG
Warhol
One more thing:
Underground nuclear test = above surface dirty Nuclear bomb
Especially; when Nuclear Tests took place near resources of drinkable
waters and agricultural lands and rivers. Imagine the spectacular
human disaster when some Rogue government intended to massacre slowly
and quietly its own people or rendering them paralyzed ills, and the
incident is covered by the supporting foreign intelligence agencies
that covered the incident.
Wooo, then it might be one of the biggest scandals of this century, no
matter of that people deserved or not.
PS... Operation TOPOFF in October. Why not give the troops on your
streets a Little Beruit welcome!
Are we just the next set of lab mice for the powers that be to
experiment on? To bad the people of Portland have decided to let this
fiasco take place. Yes my friends, something is up and do not be
surprised if in the next couple of weeks, the real plans are exposed
to the unsuspecting masses.
BradGuth
>
> One more thing:
>
> Underground nuclear test = above surface dirty Nuclear bomb
>
> Especially; when Nuclear Tests took place near resources of drinkable
> waters and agricultural lands and rivers. Imagine the spectacular
> human disaster when some Rogue government intended to massacre slowly
> and quietly its own people or rendering them paralyzed ills, and the
> incident is covered by the supporting foreign intelligence agencies
> that covered the incident.
>
> Wooo, then it might be one of the biggest scandals of this century, no
> matter of that people deserved or not.
>
> PS... Operation TOPOFF in October. Why not give the troops on your
> streets a Little Beruit welcome!
>
> Are we just the next set of lab mice for the powers that be to
> experiment on? To bad the people of Portland have decided to let this
> fiasco take place. Yes my friends, something is up and do not be
> surprised if in the next couple of weeks, the real plans are exposed
> to the unsuspecting masses.
Tactical nuclear weapons (TNW) are relatively low yield (0.1<10 kt)
and otherwise relatively fuel efficient and thus undirty, unless
intentionally made otherwise.
However, pound per pound or per kg, VX (roughly a thousand fold more
lethal than DDT, and <400 fold worse off than Sarin) is still far more
effective and nearly undetectable outside of its easily cloaked
containers. 10 mg will do you in, and as little as 1 mg can make you
sick as hell within minutes of exposure, whereas radiation takes
considerable time (multiple days, even weeks or up to a month and
possibly longer before you're out of commission).
A dirty bomb would be downright unfortunate, but it wouldn't be
entirely insurmountable nor prevent a major retaliation effort,
because such dirty bombs could be easily traceable back to their
original source.
~ BG
BDK
@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
BWHAHAHA! I've always been leaning towards the democrats and have been a
real atheist for over 45 years. And I'm sane enough to know posting on
usenet under my real name is a really nutty thing to do. Explains why
you do it, I guess.
>
> >
> > Other than insane rants about "pretend atheists", Jews, and Venus, have
> > you ever done anything constructive, or accomplished anything except
> > proving yourself to be insane?
>
> Except those "pretend atheists", Jews that are seriously bad boys and
> nasty gals, and the planet Venus with its intelligent other life do
> actually exist, as well as our semi-hollow moon/Selene and its nifty
> L1 that our crack NASA can't quite figure out.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're fully in subspace, ready to warp out. Hopefully
the gravity compensation will prevent your brain from squishing like it
did last time you warped out.
>
> How about Warhol's latest topic "The American invasion has started".
> Got any good mainstream obfuscations and denial for us on that one?
He's a raving loon. It's just another privately run jail. Lots of those
around. Bad idea in general, but hardly a plot to rule DA VERLT!!
>
> ~ BG
Warhol
By Robert Jacobs
http://serv.peace.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp/English/index.htm
.the same rush... like Moon-Boys through Von Fullen Belts.
Warhol
> In article <2d055e65-da35-4617-9835-
> 1201a8703...@c28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
The Ancients had Atomic Bombs... current day civilization has not...
"Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana hurled a single
projectile charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand
suns rose in all its splendor... a perpendicular explosion with its
billowing smoke clouds...the cloud of smoke rising after its first
explosion formed into expanding round circles like the opening of
giant parasols... it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a
gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of
the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and
nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds
turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected... to
escape from this fire. The soldiers threw themselves in streams to
wash themselves and their equipment."
Ancient verses from the Mahabharata: 6500 years ago... is probably the
best description of ancient atomic warfare one can find
During the first Egyptian “pyramid war”, between Horus and Seth,
Horus strikes:
“…(and he) let loose against them a storm which they could neither
see with their eyes, nor hear with their ears. It brought death to all
of them in a single moment…” (Sitchin, 1985)
This sounds to me like the gamma-ray and neutron pulse from a sub-
kiloton nuclear weapon, which has no fireball and the nuclear
radiation extends far beyond the blast wave.
Zeus battles the Titans:
“The hot vapor lapped around the Titans, of Gaea born, flame
unspeakable rose bright to the upper air. The Flashing glare of the
Thunder-Stone, its lightning, blinded their eyes-so strong it was.
Astounding heat seized Chaos… It seemed as if Earth and wide Heaven
above had come together, a mighty crash, as though Earth was hurled to
ruin. Also were the winds brought rumbling, earthquake and dust storm,
thunder and lightning.” (Sitchin, 1985).
I would guess that this was a large nuclear weapon which was detonated
on or close to the ground, thus producing a large mushroom cloud.
Zeus conquering Thyphon:
“A flame shot forth from the stricken lord in the dim, rugged,
secluded valley of the Mount, when he was smitten. A great part of
huge earth was scorched by the terrible vapor, melting as tin melts
when heated by man’s art…in the glow of a blazing fire did the earth
melt down.” (Sitchin, 1985).
Biblical references to nuclear warfare:
- The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah:
“…(Abraham) looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah…and he beheld and
saw a smoke rising from the earth, as the smoke of a furnace.”
(Gen 18:27).
- “…and the Lord sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along
upon the ground; and the Lord rained hail upon the land of Egypt.”
– Exodus 9:23
“And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and
were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the Lord cast down great
stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were
more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel
slew with the sword.”
– Joshua 10:11
“And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him
and his fifty.”
– 2 Kings 1:12
-“Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine
anger: the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall
devour them.”
– Psalms 21:9
“A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round
about.”
– Psalms 97:3
“Thou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder, and
with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the
flame of devouring fire.”
– Isaiah 29:6
There are many other clues regarding ancient nuclear warfare.
“white hot smoke that was a thousand times brighter than the sun
rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes. Water
boiled… horses and war chariots were burned by the thousands… the
corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they
no longer looked like human beings…”
From one of the oldest chronicles of India... the Book of Dzyan:
"Separation did not bring peace to these people and finally their
anger reached a point where the ruler of the original city took with
him a small number of his warriors and they rose into the air in a
huge shining metal vessel. While they were many leagues from the city
of their enemies, they launched a great shining lance that rode on a
beam of light. It burst apart in the city of their enemies with a
great ball of flame that shot up to the heavens, almost to the stars.
All those who were in the city were horribly burned and even those who
were not in the city - but nearby - were burned also.
Those who looked upon the lance and the ball of fire were blinded
forever afterward. Those who entered the city on foot became ill and
died. Even the dust of the city was poisoned, as were the rivers that
flowed through it. Men dared not go near it, and it gradually crumbled
into dust and was forgotten by men. When the leader saw what he had
done to his own people he retired to his palace and refused to see
anyone. Then he gathered about him those warriors who remained, and
their wives and children, and they entered their vessels and rose one
by one into the sky and sailed away. Nor did they return."
BDK
@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> Horus strikes:
>
> =3F=3F(and he) let loose against them a storm which they could neither
> see with their eyes, nor hear with their ears. It brought death to all
>
> This sounds to me like the gamma-ray and neutron pulse from a sub-
> kiloton nuclear weapon, which has no fireball and the nuclear
> radiation extends far beyond the blast wave.
>
> Zeus battles the Titans:
>
> unspeakable rose bright to the upper air. The Flashing glare of the
> Thunder-Stone, its lightning, blinded their eyes-so strong it was.
> above had come together, a mighty crash, as though Earth was hurled to
> ruin. Also were the winds brought rumbling, earthquake and dust storm,
>
> I would guess that this was a large nuclear weapon which was detonated
> on or close to the ground, thus producing a large mushroom cloud.
>
> Zeus conquering Thyphon:
>
> secluded valley of the Mount, when he was smitten. A great part of
> huge earth was scorched by the terrible vapor, melting as tin melts
> melt down.=3F (Sitchin, 1985).
>
> Biblical references to nuclear warfare:
>
> - The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah:
>
> saw a smoke rising from the earth, as the smoke of a furnace.=3F
>
> (Gen 18:27).
>
> - =3F=3Fand the Lord sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along
> upon the ground; and the Lord rained hail upon the land of Egypt.=3F
>
> =3F Exodus 9:23
>
> =3FAnd it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and
> were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the Lord cast down great
> stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were
> more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel
>
> =3F Joshua 10:11
>
> =3FAnd the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him
> and his fifty.=3F
>
> =3F 2 Kings 1:12
>
> -=3FThou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine
> anger: the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall
>
> =3F Psalms 21:9
>
> =3FA fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round
> about.=3F
>
> =3F Psalms 97:3
>
>
> =3FThou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder, and
> with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the
>
> =3F Isaiah 29:6
>
> There are many other clues regarding ancient nuclear warfare.
>
>
>
> rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes. Water
> corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they
>
> From one of the oldest chronicles of India... the Book of Dzyan:
>
> "Separation did not bring peace to these people and finally their
> anger reached a point where the ruler of the original city took with
> him a small number of his warriors and they rose into the air in a
> huge shining metal vessel. While they were many leagues from the city
> of their enemies, they launched a great shining lance that rode on a
> beam of light. It burst apart in the city of their enemies with a
> great ball of flame that shot up to the heavens, almost to the stars.
> All those who were in the city were horribly burned and even those who
> were not in the city - but nearby - were burned also.
>
>
>
> Those who looked upon the lance and the ball of fire were blinded
> forever afterward. Those who entered the city on foot became ill and
> died. Even the dust of the city was poisoned, as were the rivers that
> flowed through it. Men dared not go near it, and it gradually crumbled
> into dust and was forgotten by men. When the leader saw what he had
> done to his own people he retired to his palace and refused to see
> anyone. Then he gathered about him those warriors who remained, and
> their wives and children, and they entered their vessels and rose one
> by one into the sky and sailed away. Nor did they return."
>
>
You're proving to be exactly what a lot of people think you are.
A bible babble babbling loon.
Maybe you'll wind up with Jazzercize after you die, in a kooktardic
bigot "heaven".
More likely, you'll be worm food.
BradGuth
Sounds a little more like those Ancients used a version of VX.
~ BG
Warhol
Four Myths About Nuclear Weapons: Hiroshima, H-bomb ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bB9_hsETP4
Ward Wilson, grand prize winner of the 2008 Doreen and Jim McElvany
Nonproliferati...
BDK
@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
> > > Horus strikes:
> >
> > > =3F=3F(and he) let loose against them a storm which they could neither
> > > see with their eyes, nor hear with their ears. It brought death to all
> >
> > > This sounds to me like the gamma-ray and neutron pulse from a sub-
> > > kiloton nuclear weapon, which has no fireball and the nuclear
> > > radiation extends far beyond the blast wave.
> >
> > > Zeus battles the Titans:
> >
> > > unspeakable rose bright to the upper air. The Flashing glare of the
> > > Thunder-Stone, its lightning, blinded their eyes-so strong it was.
> > > above had come together, a mighty crash, as though Earth was hurled to
> > > ruin. Also were the winds brought rumbling, earthquake and dust storm,
> >
> > > I would guess that this was a large nuclear weapon which was detonated
> > > on or close to the ground, thus producing a large mushroom cloud.
> >
> > > Zeus conquering Thyphon:
> >
> > > secluded valley of the Mount, when he was smitten. A great part of
> > > huge earth was scorched by the terrible vapor, melting as tin melts
> > > melt down.=3F (Sitchin, 1985).
> >
> > > Biblical references to nuclear warfare:
> >
> > > - The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah:
> >
> > > saw a smoke rising from the earth, as the smoke of a furnace.=3F
> >
> > > (Gen 18:27).
> >
> > > - =3F=3Fand the Lord sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along
> > > upon the ground; and the Lord rained hail upon the land of Egypt.=3F
> >
> > > =3F Exodus 9:23
> >
> > > were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the Lord cast down great
> > > stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were
> > > more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel
> >
> > > =3F Joshua 10:11
> >
> > > =3FAnd the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him
> > > and his fifty.=3F
> >
> > > =3F 2 Kings 1:12
> >
> > > anger: the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall
> >
> > > =3F Psalms 21:9
> >
> > > =3FA fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round
> > > about.=3F
> >
> > > =3F Psalms 97:3
> >
> > > with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the
> >
> > > =3F Isaiah 29:6
> >
> > > There are many other clues regarding ancient nuclear warfare.
> >
> > > rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes. Water
> > > corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they
You still raving about nukes being nonexistent?
There's no end to your kookery, is there?
Warhol
WHAAA!!?? 93 y/o Japanese Man survived BOTH nuclear bombs in 1945 !!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jUV6MqZcKpbfBFySNxFUyBybcXmA
93 years old after taking in all that radiation?
He sits and says "Damn I was hit by a bomb in Hiroshima so I'll just
walk to Nagasaki!" and BAM! gets hit by the second one.
Here ya go...he looks pretty good for a 93 y/o dude.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/25/hiroshima-nagasaki-survivor-japan
BradGuth
This one you're going to have to accept as much as you've accepted the
pesky existence of BDK, rabbi Sail Levy and those other kosher brown-
nosed clowns.
Fortunately those relatively dirty nukes of the past are no longer the
nature of modern nuclear weapons unless intentionally made or modified
for that reason. Not that our governments are without having fooled
or snookered us in the past, present and future, however the truth is,
once you've obtained the necessary raw materials for atomic bomb
making, it's less dangerous to accomplish than some of the
conventional weapons and especially less risky than incorporating VX
or a few other chemical/biological agents.
The only reason why our unclear reactor power plants are not using
thorium is because you can't obtain weapons grade materials by way of
using thorium.
~ BG
BradGuth
>
> WHAAA!!?? 93 y/o Japanese Man survived BOTH nuclear bombs in 1945 !!
>
>
> 93 years old after taking in all that radiation?
>
> He sits and says "Damn I was hit by a bomb in Hiroshima so I'll just
> walk to Nagasaki!" and BAM! gets hit by the second one.
>
An atomic bomb isn't as horrific as some have made them to be.
However, the subsequent burns from your surroundings and and fallout
from those early versions was real enough that few survived, although
some obviously survived better than others. Unfortunately there are
much greater nuclear weapons that would make those first two look like
firecrackers, not to mention having hundreds and perhaps thousands
more units to work with, and especially bad if both sides are capable
of exchanging nuclear blows.
BDK
b41fb5...@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
Proves nothing. If he had been close enough, he would have died in each
blast, and since he didn't he must have been far enough away that he
didn't get dosed with enough radiation to give him cancer later on.
Proves nothing, Wornhole, except that you're a gullible, clueless, loon.
Warhol
Brick built structures still standing, hmmm.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/images/Hiroshima-big.jpg
Hyped or fake nuclear threat
"One of the most startling facts that I discovered by application of
grid mathematics was that an atomic bomb is a device based on the
geometrics of space and time.
To be successfully detonated, the bomb MUST be geometrically
constructed, placed on, under, or over a geometric position in
relation to the Earth’s surface, and activated at a SPECIFIC TIME in
relation to the geometrics of the solar system.
I found that it was possible to precalculate the time of various bomb
tests, and the locations where it was possible to explode a
bomb.......I realised that an all-out atomic war was an impossibility.
Both sides could precalculate well in advance the time and positions
of atomic attack. Plus the fact that only certain geometric locations
could be detonated anyhow.
A logical war cannot be considered under these circumstances. This
could be the explanation for the proliferation of conventional weapons
in modern warfare."----Bruce Cathie
Firebombing aftermath at Tokyo:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Tokyo_1945-3-10-1.jpg
Warhol
Brad, stop playing the devils advocate...
there is no empirical evidence that atoms exist. No one has seen what
exists within an electron shell. What we know as atoms could easily be
something entirely different: http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm
If a nuclear weapon was really dropped on Hiroshima, there would be no
survivors. Just shows how much you know about the subject you're
trying to defend.
BradGuth
>
> Brad, stop playing the devils advocate...
>
> there is no empirical evidence that atoms exist. No one has seen what
> exists within an electron shell. What we know as atoms could easily be
> something entirely different:http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm
It could be the God particle, though I favor the photon as holding to
that title.
>
> If a nuclear weapon was really dropped on Hiroshima, there would be no
> survivors. Just shows how much you know about the subject you're
> trying to defend.
As I've said, the first nuclear/atom bombs were terribly inefficient.
A human survivor depends on many factors, mostly of the surrounding
terrain or significant structures shielding our frail DNA from that
original blast dosage, and that of not sticking around to absorb the
radioactive fallout goes without saying. Being upwind would help to
extensively minimize your fallout exposure.
If a modern version of say a 50 MT atomic bomb were centered over
Hiroshima, there would only be a glassy or ceramic like crater to look
at, and perhaps nothing of biodiversity would survive. However,
afterwords it wouldn't be terribly radioactive, though unlivable for
perhaps a few decades and/or until new topsoil covered everything by
at least a meter (<10 meters of topsoil would be ideal). But who'd
ever want to live in such a crater?
~ BG
George
> A logical war cannot be considered under these circumstances. This
> could be the explanation for the proliferation of conventional weapons
> in modern warfare."----Bruce Cathie
Bruce Cathie?
A kook who believed the world was connected by mysterious lines that
UFOs flew along.
Warhol
> In article <e7891ca4-8615-469f-8b1c-
> b41fb59a2...@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > 93 years old after taking in all that radiation?
>
> > He sits and says "Damn I was hit by a bomb in Hiroshima so I'll just
> > walk to Nagasaki!" and BAM! gets hit by the second one.
>
> > Here ya go...he looks pretty good for a 93 y/o dude.
>
> Proves nothing. If he had been close enough, he would have died in each
> blast, and since he didn't he must have been far enough away that he
> didn't get dosed with enough radiation to give him cancer later on.
>
> Proves nothing, Wornhole, except that you're a gullible, clueless, loon.
> --
>
New supporting evidence that nuclear bombs doest NOT exist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
All those military reports, test results, pictures, post-war
fatalities report and declassified documents that anyone can look up
are zionist lies.
The "theory backing it up," as you put it, is Einstein's flawed
"Theory of Relativity" which is officially debunked: http://www.you.com.au/news/1121.htm
Nightcrawler
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2534bd3f5...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>
> You still raving about nukes being nonexistent?
>
> There's no end to your kookery, is there?
>
Maybe Pigshit should call Dr. Bill's show and tell him what a liar he
is for claiming to have worked on the U.S. nuclear weapons program.
I'm sure Bill would get a kick out of kicking this joker in the teeth.
Nightcrawler
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2535468a6...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> Proves nothing. If he had been close enough, he would have died in each
> blast, and since he didn't he must have been far enough away that he
> didn't get dosed with enough radiation to give him cancer later on.
>
> Proves nothing, Wornhole, except that you're a gullible, clueless, loon.
Hell, just look up "nuclear test" on youtube. You'll find a bunch of good
videos.
Regardless, the above ground test were not done with huge bombs,
and they were done at ground level. Their blast radius was small and
the contamination/fallout was minimal.
The above ground test were not thermo-nuclear bombs. Big difference.
rincewind
> On Sep 30, 1:57 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 2:26 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 29, 8:48 am, william hubbard <williamhubb...@bluebottle.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 26, 1:04 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Do nuclear bombs exist?
>
> > > > > Your immediate answer is 'yes' - but how do you know?
>
> > > > > Quote:
> > > > > NUKELIES
>
> > > > > Click here to download higher-res .avi of NUKE LIES (99 MB)http://www.nukelies.com/NUKE%20LIES.avi
>
> > > > > Click here to watch on Google Videohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8408022369543439525&ei=NzlfSa...
>
> > > > > "There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of
> > > > > the vast majority by adequate governmental action."
>
> > > > > - Bertrand Russell
>
> > > > > i...@nukelies.com
>
> > > > > Excellent, highly suggestive evidence in the following video:
>
> > > > > CHECK OUT THIS NEW EVIDENCE CLIP ADDED 2009 SEPT 17:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> > > > >http://www.nukelies.com/
>
> > > > > Nuclear Bomb is Fake Pigsrael's God , If they don't exist fake bani
> > > > > yidsrael will disapear very soon as well as their Lickers
>
> > > > the proof would be in the sudden appearance of a mushroomcloud over
> > > > mecca..
>
> > > NO... there is not a single nuke working...
>
> > Perhaps you've been spending too much cave time with OBL.
>
> > ~ BG
>
> No Brad... Are you hallucinating? You must be if you think I can put
> that genie back in it's bottle.
>
> Here is a picture of Oppenheimer and Gen. Groves chatting where a so-
> called huge atomic explosion just took place:
>
> http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1557/20090214112053io5.jpg
>
> not deployed their radiation boogeyman yet. When they finally started
> fear mongering so-called radiation they forgot to remove this picture
> from circulation.
They shot "The Conqueror" in the same Nevada salt flats that were
being used for the post-war testing of these bombs you say don't
exist. They even made jokes about it (there's a photo of John Wayne in
the desert with a Geiger counter). Today, when you look back on the
unproprotionate number of cancer deaths in the cast and crew of "The
Conqueror," it doesn't seem so funny.
Warhol
The principle verifiable evidence for the existence of nuclear weapons
is the bombing of two cities in Japan in 1945 - Hiroshima and
Nagasaki.
The chief inspector of the US Secretary of War for these cities in the
aftermath of the bombings was US Army Major Alexander de Seversky. He
investigated many bombed cities throughout Japan.
On each occasion, he first conducted an aerial survey followed by a
through investigation on the ground, and he detected a similar pattern
in every city evidently due to the methods of the bombers as well as
the nature of the targets bombed.
He was prepared for and anticipated quite a shock in Hiroshima yet
found it to be completely the same as the rest of the cities he had
surveyed. There was no bald spot at the centre of the blast.
The metal framework of buildings standing in the middle epicentre of
the bomb blast were intact.
Some bricks had been blown out of those in the very centre, but the
Hiroshima hospital only a mile away from the center of the blast
suffered nothing more than having its windows blown out and no people
in the building were even hurt.
The greatest damage was NOT done by the blast but by fire as an after
effect which accounted for at least 60,000 of the 200,000 persons who
perished according to his report.
Ratty wooden houses of which there were many constituted the main
structural damage. Seversky concluded that the bomb had the effect of
a large incendiary as most of the damage was caused by fire alone and
not by the blast.
He also stated that a great deal of wood remained in the rubble of the
main area of the blast indicating that those buildings had not been
incinerated by the heat of a blast but were destroyed afterwards by
the fire that resulted from the bomb.
He stated that a fleet of 200 B-29's which each dropped a routine load
of incendiaries would have accomplished the same thing.
The same applies to Nagasaki. As a matter of fact, the Nagasaki bomb
was alleged to have been more powerful.
However, the principle area affected in Hiroshima constituted roughly
a four square mile area with the blast in the centre (i.e. roughly a
one mile radius around the centre of huts toppled by fires) yet the
principle area affected in Nagasaki's allegedly more powerful bomb was
only one solitary square mile.
Seversky wondered at why Nagasaki and especally Hiroshima had even
been chosen as targets since they had no military value.
They would very easily be destroyed by fire as the majoity of the
structures in these two cities were rickety termite eaten poor
Japanese wooden houses.
However, they would easily serve the purpose of someone planning to
elicit maximum propaganda value for the amount of destruction caused
as such structures are easily destroyed by fire.
(By the way, as far as propaganda goes one should also be careful of
quoting the figures of the Bomb MUseum in Hiroshima as it admittedly
derives its figure for the number of dead from the bomb from the
deaths of anyone who was within the affected area within two weeks
after the bombing including rescue workers, reporters, etc.
REGUARDLESS OF WHEN THEY DIE AND IS STILL COUNTING THESE DEATHS EVEN
TODAY.)
Major Seversky stated that the effect of one of these so-called atomic
bombs dropped on New York City would affect an area much smaller than
one of the five main buroughs.
As far as the retort to Seversky's article in the May 1946 issue of
Reader's Digest, NONE OF THE AUTHORITIES INTERVIEWED CONTESTED
SEVERSKY'S DESCRIPTION OF HIROSHIMA OR NAGASAKI OR THE FACTS HE
STATED.
They only argued his opinions such as his comparison with New York
City and his allegation that the incendiaries of 200 B-29's would have
accomplished the same effect.
I invite beast to visit for himself a library and read the results of
of Seversky's investigation in the February 1946 issue of Reader's
Digest in an article entitled 'Atomic Hysteria' which received a
mountain of protest by so-called experts in america who never came any
closer than 5000 miles away from Japan and who yet insisted that
Seversky's opinions were unfounded.
Do see their reply three months later in the May issue in which the
author interviewed many military and scientific authorities in an
effort to refute Seversky's article.
Note: these articles were apparently censored from the British
edition, but they do appear in the American editions of Reader's
Digest for February and May 1946.
Beast may take course to cite diverse alleged nuclear tests (below
ground, above ground, et cetera) throughout the Cold War in a number
of large countries. However, these tests including their precise
location and especiallt timing were always military secrets.
We are supposed to believe the propaganda that we were racing the
Germans to build the bomb, and miraculously developed it at the end of
the War as opposed to having it ready to use throughout the War. The
more a weapon is used, the more it is open to investigation and expose
of the ruse - the same reason the alleged Moon missions stopped.
Radiation fallout? What a load of rot.
As part of the synthetically manufactured atomic hysteria In 1947,
twenty-six young men came who worked with these allegedly WMD nuclear
weapons came into bodily contact with plutonium.
In 1980, a medical survey was conducted of these twenty-six men who
lived with plutonium inside them for 32 years and concluded that they
had all lived normal lives and only two of them had died - one was run
over by a truck and the other for a similarly irrelevant reason.
( This information appeared in the Financial Times in 1980.)
BDK
@f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
BWHAHAHAH! New? A clip from 1945? And it appears only a few of the
saddest kooks actually believe that there aren't any nukes. You're in a
very select club, Wormhole, one of the Nukes Don't Exist Kooks Klub.
It's kind of like putting a sign above your head saying, "I'm stupid".
>
> All those military reports, test results, pictures, post-war
> fatalities report and declassified documents that anyone can look up
> are zionist lies.
BWHAHAHAHA! What do "zionists" have to do with slamming hunks of
enriched uranium and/or plutonium together? (That's basically how it
works).
>
> The "theory backing it up," as you put it, is Einstein's flawed
> "Theory of Relativity" which is officially debunked: http://www.you.com.au/news/1121.htm
>
You can claim whatever theory you want, it makes no difference, you
gullible loon. Nukes have existed since 1945, and are as real as any
other weapon of WWII and beyond is.
BDK
Dirty...@dirtcheap.net says...
He seems to enjoy that kind of thing.
Creepy.
Warhol
> In article <f36a590e-298b-4cf9-8f28-00c0c9ada3b5
> @f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
>
> > New supporting evidence that nuclear bombs doest NOT exist:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZUhEMcbfY
>
> BWHAHAHAH! New? A clip from 1945? And it appears only a few of the
> saddest kooks actually believe that there aren't any nukes. You're in a
> very select club, Wormhole, one of the Nukes Don't Exist Kooks Klub.
> It's kind of like putting a sign above your head saying, "I'm stupid".
>
>
>
> > All those military reports, test results, pictures, post-war
> > fatalities report and declassified documents that anyone can look up
> > are zionist lies.
>
> BWHAHAHAHA! What do "zionists" have to do with slamming hunks of
> enriched uranium and/or plutonium together? (That's basically how it
> works).
>
>
>
> > The "theory backing it up," as you put it, is Einstein's flawed
> > "Theory of Relativity" which is officially debunked:http://www.you.com.au/news/1121.htm
>
> You can claim whatever theory you want, it makes no difference, you
> gullible loon. Nukes have existed since 1945, and are as real as any
> other weapon of WWII and beyond is.
>
> --
>
The Atom Bomb Hoax and more jewish lies..
Item 1)
The historical seismograms of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have mysteriously
vanished. If not only for the sake of war-era memorabilia, that
information should have been everywhere in the museums and in the
press. Hiroshima is located in a highly volcanic zone called the
Honshu Arc and those active volcanoes were under constant
seismographic surveillance during that period and log before that. The
so-called atomic blast at hiroshima was estimated to be the equivalent
of 6.2 on the Richter Scale but no seismological outpost in the world
appears to have noted it. The Russians said they exploded the biggest
atomic bomb ever made (50 megatons) at Novaya Zemlya in northern
Russia. That is hundreds of thousands of times more powerful than what
they say exploded over Hiroshima yet again, not one seismic needle
moved at all. How is that possible I ask?
Item 2)
In 1942 Hitler's Lufftwaffe had a plan to bomb Lower Manhatten in New
York City USA. This plan included a special transport behemouth to fly
the package across the Atlantic and deliver it to the target. This is
fully 3 years before Hiroshima yet the so-called atom bomb they said
they were using is the exact yield and deployed at the same height as
the one they say they dropped on Hiroshima. This suggests to me that
the atomic hoaxsters were shopping for a spot to nest the hoax. What
other possible explanation can there be? When the US started using
what they call atom bombs the used the uranuim hammer configurations
but the Hitler model is not specific at that level. So, what is Hitler
doing planning atom bomb attacks before he even had the facilities or
infrastructure to even start planning such late strategies. They never
said what they would replace that bomb with if it fell into the ocean
with the plane. Why would he not have delivered the package by boat
instead. How do we explain these contradictions?
Item 3)
The so-called nuclear industry, be it weapons or so-called
commercially viable nuclear reactors is the hoaxster's paradise. The
whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and
security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the
plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the NSA and risk
jailtime for attempted so-called nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is
compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect
cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters. So perfect in fact that I
believe the jews could not resist pulling off those massive long-cons
on the people of the world. How can they NOT have done it when the
opportunities, the means and the motives were all there for them to
exploit?
Item 4)
During the so-called billion-dollar east coast of the United States
blackout a good portion of that area was completely without power. How
is this possible when so many so-called nuclear reactors were supposed
to have autonomy? How is that possible that people can shell out 5
billion dollars to build a reactor and it can't light a lightbulb when
the grid goes down. My contention is that the reason the power failure
is so absolute is because the conventional sources are fueling the
hoax reactors. Who would build a distribution grid for electricity
like a superhighway that cloggs up when two cars collide on a country
road? Nobody would design a grid where a reactor can't support it's
customers when the other grid elements are compromised. I say this is
further evidence of the hoax. How can it be otherwise?
Item 5)
The mushroom cloud thermodynamics of the atom bomb hoax have also been
examined. The first problem the competant examiner notices with the
mushroom cloud photographed on the day Hiroshima was attacked is that
the sun is shining brightly overhead at the noon position. The bombing
was said to have been at 8:15 am. I have heard it argued that this was
the Nagasaki cloud but it has been used by the hoaxsters themselves
for Hiroshima and Justin Raimondo had this exact cloud for his essay,
Hiroshima, Mon Amour. Why would the jews want to say it is Nagasaki if
they have nothing to hide? I went to the public library in downtown
Montreal as a youth and I looked at microfilm of newspapers for that
day in 1945 and the picture I enlarged taken from the microfilm was
the cloud at noon and it was Hiroshima indeed. So, more evidence of a
hoax?
Item 6)
The firebombing of Tokyo March 9-10, 1945-100,000 dead. M-69 aimable
cluster firebombs reduced 26 square kilometers of that city to ash
using a few hundred U.S. Air Force B-29 bombers. Aside the cost of the
aircraft when initially built the cost of destroying all that section
of Tokyo was a little more than a million dollars. So, why build
anything that costs billions to destroy a fraction of the land those
B-29 bombers could have destroyed in under less than a million
dollars? Because the atom bomb was a lie and those cities reduced to
ash by M-69 firebombs and that also explains the mysterious vanishing
of the historical seismograms of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Are they
hiding the fact that there was no shock wave? Is that why the trees
were still standing charred and many building facades still standing?
Item 7)
Hiroshima was not evacuated and life came back to normal very quickly.
This is inconsistent with the models presented by the experts that
said nothing would grow for 70 years and nobody could live there for a
very long time. One week after the so-called atom bomb, oleanders were
growing everywhere. The hoaxsters started stories of a miracle. More
contradiction and nonsense from the jewish hoaxsters.
Item 8)
The pilot of the B-29 they said dropped the so-called atom bomb on
Hiroshima is a known Hollywood insider and his B-29 crew was totally
segregated on an island with the pilot Commander Tibbits fully in
charge of security and everything. He had full autonomy and
discretion. I believe his crew of talmudic cowards was near 200
aircraft when they sortie'd on Hiroshima then later on Nagasaki.
Another brilliant example of the secrecy and security shroud of
compartmentalization over the whole hoax. Why would this dumbass put
his mother's name on an instrument of utter genocide if it were not
that his mother gloats without end at jewish hoax accomplishments and
mass murder that she would be pleased to figure prominently on the
nose of that beast of destruction and mass murder. How can anyone
believe such a mess of contradictions when it is obvious they would
have been nuts not to exploit the means they had at their disposal
under those circumstances. They pulled it off while everyone on earth
was in a state of shock and would have believed anything the jews said
just to stop the ignited gasoline showers?
Item 9)
Items said to be radioactive have in fact been doped with x-ray
radiation for periods of time corresponding to the hoax expectations.
At the Pantex assembly plant in Amarillo Texas they have a very
powerful x-ray machine they say they use to look inside decomissioned
so-called atom bombs before they open them up. That is totally
rediculous because why would anything be wrong inside a bomb watched
by the military night and day. I say the x-ray machine is there to
dope the materials they assemble so that the x-ray detectors they call
rad meters can read something expected from the mathematical models.
When a rad meter is picking up x-ray radiation it is seemlessly and
logarithmically converting this sampled energy and reporting the
results as rads instead of x-ray energy that it is. When a student
examines a sample said to be radioactive it is a sample irradiated
prior using a high intensity x-ray machine. Again compartmentalization
plays a key role here at the Pantex plant. Coincidentally they are the
only plant in the US authorized to make the final assemblies of so-
called nuclear bombs. What else could they be using that huge x-ray
machine at Pantex if it is not to create illusions of atomic
radioactivity?
Item 10)
Einstein the plagerist. At least a few links provided at my Hiroshima
thread deal with the question of Einstein's honesty in claiming the
authorship of a lot of his predecessor's work. Some say his wife was
more the mathematical genius and coached him a lot. Anyways the
original and official story of the creation of the first so-called
atom bomb says that Einstein gave the letter he wrote to the president
of the United States to a financier in New York that bounced it around
town for a week before giving it to the president. This was a letter
explaining in terms a president could understand that atom bombs can
be made. The story says that everyone was paranoid that Hitler would
discover the plan to build a bomb yet they let the letter concerning
it's so-called feasibility float around town for a week. More
contradiction.
Item 11)
The jewish question. Can anyone deny that the jews had the means, the
motives, and the opportunities to hoax the world with fake atom bombs
and fake CVNEs and fake DU and the fake nuclear navy? They even faked
moonlandings and NAZIS holocausts lying bastards that they are. They
call their genocides wars and failed diplomacy, degenerate freaks.
They faked the dinosaurs too it would appear.
Item 12)
Iraq, why did they not find so-called atom bombs there?
Item13)
Suicide bombers, since when can't the underworld aquire atom bombs for
suicide missions if they are not bogus?
Item 14)
Why 60 years without so-called atom bomb accidental explosions or
terrorist explosions? Everything the jews running the government do is
sloppy and anyone with entry level skills can steal a package from the
military and configure it to their likings. Why has this never
occurred with the so-called atom bomb?
Item 15)
The global conspiracy in negotiable instruments run by the jews and
indoctrinated into the minds of the poor youth abandoned to those
pathetic indoctrination centers called public schools worldwide is a
very important factor in the widespread acceptance of the hoax
clusters of the atomic variety by the mainsteam public. The jewish
monopoly on the mainstream media is also another great element used to
ram the hoax down our throats while we are still very young and
vulnerable to fear. The gobal ring of jews running all the governments
of the world and controlling all the military forces of the planet
make the hoax possible also. Who can deny the influence of jews in
every country?
Item 16)
So-called nuclear reactors- The buildings and structures as they
appear to the human eye in as much as one is permitted to examine
without special clearance are real enough and cost real money if we
can pretend the money supply is really backed with anything of any
real value. Billions of dollars to build each one. I have worked
building a pair of reactors in Gentilly Quebec so that appeared real
enough at the surface at least. Many people are salaried to work in
these buildings and monitor security, supply and maintenance. All
this, of course, is to be expected if you want anyone to believe the
hoax it has to have at least the appearance of function and form. The
real sham starts in the control room. What is a control room anyways
you might ask, well, it is a representation of variables said to be
operating to achieve the potential predicted in the mathematical
models. The truth is that the control panel is an advanced simulator
running on highly specific top-secret application software developed
secretly a long time ago and refined many times since. So, the
unsuspecting employees work all day monitoring variables fed to them
by sophisticated digital processors geared to simulate a fully
functional reactor core and cooling elements. The fake reactor is
tethered to the grid and the energy from conventional sources is fed
to the brushes of the generators making them instantly motors instead
that circulate the water and perhaps also heat it for effect and
steam. The instruments reading the output from the reactor is actually
reversing the reading of the power pouring in. Who can deny that such
simulator technology was not possible at the time they started those
hoaxes?
Item 17)
The money- now there's a good motive for hoaxing these clusters of
deceit. How many people making big money in that fake industry feel
like letting it all go so the truth be known? They will fight to the
death to keep that salary and income no matter how bogus the industry
is proven to them to be. Who can deny that important obstacle to the
truth? The money stolen because of these hoax clusters is beyond
understanding.
Item 19)
Mushroom clouds do not grow out of radial airbrust explosions. The
mushroom cloud needs to be seeded from the ground. The thermodynamic
conditions caused by a circumferential airburst explosion would
superheat the air all around and send radial shock waves emanating
from the center outwards like the popular festivity fireworks and that
would negate the conditions required for a mushroom cloud to grow
normally. A mushroom cloud grows from the ground up in a predictable
circular pattern that develops and flows through a relatively cool and
stable upper air mass because the explosion was at the ground level.
Who can deny that mushroom clouds can't grow out of radial airburst
explosions?
Item 20)
The so-called nuclear subs are either fully battery operated and
recharged underwater secretly or run with Stirling Cycle engines or
more likely both. That would explain the absence of deisel fumes and
would explain the very long underwater periods. Stirling cycle engines
are perfectly suited to hoax a nuclear navy. Who can deny that?
HIROSHIMA BEFORE AND AFTER
http://atomicnewsreview.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/israel_zionist_lies_global_firetv1.jpg
BradGuth
but the truth. It's almost like kosher ETs are in charge.
~ BG
> http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_history&Numb...=1
>
> http://atomicnewsreview.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/israel_zionist_li...
BradGuth
>
> http://atomicnewsreview.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/israel_zionist_li...
Nuclear energy is real enough, though at least ten fold more birth-to-
grave (meaning all inclusive) spendy than we're being informed by
those in charge.
You need to rethink some if not most of this argument. Wishful
thinking doesn't count.
~ BG
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>Much of what we think we know simply isn't the whole truth and nothing
>but the truth. It's almost like kosher ETs are in charge.
Much of what you think you know is fuckin' hilarious to us sane people
~ BG.
--
Shill #2
But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who
are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at
Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo
the Clown.
Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
Warhol
>
> Nuclear energy is real enough, though at least ten fold more birth-to-
> grave (meaning all inclusive) spendy than we're being informed by
> those in charge.
>
> You need to rethink some if not most of this argument. Wishful
> thinking doesn't count.
>
> ~ BG
Nuclear energy is created by radiation and not by explosion...
and this Topic is still about the existence of the A-Bombs and H-
Bombs...
and let us not forget Nagasaki and Hiroshima...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_cloud
Quote:
Detonations produced high above the ground do not create mushroom
clouds.
"Hiroshima, the Top News Story That Wasn't"
by: by Humberto Marquez
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0807-01.htm
Quote:
The atomic bomb that was dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima 60
years ago, on Aug. 6, 1945, may have been the most crucial event of
the 20th century. But it was not the top news story.
That was because censorship and the manipulative media treatment of
the tragic event, managed by Washington and Tokyo, greatly muffled the
impact of the catastrophe and made the press an accomplice in the war.
Quote:
On Aug. 7, 1945, newspapers in Japan merely printed short articles
reporting that B-29 planes had dropped incendiary bombs on Hiroshima,
causing some damage.
BDK
gov....@gmail.com says...
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Much of what we think we know simply isn't the whole truth and nothing
> >but the truth. It's almost like kosher ETs are in charge.
>
>
> Much of what you think you know is fuckin' hilarious to us sane people
> ~ BG.
>
And even some who aren't sane think Wornholio's a hoot.
> --
> Shill #2
>
> But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who
> are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at
> Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo
> the Clown.
> Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
>
--
BradGuth
It can go either way, whereas too much of heavy elements packed in too
small of volume can explode (it's called critical mass). Not so much
heavy elements in not such a tight package makes heat (aka plutonium
of somewhat less than weapons grade, among many other alternatives
used for RTGs and of course nuclear reactors). Even thorium that's
relatively harmless by itself can be refined/concentrated and safely
configured/packaged for creating a great deal of heat for an extremely
long time (though no explosion possible, because realistically thorium
simply doesn't have what it takes to explode).
>
> and this Topic is still about the existence of the A-Bombs and H-
> Bombs...
>
> and let us not forget Nagasaki and Hiroshima...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_cloud
>
> Quote:
> Detonations produced high above the ground do not create mushroom
> clouds.
Those bombs were not triggered that high up, and as I said they were
essentially inefficient/dirty atomic bombs.
>
> "Hiroshima, the Top News Story That Wasn't"
>
> by: by Humberto Marquez
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0807-01.htm
>
> Quote:
> The atomic bomb that was dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima 60
> years ago, on Aug. 6, 1945, may have been the most crucial event of
> the 20th century. But it was not the top news story.
>
> That was because censorship and the manipulative media treatment of
> the tragic event, managed by Washington and Tokyo, greatly muffled the
> impact of the catastrophe and made the press an accomplice in the war.
>
> Quote:
> On Aug. 7, 1945, newspapers in Japan merely printed short articles
> reporting that B-29 planes had dropped incendiary bombs on Hiroshima,
> causing some damage.
That's pretty much what any government would have to say in order to
sustain any policy/ruse of continued support for their actions. It
was actually the secondary collateral damage from vast amounts of
fires that burned out of control. Almost everything that wasn't of
brick/stone and concrete burned to the ground, along with the local
population that had nowhere to run or even to take cover. Downwind
fallout from what nuclear/atomic fuel didn't explode was a serious
problem.
~ BG
Warhol
Critical mass is a melting process and not a atomic explosion...
The Raid On Hamburg...
On July 24, 9PM the allies bombed Hamburg with high explosive,
incendiary, phosphorous and napalm bombs. The resulting firestorm was
so powerful that buildings would have flames reaching over 20 feet
high.
‘With hurricane force, 150 mile per-hour winds were sucked into the
oxygen vacuum created by the fire, ripping trees out by their roots,
collapsing buildings, pulling children out of their mothers' arms.
Twenty square miles of the city centre burned in an inferno that would
rage for nine full days. … The temperature in the firestorm reached
1,400 degrees Fahrenheit. There was no oxygen to breathe; whatever was
flammable burst spontaneously into flame.
warning...take a deep breath and only scroll further if you got the
stomach for it.
http://judicial-inc.biz/99hamburg_fire_raid.htm
Nightcrawler
"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:555d2af3-65eb-4c8a...@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> Critical mass is a melting process and not a atomic explosion...
Wrong and right. Dang, you are only 50% stupid with that sentence.
Critical mass is an equilibrium fission reaction.
Now, when things go supercritical you might end up with, now follow
closely, a nuclear explosion. Though, things might "just" melt.
>
> The Raid On Hamburg...
Cool, dead Nazi's. See, they burn just like ragheads.
BradGuth
True, unless you cram enough critical mass together quick enough and
with more than a sufficient amount of said mass, as such isn't going
to just heat up and nicely melt.
>
> The Raid On Hamburg...
>
> On July 24, 9PM the allies bombed Hamburg with high explosive,
> incendiary, phosphorous and napalm bombs. The resulting firestorm was
> so powerful that buildings would have flames reaching over 20 feet
> high.
>
> ‘With hurricane force, 150 mile per-hour winds were sucked into the
> oxygen vacuum created by the fire, ripping trees out by their roots,
> collapsing buildings, pulling children out of their mothers' arms.
> Twenty square miles of the city centre burned in an inferno that would
> rage for nine full days. … The temperature in the firestorm reached
> 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit. There was no oxygen to breathe; whatever was
> flammable burst spontaneously into flame.
>
> warning...take a deep breath and only scroll further if you got the
> stomach for it.http://judicial-inc.biz/99hamburg_fire_raid.htm
No doubt that a nuclear bomb (if it had existed) wouldn't have caused
as many civilian deaths as did the fire bombings (9,000 tonnes worth
is a lot of fuel).
~ BG