Perverting the course of justice sweepstake

RH

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Mar 11, 2013, 9:11:21 AM3/11/13

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Predict the sentences to be handed out to Chris Huhne and Vikky Pryce.
I predict

Huhne - 18-24 months because he (1) did not plead guilty until the
last moment and (2) spent a great deal of money trying to avoid the
case coming to court

Pryce - 12-18 months because (1) she pleaded not guilty and (2) her
grounds for pleading not guilty were extremely flimsy. In her favour
she might be regarded as an unwilling party and certainly not the
instigator.
RH

BrianW

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Mar 11, 2013, 9:40:13 AM3/11/13

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I hope she gets longer than he does, on the basis you state.

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GB

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Mar 11, 2013, 9:55:47 AM3/11/13

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> I hope she gets longer than he does, on the basis you state.
>

I expect the judge will sentence her to 2 years and him to nothing, on
the basis that she volunteers to do his porridge for him.

BrianW

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Mar 11, 2013, 10:21:28 AM3/11/13

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Haha, nice thought!

Fredxx

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Mar 11, 2013, 11:12:06 AM3/11/13

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Perhaps Pryce was a bit unlucky. Police Chief, Gordon Fraser's wife got
away with it.

allan tracy

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Mar 11, 2013, 11:16:35 AM3/11/13

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>
> Huhne - 18-24 months because he (1) did not plead guilty until the
> last moment and (2) spent a great deal of money trying to avoid the
> case coming to court
>
> Pryce - 12-18 months because (1) she pleaded not guilty and (2) her
> grounds for pleading not guilty were extremely flimsy. In her favour
> she might be regarded as an unwilling party and certainly not the
> instigator.
>

I can't imagine the pair of them will be treated kindly if only for
the large amount of public money that has been wasted putting together
a case against them and the use of a spurious and outdated defence.

So my guess the minimum tariff plus three months for f**king everybody
about = 6 months.

abelard

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Mar 11, 2013, 12:10:09 PM3/11/13

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that's about my guess...and even suspended

JNugent

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Mar 11, 2013, 12:43:24 PM3/11/13

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On 11/03/2013 13:11, RH wrote:

Him: a year.

Her: 6 months.

Not announced yet.

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:03:54 PM3/11/13

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The Judge has spoken: 8 months each.

What do I win?

JNugent

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:08:02 PM3/11/13

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A share of the sentence?

Mentalguy2k8

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:12:30 PM3/11/13

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"Jon Ribbens" <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in message
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A nice new frock?

RH

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:15:21 PM3/11/13

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On Mar 11, 5:03 pm, Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:

Nothing because you did not predict anything. RH

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:19:10 PM3/11/13

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Yes I did: on the 4th February, in my post to the uk.legal thread
"Re: Barry George is not innocent enough of murder to be compensated",
with Message-ID: <slrnkgvdos.a...@snowy.squish.net> I said
"6-12 months would be my guess".

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:20:07 PM3/11/13

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You weren't too far out, do you get a share of the sentence too?

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 1:21:22 PM3/11/13

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On 2013-03-11, Mentalguy2k8 <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jon Ribbens" <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrnkjs3mr.c...@snowy.squish.net...

>> The Judge has spoken: 8 months each.
>>
>> What do I win?
>
> A nice new frock?

A kind offer, but no thankyou. You may send me some Next vouchers though.

DVH

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Mar 11, 2013, 2:57:16 PM3/11/13

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So you guessed, you didn't predict.

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 3:07:30 PM3/11/13

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I predicted, based upon my novel methodology of actually reading the
sentencing guidelines, and in due course my prediction came true.

JNugent

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Mar 11, 2013, 4:16:37 PM3/11/13

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On 11/03/2013 17:20, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2013-03-11, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2013 17:03, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>> On 2013-03-11, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> Him: a year.
>>>>
>>>> Her: 6 months.
>>>>
>>>> Not announced yet.
>>>
>>> The Judge has spoken: 8 months each.
>>>
>>> What do I win?
>>
>> A share of the sentence?
>
> You weren't too far out, do you get a share of the sentence too?

I made no enquiries about prizes.

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 11, 2013, 4:32:03 PM3/11/13

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Come now, don't be shy. You can have 2 months.

JNugent

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Mar 11, 2013, 9:39:15 PM3/11/13

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On 11/03/2013 20:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:

> On 2013-03-11, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2013 17:20, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>> On 2013-03-11, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> On 11/03/2013 17:03, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-03-11, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>>>>>> Him: a year.
>>>>>> Her: 6 months.
>>>>>> Not announced yet.
>
>>>>> The Judge has spoken: 8 months each.
>
>>>>> What do I win?
>
>>>> A share of the sentence?
>
>>> You weren't too far out, do you get a share of the sentence too?
>
>> I made no enquiries about prizes.
>
> Come now, don't be shy. You can have 2 months.

It wouldn't leave enough for you, so I'd have to decline, no matter what.

Steve O

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Mar 11, 2013, 11:45:27 PM3/11/13

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Well, maybe if Huhne tops himself they might let Vikki out.
Then again, I suspect she might like that.

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 12, 2013, 6:29:24 AM3/12/13

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It's kinda sweet that you think you can "decline" a prison sentence.

JNugent

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Mar 12, 2013, 7:53:19 AM3/12/13

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None has ever been offered to me.

For that reason, if no other, I am perfectly prepared to defer to your
obviously greater and more profound experience in these matters.

What was the food like?

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 12, 2013, 8:10:17 AM3/12/13

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On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On 12/03/2013 10:29, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2013 20:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>
>>>> Come now, don't be shy. You can have 2 months.
>>
>>> It wouldn't leave enough for you, so I'd have to decline, no matter what.
>>
>> It's kinda sweet that you think you can "decline" a prison sentence.
>
> None has ever been offered to me.

A clear lie, you were offered part of Huhne's sentence above.

JNugent

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Mar 12, 2013, 8:21:43 AM3/12/13

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On 12/03/2013 12:10, Jon Ribbens wrote:

> On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On 12/03/2013 10:29, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>> On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> On 11/03/2013 20:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>
>>>>> Come now, don't be shy. You can have 2 months.
>
>>>> It wouldn't leave enough for you, so I'd have to decline, no matter what.
>
>>> It's kinda sweet that you think you can "decline" a prison sentence.
>
>> None has ever been offered to me.
>
> A clear lie, you were offered part of Huhne's sentence above.

Only in your admittedly vivid imagination.

What *was* the food like when you were in, then?

Jon Ribbens

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Mar 12, 2013, 8:34:30 AM3/12/13

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On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On 12/03/2013 12:10, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>> On 12/03/2013 10:29, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>>> On 2013-03-12, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/03/2013 20:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Come now, don't be shy. You can have 2 months.
>>
>>>>> It wouldn't leave enough for you, so I'd have to decline, no matter what.
>>
>>>> It's kinda sweet that you think you can "decline" a prison sentence.
>>
>>> None has ever been offered to me.
>>
>> A clear lie, you were offered part of Huhne's sentence above.
>
> Only in your admittedly vivid imagination.

lol, it was *your* idea.

You can run along and play by yourself now.

JNugent

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Mar 12, 2013, 8:44:58 AM3/12/13

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You're going to stay all coy about what the food was like, are you?

R. Mark Clayton

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Mar 12, 2013, 2:37:39 PM3/12/13

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"RH" <anywh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:677959b4-aeb4-4526...@z4g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...

> Predict the sentences to be handed out to Chris Huhne and Vikky Pryce.
> I predict
>
> Huhne - 18-24 months because he (1) did not plead guilty until the
> last moment and (2) spent a great deal of money trying to avoid the
> case coming to court
>
> Pryce - 12-18 months because (1) she pleaded not guilty and (2) her
> grounds for pleading not guilty were extremely flimsy. In her favour
> she might be regarded as an unwilling party and certainly not the
> instigator.
> RH

I predicted 6 months each, which is the normal starting point for this sort
of thing. A bit low.

They both got 8 months - him I think because he put his wife up for it (and
so was more guilty), but he got 10% off for pleading guilty and her for
denying it through 2 trials. She also told a lot more lies - like the
abortion story and that she had discussed it with various ministers etc.

Longer sentences for perjury and CtPtCJ apply when the crime covered up is
more serious and / or the liar instigates the process - so Jonathon Aitken
and Lord Archer got more because they perverted the system to steal money
from the innocent.

AlanG

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Mar 12, 2013, 2:43:05 PM3/12/13

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On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 06:11:21 -0700 (PDT), RH <anywh...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>Predict the sentences to be handed out to Chris Huhne and Vikky Pryce.
>I predict
>
>Huhne - 18-24 months because he (1) did not plead guilty until the
>last moment and (2) spent a great deal of money trying to avoid the
>case coming to court
>
>Pryce - 12-18 months because (1) she pleaded not guilty and (2) her
>grounds for pleading not guilty were extremely flimsy. In her favour
>she might be regarded as an unwilling party and certainly not the
>instigator.
>RH

You've got to feel sorry for Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce.
The one minute, spending a life of lavish luxury, not really wanting
for anything, all at the tax payers expense...

...the next minute, they'll be back out of prison.

abelard

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Mar 12, 2013, 3:58:57 PM3/12/13

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:37:39 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
<nospam...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>I predicted 6 months each, which is the normal starting point for this sort
>of thing. A bit low.
>
>They both got 8 months - him I think because he put his wife up for it (and
>so was more guilty), but he got 10% off for pleading guilty and her for
>denying it through 2 trials. She also told a lot more lies - like the
>abortion story and that she had discussed it with various ministers etc.

nothing extra for the perjury which you allege then

>Longer sentences for perjury and CtPtCJ apply when the crime covered up is
>more serious and / or the liar instigates the process - so Jonathon Aitken
>and Lord Archer got more because they perverted the system to steal money
>from the innocent.

whereas they tried to stop the government stealing money and
time from them