What About Eric Petel ?
Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe
What about Eric Petel ? He was the bike ahead of the Mercedes who
stopped , moved Diana's head , noticed blood from her ear and
raced to a phone where his call that " Princess Diana had been in
an accident " was taken as a joke. He went in to a police station
and later to his father's lawyers repeating his story. The Paris
police had ignored him all of this time until recently taking his
testimony. I don't think the Paris police want a solution just an
end to the case.
--
Patricia
alrighty then!
In article <#JP4WKbW...@nih2naac.prod2.compuserve.com>, Patricia
What about Brenda Wells?? She gave testimony that she was literally
stopped from going in the tunnel and she saw 2 motorcycles and a mercedes
enter the tunnel then the crash. She has never been mentioned again.
Furthermore she can't be found! There are many inconsistancies like this
one that we will never hear of again!!!!
Laura
Patricia Davidson Wille Forsythe
What about Brenda Wells?? She gave testimony that she was
literally
stopped from going in the tunnel and she saw 2 motorcycles and a
mercedes
enter the tunnel then the crash. She has never been mentioned
again.
Furthermore she can't be found! There are many inconsistancies
like this
one that we will never hear of again!!!!
Laura
Why can't we make the difference. There are many of us
who are actively mystified by the problems just within the story
of the Paris police department announcements which conflict one
another. If this was a simple crash there would have been no need
to hide witnesses , ignore witnesses and like Eric Petel make
accusations against him trying to undercut his statements. What is
the deal and what are they hiding ? Do they know which was the
mystery car ? Do they know if MI5 was in Paris ? Do they know if
someone was out for Dodi , perhaps to scare him for an unknown
reason such as money ? Do they know why the right front tire
exploded leaving a near perfect back end. Do they know why this
particular car did not protect those inside ? Airbags tampered ?
--
Patricia
alrighty then!
In article <eA$shwqW9...@nih2naab.prod2.compuserve.com>, Patricia
Davidson Wille Forsythe <10214...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
These are the questions that haunt me everytime I think of this whole
accident thing. Banana, what do you think of what Patricia and I have
posted? Why are the French Investigators so ignorant or why do they cover
up certain things?? This is precisely why Mohammed al Fayed isn't sleeping
at night. It's frustrating!
Laura
alrighty then!
I'll bet you that 99.999999999999% of the evidence is going to back up the
drunk driver theory, how Henri Paul had a history of drinking... It
probably won't mention all the crap we haven't been able to get answers
to. How do you get a copy of the dossier (report) after the verdict has
been given? Is it public record at that point? Also, will it be on the
internet??
Laura
Oh yes, where are the damn crash photos??? Ha
Kevin Warren
I want to stress one thing: we will know the truth. There's no way that the
French coverup will succeed. The French case, such that it is, is so shot
full of holes that know one who has kept abreast of events surrounding the
accident takes it seriously. The key is that the French themselves know damn
well they don't have a leg to stand on. That's why they are dragging this
investigation out. They are hoping against hope we will all forget about
Diana and go about our business. It won't work. No way could the French
have imagined when they signed on to Diana's murder there would be a response
like this. No doubt they now curse they day they ever got involved.
That's why you shouldn't get discouraged. It's because of newsgroups like
this that the issue of Diana's murder has been kept alive. If we keep the
pressure on, the French will crack, and the truth will come out.
On a separate issue, someone asked about the British presence in Paris that
fateful day. Here is what we know so far. Diana and Dodi were being
surveilled by a seven man surveillance team. The team was believed to be
SAS. I have posted pictures of some of these men on my web site, taken from a
Ritz security camera. Surveillance photos showed the following:
1. Two men were in the Place Vendome, out in front of the Ritz, up until the
time Diana and Dodi left. They were keeping a close eye on Di and Dodi's
movements.
2. Two other men were walking constantly in and out of the Ritz.
3. Two more men were in the bar of the Ritz, scrutinizing hotel security.
4. A seventh, crucial man was stationed at the rear of the hotel. This man
made a cellular phone call just after Diana and Dodi left. It is believed he
may have given the crucial "GO" signal that set the murder plot in motion.
For those of you who have read Death of a Princess, all you need to do is
connect the dots. You have the seven man, British SAS surveillance team
monitoring Di and Dodi's every move. We also know, as reported by The People
newspaper, that GCHQ was monitoring Dodi's cell phone communications. This
answers the crucial question as to how British Intelligence knew Dodi and Di
would be taking the backup car through the back exit.
Once the couple exits to the Merc, the spotter out back, seeing that Di and
Dodi are alone with no backup car, gives the "GO" signal that puts the
assassination plot in motion. It's almost going to be too easy. British
Intelligence has maybe two or three men on motorcycles, two more in the Fiat,
which even the French have admitted was not only a fast Turbo model, but was
also weighed down, and then two more men in a follow up car, believed to be a
white Mercedes, which the Ritz has photos of, and which attorney Gary Hunter
desribes fleeing the accident scene in a sinister manner. Sancton and Macleod
speculate the white Merc would be precisely the kind of car one would need as
a backup car, that is a big, powerful car that could be used to extract the
hit team in case something went wrong.
As I have said, with Di and Dodi unprotected, engineering the crash is almost
too easy and need not be gone into detail here. After the crash is
accomplished, the "powerful bike" (see Death of a Princess), the Fiat, and the
white Merc flee the scene. The Fiat and white Merc pass attorney Hunter, who
estimates there speed at a suicidal 100 mph. And the route they take?
According to Death of a Princess, they are headed right in the direction of
none other than - the British Embassy. They race onto the grounds of the
embassy into its massive garage, and they are home free. No need to even
worry about junking the cars. The embassy, being foreign territory, cannot be
searched by the French police. It's a text book operation.
Kevin Warren
http://www.anaserve.com/~wethepeople/diforum.htm
alrighty then!
Here's the hard question. Why would the Intelligence Service choose a car
crash vs. airplane crash or any other method. How could these men know
that a car crash would in fact kill them all?
Now you know that I believe they were assassinated but this question is
always asked by my busband and other skepticals that don't but this.
Maybe someone that knows the Britis Intelligence could explain this to me.
Thanks,
Laura
alan hope
banana <banana@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<banana-1004...@borve.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <6gl753$9cv$1...@gte1.gte.net>, hu...@gte.net (alrighty then!)
wrote:
>
> > Here's the hard question. Why would the Intelligence Service choose a
car
> > crash vs. airplane crash or any other method.
>
> Dunno. Why do it in France rather than Britain? Need for urgent action...
> Cause greater confusion - wider range of 'theories'?? Need for urgent
> action could also explain car crash rather than air crash.
All well and good. The idea, in particular, that an "accident" in France
would give rise to a more confusing range of theories is a valid one, and
has been borne out, I think, by postings in this ng. Too many people here
have not the first idea of the French system of justice, and ignorance, of
course, leads to suspicion.
Remember -
> Diana and Dodi knew (IMO) that assassins were after them - they must have
> taken all sorts of precautions, almost certainly including trying to
> misdirect their enemies with regard to their intentions and planned
> destinations.
Here you lose me. What evidence that they knew assassins were after them?
Taken precautions like what? Dining at the Ritz in Paris? Then taking to
the streets in a car? While being tailed by press and paparazzi, any one of
whom could be a killer?
Does this sound like the behaviour of people in fear of their lives?
Just one possibility: she might have been about to nip round
> the mosque and convert at any time. I get the feeling that it had to be
> done quickly quickly quickly, from the moment they landed at the
airfield.
I rather think Moslems might resent your implication that a conversion to
Islam is something you can pick up at a night shop - after dinner, yet -
along with twenty fags and a bottle of Dubonnet. I'm quite sure there are
procedures to be followed in such cases, and I expect they're lengthy and
intricate. Not only that, it's more than likely the clergy call the shots,
and not the postulant, no matter who she might be, or be related to.
> Also, setting up an air crash is not necessarily simpler than setting up
a
> car crash (especially if you want it to look like an accident).
>
> > How could these men know
> > that a car crash would in fact kill them all?
>
> I don't think the crash did kill them all.
>
> > Maybe someone that knows the Britis Intelligence could explain this to
me.
>
> :-) !
>
> --
> b.anana
>
Maybe you should call them up and ask them? (heavy sarcasm) Sorry, but it
really is a naive remark. Anyone who knows British Intelligence well
enough is not likely to explain anything, don't you think?
AH
Kevin Warren
The car crash was simply the best method available at that particular point in
time. I firmly believe that if they had used a backup car, no way would
M15/M16 have risked putting the plot in motion on Aug 31, even if they had
taken the same route. A backup car with armed security personnel in tow would
have meant witnesses, immediate medical attention for Di and Dodi, and who
knows, if things went badly, perhaps even an armed response. There are two
keys to this case. One, the fact that GCHQ was monitoring Dodi's cell phone
communications. This meant that when Dodi decided on the change of plans to
sneak out the back entrance without a backup car, British Intelligence knew
right away. This gave them a chance to put people in place,etc. Two, once
they knew Di and Dodi would be leaving through the back, they placed the
spotter out back. It was he that made the crucial cell phone call as Di and
Dodi were leaving. He probably confirmed to the rest of the team that there
was no backup car. With no backup car, this was the "window of opportunity"
they had been looking for.
I don't think they knew they would kill them in Paris. They probably didn't
know when it would happen. They were simply looking for the best
opportunity. It came in Paris on that fateful night. Now, another thing,
which I have not seen mentioned on this ng: I DO NOT BELIEVE DODI MADE THE
CRUCIAL DECISION TO LEAVE OUT THE BACK ENTRANCE. Here is what I think
happen: I believe one of Paul's security people, probably a British
Intelligence mole on the Fayed security team, approached Paul and said to the
effect, "Hey, look boss, with all these paparazzi, you and Princess Di will
never get any peace tonight. Look, we'll use the main car as a decoy, you can
take a another car out the back exit, and you and Diana can have the rest of
the night for yourselves. How about it, boss?" Dodi thinks it over, knowing
he is going to propose and desperate for some time alone with Diana, and
agrees. It's been repeated over and over again that Dodi made the decision on
the last second change of cars. But where is the evidence of it? I don't
believe the idea originated with him. I believe it originated somewhere else,
as I have said.
One last thing. I believe that if they couldn't kill Diana in Paris, then a
bomb aboard the aircraft on Diana's flight home would have been a distinct
possibility. The palace was desperate. They knew Diana was flying back to
Britain to be with her boys to announce her impending engagement to Dodi. So
to answer your question, it was simply a matter of opportunity. The order
from the Queen was not,"Kill Diana in a car crash." But rather, "We cannot
allow Diana to marry this man." Prince Phillip said as much in the now
infamous article of the Sunday Times, Aug. 31. The British Intelligence
services were left with choosing the best way to accomplish this.
alrighty then! wrote:
> Here's the hard question. Why would the Intelligence Service choose a car
> crash vs. airplane crash or any other method. How could these men know
> that a car crash would in fact kill them all?
> Now you know that I believe they were assassinated but this question is
> always asked by my busband and other skepticals that don't but this.
> Maybe someone that knows the Britis Intelligence could explain this to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
Kevin Warren
Just a minor correction. I noticed I used "Paul" twice in the second paragraph
when of course I meant Dodi. My apologies.
Kevin Warren
http://www.anaserve.com/~wethepeople/diforum.htm
Kevin Warren wrote:
> The car crash was simply the best method available at that particular point in
> time...