Kennedy burial at sea
Lilac
ashes are gonna be spread out over the sea. I wish they would
give the public a chance to say good by also. There alot of
people who really care. I don't think any of this has really
been confirmed yet though.
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:epvl3.120$D52....@news.mcmail.com...
| Hi Lisa.,
| I am still up, Larry king was very good, he had some very
interesting people
| on. Jacky Kennedy's personal assistant secretary, for many
years had some
| lovely stories to tell. I must admit, I was a little perturbed
by the burial
| at sea for the same reason. They say its because it will be
private, and the
| press wont be able to go there, I think its a little late for
that, and for
| a family that has spent its whole life facing publicity, it
seems,......
| cant think of a word to describe. But, I think that if certain
individuals
| can pull up artefacts from the Titanic, I wouldn't put it past
some sicko to
| pull them up from the bottom. Didn't someone try to dig up
Elvis one time. I
| suppose we cannot criticise we are not in their shoes, but I am
no stranger
| to grief and some rash decisions are made when the heart is
heavy, decisions
| that on reflection could have been better handled.
| I think he should be laid to rest with his beloved parents, but
that's just
| a personal opinion, wherever he goes, he's already gone, so I
don't think it
| will much matter, only to the people he has left behind.
| Goodbye Jon Jon may you now, truly have found peace.
| Geths
| James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
| news:01bed3e6$e6cebd80$56bb4e0c@default...
| > Geths:
| >
| > I cannot explain it, but I never met John and I feel like
I've known him
| > all my life. I still call him John-John. Some things never
change. The
| > thought of the three of them forever resting at the bottom of
the ocean
| > just upsets me so. I know I have no business saying that,
but it's the
| > truth. In this day and age, there are sick people who might
try to "rob
| > the grave" if you will. And for anyone who thinks thats not
so, and that
| > no one would be that morbid, just remember the cover of one
of the
| tabloids
| > (either Globe or Inquirer) when John Lennon was killed. Some
sickie broke
| > into the morgue, pulled the draw open containing John
Lennon's body and
| > took a picture.
| >
| > I am so glad Jackie isn't here to see this. And poor
Caroline. The whole
| > thing is so tragic. My heart goes out to both families.
| > --
| > Lisa
| >
| > Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in article
| > <yBul3.115$D52....@news.mcmail.com>...
| > > Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on,
they have
| > > recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical
officer ok's, a
| > > burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said
9am Eastern
| > time.
| > > geths
| > >
| > >
| > >
|
|
Lilac
cremated and their ashes spread out over the sea. Don't know
about the sisters yet though. Wish they would be out an
official statement. I also wish they would let the public see
the memorial, so we could have a chance to say good bye also.
Gary Stone
James and Lisa Bauer
I cannot explain it, but I never met John and I feel like I've known him
all my life. I still call him John-John. Some things never change. The
thought of the three of them forever resting at the bottom of the ocean
just upsets me so. I know I have no business saying that, but it's the
truth. In this day and age, there are sick people who might try to "rob
the grave" if you will. And for anyone who thinks thats not so, and that
no one would be that morbid, just remember the cover of one of the tabloids
(either Globe or Inquirer) when John Lennon was killed. Some sickie broke
into the morgue, pulled the draw open containing John Lennon's body and
took a picture.
I am so glad Jackie isn't here to see this. And poor Caroline. The whole
thing is so tragic. My heart goes out to both families.
--
Lisa
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<yBul3.115$D52....@news.mcmail.com>...
Gary Stone
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message news:...
> Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer ok's, a
> burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am Eastern
time.
> geths
>
wife and sister in law, will be buried with him, if their parents agree to
this, which they had not, at this time, 3am GMT.
Geths
Gary Stone
I am still up, Larry king was very good, he had some very interesting people
on. Jacky Kennedy's personal assistant secretary, for many years had some
lovely stories to tell. I must admit, I was a little perturbed by the burial
at sea for the same reason. They say its because it will be private, and the
press wont be able to go there, I think its a little late for that, and for
a family that has spent its whole life facing publicity, it seems,......
cant think of a word to describe. But, I think that if certain individuals
can pull up artefacts from the Titanic, I wouldn't put it past some sicko to
pull them up from the bottom. Didn't someone try to dig up Elvis one time. I
suppose we cannot criticise we are not in their shoes, but I am no stranger
to grief and some rash decisions are made when the heart is heavy, decisions
that on reflection could have been better handled.
I think he should be laid to rest with his beloved parents, but that's just
a personal opinion, wherever he goes, he's already gone, so I don't think it
will much matter, only to the people he has left behind.
Goodbye Jon Jon may you now, truly have found peace.
Geths
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed3e6$e6cebd80$56bb4e0c@default...
>
> I cannot explain it, but I never met John and I feel like I've known him
> all my life. I still call him John-John. Some things never change. The
> thought of the three of them forever resting at the bottom of the ocean
> just upsets me so. I know I have no business saying that, but it's the
> truth. In this day and age, there are sick people who might try to "rob
> the grave" if you will. And for anyone who thinks thats not so, and that
> no one would be that morbid, just remember the cover of one of the
tabloids
> (either Globe or Inquirer) when John Lennon was killed. Some sickie broke
> into the morgue, pulled the draw open containing John Lennon's body and
> took a picture.
>
> I am so glad Jackie isn't here to see this. And poor Caroline. The whole
> thing is so tragic. My heart goes out to both families.
> --
> Lisa
>
> <yBul3.115$D52....@news.mcmail.com>...
Andrew/
> Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer ok's, a
> burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am Eastern time.
> geths
Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money to find the latest stiffs in
the long running Dead Kennedys Soap Opera and as soon as they've
recovered them what do they do? They dump them back in the sea.
What a waste of time.
Andrew/
James and Lisa Bauer
By now, we all have heard that they have been cremated, and their ashes
scattered over the seas. It seems that John requested this a long time
ago, that when he died, he wished to be buried at sea. I was confused
about the cremation part. As someone who has had a Roman Catholic
upbringing, I was always told cremation was a no-no. It apparently, in
recent years, has become acceptable. It still bothers me, although I can
understand why they did it. We all know of the possibilities of "grave
digging". And every day I feel like I will be reminded of his death, not
only because of the news coverage, but the town I live in (Livingston) is
about a 15 minute drive from the Caldwell Airport from where he left. I
just found out that John may have been, at some point, flying over my
home, like a lot of that airports traffic does, on a daily basis and I
never knew it. I have tower lines in my backyard, and from what I am told,
the planes sometimes use the towers as a reference point, so daily there
are airplanes over my back yard. I know that means nothing, but I find it
disturbing to know that while I was watching television on Friday evening
in my family room, JFK Jr. was possibly flying over my home on his way to
meet his maker.
--
Lisa
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<epvl3.120$D52....@news.mcmail.com>...
<snip>
James and Lisa Bauer
*Whose* money? Surely not YOURS.
<snip>
> What a waste of time.
You poor little man. Was it a waste of YOUR time? Then maybe you should
have gone fishing. And seeing that you refer to the Kennedys as a "long
running .. soap opera", why don't you do what most people do when something
is on television or radio they don't like. Change the channel or turn it
off?!? We in America have a long standing respect for the Kennedy's.
While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who are
the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what your
party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
country. And to belittle what the Coast Guard, NTSB, Massachusetts Police,
United States Navy and every day people did to help recover John, Carolyn
and Lauren is insensitive, demeaning, degrading and reeks of jealousy.
Terienne
Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:379759F0...@altairiv.demon.co.uk...
What a waste of time.
Andrew/
Andrew/
> Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> > Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money
>
> *Whose* money? Surely not YOURS.
Certainly not.
> > What a waste of time.
>
> You poor little man. Was it a waste of YOUR time?
No. It gave me a laugh - not as funny as Diana's demise, but it's
raised a few smiles.
> why don't you do what most people do when something is on television or radio
> they don't like. Change the channel or turn it off?!? We in America
You don't have to tell me that you're an amerikan. Only a yank would
make the mindless, ethnocentric assumption that everyone gets their
news from the tee-vee. FYI, oh presumptious one, I neither have nor
want a television set (or rah-dio) and if I did I wouldn't be receiving
any of that idiotic, amerikan pap on it. I've got a brain.
> While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
At least one of those being an atrociously inaccurate altimeter reading.
> And to belittle what the Coast Guard, NTSB, Massachusetts Police,
> United States Navy
Rather than being the heroic, duty devoted, patriotic supermen that
your media tell you, those same *wonderful* people have acquired
an abysmal litany of human rights abuses in the name of The Drug
War - secret genocide the only purpose of which is to protect US
narcotics interests. They should be tried as the war criminals they
are. Heroes. I wouldn't spit on your heroes if they were on fire.
> insensitive, demeaning, degrading and reeks of jealousy.
They can't drive, they can't fly, and even when they sit in the passanger
seat they still get shot in the head. Who would be jealous of a fucked up
family of jerks like the Kennedys?
Andrew/
John W Aspden
just love seeing the US giving journalistic ressucitation to a dead Kennedy story
?
johnnie@
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Andrew/ wrote:
> Gary Stone wrote:
>
> > Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> > recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer ok's, a
> > burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am Eastern time.
> > geths
>
> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money to find the latest stiffs in
> the long running Dead Kennedys Soap Opera and as soon as they've
> recovered them what do they do? They dump them back in the sea.
>
> What a waste of time.
>
> Andrew/
James and Lisa Bauer
>I've got a brain.
Too bad the weight of you body is smothering it in the seat of your pants.
I see this for what it really is now. You are the ultimate product of
being inbred. Like I stated, you poor little man.
More on your childish level, there is a song that Kermit the Frog sings on
Sesame Street called "It ain't easy being Green". I suggest you learn the
words and call it your theme song.
--
Lisa
Wall
(MDT+6) From: jimmya...@worldnet.att.net (James and Lisa Bauer)
Re: Gone Fishing...
have gone fishing. And seeing that you refer to the Kennedys as a "long
something is on television or radio they don't like. Change the channel
Kennedy's. While some of them have made really bad decisions in their
personal lives, they are on the whole people who seriously put this
country first, who are the ultimate philanthropists both in time and
money and no matter what your party line, no one can take away their
Guard, NTSB, Massachusetts Police, United States Navy and every day
people did to help recover John, Carolyn and Lauren is insensitive,
demeaning, degrading and reeks of jealousy. >>>>
I completely agree. I can't believe the few complaints I've heard from
people who actually resent efforts made to find the remains of these
tragically killed people.
Andrew/
> More on your childish level, there is a song that Kermit the Frog sings on
> Sesame Street called "It ain't easy being Green".
I'm being told I'm childish by somebody who quotes Kermit the Frog.
Andrew/
Alvin H. White
As a kid I use to watch the movies that oft had some fencing.
It seems that about here somebody would say, "touché" ?
Not a bad touch for a pleasant morning, that has turned into
afternoon without my notice.
>Andrew/
>
I've been referring to web surfing as disk fishing, which takes
a little understanding of the daily luck in what is posted on
the likes of alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.
<a href="http://members.home.com/godsbrain">G.O.D.S.B.R.A.I.N.</a>
<br>
Shaun
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
>> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money
>
>*Whose* money? Surely not YOURS.
><snip>
>> What a waste of time.
>
>You poor little man. Was it a waste of YOUR time? Then maybe you should
>have gone fishing. And seeing that you refer to the Kennedys as a "long
>running .. soap opera", why don't you do what most people do when something
>is on television or radio they don't like. Change the channel or turn it
>off?!? We in America have a long standing respect for the Kennedy's.
>While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
>they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who are
>the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what your
>party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
>country. And to belittle what the Coast Guard, NTSB, Massachusetts Police,
>United States Navy and every day people did to help recover John, Carolyn
>and Lauren is insensitive, demeaning, degrading and reeks of jealousy.
>
How dare anyone criticize the Kennedy family ?
Hey they may be have been involved in helping the nazis, bootlegging,
gun running, adultery,vote rigging, drunk driving, helping the Mafia
,blackmail, corruption,date rapes, suppressing evidence, war
mongering, and state murder, but didn't Jackie look awfully pretty ?
Have some respect for those who are now suffering - like the owners of
John F Kennedy International Airport
James and Lisa Bauer
since I have two of my own. If you're free, maybe you'd like to join our
next playgroup? Oh, and if you want to go swimming, please make sure
you're wearing a diaper that doesn't leak. Like Huggies Swimmies. Or
maybe Depends. Unless of course you are used to wading waist deep in your
own excrement.
--
Lisa
Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<37978AB4...@altairiv.demon.co.uk>...
> James and Lisa Bauer wrote:
>
> > More on your childish level, there is a song that Kermit the Frog sings
on
> > Sesame Street called "It ain't easy being Green".
>
> I'm being told I'm childish by somebody who quotes Kermit the Frog.
>
> Andrew/
>
>
>
James and Lisa Bauer
> How dare anyone criticize the Kennedy family ?
<snip>
If you took the time to read the original post, you'd note that criticizing
the Kennedy's wasn't the issue. Criticizing the American people and the
way this search and recovery of all three people was handled was.
James and Lisa Bauer
<snip>
Geths:
Thanks. I know to some people this is ludicrous, but to a lot of
Americans, it is a very common, very real sense of sadness.
Lisa
Gary Stone
I have pondered your words and this whole burial at sea all day. All
yesterdays posts have disappeared but I believe you said something about not
being able to say goodbye, and I can relate to that, and I am sorry that
you, and the people who feel the same way as you were not able to say their
goodbye's to a man who they may not have known personally, but loved from
afar, not only for what he was, but for what he represented. On Larry King
live someone likened him to Princess Diana in so much as that to a great
deal of people he was the Prince of America, a shining light, a hope, a
dream, another Camelot maybe, but more than anything, in truth, he was a
really nice man, and a credit to his mothers upbringing and a credit to the
memory of his father.
I went to London the day before Princess Diana's funeral, then headed
strait for Kensington palace and laid 4 long stemmed white roses, one from
myself and one from each of my daughters. I then wandered about talking to
people, looking at all the tributes, it was amazing and so full of love and
shared grief. I saw her leave in the flag draped coffin to go to Kensington
palace for her final night there, then, I went back to my daughter in laws
flat to prepare for the next day.
I followed her from KP to Buckingham palace and could go no further so I
found a spot and stood there to watch. The royal family left and the union
Jack was put at half mast, everyone cheered and clapped and cried, they had
backed down, and saluted her, it was a small victory for the people, but a
significant one. After the service, she came back travelling slowly up the
road and people were all throwing flowers in her path and clapping, I
climbed the highest rail I could find and as she passed I shouted "Goodbye
my little Princess, God bless you", and then she was gone. I will always
have that to fall back on, and I find it very special.
Watching the war ship go off with the Kennedy's on board to return those
three young people back to the sea that took them, I found very hard to
understand, I know that John Kennedy wanted it that way, but could he ever
have conceived of the horror that those waters would hold for him in his
final moments on this earth, and would it have changed his mind, I don't
know. Its over now, and life goes on. I see his handsome smiling face in the
clips on the news, as I have seen Diana's for the last nearly two years now,
and life does seem so unfathomable, this is not taking anything away from
all the ordinary good people who die every day without recognition, we
aren't stupid people we know about them, not by name or deed, and we thank
them all from afar.
But this is not about them. I hope one day Lisa you can say your goodbye, in
your own way, and I hope I am right there beside you.
Gethryn
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed46c$9c3db9c0$48694e0c@default...
> <snip>
James and Lisa Bauer
some real issues about the American people. So there is more to this than
the just the search and recovery of JFK Jr.
--
Lisa
Jeffrey Harris
>
> Gary Stone wrote:
>
> > Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> > recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer ok's, a
> > burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am Eastern time.
> > geths
>
> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money to find the latest stiffs in
> the long running Dead Kennedys Soap Opera
Surely it is a comedy.
Mark Shippey
Jeffrey Harris <j.ha...@uws.edu.au> wrote:
Well, it is sad that the three people died. But.....
The media keeps saying the Kennedy family wants privacy. How
many people who want privacy would ask for a giant battleship to
be diverted to Cape Cod to carry the ashes out to sea? We're not
talking sailboat here, we're talking the kind of battle cruiser
that carrys cruise missles, a small floating city. Not exactly
a private ceremony.
Jeffrey Harris
>
> Jeffrey Harris <j.ha...@uws.edu.au> wrote:
> : Andrew/ wrote:
> :>
> :> Gary Stone wrote:
> :>
> :> > Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> :> > recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer ok's, a
> :> > burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am Eastern time.
> :> > geths
> :>
> :> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money to find the latest stiffs in
> :> the long running Dead Kennedys Soap Opera
>
> : Surely it is a comedy.
>
> Well, it is sad that the three people died.
American people...
Andrew/
So bomb our country then - that's what you normally do when
anyone else claims the right to free speech isn't it?
Andrew/
Andrew/
> > Well, it is sad that the three people died.
>
> American people...
Oxymoron.
Andrew/
Mark Shippey
Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: Jeffrey Harris wrote:
: Oxymoron.
Stooopid EuroPeon.
You can't even spell moron right.
rogermi...@my-deja.com
"James and Lisa Bauer" <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Geths:
>
> I cannot explain it, but I never met John and I feel like I've known
him
> all my life. I still call him John-John. Some things never change.
The
> thought of the three of them forever resting at the bottom of the
ocean
> just upsets me so. I know I have no business saying that, but it's
the
> truth. In this day and age, there are sick people who might try to
"rob
> the grave" if you will. And for anyone who thinks thats not so, and
that
> no one would be that morbid, just remember the cover of one of the
tabloids
> (either Globe or Inquirer) when John Lennon was killed. Some sickie
broke
> into the morgue, pulled the draw open containing John Lennon's body
and
> took a picture.
>
> I am so glad Jackie isn't here to see this. And poor Caroline. The
whole
> thing is so tragic. My heart goes out to both families.
> > Couldnt sleep, so turned on CNN news. Larry King live on, they have
> > recovered all bodies now and there will be, if medical officer
ok's, a
> > burial at sea tomorrow for all three. I believe they said 9am
Eastern
> time.
> > geths
> >
> >
by political vultures who were imterested in absolutely nothing
beyond advancing the agenda of the vast, right wing conspiracy.
Look at George, a wonderful, playful and serious magazine that
attracted young people. Now look at the last issue of George, an
absolute caricature that features vultures like Anne Coulter
posing with a provacative mini skirt and a .357 as if she is
some kind of a secret agent, and Alphons D'amato making these
stupid faces. The magazine went from serious and playful, to an
absolute caricature. I don't think that Jr. wrote a single word
in the last issue, the guy was obviously sick of asomething
-he was seeking funding in Canada. Seeking independence.
Instead...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
rogermi...@my-deja.com
"Lilac" <lil...@mail.usa.com> wrote:
> The news stations are saying their gonna be cremated and their
> ashes are gonna be spread out over the sea. I wish they would
> give the public a chance to say good by also. There alot of
> people who really care. I don't think any of this has really
> been confirmed yet though.
>
> Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> news:epvl3.120$D52....@news.mcmail.com...
> message
> | news:01bed3e6$e6cebd80$56bb4e0c@default...
James and Lisa Bauer
Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<3797FFB4...@altairiv.demon.co.uk>...
> So bomb our country then - that's what you normally do when
> anyone else claims the right to free speech isn't it?
>
> Andrew/
And with each post, your ignorance becomes more and more evident. You're
dismissed.
--
Lisa
Steve Reed
<and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> writes
>James and Lisa Bauer wrote:
>
>>
>
>
>> > What a waste of time.
>>
>> You poor little man. Was it a waste of YOUR time?
>
>raised a few smiles.
>
>family of jerks like the Kennedys?
>
>Andrew/
>
forget that we are all conditioned by our position in society -
Kennedys, Bauers, you, me, everyone - and should be judged in our own
contexts, not in each others'.
As with the Paris Crash, the importance of the steep dive off Martha's
Vineyard does not lie in our personal loss (even if we do feel it
deeply) but in the implications of a situation where the largely hidden
political forces, which are shaping our world, may have intervened in
such a way as to betray their presence and purpose. If it becomes
evident that the pilot had a stroke, or a heart-attack, or that the
aircraft developed some fatal fault, prior to that extraordinary plunge
off the radar screen, then we will have to assume that we know what
happened.
As things stand, we do not know; and the unseemly haste, with which the
bodies were disposed of, bodes ill concerning the authorities' intention
that we should know. Unless some dramatic change, in the way this
investigation appears to be being conducted, occurs soon, the plane-
crash off Martha's Vineyard is going to become another episode in the
recurring nightmare of the American subconscious - the nightmare of the
traitor in our midst. This nightmare can only be sustained for so long
before it bursts into consciousness as an insane delusion. We must look
at the facts NOW!
--
Steve Reed
Steve Reed
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes
>Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
>> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money
>
>*Whose* money? Surely not YOURS.
Was taxpayers' money not spent?
>> What a waste of time.
>
If autopsies were not carried out, yes! How else can it be determined
whether the steep dive was due to a heart-attack or not?
> We in America have a long standing respect for the Kennedy's.
Enough to insist on a satisfactory explanation for the steep dive and
for the precipitous disposal of the bodies?
--
Steve Reed
Steve Reed
n.ssspppaaammm.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>On 22 Jul 1999 18:22:55 GMT, "James and Lisa Bauer"
><jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
>>> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money
>>
>
>gun running, adultery,vote rigging, drunk driving, helping the Mafia
>,blackmail, corruption,date rapes, suppressing evidence, war
>mongering, and state murder, but didn't Jackie look awfully pretty ?
>
involved in such things. Not that I don't share your concern: the
reason the rich are inevitably involved in such things is that, in a
society where hunger for money is paramount, their huge financial
holdings are beyond their control - politically, socially and morally -
and they are as much the victims of their wealth as most people are the
victims of poverty. The mutually reinforcing roles of the oppressor and
the oppressed entrap the oppressor and the oppressed alike. It's called
the status quo - and what would you put in its place? Chaos? It could
be worse! Much worse!
Gradual improvement, on the basis of individual cases on their own
merits, is the only process by which improvement has ever been achieved;
but only constant effort prevents such slow progress from dwindling to
nothing. The effort required in this case, as always, should be
directed towards discovering the facts of the case - not towards
apportioning blame!
So what are the facts of the case? The Kennedys are a Catholic family
which has produced one President of the US and several Senators and
Congressmen - a larger number of influential people, perhaps, than any
other family in the country. No-one has ever called them "extremists",
"religious bigots" or even "monsters of debauchery", and yet JFK and RFK
were both assassinated in complex international plots (see "Final
Judgement" by M.C.Piper, N...@TeamIinfinity.com) and a defamatory
campaign of sniping from cover has been carried on against them and is
being carried on against them, to this day.
Now, arguably the most prominent member of this clan has died in
circumstances which have not yet been satisfactorily explained. As in
the case (just possibly) of the death of Princess Diana, a satisfactory
explanation may yet be forthcoming, but, if it is not, then we shall
have to assume that the vicious game of power politics has been played
out yet again under our very noses, with consequences at which we can
only guess.
As in the case of the Paris Crash, this could be an opportunity to
insert democratic discernment into that game. If so, then it should not
be allowed to slip away.
--
Steve Reed
hector
amongst Americunts, after all if you've ever seen sesame street or kermit
the frog you'll know what i mean.
no wonder sane americunt kids grow up wanting to shoot and kill their
parents and fellow childhood playmates after watching all this mindless
drivel.
but worse than this is their efforts and the efforts of fellow minded
travellers here in the united kuntdom to impose this junk TV on our kids.
hell i don't want our kids growing up into dysfunctional mind units like the
americunts.
the americunts have failed their kids and now want to fail ours.
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed53b$2493b800$40684e0c@default...
:
:
: Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
: <3797FFB4...@altairiv.demon.co.uk>...
:
James and Lisa Bauer
In answer to your questions, yes taxpayers money *was* spent. My point was
"Andrew" is not a taxpayer. I am. Most Americans, while they feel the
coverage was too extensive, do not feel that the means used to recover the
bodies was not.
As per a preliminary press report on MSNBC this morning, nothing out of the
ordinary was found in any of the autopsies, no signs of stroke, heart
attack, etc. It also reported that the Kennedy family requested that no
autopsy photographs be taken. It was reported that the three died from,
and please don't quote me I do not have anything in print in front of me,
something along the lines of *traumatic impact* and that all three were
killed instantly. I believe the reason for the cremation coming so quickly
on the heels of the bodies being discovered was to keep anyone from trying
to get snap shots of the three.
I am satisfied that nothing here seems suspicious.
--
Lisa
Steve Reed <asr...@lastings.softnet.co.uk> wrote in article
<m$0wBDAOa...@lastings.softnet.co.uk>...
> In article <01bed470$56b0b700$48694e0c@default>, James and Lisa Bauer
> <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes
> >Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> >> Wonderful isn't it? They spend all that money
> >
James and Lisa Bauer
language, you consider yourself intelligent and of course, functional.
Go on, show us more of what your shrink already knows.
--
Lisa
hector <br...@freeserve.co.uk> wrote in article <7naohb$f0p$1...@gxsn.com>...
James and Lisa Bauer
Point well taken, except for the fact that if they weren't on a ship of
that stature, do you really think they would have been able to keep the
press away? Let's say they take the families out on their sailboats to
scatter the ashes. Who keeps the planes from overhead? Who keeps the
paparazzi from getting on a rental boat and taking pictures? Who enforces
it for those who do not abide by the rules? I'll tell you who. The men
behind the guns on that battleship. I know it seems unjust to some, but
this family has served our country for 40 some odd years.
IMO, what they did for John, Carolyn and Lauren was justified. Especially
that I feel we owe JFK Jr. (although he never acted like anyone owed him
anything). It was the least we could do as a country.
--
Lisa
Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote in article
<7n8dhe$p9i$1...@news.IAEhv.nl>...
<snip>
Mark Shippey
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: Mark:
: Point well taken, except for the fact that if they weren't on a ship of
: that stature, do you really think they would have been able to keep the
: press away? Let's say they take the families out on their sailboats to
: scatter the ashes. Who keeps the planes from overhead? Who keeps the
: paparazzi from getting on a rental boat and taking pictures? Who enforces
: it for those who do not abide by the rules? I'll tell you who. The men
: behind the guns on that battleship. I know it seems unjust to some, but
: this family has served our country for 40 some odd years.
: IMO, what they did for John, Carolyn and Lauren was justified. Especially
: that I feel we owe JFK Jr. (although he never acted like anyone owed him
: anything). It was the least we could do as a country.
Hmmm. Why not just keep the ashes like others do, and take care
of this all later in private somehow? Heck, they keep moaning about
wanting to be private and how hard it is to be a Kennedy, and then
they go out to sea on a battleship and create the biggest spectacle
in American funeral history. Sounds like people who like the public
eye to me. And did you see Clinton today, releasing all those photos
of HIMSELF with John Jr. at the White House? Man, looks like these
politicians just can't button up the ego for a second, much less
their pants.
So, you are are saying that one good reason to do this with a
battleship was to blow away anyone who got too close to the
ceremony? Sounds kind of odd to me.
hector
My command of the English language is a given.
your command of the English language is taken from English lessons given to
you in your foreign schools.
yes you are a foreigner to me and mine.
just like your idiotic children's programmes, at least i suppose they are
children's programmes?
Keep your idiocies to yourselves we don't want them.
unlike americunts i know my own mind and don't need to be assessed by a
trickcyclist.
just because you and yours are insecure mentally don't assume that everyone
else in the world is.
i have tried to help you, i have shown you the error of your ways, i have
pointed out the imbecility of your alleged children's programmes.
all this for free.
no i don't want you to pay me, consider it an humanitarian gesture just like
your adventures in kosovo.
if you fail to grasp that which i have given you, just take yourself to the
top of the empire state building on the island of Manhattan in the city of
new York in the state of new York and toss yourself off, hell I'll be
generous toss each other off.
Yes do us all a favour.
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed57a$361c3fe0$c2614e0c@default...
: And I guess by the way you demonstrate your command over the English
: language, you consider yourself intelligent and of course, functional.
:
: Go on, show us more of what your shrink already knows.
: --
: Lisa
:
: hector <br...@freeserve.co.uk> wrote in article <7naohb$f0p$1...@gxsn.com>...
: > dear Andy the word you are searching for is Dysfunctional, a common
: illness
: > amongst Americunts, after all if you've ever seen sesame street or
kermit
: > the frog you'll know what i mean.
: > no wonder sane americunt kids grow up wanting to shoot and kill their
: > parents and fellow childhood playmates after watching all this mindless
: > drivel.
: > but worse than this is their efforts and the efforts of fellow minded
: > travellers here in the united kuntdom to impose this junk TV on our
kids.
: > hell i don't want our kids growing up into dysfunctional mind units like
: the
: > americunts.
: > the americunts have failed their kids and now want to fail ours.
: >
: > James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
: > :
: >
: >
The Posting Weasle
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> decided to write
>
>*Whose* money? Surely not YOURS.
><snip>
>
>have gone fishing. And seeing that you refer to the Kennedys as a "long
>running .. soap opera", why don't you do what most people do when something
>is on television or radio they don't like. Change the channel or turn it
>off?!?
how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
>While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
>they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who are
>the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what your
so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
>party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
>country.
you don't live in a wonderful country.
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Mark Shippey
The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote:
: In article <01bed470$56b0b700$48694e0c@default>, James and Lisa Bauer
: <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> decided to write
:>While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
:>they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who are
:>the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what your
: so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
: interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
Other liquor smugglers didn't know how to do things right.
Al Capone should have gone "straight" raised a family, got the
kids into politics. Then we might also have a Capone Dynasty, only
probably they would have a summer house on the Great Lakes instead
of Martha's Vineyard, Capone was a Chicago mobster.
President Capone. Has an interesting ring to it.
Shaun
<kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote:
The press would obviously have to use small motorboats or harmless
civillian aircraft. The US Navy can use its practical combat
experience in this area
Shaun
<kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote:
Plus he'd have all those great mafia contacts for rigging elections
James and Lisa Bauer
<GwZyrPAI...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk>...
<snip>
> how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
If you were paying attention, it wasn't the taxpayer money that should be
turned off. It was whatever media source allowed "Andrew/" to refer to the
Kennedys as a long time soap opera. I simply stated to turn off whatever
it was that made reference to the Kennedys.
> >While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal
lives,
> >they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who
are
> >the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what
your
>
> so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
> interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
>
While Joe Sr. was an S.O.B. (greedy, philandering, and a bully in his own
right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other powerful
people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
> >party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
> >country.
>
> you don't live in a wonderful country.
I can't imagine living anywhere else. This is the greatest, richest, most
powerful country in the world, where people have more freedom than any
other country. Sure, it's not perfect. There are a lot of things that
could and should be better here. But more people leave their homelands
each year and apply for citizenship here than anywhere else. If you've
read any newspaper in the last few weeks, you will have noted that
recently, this country gained a new citizen which, had his father lived to
see it, it would have been the reason for his demise. Does Nikita Kruschev
ring a bell? His son Sergei is of whom I speak. I can't believe that you
can dislike a whole country without there being an underlying reason. So
is there?
Lisa
Mark Shippey
Shaun <sh...@sjameson.ssspppaaammm.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
: On 24 Jul 1999 18:50:14 GMT, Mark Shippey
: <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote:
:>
:>
:>The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote:
:>
:>: In article <01bed470$56b0b700$48694e0c@default>, James and Lisa Bauer
:>: <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> decided to write
:>:>While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal lives,
:>:>they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who are
:>:>the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what your
:>
:>: so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
:>: interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
:>
:> Other liquor smugglers didn't know how to do things right.
:> Al Capone should have gone "straight" raised a family, got the
:>kids into politics. Then we might also have a Capone Dynasty, only
:>probably they would have a summer house on the Great Lakes instead
:>of Martha's Vineyard, Capone was a Chicago mobster.
:> President Capone. Has an interesting ring to it.
:>
: Plus he'd have all those great mafia contacts for rigging elections
And think about the battle for power bewtween the Capone Dynasty
and the Kennedy Dynasty, (the Italian mob vs. the Irish mob) in a
public battle to control the Democrat party.
Come to think of it, a modern day equal would be if a drug lord
went "straight" and moved his sons into politics and eventually
made it to the White House.
Trevjon
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>While Joe Sr. was an S.O.B. (greedy, philandering, and a bully in his own
>right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
>service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other powerful
>people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
>ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
>deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
>Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
>seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
Lisa,
To many British people Joe Senior was a little more than just an "SOB".
In WW2, when he was ambassador to Britain, and Britain was at that time the
only european country not controlled by Hitler (thank god for the English
Channel!), Joe was very, very anti-british. I will not go as far to say he was
pro-Hitler, but in many peoples eyes he was. I don't think it an exaggeration
to say that he was hated by the British general public. At the lowest ebb of
our history, when we needed all the support we could get, he offered non, and
tried to kick us whilst we were down.
Roosevelt, however, saw what was happening, and thankfully "recalled" (ie
sacked) Joe.
Many Americans may not realise just how disliked this man was on this side of
the pond. It is maybe even more suprising that his son. JFK, was respected
and liked
immensly over here. That case can not be argued for Edward, however, who, do
to his untimely and ill-informed remarks concerning Northern Ireland is not a
very well liked man at all over here, generally speaking.
With these thoughts in your mind, you shouldn't really be suprised that certain
people from this nation show dislike and disrespect towards the Kennedy's in
general. Over the years they have not been a friend to Britain.
Whilst you obviously greatly admire this "dynasty", balancing out in your own
mind the good and the bad, please be aware that we may see the family in a
slightly different light, and from our point of view sometimes the bad bits far
outweigh the good bits. Thanks.
Trevjon.
James and Lisa Bauer
Points well taken. I am aware of Joe Sr.'s attitude towards the British,
his habit of putting his foot in his mouth, his underlying support of the
Nazi's, etc. He is not whom I am trying to defend, just trying to explain
why the family is endeared to many in this country. I also can tell you
Joe Sr. wasn't well like in his *own* country either. But his sons were a
different story. I can understand why those on your side of the pond may
feel the way they do. What I *don't* understand is the many instances
sighted here as of late with regard the this country, MY country? I can
not understand what seems to be intense hatred towards the U.S. During
WWII, were we not allies with your country? So this is where I am. I
understand your issues, but can you understand mine? Thanks for your
insights.
--
Lisa
Trevjon <tre...@aol.comnospam> wrote in article
<19990724164245...@ngol04.aol.com>...
> In article <01bed60c$f26af500$fe604e0c@default>, "James and
Trevjon
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>What I *don't* understand is the many instances
>sighted here as of late with regard the this country, MY country? I can
>not understand what seems to be intense hatred towards the U.S. During
>WWII, were we not allies with your country? So this is where I am. I
>understand your issues, but can you understand mine? Thanks for your
>insights.
>--
>Lisa
I'm not sure I have the answer to this. To many peoples eyes in this country
the present government is getting far too "puppet like" with regard to the
"special relationship" between our two countries. This resentment may find an
outlet in any soft target, such as a newsgroup, or whatever.
Other people resent the globalisation that is perceived to be centred on the
American culture. Most of the people I meet with this attitude, however, always
seem to be wearing Levi's and a t-shirt dedicated to such great bands as "Korn"
or "Green Day", whilst eating a Big Mac, drinking a Coca-cola, and using slang
terms repeated from an episode of the Simpsons.
Also, many British people think, as you do, that we live in the greatest
country in the world. I suppose many french and Italian people have similar
thoughts. At one time it was undoubtedly true that we lived in the most
powerful nation on earth, and the British Empire was the greatest empire (in
the geographical sense, I hasten to add) that this planet has ever seen. These
times have , sadly for some, now passed, and the USA seems to have taken over
this mantle. Many people regret the passing of this title and so attack the
usurpers.
There are probably many more reasons, and the ones I have quoted are only my
opinions. I should imagine on another NG elsewhere, a british person is
questioning why America seems to hate the British. I think it all boils down to
perception more than anything else.
Trevjon.
Terienne
Trevjon <tre...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message news:19990724174945...@ngol03.aol.com...
James and Lisa Bauer
Thanks. I guess it's all in the eyes of the beholder. And maybe I am
becoming oversensitive to all of this. Of course everyone feels that their
country is the best. There is nothing wrong with loyalty or patriotism. I
am very proud to be an American, just as I am sure you are very proud to be
British. I just have a hard time with the generalization made towards
Americans, i.e. if Joe Kennedy Sr. is an SOB, etc., so must be all in this
country. Not so. I do not generalize that since I feel the Windsors knew
or know something about the *real* reason for Diana's demise, ALL Brits
must know and therefore must have participated. I have been to England
twice and I must tell you I find the country lovely and the people I
encountered, warm and friendly. I am trying to get my husband to come back
with me (I went with my sister prior to being married), but he wants to see
Ireland first.
Anyway, thanks again.
--
Lisa
Trevjon <tre...@aol.comnospam> wrote in article
<19990724174945...@ngol03.aol.com>...
§chlaf
Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote:
> Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Oxymoron.
>
> Stooopid EuroPeon.
> You can't even spell moron right.
Collins GEM English dictionary:
oxymoron [ox-see-more-on] n. figure of speech that combines two apparently
contradictory ideas, such as cruel kindness.
Now read back this thread carefully. Get it?
Terienne
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:01bed627$8f18fa40$59ac4e0c@default...
Steve Reed
<jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes
>Steve:
>
>In answer to your questions, yes taxpayers money *was* spent. My point was
>"Andrew" is not a taxpayer. I am. Most Americans, while they feel the
>coverage was too extensive, do not feel that the means used to recover the
>bodies was not.
>
>As per a preliminary press report on MSNBC this morning, nothing out of the
>ordinary was found in any of the autopsies, no signs of stroke, heart
>attack, etc. It also reported that the Kennedy family requested that no
>autopsy photographs be taken. It was reported that the three died from,
>and please don't quote me I do not have anything in print in front of me,
>something along the lines of *traumatic impact* and that all three were
>killed instantly. I believe the reason for the cremation coming so quickly
>on the heels of the bodies being discovered was to keep anyone from trying
>to get snap shots of the three.
>
>I am satisfied that nothing here seems suspicious.
Many thanks, Lisa. Now we know that, officially, there was nothing
wrong with any of the persons in the plane which could have caused the
aircraft to dive suddenly into the sea. I would have thought that, of
all the possible causes of this strange occurrence, this would have been
the most likely.
Now I understand why media spin-doctors are frantically suggesting that
"one loose rivet" could have been to blame or "a sudden side-wind". I
do believe we have them on the run, for the moment (remember the "scud-
running" theory?) The real battle (if there is to be one) will come
when the wreckage is assembled.
The input of aero-engineers will be most earnestly sought.
--
Steve Reed
hector
What better reason could there be?
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed60c$f26af500$fe604e0c@default...
: The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote in article
: <GwZyrPAI...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk>...
:
: <snip>
:
: > how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
:
: If you were paying attention, it wasn't the taxpayer money that should be
: turned off. It was whatever media source allowed "Andrew/" to refer to
the
: Kennedys as a long time soap opera. I simply stated to turn off whatever
: it was that made reference to the Kennedys.
: > >While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal
: lives,
: > >they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who
: are
: > >the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what
: your
: >
: > so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
: > interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
: >
:
: right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
: service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other
powerful
: people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
: ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
: deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
: Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
: seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
: > >party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
The Posting Weasle
Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> decided to drivel
>The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote in article
><GwZyrPAI...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk>...
>
><snip>
>
>> how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
>
>If you were paying attention, it wasn't the taxpayer money that should be
>turned off. It was whatever media source allowed "Andrew/" to refer to the
>Kennedys as a long time soap opera. I simply stated to turn off whatever
>it was that made reference to the Kennedys.
I was just making the point that even if you turn off the TV it won't stop
your taxmoney being wasted on the soap-opera of the Kennedys.
>While Joe Sr. was an S.O.B. (greedy, philandering, and a bully in his own
>right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
>service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other powerful
>people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
>ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
>deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
you mean 'instilled' like when he provided Bobby with a prostitute on his 21st
birthday? The fact is they were all out for themselves - see Bobby's
involvement with Marilyn Monroe, Jack's election fixing just to gain political
power for himself, Jackie's sex life, Ted... - and why not, I would as well if
in the same situation.
>Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
>seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
being Irish must have been a great hindrance as well, especially in New York.
>> >party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
>> >country.
>>
>> you don't live in a wonderful country.
>I can't imagine living anywhere else. This is the greatest, richest, most
>powerful country in the world, where people have more freedom than any
>other country. Sure, it's not perfect. There are a lot of things that
oh!dear! here we go again... your country is not the greatest(ask any non-yank
here), richest(due to huge national debt & bankrupt benefits system) or most
powerful(you're just a big paper tiger who nobody takes any notice of, take
India's nuclear tests for example, and you always need the help of more
experienced nations to survive in any war, see Somalia, Vietnam).
As for freedom again wrong - cannot go out in Vegas after dark if you're under
18, forced to have a stupid brown wrapper on alcohol, cannot gamble, illegal
not to say 'sir' at school etc. see elsewhere for numerous examples.
>could and should be better here. But more people leave their homelands
>each year and apply for citizenship here than anywhere else. If you've
well if you're pleased to attract people who failed in their own lands, then
good luck to you.
>read any newspaper in the last few weeks, you will have noted that
>recently, this country gained a new citizen which, had his father lived to
>see it, it would have been the reason for his demise. Does Nikita Kruschev
>ring a bell? His son Sergei is of whom I speak. I can't believe that you
>can dislike a whole country without there being an underlying reason. So
>is there?
nope, all I do is give a contrasting opinion to those of your country who
refuse to accept that anywhere else is any good. But well done for recognizing
that you do have some faults, even though you brush them aside like a typical
yank. As for Kruschev, it's funny how he's officially left Russia just as he
finds a prime market for booksales, just another out for themselves. But at
least we've now got proof you think the clan is your equivalent of our royals,
it proves you definitely are just a bunch of sad Brit-wannabe's. Carry on the
good work!
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"We've become a nation of excuse-makers and corner-cutters, of laggards and
layabouts addicted to novelty and sensation" - Rod Dreher, New York Post
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Terienne
hector <br...@freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:7nfll1$em7$1...@gxsn.com...
I dislike america because James and Lisa Bauer live there.
What better reason could there be?
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed60c$f26af500$fe604e0c@default...
: The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote in article
: <GwZyrPAI...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk>...
:
: <snip>
:
: > how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
:
: If you were paying attention, it wasn't the taxpayer money that should be
: turned off. It was whatever media source allowed "Andrew/" to refer to
the
: Kennedys as a long time soap opera. I simply stated to turn off whatever
: it was that made reference to the Kennedys.
:
: > >While some of them have made really bad decisions in their personal
: lives,
: > >they are on the whole people who seriously put this country first, who
: are
: > >the ultimate philanthropists both in time and money and no matter what
: your
: >
: > so Joe's slightly illegal liquor vending at prohibition time was for the
: > interests of the people and nothing to do with making himself very rich?
: >
:
: While Joe Sr. was an S.O.B. (greedy, philandering, and a bully in his own
: right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
: service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other
powerful
: people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
: ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
: deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
: Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
: seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
:
: > >party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
: > >country.
: >
: > you don't live in a wonderful country.
:
: I can't imagine living anywhere else. This is the greatest, richest, most
: powerful country in the world, where people have more freedom than any
: other country. Sure, it's not perfect. There are a lot of things that
: could and should be better here. But more people leave their homelands
: each year and apply for citizenship here than anywhere else. If you've
: read any newspaper in the last few weeks, you will have noted that
: recently, this country gained a new citizen which, had his father lived to
: see it, it would have been the reason for his demise. Does Nikita
Kruschev
: ring a bell? His son Sergei is of whom I speak. I can't believe that you
: can dislike a whole country without there being an underlying reason. So
: is there?
:
: Lisa
:
Terienne
The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote in message news:YzIyxJAe...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk...In article <01bed60c$f26af500$fe604e0c@default>, some cretin called James and
Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> decided to drivel
>The Posting Weasle <ja...@juno.com> wrote in article
><GwZyrPAI...@space-shuttle.demon.co.uk>...
>
><snip>
>
>> how exactly can you turn off your tax money being spent?
>
>If you were paying attention, it wasn't the taxpayer money that should be
>turned off. It was whatever media source allowed "Andrew/" to refer to the
>Kennedys as a long time soap opera. I simply stated to turn off whatever
>it was that made reference to the Kennedys.
I was just making the point that even if you turn off the TV it won't stop
your taxmoney being wasted on the soap-opera of the Kennedys.
>While Joe Sr. was an S.O.B. (greedy, philandering, and a bully in his own
>right), he *still* instilled into his children the importance of public
>service. He was always out to gain for himself, as are many other powerful
>people in many countries. And his wife, Rose, well aware of his cheating
>ways, stood by him and is the principle reason the Kennedy family has the
>deep roots in the Catholic religion as they do. Remember, as a Roman
you mean 'instilled' like when he provided Bobby with a prostitute on his 21st
birthday? The fact is they were all out for themselves - see Bobby's
involvement with Marilyn Monroe, Jack's election fixing just to gain political
power for himself, Jackie's sex life, Ted... - and why not, I would as well if
in the same situation.
>Catholic family, the Kennedys beat out the odds of winning *ANY* public
>seat, let alone the Presidency of the United States.
being Irish must have been a great hindrance as well, especially in New York.
>> >party line, no one can take away their contributions to this wonderful
>> >country.
>>
>> you don't live in a wonderful country.
>I can't imagine living anywhere else. This is the greatest, richest, most
>powerful country in the world, where people have more freedom than any
>other country. Sure, it's not perfect. There are a lot of things that
oh!dear! here we go again... your country is not the greatest(ask any non-yank
here), richest(due to huge national debt & bankrupt benefits system) or most
powerful(you're just a big paper tiger who nobody takes any notice of, take
India's nuclear tests for example, and you always need the help of more
experienced nations to survive in any war, see Somalia, Vietnam).
As for freedom again wrong - cannot go out in Vegas after dark if you're under
18, forced to have a stupid brown wrapper on alcohol, cannot gamble, illegal
not to say 'sir' at school etc. see elsewhere for numerous examples.
>could and should be better here. But more people leave their homelands
>each year and apply for citizenship here than anywhere else. If you've
well if you're pleased to attract people who failed in their own lands, then
good luck to you.
>read any newspaper in the last few weeks, you will have noted that
>recently, this country gained a new citizen which, had his father lived to
>see it, it would have been the reason for his demise. Does Nikita Kruschev
>ring a bell? His son Sergei is of whom I speak. I can't believe that you
>can dislike a whole country without there being an underlying reason. So
>is there?
nope, all I do is give a contrasting opinion to those of your country who
refuse to accept that anywhere else is any good. But well done for recognizing
that you do have some faults, even though you brush them aside like a typical
yank. As for Kruschev, it's funny how he's officially left Russia just as he
finds a prime market for booksales, just another out for themselves. But at
least we've now got proof you think the clan is your equivalent of our royals,
it proves you definitely are just a bunch of sad Brit-wannabe's. Carry on the
good work!
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Mark Shippey
chlaf <l__...@notfreeuk.com.invalid> wrote:
: In message <7n9s0p$752$1...@news.IAEhv.nl>
: Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote:
: Collins GEM English dictionary:
Right over your head there huh?
It was just a joke idiot, just a joke.
I can't believe you are this stoooopid.
Now go look up stooooopid in your dictionary.
Wi][is
few things straight:
1) Kennedy's plane went down, that sucks but the amount of manpower
used to locate them was retarded. Like everyone that ISN'T american
has said, money better spent somewhere else.
2) There is an incredible amount of propaganda in the states. Living
in Canada I see it all the time. YAY America this and that. I think a
few see through it but the majority just eat it up. It's just a load
of crap. Kosovo for instance. Sure there were some crimes being
committed there, a lot, but saying the answer is to drop a whole
shitload of bombs on them AND innocent people...makes no sense. Same
with Desert Storm. YAY America can bomb the hell out of a bunch or
Iraqi's and use tanks with bulldozer blades on them and bury soldiers
alive in their sand bunkers. YAY YAY YAY we're so good. Buy our new
Time Life movie series on how we kicked ass.
3) I try not to stereotype but about 85% of the americans i've met are
just a bunch of arrogant goofs as soon as they hear i'm Canadian. "you
know, we could take you at any time" well whoopy for you. I'm so
proud. You can measure your worth by how much stuff you can blow up,
good for you.
4) Movies and TV coming out of the states is getting to be too much.
You wonder why kids are taking guns to school? Where the hell do you
think they got the idea? Primetime TV shows all that crap on TV. TBS
and satellite TV is full of gun toting knife weilding movies and tv
shows. Of course you can't drink real beer or advertise for hard
liquor on a TV commercial, that would be a bad influence. I say it's
better to see naked chicks on then some guy getting shot in the face,
maybe that's just me.
5) Americans should travel around the world for a while with an
american flag on their back. See how they get treated compared to
other tourists. It'll be a real eye opener. 6 billion people that
don't like americans can't be wrong.
ง R A I D E R ง
wrote:
>I was just making the point that even if you turn off the TV it won't stop
>your taxmoney being wasted on the soap-opera of the Kennedys.
So your royals are also just a soap opera, then? That's a very
expensive progam, what with them being supported from the Civil
List you all contribute to. When will you lot wake up and abolish
the Civil List contributions and make the royals totally support
themselves? It's going to take hundreds of years for them to
deplete the fortunes they've already stolen from your public, so
there's no danger that any of them will go hungry anytime soon.
* R A I D E R *
"England is the most class-ridden country under the sun. It is a
land of snobbery and privilege, ruled largely by the old and silly."
---- George Orwell
Terienne
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:01bed700$b4e486c0$2dae4e0c@default...Terry:
I've decided not to bother with this negative group anymore. They thrive
on thinking that what they say may have an effect on Americans self esteem.
I wonder if anyone could look in their closets, just how many skeletons
would fall out.
--
Lisa
Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in article
<93293816...@news.remarQ.com>...
<snip>
Terienne
Wi][is <ff_w...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:379b8c14...@news.cal.shaw.wave.ca...
Terienne
members of the same Planet. Cultures are the only difference. You can be
as rude as you please, because all your doing is venting anger about someone
who has nothing to do with me. Not all American's are as your describe.
Not all Brits are as you describe. We are all human beings, both good and
bad. Just like all other Countries and groups of Human Beings, there are
good and bad. You need to look into your anger. It is a telling sign of
serious problems. I hope your venting has helped. I don't believe bombs
of any kind should be set off anywhere. enough destruction has already
happened, it doesn't need to continue.
Terry
Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote in message
news:7ngb92$5ct$1...@news.IAEhv.nl...
>
> Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote:
> : I believe that hating an entire Country because of one couple
> : is a bit extreme. I don't hate UK just because of two establishments
> : who treated me with disrespect simply because I was an American. I love
> : the Country despite those two businesses. I don't allow negativity to
> : cause me to hate.
>
> Well, that is very nice of you Terienne. But we know better. Brits
> treat Americans like that because they are stupid people with bad teeth
> who eat bad food and have those stupid inbred Royal goons running
> around. By the way, have you noticed the amazing similarity between
> Prince Charles and Donald Duck? Uncanny. Anyway, what two establishments
> treated like you that? Personally, I think a few strategically placed
> neutron bombs at tea time would put the Brits out of their misery.
Terienne
keeps going back HTML. Sorry it bothers you. Why hate so much? I prefer
to understand and care about people
Terry
Ferg <fergu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ng6e3$krl$1...@bomb.dynamite.com.au...
Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:9329377...@news.remarQ.com...
I believe that hating an entire Country because of one
couple is a bit extreme. I don't hate UK just because of
two establishments who treated me with disrespect simply
because I was an American. I love the Country despite those
two businesses. I don't allow negativity to cause me to
hate.
I hate morons who post in HTML, especially if they are
American.
Terienne
good in others. Whether it be a person, or a different culture.
Terry
Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote in message
news:7ngiv4$oiq$1...@fnord.nationwide.net...
>
>
> Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote:
> : Not really. I think that being able to see the good in Countries
> : other than my own is a positive thing.
>
> Well, that is mighty nice of you. But don't you think that is stretching
> things a bit when it comes to England? Well, I guess if you look hard
> enough. I guess they can still make fish and chips.
Terienne
and used to many words. I also tried to show examples of what I meant, and
ended up saying too many words yet again. Sorry if I said anything to cause
harm. I just wanted to diffuse the situation. I suppose one could say I
was not successful. So what's new??
Terry
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:qCRm3.596$w03....@news.mcmail.com...
>
> James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:01bed700$b4e486c0$2dae4e0c@default...
> > Terry:
> >
> > I've decided not to bother with this negative group anymore. They
thrive
> > on thinking that what they say may have an effect on Americans self
> esteem.
> > I wonder if anyone could look in their closets, just how many skeletons
> > would fall out.
> > --
> > Lisa
> >
> > Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in article
> > <93293816...@news.remarQ.com>...
> > <snip>
> > Lisa,
> Don't you realise what's happening here, I didn't at first and fell right
> into it. These people are just winding us up to try to disrupt and turn us
> against each other, and it has happened, we are all fighting the bloody
wars
> all over again. I am not going to get drawn into this anymore, I shall
just
> ignore them and hope they go away. If we all do the same, they have no
> power, and that is what they are thriving on, seeing the power they have
to
> do this to people. We all know that there are good and bad in all, as
> Terienne says, so lets leave it at that, and don't leave the NG, because
> then they will have accomplished what they set out to do.
> Geths
>
>
Terienne
I tell you to kiss my ass but I don't desire to catch diseases, who knows
where your mouth has been. Clearly in the gutter, and harming others,
which mean you may have gone to the Mike Tyson school of biting, and so no
such offer will be made.
Terry
Mark Shippey <kpri...@dfw.nationwide.net> wrote in message
news:7ngoni$nke$1...@news.IAEhv.nl...
>
>
> <teri...@cableone.net> wrote:
> : Excuse me.
>
> Okay, you're excused. But try not to let it happen again.
> Seriouisly though, don't you see the amazing similarity between
> Prince Charles and Donald Duck. Think about it. The look, the walk,
> the talk, do you think he studied old Donald Duck cartoons to become
> like that? It is truly uncanny.
Ferg
I believe that hating an entire Country because of one
couple is a bit extreme. I don't hate UK just because of
two establishments who treated me with disrespect simply
because I was an American. I love the Country despite those
two businesses. I don't allow negativity to cause me to
hate.
I hate morons who post in HTML, especially if they are
American.
James and Lisa Bauer
Mark Shippey
Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote:
: I believe that hating an entire Country because of one couple
: who treated me with disrespect simply because I was an American. I love
: the Country despite those two businesses. I don't allow negativity to
: cause me to hate.
Well, that is very nice of you Terienne. But we know better. Brits
Mark Shippey
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: Terry:
: I've decided not to bother with this negative group anymore. They thrive
: on thinking that what they say may have an effect on Americans self esteem.
: I wonder if anyone could look in their closets, just how many skeletons
: would fall out.
Skeltons?
Yea. Especially people like those Kennedys. Did you see 60 Minutes
tonight? They had a show about a Mafia figure and the start was
about how the Mob made millions during Prohibition. They mentioned
Al Capone and others, but not the Kennedys. Heck, when it comes
to money from illegal booze running, I would think Kennedy would
lead the list considering where that illegal money led. But no,
the media is always picking on people like Capone, because he
didn't go "straight" and get his kids into politics. This is
blatant discrimination against the Waaps.
Mark Shippey
Gary Stone
James and Lisa Bauer <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:01bed700$b4e486c0$2dae4e0c@default...
>
> I've decided not to bother with this negative group anymore. They thrive
> on thinking that what they say may have an effect on Americans self
esteem.
> I wonder if anyone could look in their closets, just how many skeletons
> would fall out.
> Lisa
>
> Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in article
> <93293816...@news.remarQ.com>...
> <snip>
Mark Shippey
Gary Stone
You have misunderstood my words, this post was not directed at you to
criticise, the exact opposite. We have all been drawn into conflicts by
abusive posters and have tried to answer back with some decorum and half way
intelligent answers, but its not worth it, they don't want to talk to us
they want to destroy our communication lines, which up until just recently
have been quite good. I think your posts have been marvellous and you have
such patience and understanding, wasted on low life like the ones that have
been flaming this board. Keep the faith and the force be with you. :-)
Gethsnews:9329697...@news.remarQ.com...
> I sure didn't set out to cause harm. I was trying to say we are all
human,
> and used to many words. I also tried to show examples of what I meant,
and
> ended up saying too many words yet again. Sorry if I said anything to
cause
> harm. I just wanted to diffuse the situation. I suppose one could say I
> was not successful. So what's new??
>
>
> Terry
> Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> news:qCRm3.596$w03....@news.mcmail.com...
> >
ง R A I D E R ง
wrote:
>I am sorry you hate so much. I have switched to text several times and it
>keeps going back HTML. Sorry it bothers you. Why hate so much? I prefer
>to understand and care about people
You're looking in all the wrong places. For a few clues, go to:
http://www.spark.org/antU/antyank.html
and
http://www.altairiv.demon.co.uk/antU/antU.html
>Terry
>
>
>
>Ferg <fergu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7ng6e3$krl$1...@bomb.dynamite.com.au...
>
>>Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message
>>news:9329377...@news.remarQ.com...
>>
>>I believe that hating an entire Country because of one
>>couple is a bit extreme. I don't hate UK just because of
>>two establishments who treated me with disrespect simply
>>because I was an American. I love the Country despite those
>>two businesses. I don't allow negativity to cause me to
>>hate.
>
>I hate morons who post in HTML, especially if they are
>American.
* R A I D E R *
Veni, Vidi, Velcro.
Wi][is
wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>I would hope that when I visit other Countries that I will be treated as =
>I treat others. Except for two instances in two weeks time, I was =
>treated kindly and with respect, as I treated those I met. I feel I am =
>a good visitor, and I am usually treated that way. Whether American or =
>Canadian, or whatever Country one is from, one should be treated as =
>Individuals. =20
>
you can give me the whole "do onto others" speech but the fact of the
matter is yanks are gonna get stereotyped. I know a lot of people that
have done a lot of travelling and many of the americans they met were
wearing canadian flags on their packs just so they would be treated
decently. I've even seen it a few times in BC, but their accent gave
themselves away in about one sentence. It all depends where you go and
what kind of relationship the country you are in has with your own.
States have made more enemies than friends in the last year or so, i
wouldn't be waving an american flag in China or anywhere in eastern
europe for a while.
James and Lisa Bauer
Oh, I'm not leaving the NG (much to many peoples disappointment). I am
just not going to dignify anything these, and I use the term loosely,
"people" do anymore. I refer to the American haters. As far as I am
concerned, they are persona non grata.
Thanks for caring though! :o)
--
Lisa
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in article
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Terienne
Terry
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:vOUm3.603$w03....@news.mcmail.com...
> Terienne,
> You have misunderstood my words, this post was not directed at you to
> criticise, the exact opposite. We have all been drawn into conflicts by
> abusive posters and have tried to answer back with some decorum and half
way
> intelligent answers, but its not worth it, they don't want to talk to us
> they want to destroy our communication lines, which up until just recently
> have been quite good. I think your posts have been marvellous and you have
> such patience and understanding, wasted on low life like the ones that
have
> been flaming this board. Keep the faith and the force be with you. :-)
> Geths
> Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:9329697...@news.remarQ.com...
> > I sure didn't set out to cause harm. I was trying to say we are all
> human,
> > and used to many words. I also tried to show examples of what I meant,
> and
> > ended up saying too many words yet again. Sorry if I said anything to
> cause
> > harm. I just wanted to diffuse the situation. I suppose one could say
I
> > was not successful. So what's new??
> >
> >
> > Terry
> > Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> > news:qCRm3.596$w03....@news.mcmail.com...
Terienne
> On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:34:22 -0700, "Terienne" <teri...@cableone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
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> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >I treat others. Except for two instances in two weeks time, I was =
> >treated kindly and with respect, as I treated those I met. I feel I am
GODSBRAIN
>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:16:22 -0700
>Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - The Internet's
>Discussion Network
>
Interesting. I now have at least
two, actually more, news servers.
But in this is reference only to
Supernews(RemarQ) and
www.airnews.net. From memory
on about 7/22/99 10:46 am a
post appeared regarding white
rabbit. My sample was taken
approximately 48 hours later but
the post only appeared on one
of what are publicly advertised
as two of the largest news services
on the web.
How is it that these services
advertise to the public and
yet they do not carry the same
news ?
The post was indicated to have
originated at Newscene which
is another supposedly large
news service.
Now trying to get back to the
point re: acpd that I wanted to
recognize.
>I just wanted to diffuse the situation.
<a href="http://members.home.com/godsbrain/">G.O.D.S.B.R.A.I.N.</a> <br>
herodotu...@my-deja.com
of the pilot or passengers, much less the condition or malfunctioning
of the Piper Saratoga, I think the extensive search was warranted.
Although distasteful to consider ... had the effort not been made, it
is a near surety that some people would mount independent salvage
operations. The possbility that someone would/could do that, and
either get to the bodies or remains first, or to the bits of fuselage,
etc., on the ocean floor, must have been the unspoken and driving force
behind the operation.
Those of us with critical minds, however, also note that if there was a
conspiracy to shoot down/disable that plane, the fact that the US
military moved en force to control the area and remove the bodies and
wreckage would look like a high-level cover-up.
Maxie
In article <lAJAeMA6...@lastings.softnet.co.uk>,
Andrew Steven Reed <ar...@lastings.softnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <01bed568$8443bf20$8c614e0c@default>, James and Lisa Bauer
> <jimmya...@worldnet.att.net> writes
> >Steve:
> >
> >In answer to your questions, yes taxpayers money *was* spent. My
point was
> >"Andrew" is not a taxpayer. I am. Most Americans, while they feel
the
> >coverage was too extensive, do not feel that the means used to
recover the
> >bodies was not.
> >
> >As per a preliminary press report on MSNBC this morning, nothing out
of the
> >ordinary was found in any of the autopsies, no signs of stroke, heart
> >attack, etc. It also reported that the Kennedy family requested
that no
> >autopsy photographs be taken. It was reported that the three died
from,
> >and please don't quote me I do not have anything in print in front
of me,
> >something along the lines of *traumatic impact* and that all three
were
> >killed instantly. I believe the reason for the cremation coming so
quickly
> >on the heels of the bodies being discovered was to keep anyone from
trying
> >to get snap shots of the three.
> >
> >I am satisfied that nothing here seems suspicious.
>
> Many thanks, Lisa. Now we know that, officially, there was nothing
> wrong with any of the persons in the plane which could have caused the
> aircraft to dive suddenly into the sea. I would have thought that, of
> all the possible causes of this strange occurrence, this would have
been
> the most likely.
>
> Now I understand why media spin-doctors are frantically suggesting
that
> "one loose rivet" could have been to blame or "a sudden side-wind". I
> do believe we have them on the run, for the moment (remember the
"scud-
> running" theory?) The real battle (if there is to be one) will come
> when the wreckage is assembled.
>
> The input of aero-engineers will be most earnestly sought.
>
> --
> Steve Reed
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Ken Ehrett
<gary....@cwcom.net> wrote:
>Terienne,
>You have misunderstood my words, this post was not directed at you to
>criticise, the exact opposite. We have all been drawn into conflicts by
>abusive posters and have tried to answer back with some decorum and half way
>intelligent answers, but its not worth it, they don't want to talk to us
>they want to destroy our communication lines, which up until just recently
>have been quite good. I think your posts have been marvellous and you have
>such patience and understanding, wasted on low life like the ones that have
>been flaming this board. Keep the faith and the force be with you. :-)
>Geths
>Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message
You two stupid fucks do know you're posting into alt.nuke.the.USA,
right?
Ken
Many Passsionate Kilos
> I'm glad to know this, thanks. Sorry for misunderstanding.
What are you suggesting Proncess Diana was conspiring to do , and to whom ?
Mark Shippey
Ken Ehrett <ya...@olg.com> wrote:
: On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:13:36 +0100, "Gary Stone"
: <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote:
:>Terienne,
:>You have misunderstood my words, this post was not directed at you to
:>criticise, the exact opposite. We have all been drawn into conflicts by
:>abusive posters and have tried to answer back with some decorum and half way
:>intelligent answers, but its not worth it, they don't want to talk to us
:>they want to destroy our communication lines, which up until just recently
:>have been quite good. I think your posts have been marvellous and you have
:>such patience and understanding, wasted on low life like the ones that have
:>been flaming this board. Keep the faith and the force be with you. :-)
:>Geths
:>Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message
: You two stupid fucks do know you're posting into alt.nuke.the.USA,
: right?
I am wondering how long they will keep crossposting this group
therapy kissey kissey crap before they figure it out.
Gary Stone
I am so sorry Mr Shippy, Thankyou for drawing this to our attention. Have
you any idea how the two groups got connected. I will not post under this
thread again. You make nuke with impunity.
Geths
Andrew/
> I dislike america because James and Lisa Bauer live there.
> What better reason could there be?
The bastard that taught James and Lisa Bauer to type lives
there.
Andrew/
Gary Stone
Andrew/ <and...@altairiv.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:379CB1D2...@altairiv.demon.co.uk...
somehow the two have been linked together. Andrew, go back to nuking, we are
not interested in your comments.
Gethryn
Andrew/
> I believe that hating an entire Country because of one couple
> is a bit extreme.
Bombing the shit out of an entire country because of
just *one* man is ok though is it?
Andrew/
Andrew/
> > I hate morons who post in HTML, especially if they are
> > American.
>
> I am sorry you hate so much. I have switched to text several
> times and it keeps going back HTML.
You see, "It's the computer's fault!". The infaliable amerikan
couldn't possibly be doing anything wrong could he/she/it.
RTFM, jerk.
Andrew/
Gary Stone
Terienne <teri...@cableone.net> wrote in message news:93295644...@news.remarQ.com...I would hope that when I visit other Countries that I will be treated as I treat others. Except for two instances in two weeks time, I was treated kindly and with respect, as I treated those I met. I feel I am a good visitor, and I am usually treated that way. Whether American or Canadian, or whatever Country one is from, one should be treated as Individuals.TerryWi][is <ff_w...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:379b8c14...@news.cal.shaw.wave.ca...I can't just sit by and read this without responding. Lets just get a
few things straight:
1) Kennedy's plane went down, that sucks but the amount of manpower
used to locate them was retarded. Like everyone that ISN'T american
has said, money better spent somewhere else.
2) There is an incredible amount of propaganda in the states. Living
in Canada I see it all the time. YAY America this and that. I think a
few see through it but the majority just eat it up. It's just a load
of crap. Kosovo for instance. Sure there were some crimes being
committed there, a lot, but saying the answer is to drop a whole
shitload of bombs on them AND innocent people...makes no sense. Same
with Desert Storm. YAY America can bomb the hell out of a bunch or
Iraqi's and use tanks with bulldozer blades on them and bury soldiers
alive in their sand bunkers. YAY YAY YAY we're so good. Buy our new
Time Life movie series on how we kicked ass.
3) I try not to stereotype but about 85% of the americans i've met are
just a bunch of arrogant goofs as soon as they hear i'm Canadian. "you
know, we could take you at any time" well whoopy for you. I'm so
proud. You can measure your worth by how much stuff you can blow up,
good for you.
4) Movies and TV coming out of the states is getting to be too much.
You wonder why kids are taking guns to school? Where the hell do you
think they got the idea? Primetime TV shows all that crap on TV. TBS
and satellite TV is full of gun toting knife weilding movies and tv
shows. Of course you can't drink real beer or advertise for hard
liquor on a TV commercial, that would be a bad influence. I say it's
better to see naked chicks on then some guy getting shot in the face,
maybe that's just me.
5) Americans should travel around the world for a while with an
american flag on their back. See how they get treated compared to
other tourists. It'll be a real eye opener. 6 billion people that
don't like americans can't be wrong.
Gary Stone
Go back to alt.nuke the usa, you are not in our newsgroup and we have little
to share or add to each others agenda.
Gethryn
Gary Stone
Andrew we do not want to discuss alt, nuke the usa in this newsgroup please
go back there
Andrew/
> Ignore this person he is from the wrong news group,
I am in the *right* group. I have been posting to
alt.conspiracy.princess-diana since Aug 31st 1997.
If that date means anything to you.
You are on the wrong group - go back to alt.clue.
Andrew/
Andrew/
> You can be as rude as you please, because all your doing is
> venting anger about someone who has nothing to do with me.
Watching the cruise missiles on your tee-vee it's, "USA All
The Way. Ra-Ra-Ra!". When you find out how much people hate
your country's agression it's suddenly got, "nothing to do
with me."
Amerikans like you are just like the Germans turning a blind
eye to the KZ because it was seen as a necessary measure to
maintain their own standard of living.
Andrew/
Gary Stone
appreciated
Gary Stone
If you are in the right group then why all this tirade and abuse to people,
if you have anything to offer, other than childish diatribe, then please do
so, if not go off with your foul mouthed buddies and discuss as much crap as
you see fit. This is the last time I will lower myself to answer you, it
must be perfectly plain to you that even if you have contributed to ACPD,
you are not doing that now by incited flame wars. Go away or grow up.
Mark Shippey
Gary Stone <gary....@cwcom.net> wrote:
: I am so sorry Mr Shippy, Thankyou for drawing this to our attention. Have
: you any idea how the two groups got connected. I will not post under this
: thread again. You make nuke with impunity.
This is not much of an apology considering how rude some of the posts
were from that other newsgroup. Can't people flame each other's countries
anymore without a bunch of do-gooders posting rude things about how
everyone should get along and like each other? I don't know what Usenet
is coming to these days. How the heck can a decent person get along
with people like the Brits?
The Posting Weasle
the truth so the word 'hater' suddenly appears, then you deny we are "people".
But I know you love us really, else you wouldn't be able to promote your own
self-righteousness.
>Geths:
>
>Oh, I'm not leaving the NG (much to many peoples disappointment). I am
>just not going to dignify anything these, and I use the term loosely,
>"people" do anymore. I refer to the American haters. As far as I am
>concerned, they are persona non grata.
>
>Thanks for caring though! :o)
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