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> NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
>
> BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
> late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
That'll teach 'em for trying to steal nuclear secrets!
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: >BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
: >late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
: Steal our nuclear secrets, will you? hehehehe...
hehe?? You think you American guy bomb our embassy and that's funny!!??
Fuck you!! It's too good that so many of your student die in that crazy
gun-shoot incident that's only happen in crazy country like yours!!
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Wong Siu Tung Tony <w...@glink.net.hk> wrote in message
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>
Tom Abbott
wrote:
>Doug Berry (dbe...@hooked.net) wrote:
>: On Fri, 07 May 1999 23:59:56 GMT, the Secret Masters made
>: "///Ion\\\\\\" <in...@internetofficenews.com> pass this message on
>: to me:
>
>: >NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
>: >
>: >BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
>: >late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
>
>: Steal our nuclear secrets, will you? hehehehe...
>
>hehe?? You think you American guy bomb our embassy and that's funny!!??
>Fuck you!! It's too good that so many of your student die in that crazy
>gun-shoot incident that's only happen in crazy country like yours!!
>
>
Oh, lighten up, it was an accident. BTW, how many Tibetans have the
Chinese murdered this week? How long do you think it will be before
China succeeds in wiping out Tibetan buddism? Does it make Chinese
soldiers feel tough to beat up helpless monks? Just be glad your
"strategic partner" Bill Clinton is still in office.
TA
Websurfer
When China killed students, it was a crime.
When American killed innocent people, it is called JUSTICE.
Websurfer
week?
I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
xxxxx
mistake.
kevg
own nuclear message back to you.
Tom Abbott wrote in message <3742b5e2...@news.supernews.com>...
¥Oª°¨R
Tom Abbott wrote:
> On 8 May 1999 16:52:53 GMT, w...@glink.net.hk (Wong Siu Tung Tony)
> wrote:
>
> >Doug Berry (dbe...@hooked.net) wrote:
> >: On Fri, 07 May 1999 23:59:56 GMT, the Secret Masters made
> >: "///Ion\\\\\\" <in...@internetofficenews.com> pass this message on
> >: to me:
> >
> >: >NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
> >: >
> >: >BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
> >: >late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
> >
> >: Steal our nuclear secrets, will you? hehehehe...
> >
> >hehe?? You think you American guy bomb our embassy and that's funny!!??
> >Fuck you!! It's too good that so many of your student die in that crazy
> >gun-shoot incident that's only happen in crazy country like yours!!
> >
> >
>
> Oh, lighten up, it was an accident. BTW, how many Tibetans have the
> Chinese murdered this week? How long do you think it will be before
> China succeeds in wiping out Tibetan buddism? Does it make Chinese
> soldiers feel tough to beat up helpless monks? Just be glad your
> "strategic partner" Bill Clinton is still in office.
>
> TA
The fact is, it is not what you think that is happening in Tibet, you people
just don't understand.
Wolfslang
>///Ion\\\ <in...@internetofficenews.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
>> late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
>
>
>
You know, it is quite a coincidence: one of the many Clinton
coincidences. One day congressional leaders appear on television to
introduce a report criticizing the Clinton administration for allowing
Chinese access to top secret U.S. technology and that night the Chinese
Embassy is bombed, a mistake that dominates the news. Remember the missile
attacks on Sudan and Afghanistan? Well, if I didn't know better, I would
begin to suspect that the Clinton administration is not completely honest.
LoneStar
How dare you say that! The Clinton administration has always
been completely honest.
MABUS
Wolfslang wrote:
Wake up....they are being set up by the evil christian religion. The christians
want WW3 in order to prove their bible true. If WW3 does not happen their bible
will be proven as the bunk that it really is.
Is this staring to make sense.
Christians are the evil human garbage of the Earth.
Tom Abbott
<ma...@kevgspam.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>And be very glad that the Chinese will soon be able to deliver their very
>own nuclear message back to you.
We've been down that road before. Our former opponent in that
deadly game is now struggling to survive economically. Choose your
course wisely. America can be your friend, but friendship must be
earned, and China to date seems only to be taking (albeit with a
smile), not giving. The world can be just like you want it to be,
good or bad.
TA
>
>
>Tom Abbott wrote in message <3742b5e2...@news.supernews.com>...
>>On 8 May 1999 16:52:53 GMT, w...@glink.net.hk (Wong Siu Tung Tony)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Doug Berry (dbe...@hooked.net) wrote:
>>>: On Fri, 07 May 1999 23:59:56 GMT, the Secret Masters made
>>>: "///Ion\\\\\\" <in...@internetofficenews.com> pass this message on
>>>: to me:
>>>
>>>: >NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
>>>: >
>>>: >BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in
>Belgrade
>>>: >late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
>>>
Tom Abbott
wrote:
>How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities this
>week?
>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
culture and religion.
And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
At least the U.S. has the excuse of preventing genocide in Kosovo.
The only reason China invaded Tibet was because the Tibetans were
incapable of defending themselves because of their pacifist religious
beliefs, and China went in and took advantage of the situation.
I hope that after this Kosovo problem is resolved, we turn our
attention to freeing Tibet from tyranny. The Chinese government's
stirring up of emotions in China over the bombing of their embassy,
may backfire in their faces. What's the point in promoting these
kinds of demonstrations? Are you going to be our partner, or our
adversary? It is up to you.
TA
Searcher
Tom Abbott wrote in message <3744f48b...@news.supernews.com>...
>On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities this
>>week?
>>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
>
> Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
>is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
>America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
>government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
>culture and religion.
Actually, this is an incorrect statement.
Waco was a state sponsored execution.
The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
Our gov't just bulldozes the evidence so no one can prove
them responsible.
> And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
>hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
>moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
>get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
It may be hypocrisy but this is a first for the US. We are supposed to be the moral high ground for the world, never lowering our
standards. We teach this to our children. Our leaders need a refresher course in morality 101.
> At least the U.S. has the excuse of preventing genocide in Kosovo.
>The only reason China invaded Tibet was because the Tibetans were
>incapable of defending themselves because of their pacifist religious
>beliefs, and China went in and took advantage of the situation.
You have bought into the NATO propaganda here. There is NO GENOCIDE being waged in Kolsovo. This is a propaganda ploy to demonize
Milosivec who, in reality, is no better or worse than Clinton, Blair, Shea or any of the West's known LIARS!
end post.
joe long
http://tscnet.com/~joelong/0carleta.html
James Little
If I am not mistaken the Morrow Federal Building was not done by the
gov. I thought the Timothy McVay and another guy did that one. Please
explain how this was state sponsered?
On Sun, 9 May 1999 14:46:48 -0700, "Searcher" <joe...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>
>Tom Abbott wrote in message <3744f48b...@news.supernews.com>...
>>On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
>>wrote:
>>
J.Smith
<7h29ki$j9m$1...@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> And your government killing protesting students is normal. Get your own
> communist backyard in order before you complain about us.
Err... If you had your head screwed on the right way, you might see from
Wong's .sig that he is actually Doug Berry. D'oh!
Jeremy.
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MABUS
Tom Abbott wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 1999 00:08:49 +0100, "kevg"
> <ma...@kevgspam.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >And be very glad that the Chinese will soon be able to deliver their very
> >own nuclear message back to you.
>
> We've been down that road before. Our former opponent in that
> deadly game is now struggling to survive economically. Choose your
> course wisely. America can be your friend, but friendship must be
> earned, and China to date seems only to be taking (albeit with a
> smile), not giving. The world can be just like you want it to be,
> good or bad.
>
It's too bad that peoples cannot be left alone.
>
> TA
>
> >
> >
> >Tom Abbott wrote in message <3742b5e2...@news.supernews.com>...
Searcher
Doug Berry wrote in message <37371945...@news.wenet.net>...
>On Sun, 9 May 1999 14:46:48 -0700, the Secret Masters made
>"Searcher" <joe...@cruzio.com> pass this message on to me:
>
>
>>Actually, this is an incorrect statement.
>>Waco was a state sponsored execution.
>>Our gov't just bulldozes the evidence so no one can prove
>>them responsible.
>
>Elvis was behind Waco and the Murrah building bombing, and say
>that his elite network of squirrels cover up all the evidence.
>
>We have exactly the same credibility level.
>
OKC Bombing... do some reading.
http://www.parascope.com/mx/okm.htm
McVeigh had, unknown to him, help in destroying the building.
The ATF KNEW that McVeigh had this planned and SOMEONE
set charges in the Murrah Building. I remember watching this on
television and the rescuers at least twice were told to evacuate
due to unexploded charges found in the building. There are
public records, court documents, of emergency personnel that
testified to seeing the charges. You don't hear this because the
Media is owned and operated by the powers that be. This adds
up to State Sponsered MURDER to me!
Waco Holocoust Museum... more reading required.
http://www1.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html
This speaks for itself... State Sponsored MURDER
Both sites were bulldozed before any public investigation could be
initiated. Was there something to hide? You freaking betcha there was!
Don't blame Elvis, he was at Graceland for both events,
not too sure about the squirrels though =)
Searcher
David Johnston wrote in message <37379E...@telusplanet.net>...
>Searcher wrote:
>>
>> Tom Abbott wrote in message <3744f48b...@news.supernews.com>...
>> >On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>week?
>> >>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
>> >
>> > Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
>> >is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
>> >America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
>> >government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
>> >culture and religion.
>>
>> Waco was a state sponsored execution.
>> The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
>
Waco motive: 4 dead ATF agents after an attempted illegal raid on the B.D. compound.
OKC motive: New anti-terrorist legislation designed to strip even more of our rights away.
I am surprised you don't know these facts.
>> > And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
>> >hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
>> >moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
>> >get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
>>
>> It may be hypocrisy but this is a first for the US.
>Since when is this a first for the U.S.?
First time we have attacked a sovereign country that was involved in a civil war. I guess you could put Viet Nam in this category
but didn't NVN invade SVN?
>We are supposed to be the moral high ground for the world, never
>lowering our
>> standards.
>
>Since when?
I was raised to believe this country stands for freedom and democracy. Maybe it is a misconception to believe that makes us the
high moral groundskeepers.
Searcher
>> >On Sun, 9 May 1999 14:46:48 -0700, the Secret Masters made
>> >"Searcher" <joe...@cruzio.com> pass this message on to me:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Waco was a state sponsored execution.
>> >>The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
>> >>them responsible.
>> >
>> >So how do you have proof? I could just as easily claim that
>> >Elvis was behind Waco and the Murrah building bombing, and say
>> >that his elite network of squirrels cover up all the evidence.
>> >
>> >We have exactly the same credibility level.
>> >
>>
>> OKC Bombing... do some reading.
>>
>> http://www.parascope.com/mx/okm.htm
>> McVeigh had, unknown to him, help in destroying the building.
>> The ATF KNEW that McVeigh had this planned and SOMEONE
>> set charges in the Murrah Building. I remember watching this on
>> television and the rescuers at least twice were told to evacuate
>> due to unexploded charges found in the building. There are
>> public records, court documents, of emergency personnel that
>> testified to seeing the charges.
>
David,
If you were following the thread you would know this was a reply to Doug and James. So you see nothing wrong with the ATF knowing
and allowing all those people to be blown away? Terry Nichols got a lot of time for knowing and not saying anything. Why should
the ATF be treated any differently? They knew and they helped by planting charges to be sure the building came down because they
knew the truck bomb would not be powerful enough to do the job.
and you say... "Uh...so what?"
you would not say that if one of your family were in that building.
you would not say that if your child were killed needlessly.
You are what is wrong with this country. You can not see that OKC and Waco are both attacks on you and me as well as the victims.
If it does not directly affect your life then "Uh...so what?" Wake up Davey-boy! We could really use you on our side...
Vance
Chinese embassy may have been linked to the recent theft of
technological secrets by the Chinese Communists. CIA could not
possibly be so dumb as to not know the street adress of foreign
embassies located in the capitol of a country with which we are at
war. The attack was intentional and well deserved as retribution for
the Chinese' cynical espionage tactics (NOTE: less advanced communist
nations have always needed to steal from us what they are unable to
achieve on their own; their system discourages creative, independant
thought). Well done, CIA (no sarcasm intended).
Brandon Quina
> > coincidences. One day congressional leaders appear on television to
> > introduce a report criticizing the Clinton administration for allowing
> > Chinese access to top secret U.S. technology and that night the Chinese
> > Embassy is bombed, a mistake that dominates the news. Remember the missile
> > attacks on Sudan and Afghanistan? Well, if I didn't know better, I would
> > begin to suspect that the Clinton administration is not completely honest.
>
> been completely honest.
Well, except for that whole "Did not sleep with that woman," thing...
Brandon,
ahem. sorry, I couldn't resist.
Brandon Quina
> christians want WW3 in order to prove their bible true. If WW3 does not happen
> their bible will be proven as the bunk that it really is.
Why would the bible be proven false if their isn't a WWIII in the
immediate future? I mean, we WILL eventually have one; we just aren't
nice enough to avoid having one, eventually....
Brandon,
Brandon Quina
with a nuclear arsenal more than sufficient to destroy our entire
country...
Brandon,
David Johnston
Perfectly true. He didn't sleep with that woman. He was awake.
David Johnston
>
> Tom Abbott wrote in message <3744f48b...@news.supernews.com>...
> >On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities this
> >>week?
> >>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
> >
> > Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
> >is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
> >America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
> >government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
> >culture and religion.
>
> Waco was a state sponsored execution.
> The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
Really? What was the State's motive?
> > And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
> >hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
> >moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
> >get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
>
> It may be hypocrisy but this is a first for the US.
Since when is this a first for the U.S.?
We are supposed to be the moral high ground for the world, never
lowering our
> standards.
Since when?
We teach this to our children. Our leaders need a refresher course in
David Johnston
>
> Doug Berry wrote in message <37371945...@news.wenet.net>...
> >On Sun, 9 May 1999 14:46:48 -0700, the Secret Masters made
> >"Searcher" <joe...@cruzio.com> pass this message on to me:
> >
> >
> >>Waco was a state sponsored execution.
> >>The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
David Johnston
What, are the Americans the only ones allowed to spy?
Tuomo Lindholm
ĄOŞ°¨R kirjoitti viestissä <373550AA...@sprint.ca>...
>The fact is, it is not what you think that is happening in Tibet, you
people
>just don't understand.
Care to explain ?
T.
Gregory Gadow
> On Fri, 07 May 1999 23:59:56 GMT, the Secret Masters made
> "///Ion\\\\\\" <in...@internetofficenews.com> pass this message on
> to me:
>
> >NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
> >
> >BELGRADE (Reuters) - A NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade
> >late Friday, injuring 26 people, a Yugoslav minister said Saturday...
>
> Steal our nuclear secrets, will you? hehehehe...
Indeed. I have very little doubt that if it had been, say, Korea or India
stealing the technology, it would not have been the Chinese embassy that was
"accidentally" bombed.
--
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false or misleading headers is in violation of state law and subject
to a $500 penalty. I WILL FILE CHARGES!
David Johnston
>
> If you were following the thread you would know this was a reply to Doug and James. So you see nothing wrong with the ATF knowing
> and allowing all those people to be blown away?
No, you misunderstand. How does the existence of unexploded charges prove that
McVeigh had help? As for the ATF knowing ahead of time, someone always knows
ahead of time. Pearl Harbour, spies, idiot teenagers running amok, somebody always
has indications that these things were approaching and was stupid enough not to
take it as seriously as they should have, or to not respond as quickly and decisively
as they should have.
Remember, people are stupid.
David Johnston
>
> David Johnston wrote in message <37379E...@telusplanet.net>...
> >Searcher wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities this
> >> >>week?
> >> >>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
> >> >
> >> > Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
> >> >is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
> >> >America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
> >> >government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
> >> >culture and religion.
> >>
> >> Waco was a state sponsored execution.
> >> The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
> >
>
What made the raid illegal? Given that officers had already been
killed, how would the situation have plausibly been resolved without
more people dieing at Waco?
> OKC motive: New anti-terrorist legislation designed to strip even more of our rights away.
Really? What legislation was that? I don't find that especially
plausible in any case. Conspiratorial reasoning only goes so far.
As I understand it, American federal agencies already have virtual
carte blanche to raid anywhere, any time, so what would they actually
gain?
> I am surprised you don't know these facts.
I'm not an American.
>
> >> > And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
> >> >hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
> >> >moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
> >> >get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
> >>
> >> It may be hypocrisy but this is a first for the US.
>
> >Since when is this a first for the U.S.?
>
> First time we have attacked a sovereign country that was involved in a civil war. I guess you could put Viet Nam in this category
> but didn't NVN invade SVN?
But then without a civil war there would have been no North and South
Vietnam. The conflict between them was just an extension of that.
>
> >We are supposed to be the moral high ground for the world, never
> >lowering our
> >> standards.
> >
> >Since when?
>
> I was raised to believe this country stands for freedom and democracy.
One of the oddest delusions that Americans have is that all their fights
are for freedom, a goal which is apparently found in some rather dubious
hiding places. Historically, your nation has frequently stood for some
kind of tyranny. More often than for democracy I'd say, given that
anti-communist is not necessarily pro-democracy. When democracy has
stood in peril, the United States has rarely hesitated to stand back
and avoid the issue.
Maybe it is a misconception to believe that makes us the
> high moral groundskeepers.
Always a mistake to take political rhetoric too seriously.
Doug Bartley
David Johnston <rgo...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>Subject: Re: NATO Hit Belgrade Chinese Embassy, 26 Hurt-Minister
>From: David Johnston
>Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 03:34:28 GMT
>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.new-world-order,alt.current-events,alt.current-events.usa,alt.politics
>
>Searcher wrote:
>>
>> Doug Berry wrote in message <37371945...@news.wenet.net>...
>> >On Sun, 9 May 1999 14:46:48 -0700, the Secret Masters made
>> >"Searcher" <joe...@cruzio.com> pass this message on to me:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Actually, this is an incorrect statement.
>> >>Waco was a state sponsored execution.
>> >>The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
>> >>Our gov't just bulldozes the evidence so no one can prove
>> >>them responsible.
>> >
>> >So how do you have proof? I could just as easily claim that
>> >Elvis was behind Waco and the Murrah building bombing, and say
>> >that his elite network of squirrels cover up all the evidence.
>> >
>> >We have exactly the same credibility level.
>> >
>>
>> OKC Bombing... do some reading.
>>
>> http://www.parascope.com/mx/okm.htm
>> McVeigh had, unknown to him, help in destroying the building.
>> The ATF KNEW that McVeigh had this planned and SOMEONE
>> set charges in the Murrah Building. I remember watching this on
>> television and the rescuers at least twice were told to evacuate
>> due to unexploded charges found in the building. There are
>> public records, court documents, of emergency personnel that
>> testified to seeing the charges.
>
>Uh...so what?
>
>
Uh...so there is plenty of evidence that strongly suggests McVeigh
did not do this himself. All that is required is a modest effort and
much can be found. Note that at his trial the government called no
witnesses that actually placed him at the crime scene. The prosecution
had a number of witnesses that could do so. So why weren't they called?
Because none of them placed McVeigh there *alone*. As in they
were going to say he was with people who didn't exist in the
government's scenario.
I suggest a look at the OKC section of the book _Medusa File_
by Craig Roberts.
Doug Berry's credibility is negligible on most of what he comments
on because he rejects out of hand evidence or arguments that
conflict in any way with his "accept the official version, all
who don't are rabid rightwing conspiracy wackos" world view.
Regards,
Doug Bartley
Hamamatsu, Japan
Doug Bartley
vancem...@NOSPAMhotmail.com (Vance) wrote:
Gee, do the cynical practices of our own "leaders" giving away
access to secrets in exchange (effectively) for financial
support - a la John Huang - qualify for such retribution as well?
What parts of Washington DC, Langley, Little Rock etc. should be
"taken out"??
Cheers,
Doug Bartley
Hamamatsu, Japan
Liberty
Of course they havent talked about the role that Andreas Strassmeir played
in the Oklahoma situation. Also, they dont tell you that FBI agents visited
the place in Elohim City where all of these so called extremists were and
knew in advance that the bombing was to take place. Really the whole case
exclusively about McVeigh was a fraud and obviously with much research and
documentation one could a great deal of the truth of what really happened.
Of course many are too lazy to research or document anything and expect to
hear it in the sanitized and controlled news media rather than by
investigative research.
Doug Bartley <fur...@inh.co.jp> wrote in article
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Craig
Tom Abbott wrote:
> On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities this
> >week?
> >I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing Tibetan.
>
> Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of: there
> is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
> America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
> government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the Tibetan
> culture and religion.
>
> And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
> hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
> moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when you
> get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
Let's not forget China's military threats toward Taiwan.
Cheers...Craig
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David Johnston <rgo...@telusplanet.net> wrote in article
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> Searcher wrote:
> >
> > David Johnston wrote in message <37379E...@telusplanet.net>...
> > >Searcher wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Tom Abbott wrote in message
<3744f48b...@news.supernews.com>...
> > >> >On Sat, 08 May 1999 18:33:06 -0500, Websurfer <Webs...@itnet.com>
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>How many white Americans Have abused and killed black minorities
this
> > >> >>week?
> > >> >>I am very sure that numbers are larger than Chinese abusing
Tibetan.
> > >> >
> > >> > Well, I'm not sure of the numbers, but one thing I am sure of:
there
> > >> >is no state-sponsored killing of innocent civilians going on in
> > >> >America. That cannot be said about Tibet, where the Chinese
> > >> >government is engaged in a deliberate policy to wipe out the
Tibetan
> > >> >culture and religion.
> > >>
> > >> Actually, this is an incorrect statement.
> > >> Waco was a state sponsored execution.
> > >> The Murrah Building in OKC was state sponsored killing.
> > >
> > >Really? What was the State's motive?
> >
> > Waco motive: 4 dead ATF agents after an attempted illegal raid on the
B.D. compound.
>
> What made the raid illegal? Given that officers had already been
> killed, how would the situation have plausibly been resolved without
> more people dieing at Waco?
>
> > OKC motive: New anti-terrorist legislation designed to strip even more
of our rights away.
>
> Really? What legislation was that? I don't find that especially
> plausible in any case. Conspiratorial reasoning only goes so far.
> As I understand it, American federal agencies already have virtual
> carte blanche to raid anywhere, any time, so what would they actually
> gain?
>
> > I am surprised you don't know these facts.
>
> I'm not an American.
>
> >
> > >> > And China blusters about the U.S. invading another country. Pure
> > >> >hypocrisy! In order to criticize effectively, you need to have the
> > >> >moral high ground. Come back when you have it, which means when
you
> > >> >get out of Tibet and leave the Tibetans to themselves.
> > >>
> > >> It may be hypocrisy but this is a first for the US.
> >
> > >Since when is this a first for the U.S.?
> >
> > First time we have attacked a sovereign country that was involved in a
civil war. I guess you could put Viet Nam in this category
> > but didn't NVN invade SVN?
>
> But then without a civil war there would have been no North and South
> Vietnam. The conflict between them was just an extension of that.
>
> >
> > >We are supposed to be the moral high ground for the world, never
> > >lowering our
> > >> standards.
> > >klipp
"A food for thought"
A strait and narrow mind
is like a strait and narrow road
No bypasses to find
you fallow like a goat
No thought to others lend
nor of this road you stray
for at the narrow end
it愀 a shelter and your hay.
But this is also true
an for others..Oh so real
That in the end its you
on the table...masters meal!