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JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
The Warren Commission made a definitive statement in its report about
LHO arriving slightly after 1:15pm. But if that's true, then again, it
casts great doubt about him killing Tippit.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You're overstating the Warren Commission's timeline. The WC's times
(as seen in CE1119-A) are "approximate" times--not "definitive" as you
claim. And on pages 156-157 of the Warren Report, we find these words:
"At about 1:16 p.m.". The WC wasn't placing the 1:16 time in concrete
and you know it. All times are only approximations.
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0091a.htm
And we know for a fact that anyone saying Tippit was "DOA" at
Methodist at 1:15 was simply wrong. Because, as mentioned previously,
the ambulance didn't even arrive at 10th Street to pick up Tippit
until about 1:19 PM.
Do you really think that BOTH the Dallas Police radio logs AND the
Hughes ambulance records are wrong? Dudley Hughes filled out the
ambulance call slip before the ambulance left for 10th Street, and the
slip was stamped "1:18 PM". ["With Malice"; page 101.]
Yes, yes, I know, you don't rely on a single thing uttered by Dale K.
Myers (which, of course, is very very silly, since Myers has spent
more time studying the Tippit murder than anyone else in the world;
but, for some reason, Mr. Fiorentino doesn't like Mr. Myers' work, so
anything in Myers' book must be dismissed by John F., even though Dale
has come to the exact same bottom-line conclusion that John Fiorentino
has come to--Oswald murdered Tippit). Go figure. ~shrug~
And the crap about the bullets not being tied conclusively to Oswald's
revolver is not nearly enough to raise "reasonable doubt". (And as you
know, of course, Joseph Nicol--the NON-Government firearms expert--did
say that one of the four bullets could be linked conclusively to
Oswald's gun.)
Another often overlooked aspect of the bullets that killed Tippit is
this -- Those bullets showed characteristics of being fired through a
gun that had been re-barreled, meaning the bullets wobbled going down
the barrel. And--volia!--Oswald's revolver did have such a barrel,
causing the bullets to wobble.
But the key physical evidence are the bullet shells, two of which did
not go through J.M. Poe's hands at all and, as such, they have a clear
chain of custody (even for most conspiracy kooks).
The only possible way for Lee Harvey Oswald to be innocent of shooting
J.D. Tippit is if the following idiotic situation occurred (which
nobody could possibly even begin to believe happened on November 22,
1963):
Somebody other than Lee Oswald shoots Tippit with Oswald's revolver.
This "non-Oswald" shooter (who looks just exactly like Lee Harvey
Oswald, but really isn't him) then flees the scene of the Tippit
crime, dumping four shells on the ground as he runs away. This non-
Oswald shooter then meets up with the real Lee Oswald and hands off
the Tippit murder weapon to LHO. Oswald then proceeds to the Texas
Theater where he is arrested while in possession of the gun that
somebody else used to kill Officer Tippit just 35 minutes earlier.
JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
A good defense lawyer would have destroyed the prosecution's case.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You're silly.
It would seem as though the tactics of Anthony Marsh have now rubbed
off on John Fiorentino. (You know, the "always argue with someone just
for the sake of arguing, even though you agree with them" tactic.)
The only way a jury would have acquitted Oswald in the Tippit murder
is if the entire jury was comprised of the "OJ Twelve" (the same
dimwitted jury which let Simpson go free).
The evidence against Oswald in the Tippit murder is so strong and
foolproof, no sensible person would have any trouble at all convicting
him.
1.) The many "It Was Oswald With A Gun" witnesses.
2.) The bullet shells.
3.) Joseph Nicol's testimony too (don't totally dismiss this).
4.) Oswald's incredibly incriminating statements made to Officer C.T.
Walker in the police car.
5.) And the clincher--Oswald still had the Tippit murder weapon ON HIM
just half-an-hour after Tippit was killed.
Even with some anomalies and discrepancies in the timelines and the
"Remington" vs. "Winchester" bullet shells, the totality of evidence
hangs Oswald for Tippit's murder and always has. And anyone saying
otherwise just flat-out does not want to face the reality that exists
within that "totality" of evidence.