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Thane Eugene Cesar [pic]

Armed security guard standing directly behind Robert Kennedy when he was
shot in the back of the head.

Cesar - a supporter of the racist candidate George Wallace, and outspoken in
his hatred of the Kennedy's - was hired as a part-time security guard just a
few months before getting called up at the last minute to personally escort
Kennedy. Given the likely outcome of the elections, this 26 year old plumber
turned part-time security guard was suddenly the armed personal bodyguard of
the next President of the United States.

Cesar was guiding Kennedy by the arm when he was killed. He admitted drawing
his gun at the time of the killing. And lied about getting rid of the gun
before the killing. Years later he re-itterated his hatred of the Kennedy's.
And admitted it did kinda look bad, evidence-wise. But its probably all just
a big misunderstanding.

The LAPD tried to clear everything up by removing the bullet riddled wall
panelling and burning it all to "save space." They helpfully followed up
with the destruction of photographs, loss of test results, and bullying of
witnesses. Years later, the LAUSD tried to help further clarify matters by
utterly demolishing the hotel and any possible remaining evidence in the
pantry. Which is probably all just part of a big old misunderstanding.

In 2006, Cesar's .22 calliber gun (untested by the LAPD) that he claimed he
sold both before and after the killing was finally found in a lake in
Arkansas. In 2004, a previously unacknowledged audio recording of the
assassination was found in an archive. Tests on the audio indicate that
10-13 shots were fired. Sirhans gun held 8. Cesar is thought to be living in
the Philippines. Or somewhere like that. Maybe.

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http://www.ctka.net/pr795-2gun.html
from the July-August 1995 issue (Vol. 2, No. 5)

"Ted Charach's Press Conference: Thane Eugene Cesar's Gun Found"
by David Manning


In truth, heretics are more despised than infidels. In practice, it is never
more true than in the attitude of the political elite and the wags who sing
their praises, toward the assassination research community. The most recent
case in point was the non-coverage of the press conference held by RFK
assassination researcher, Ted Charach. Charach used the occasion of the 27th
anniversary of RFK's death to reveal the latest findings in the case.
Surprisingly or not so surprisingly, not one reporter from any news
organization showed up!

It is no small coincidence that author Dan Moldea also called a press
conference at exactly 11:00 a.m. on Monday, June 5th, ostensibly to hype his
latest book The Killing of Robert F. Kennedy. Since the book concludes that
Sirhan acting alone shot and killed Robert Kennedy, we wonder if any news
organization covered Moldea's press conference. We certainly did not see,
hear or read anything about the press conference, so we're left to conclude
one of two things; either Moldea had nothing very compelling to say or the
press coverage in this town is a lot worse than anyone realized.

In the course of recapping that which is known from the release of his book,
articles, video and film presentations, Charach revealed several new pieces
of evidence which substantiate the charges of obstruction of justice,
subornation of perjury and a cover-up in this case. He also revealed a new
wrinkle in his second gun theory. He now believes that not only did Thane
Eugene Cesar fatally shoot RFK in the head, but like Sirhan, as discussed in
the book The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, by Jon Christian and
William Turner, Cesar was a programmed assassin and has no memory of the
acts he committed that night.

"Photo by Thomas Smith, showing Ted Charach holding a picture of Coroner
Thomas Noguchi indicating the point of entry to the bullet that struck
Robert Kennedy at point blank range in the back of the head. Sirhan was
shooting from, according to eyewitnesses, no closer than one and a half feet
in front of Kennedy." [photo]

Charach displayed copies of documents recovered from state archives which
bolstered the 1970 testimony of criminalist William Harper. Harper testified
that LAPD criminalist DeWayne Wolfer had falsified the results of the
test-firing of the gun used by Sirhan. The documents clearly show the serial
number of the gun test-fired by Wolfer as H-18602. Yet, the serial number of
Sirhan's gun is actually H-53725. Wolfer has always stated (even under oath)
this discrepancy was merely a "clerical error."

Charach also revealed that last year he made a trip to the Middle East.
During that trip he met with members of the Israeli Mossad who, Charach
implied, had been aware of the CIA's use of Sirhan Bishara Sirhan as a
mind-control subject and a programmed assassin. He offered up a film he had
made of these discussions with the Mossad agents to any legitimate news
service organization for airing and analysis on American television.

Another film he offered to any news service organization was that of an
interview of shooting eyewitness Donald Schulman who that night told Jerry
Dunphy of KNXT news (now KCBS) that a security guard had fired his gun back
at Sirhan and had accidentally shot RFK. Jerry Dunphy and KCBS have denied
that this interview ever took place. Of course, since no news organization
was represented at the press conference, nobody took Charach up on his offer
to air either of these films.

Finally, Ted Charach, who refers to himself as the "Father of the Second Gun
Theory" in the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, has teamed up with
feature film producers, Beaux Carson and Tim Gibbons to tell the story of
the search for the second gun and the lives who have been affected by the
search.

The project is titled, "Operation Tinker Toy" - Phase I and Phase II. It's
the story of how the gun turned up in the possession of certain residents of
a little town in Arkansas, and how their lives took rather dramatic turns
for the worse under possession of this gun. Their story is told within the
backdrop of Charach's 25 year search for it.

At one point during the press conference, Beaux Carson brought in a man
toting a metal briefcase and a handcuff attached to his wrist. Inside the
briefcase was the nine-shot, .22 caliber revolver, serial number Y-13332
[*], salvaged from a muddy pond in Arkansas after 25 years. This is the gun
which was owned by Thane Eugene Cesar and which Charach believes is the
second gun used in the assassination. Sirhan's gun was an eight-shot,
Iver-Johnson Cadet, .22 caliber revolver, serial number H-53725.

This was the first public display of the gun since its recovery in 1993.
Carson announced that tests on the gun and test-firings will be made
sometime this year by independent forensic labs. He stated he had also been
approached by law enforcement agencies who expressed interest in test-firing
the gun using their own forensic experts. He hesitated to identify which law
enforcement agencies were interested.

We came away from the press conference believing ourselves more blessed for
the cursed heretic and despising evermore the beloved infidel.


[*] http://www.ctka.net/images/guntest.gif


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http://www.squidoo.com/thaneeugenecaesar

"Who Is Thane Eugene Cesar?" [pics of him]

In short, he's Robert F. Kennedy's assassin

Thane Eugene Cesar is the guy the mainstream media has told you about, in
connection with an audio recording of RFK's shooting that has been the focus
of recent legal and media attention, but for some reason, the mainstream
media has been unwilling to supply his name, even with the "cover your ass"
disclaimer which they are so fond of using: alleged.

They'll tell you what anyone who has honestly researched the case has known
all along from counting the bullet holes in the walls, door jambs and
ceiling: the tape has thirteen shots on it, while Sirhan's gun had the
potential to hold only eight rounds of ammunition!

They'll tell you what the L.A. coroner, Dr. Thomas Noguchi has said all
along, that RFK's wounds all came from behind, from closer than Sirhan EVER
got to RFK and from a position Sirhan was never in, in relation to Kennedy's
position.

And, of course, they'll tell you that "some say" a security guard, who was
carrying the correct caliber weapon and was directly behind Kennedy was the
probable shooter, but they won't tell you what anyone who has researched the
case has known all along, but I will tell you right here.

His name is Thane Eugene Cesar.

...

[many links, and videos follow]


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http://www.ctka.net/pr797-rfk.html
from the July-August 1997 issue (Vol. 4, No. 5)

"The Robert F. Kennedy Assassination: Sirhan Now Says: 'I Am Innocent' "
By Lisa Pease


On Wednesday, June 18, 1997, Sirhan Bishara Sirhan stunned a parole board by
declaring publicly that he now believes he is innocent of the crime for
which he is incarcerated: the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

On June 5th, 1968, RFK, the likely Democratic candidate for President,
having just won the California primary, was shot in the pantry in the
Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. He had just finished his victory speech and
was headed out when Sirhan stepped from the crowd, and said "Kennedy, you
son of a bitch." Sirhan extended his hand and fired shots at the oncoming
Senator. Kennedy fell to the floor and was taken to a hospital, where he
died a short time later.

Deputy District Attorney Thomas Trapp expressed outrage that Sirhan would
now dare to claim innocence, calling such a claim "preposterous." To someone
who does not know the case, such a claim seems preposterous indeed, in light
of the following facts:

* Sirhan was witnessed by many people shooting at RFK.

* An LAPD criminalist testified that the bullets found in the victims
matched test bullets fired from Sirhan's gun.

* Sirhan conceded having shot RFK and even provided his motive.


Taken out of context, these facts present a grossly misleading picture of
the case. Examined against the full record of the case, the following facts
emerge:

* RFK was shot at point-blank range from behind. Two shots entered his back
and a third shot entered directly behind RFK's right ear. By all eyewitness
accounts, Sirhan was never closer than one and a half feet to RFK. The bulk
of the witnesses put Sirhan at a distance of three feet or more. Sirhan was
firing a gun. But clearly, so was someone else.

* The criminalist who testified to the match between the bullets and the gun
had stored the bullets in an envelope labeled as belonging to the gun with a
serial number of H 18602. Sirhan's gun had a serial number of H 53725. The
tests showed conclusively that the victim bullets matched a gun that was not
Sirhan's.

* Sirhan has consistently, and credibly-even to the prosecution's
experts-asserted that he has no memory of the shooting. With no one to tell
him of the exculpatory ballistic and medical evidence, and no memory of
where he was and what he did, he believed those who told him he had killed
Kennedy, and took his lawyer's advice to own up to it at the trial. His
motive, however, never made sense.


The day after the murder, a leading Arab activist, Dr. Mohammad T. Mehdi,
issued a statement that Sirhan might have been motivated to attack RFK
because RFK had promised to sell bomber planes to Israel. On May 18th, in a
diary attributed to Sirhan are the words "RFK Must Die!" written over and
over. However, RFK's statement to sell the bombers was not shown on TV until
May 20th. So that could hardly have been Sirhan's motive. In court, during
his trial, Sirhan burst out that he had killed RFK "willfully,
premeditatively, with twenty years of malice aforethought." This was not
very compelling, however, since Sirhan was only 24 years old at that time of
the assassination. He would have had to be contemplating the murder of the
as yet little known Kennedy at the age of four! As he saw it, he had only a
couple of choices. Either he had killed Kennedy on purpose, or he had lost
his mind. Not wanting to believe the latter he embraced the former. And once
he believed that, together with his defense team he sought out a motive.
Confronted with the possibility that he was out of control or insane, Sirhan
replied, "I'd rather die and say I killed that son of a bitch for my
country, period [emphasis added]." But believing doesn't make it so, and the
evidence shows that Sirhan could not have fired the three shots that hit
Kennedy.

So we are left with the following. The gun was not matched to the victims'
bullets. Sirhan was never close enough to have shot Kennedy where he was
hit. And then there is the memory problem. After extensive hypnosis attempts
by both the prosecution and his defense, no one was able to find any
evidence of a suppressed memory there. He had an utter blank for the period
surrounding the shooting.

Either we have a case of many witnesses having a collective illusion that
Sirhan was not close enough, or a second shooter was in the pantry. Indeed,
there is evidence of well above the eight bullets Sirhan's gun was capable
of firing. This has been well documented in 'The Assassination of Robert F.
Kennedy' (by Bill Turner and Jon Christian, published by Random House in
1978 and later by Thunder's Mouth Press in 1993); 'The Robert F. Kennedy
Assassination' (by Philip Melanson, published by S.P.I. Books, 1994); and
the new book by William Klaber and Philip Melanson, based on newly released
files from the LAPD, called 'Shadow Play: The Murder of Robert F. Kennedy,
The Trial of Sirhan Sirhan, and the Failure of American Justice' (St. Martin's
Press, 1997).

If there were two (or even more) shooters and Sirhan was one of them, doesn't
that prove his guilt, regardless of whether he fired the fatal shot or not?
Yes, to some degree. But was he a witting conspirator?

Not necessarily.

Another possibility, voiced on the air even before Sirhan's name was made
public, was that the shooter was acting under the influence of hypnosis.

In Richard Condon's famous 1959 novel The Manchurian Candidate, the plot
centers around a man who was programmed under hypnosis to assassinate the
president of the United States. The man was not aware that he had been
programmed. While the novel was advertised as fiction, it bore a close
resemblance to the most secret of the CIA projects, the mind control
experiments held from the early '50's until the mid '70's.

Under names like Bluebird, then Artichoke (after a favorite vegetable of
Allen Dulles'), and finally MKULTRA, the CIA was avidly and amorally
experimenting on both witting and unwitting subjects with drugs, electric
shock, hypnotism, electrode implantation and other technologies in the
search for ways to completely control the actions of humans. Another area of
search was devoted to finding ways of creating perfect, if temporary,
amnesia so that an agent could perform a task and truly be able to have no
memory of it when questioned later. The Senate report on these experiments
showed the CIA felt this could be done through the administration of drugs.

...

How far did these experiments progress?


The rest of this article can be found in The Assassinations [*], edited by
Jim DiEugenio and Lisa Pease.


[*]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0922915822/qid=1027170992/sr=8-1/citizensfortruth


Related PROBE articles:

http://www.ctka.net/pr1196-rfk.html [Scott Enyart vs. The LAPD over RFK
Assassination Photos]

http://www.ctka.net/pr398-cbs.html [CBS and the RFK Assassination]

http://www.ctka.net/pr398-rfk.html [Sirhan and the RFK Assassination / Part
1: The Grand Illusion]

http://www.ctka.net/pr598-rfk.html [Sirhan and the RFK Assassination / Part
2: Rubrick's Cube]

http://www.ctka.net/pr598-mold.html [Dan Moldea and the RFK Assassination]

http://www.ctka.net/pr795-2gun.html [Thane Eugene Cesar's .22 Gun Found]
(2nd article from top)


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http://flag.blackened.net/daver/misc/rfk.html

"Simple Facts about the Robert F. Kennedy Assassination"


- Powder burns on Kennedy's clothing reveal that all three of his wounds
were from a gun fired from 0 to 1-1/2 inches away. And yet, all witnesses
claim that Sirhan's gun could not possibly have done this, for not one
person places Sirhan's gun that close, and according to the general
consensus Sirhan's gun never got closer than three feet away.

- Sirhan's gun could hold only eight bullets. And yet, seven bullets were
dug out of bodies. an eighth bullet was traced through two ceilings into
airspace, and two more bullets were identified as lodged in the door frame
of the pantry by both LAPD and FBI personnel (the fresh bullet holes were
even labeled as such on their photographs). Inexcusably, the door frames
were burned, the Los Angeles Police Dept. claimed no bullets were found
lodged in the "bullet holes", and two expended bullets (inexplicably dug out
of wood) were soon found in the front seat of Sirhan's car. The LAPD then
destroyed their records of the tests that had been done on the "bullet
holes" in the doorframe.

- Three bullets were found in Robert F. Kennedy, and a fourth grazed his
suit jacket. The upward angle of every shot was so steep as to be much
closer to straight up than horizontal (80 degrees). And yet, all witnesses
claim Sirhan's gun was completely horizontal for his first two shots, after
which his gun hand was repeatedly slammed against a stem table (and now so
far away from Kennedy that any errant shots of such upwardness would have
been twenty feet high before reaching Kennedy, as opposed to entering
Kennedy's backside as they did).

- The four bullets which touched Kennedy all hit on his back right side and
were traveling forward relative to his body. Kennedy was walking towards
Sirhan, his body was always facing Sirhan during the shots, and afterwards
he even fell backwards before saying his last lucid words, ("Is everyone all
right?") - at each and every moment facing toward Sirhan. It is impossible
for bullets out of Sirhan's gun to have hit Kennedy's backside and been
traveling forward unless Kennedy was almost entirely turned around.

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Obviously Sirhan shot at Kennedy, but it is clear someone else was firing
too. And once a second assassin is established, this adds far more than just
another lone individual to the murder gang (because of the way many powerful
branches of government instantly swung into action to protect the second
assassin). Indeed, any second assassin virtually proves that powerful
branches of U.S. Government were behind the murder itself - not only because
of their stiff resistance from the get go, but because of their ongoing,
coldly calculated, and otherwise inexplicable manipulation of evidence for
keeping Sirhan as the singular decoy/patsy.

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When a powerful branch of government commits such a murder, it only makes
sense if it's top people are involved (along with as many others as needed
in going downwards toward the more hands-on, lower chain of command). The
branches involved in the RFK assassination are at minimum the LAPD, FBI,
CIA, & Military Intelligence with deepest roots in the Pentagon. And if
indeed such a group coordinated the murder of the next President of the
United States, it is hard to imagine that other power centers of the U.S.
would have been dangerously left out of the decision as well: such power
hubs as the Federal Reserve (with it's control over money itself), the
largest media puppeteers, the controllers of oil, the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
and the outgoing and incoming Presidents. One can very rationally go further
and deduce that the most viciously aggressive foreign power hubs were also
(bondingly) involved in this age of New World Order global partnership (yet
as bystanders in terms of this very American murder).

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More to consider: On Jun 2, 1968, Sirhan was identified as entering
Kennedy's Campaign headquarters on Wilshire Blvd. Larry Strick asked Sirhan
if he needed help, and Sirhan pointed directly at Khaiber Khan and replied
"I'm with him." Khaiber Khan is pronounced "K(eye)ber" Khan - perhaps the
greatest world-wide secret agent at the time. Supposedly, when Sirhan
pointed at Khan, Khan was a brand new Kennedy volunteer worker, which lasted
June 1 - 4, a total of four days. In the extreme highest levels of the CIA,
Khaiber Khan was a very leading figure when the U.S. toppled the government
of Iran by taking out Iran's most powerful person (this was in 1953, when
Mossadegh was replaced by a more corrupt Shah of Iran). When questioned
about Sirhan, Khaiber Khan gave misleading responses that were more like
decoys. U.S. intelligence then quickly left him alone, concentrating instead
on inexplicability hounding innocent witnesses & tearing to shreds what they
simply saw.

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Thane Cesar was a security guard who was pressed up against Kennedy's back
right side and was holding Kennedy's right arm in his left hand as Sirhan
jumped out and fired his first two shots at Kennedy from several feet away.
Don Schulman, the only eyewitness to correctly see that Robert Kennedy had
sustained three bullet wounds, not two, saw this guard pull his gun and
ostensibly fire back at Sirhan, Thane Cesar's bow tie, knocked off and lying
near Bobbie Kennedy as he died, seems to have been in the exact spot where
the gun needed to be located that delivered the fatal bullet moving up and
forward into Kennedy's brain: pressed up tight to Kennedy's back right side,
and neck high. Thane Cesar owned a .22 (the caliber of Sirhan's gun), but
said he sold it before the assassination. Then he said he sold it after the
assassination. Then the gun was stolen from the new owner.

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Immediately following the assassination, a police All Points Bulletin was
put out for a shapely, well-built woman in a polka dot dress (and the man
with her) - based on a married couple who reported them fleeing the scene,
the female suspect with a smile on her face, and who excitedly stated "We
shot him." The APB was quickly canceled by the highest echelons of the LAPD,
and all information taken down about these eye witnesses disappeared (one
can only imagine if the witnesses themselves soon disappeared). Sandra
Serrano was on the back stairs at assassination time. She saw Sirhan walk up
the stairs with a polka dot woman and another man, and later saw the polka
dot woman & man coming down the stairs alone and the woman saying "We shot
him!" However, Captain Lynch would later claim he was on the back stairs at
the time and that no one was there (and thus Sandra Serrano is a liar and an
un-credible witness in the eyes of U.S. intelligence.) Even so, a remarkable
number of people still claim that a polka dot woman "appeared to be with
Sirhan " just prior to the assassination.

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On June 4, the day leading up to the just-after-midnight assassination,
Sirhan signed in at a firing range and was soon accompanied by a man and a
shapely well built woman, according to the range master of the gun club.
What a lead!, for not only did they share the a gun and a rifle between
them, but the range master distinctly heard the woman say to Sirhan "Goddamn
you, you son of a bitch, get out of here or they'll recognize us" (as Sirhan
helped her with her gun). Later, in what seems like a case of imposters
following orders, a topless bar waitress would voluntarily come forward and
provide a thoroughly discredited explanation: she and her husband had
innocently met Sirhan at the range and traded weapons between 4 & 5 o'clock.
But this contradicted the reports of the 37 other gun club witnesses, and
who indicate the coupled pegged to Sirhan arrived just after 11:00 AM and
were not at the range between 4 and 5. Without this crucial explanation by
the topless bar waitress, logical common sense would tell us a wider
assassination network was involved (solely based on "firing range facts",
let alone others such as: the teamwork between Khaiber Khan & and Sirhan;
the obvious and instant sabotage (on all fronts) by U.S. Intelligence and
the LAPD; Sandra Serrano's unmistakable accounts of close teamwork between
Sirhan and the Polka Dot Woman/& man; the one-inch-away powder burns; the
number of bullets; the upward angle of the bullets; the forward movement of
the bullets in Kennedy's body). Take note that the topless bar waitress was
familiar with many LAPD officers. Because the topless bar waitress came
forward voluntarily, she most assuredly is not the real polka dot woman who
was in different attire at the firing range, for no assassin network of this
magnitude would offer up faces that must stay hidden merely for the sake of
gaining a flimsy excuse. It's clear the topless bar waitress is a decoy
(probably having no direct links to the polka dot woman at the range), but
still a spectacular lead toward links with other levels of the assassination
network. And finally, the range master was fired on June 16, and as usual,
U.S. intelligence then focused it's power on destroying the crucial witness,
as opposed to pursuing leads.

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Sirhan thinks that he acted alone, and yet what Sirhan "thinks" isn't
important at all if an additional assassin network was in place. Priority
attention should be on the assassination network, not on some of Sirhan's
most bizarre mental states. But let's look at the fascinating area of
Sirhan's mind nonetheless. He cannot remember the assassination at all. It's
as if a segment of memory was entirely erased. Until after the shooting the
last thing he remembers is having coffee with a woman. He also wrote about
killing RFK in trance-like states called automatic writing. Interestingly,
all of the trance-like states are a group of memory segments that are
entirely erased as well - even under hypnosis, he can't remember a thing
about them.

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As a jockey, Sirhan received a head injury in 1966, and as a result may have
become one of the most deeply hypnotizable people in the world. An
interesting theory is that the CIA found this out when Sirhan later explored
many "mind control" groups, and that the CIA also tested this possible
"hypno-patsy" beforehand as to the depth they could erase his memories.

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In 1968, 400 pound Bill Bryan was said to be the "evil genius" of hypnotism,
the most powerful person in his field. Supposedly "hypno-seducing" up to a
dozen women a day and also working for the CIA, he bragged that the Boston
Strangler & Sirhan were amongst his clients. Combining special drugs and
hypnotism, would it be possible to implant the Strangler's unshakable fits
of killing obsession so as to cause a triggered fit in someone else? Indeed,
in Sirhan's automatic trance-writing that he can't remember, he repetitively
wrote "Pay to the order of one hundred thousand dollars" and "My
determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more the more of an unshakable
obsession" and "Salvo Di De Salvo Die S Salvo" (Albert Di Salvo, the Boston
Strangler). But no matter what the causes of Sirhan's trances and erased
segments of memory, and despite his claims that he acted alone, the evidence
of his teamwork with Khaiber Khan and the Polka Dot Woman, along with the
overwhelming certainty of another gun pumping the fatal shots into Robert F.
Kennedy from behind, prove that Sirhan did not act alone, and played the
decoy patsy for an assassination network that clearly extends to the very
heights of U.S. power.

mcent...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2016, 11:19:19 PM3/21/16
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Why is Ceasar living overseas?
GUILTY OF RFK's MURDER THAT'S WHY!!!!

richard...@gmail.com

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May 7, 2018, 6:46:46 PM5/7/18
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And WHY is the well-known, published photo of THANE EUGENE CESAR shown holding his UNholstered (but NOT smoking gun)and MISSING his uniform tie OMITTED from Internet picture collections??

And WHY has the FBI NOT pursued apprehending him as a reasonable suspect???

And WHY did I have to waste time deleting the entire text of the article from the posting box before I could type this????

One answer: CONSPIRACY!!!

Jason Burke

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May 7, 2018, 11:31:28 PM5/7/18
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Oh goody. Another tin-foil hat dumbfuck.

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