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Ben Holmes
May 11, 2022, 11:47:34 AM5/11/22
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Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
*********************************************
Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
JFK case were nothing but "human error":
1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
thinking about it first.
2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
for quite some time.
3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
chain of custody.
6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
rear of JFK's head.
7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
TSBD along with a whole bullet.
8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
limo.
9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
Oswald's arrest in the theater.
10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
the theater.
11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
street much less a national leader.
12) The entire Warren Report.
13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
magazine.
17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
"human error." One wonders if humans can do anything right after
looking at this case through the human error prism.
*********************************************
*********************************************
Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
JFK case were nothing but "human error":
1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
thinking about it first.
2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
for quite some time.
3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
chain of custody.
6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
rear of JFK's head.
7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
TSBD along with a whole bullet.
8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
limo.
9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
Oswald's arrest in the theater.
10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
the theater.
11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
street much less a national leader.
12) The entire Warren Report.
13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
magazine.
17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
"human error." One wonders if humans can do anything right after
looking at this case through the human error prism.
*********************************************
Bud
May 11, 2022, 5:16:40 PM5/11/22
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Ben Holmes
May 11, 2022, 5:22:53 PM5/11/22
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On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
Shifting the burden. Run coward... RUN!
Look behind, you should see a pink tutu folloiwng behind you...
wrote:
Look behind, you should see a pink tutu folloiwng behind you...
Bud
May 11, 2022, 5:25:44 PM5/11/22
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> Run coward... RUN!
I`ll go back and swat them, it looks easy enough.
Bud
May 11, 2022, 5:46:38 PM5/11/22
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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>
> *********************************************
> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>
> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> thinking about it first.
Show this protocol.
>
> *********************************************
> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>
> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> thinking about it first.
Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
> for quite some time.
> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
> chain of custody.
> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
> rear of JFK's head.
> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
> limo.
> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
> 10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
> the theater.
> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
> street much less a national leader.
> 12) The entire Warren Report.
> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
> magazine.
> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
> 20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
> And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
> "human error."
>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
> looking at this case through the human error prism.
> *********************************************
Ben Holmes
May 16, 2022, 1:52:04 PM5/16/22
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On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:25:43 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
Been there, done that, you ran.
>> Run coward... RUN!
>
> I`ll go back and swat them, it looks easy enough.
Chrissy points out that this would count as assault.
>> Look behind, you should see a pink tutu folloiwng behind you...
Did you?
>> Run coward... RUN!
>
> I`ll go back and swat them, it looks easy enough.
>> Look behind, you should see a pink tutu folloiwng behind you...
Ben Holmes
May 16, 2022, 1:52:30 PM5/16/22
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On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>
>> *********************************************
>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>
>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>> thinking about it first.
>
> Show this protocol.
No.
> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
Logical fallacy.
>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>> for quite some time.
>
> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano
> being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
Yes.
>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>
> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were
> fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
Logical fallacy.
>> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
>
> What about it?
You don't know???
>> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
>> chain of custody.
>
> Show that initials were necessary to establish chain of custody in
> Dallas at this time.
Cite for your claim... You won't, of course...
>> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
>> rear of JFK's head.
>
> Is that what they all said?
Quote what they said...
>> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
>> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
>
> Photos show three empty shells. Nothing more reasonable than
> "mistake" seems a possibility here.
Lie and say you don't know about the photo showing *TWO* empty shells.
A lie seems a distinct possiblity here.
>> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
>> limo.
LFD.
>> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
>> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
LFD.
>> 10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
>> the theater.
>
> Such a report would be mistaken. Surely no more reasonable explanation exists.
You'd surely be wrong.
>> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
>> street much less a national leader.
LFD.
>> 12) The entire Warren Report.
>
> Their finding were the only reasonable ones to come to.
Reasonable to whom?
>> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
>
> Empty claim.
A proven fact. Shall we prove it again?
>> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
>> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
>> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
>
> An old lie.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
Yes indeed... it was *YOUR* old lie. Nothing stated in #14 is
incorrect.
>> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
>
> That certainly wasn`t Oswald in the photo.
Good of you to agree with the truth.
>> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
>> magazine.
>
> A mistake seem the most reasonable possibility
Is that what you think?
>> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
>> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
>
> The person who said that was clearly mistaken.
Is that what you think?
>> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
>> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
>
> The head was a mess, making some precise determinations difficult.
The sole evidence was the same.
You lose!
>> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
>> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>> 20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>> And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
>> "human error."
>
> Only a few of these things are truly human error.
Is that what you think?
>>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
>> looking at this case through the human error prism.
LFD.
>> *********************************************
wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>
>> *********************************************
>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>
>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>> thinking about it first.
>
> Show this protocol.
> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>> for quite some time.
>
> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano
> being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>
> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were
> fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
>> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
>
> What about it?
>> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
>> chain of custody.
>
> Show that initials were necessary to establish chain of custody in
> Dallas at this time.
>> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
>> rear of JFK's head.
>
> Is that what they all said?
>> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
>> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
>
> Photos show three empty shells. Nothing more reasonable than
> "mistake" seems a possibility here.
A lie seems a distinct possiblity here.
>> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
>> limo.
>> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
>> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
>> 10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
>> the theater.
>
> Such a report would be mistaken. Surely no more reasonable explanation exists.
>> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
>> street much less a national leader.
>> 12) The entire Warren Report.
>
> Their finding were the only reasonable ones to come to.
>> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
>
> Empty claim.
>> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
>> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
>> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
>
> An old lie.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
incorrect.
>> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
>
> That certainly wasn`t Oswald in the photo.
>> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
>> magazine.
>
> A mistake seem the most reasonable possibility
>> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
>> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
>
> The person who said that was clearly mistaken.
>> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
>> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
>
> The head was a mess, making some precise determinations difficult.
You lose!
>> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
>> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
>> 20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
>> And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
>> "human error."
>
> Only a few of these things are truly human error.
>>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
>> looking at this case through the human error prism.
>> *********************************************
Bud
May 16, 2022, 8:27:46 PM5/16/22
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On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:52:30 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
> >>
> >> *********************************************
> >> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> >> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
> >>
> >> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> >> thinking about it first.
> >
> > Show this protocol.
> No.
Then there is no reason to believe it exists.
> On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
> >>
> >> *********************************************
> >> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> >> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
> >>
> >> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> >> thinking about it first.
> >
> > Show this protocol.
> No.
> > Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
> Logical fallacy.
> >> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
> >> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
> >> for quite some time.
> >
> > I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano
> > being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
> Yes.
> >> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
> >> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
> >
> > Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were
> > fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
> Logical fallacy.
> >> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
> >
> > What about it?
> You don't know???
> >> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
> >> chain of custody.
> >
> > Show that initials were necessary to establish chain of custody in
> > Dallas at this time.
> Cite for your claim...
> You won't, of course...
> >> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
> >> rear of JFK's head.
> >
> > Is that what they all said?
> Quote what they said...
> >> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
> >> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
> >
> > Photos show three empty shells. Nothing more reasonable than
> > "mistake" seems a possibility here.
> Lie and say you don't know about the photo showing *TWO* empty shells.
I have seen photos only showing certain portions of the TSBD, I don`t presume that the portions not shown didn`t exist when the photo was taken.
> A lie seems a distinct possiblity here.
> >> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
> >> limo.
> LFD.
> >> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
> >> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
> LFD.
"People often relate events differently when they retell them."
> >> 10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
> >> the theater.
> >
> > Such a report would be mistaken. Surely no more reasonable explanation exists.
> You'd surely be wrong.
> >> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
> >> street much less a national leader.
> LFD.
> >> 12) The entire Warren Report.
> >
> > Their finding were the only reasonable ones to come to.
> Reasonable to whom?
> >> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
> >
> > Empty claim.
> A proven fact. Shall we prove it again?
> >> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
> >> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
> >> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
> >
> > An old lie.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
> Yes indeed... it was *YOUR* old lie. Nothing stated in #14 is
> incorrect.
> >> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
> >
> > That certainly wasn`t Oswald in the photo.
> Good of you to agree with the truth.
> >> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
> >> magazine.
> >
> > A mistake seem the most reasonable possibility
> Is that what you think?
> >> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
> >> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
> >
> > The person who said that was clearly mistaken.
> Is that what you think?
> >> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
> >> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
> >
> > The head was a mess, making some precise determinations difficult.
> The sole evidence was the same.
> You lose!
> >> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
> >> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
> >> 20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
> >> And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
> >> "human error."
> >
> > Only a few of these things are truly human error.
> Is that what you think?
> >>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
> >> looking at this case through the human error prism.
> LFD.
> >> *********************************************
Gil Jesus
May 18, 2022, 9:19:34 AM5/18/22
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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>
> *********************************************
> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>
> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> thinking about it first.
Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>
> *********************************************
> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>
> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> thinking about it first.
For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
Ben Holmes
May 18, 2022, 9:41:39 AM5/18/22
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And one that will never be credibly answered...
Bud
May 18, 2022, 2:32:36 PM5/18/22
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Bud
May 18, 2022, 2:33:10 PM5/18/22
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Gil Jesus
May 18, 2022, 2:48:09 PM5/18/22
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What's the problem ?
Ben Holmes
May 18, 2022, 2:51:59 PM5/18/22
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On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
*THAT* fact tells the tale. A tale of hypocrisy.
<gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>
>>>> *********************************************
>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>
>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>> thinking about it first.
>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>
>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>
>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>
>> Make your arguments here.
>
>All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>What's the problem ?
It's **NEVER** a problem when Davey Von Peiny does it.
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>
>>>> *********************************************
>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>
>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>> thinking about it first.
>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>
>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>
>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>
>> Make your arguments here.
>
>All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>What's the problem ?
*THAT* fact tells the tale. A tale of hypocrisy.
Bud
May 18, 2022, 3:04:19 PM5/18/22
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Now, if you want to say "so-and-so" lied under oath and this link supports my contention I might (although it would be helpful if you quoted the portion that supported your contention here).
Bud
May 18, 2022, 3:05:33 PM5/18/22
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Hank Sienzant
May 24, 2022, 6:43:32 AM5/24/22
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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:46:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
> >
> > *********************************************
> > Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> > JFK case were nothing but "human error":
> >
> > 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> > thinking about it first.
> Show this protocol.
>
> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
> > 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
> > official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
> > for quite some time.
> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
> > 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
> > the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
Yeah, this is one of those silly arguments raised by conspiracy authors that go nowhere and show a total lack of understanding of police procedures. I believe Sylvia Meagher was the first conspiracy theorist to raise this issue. The assassin was known to be armed with at least one weapon. Presumably, critics think the assassin would remain there awaiting the arrival of the police, or that the police should secure the crime scene *before* ensuring the building was safe. While Officer Baker was intent on reaching the roof where he thought the shots came from and hurried there (intercepting Oswald on the way and letting him go), other officers proceeded at a more circumspect pace, knowing the assassin could be anywhere in the building waiting to ambush any policeman.
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
> >
> > *********************************************
> > Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
> > JFK case were nothing but "human error":
> >
> > 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
> > thinking about it first.
> Show this protocol.
>
> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
> > 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
> > official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
> > for quite some time.
> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
> > 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
> > the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
Note Ben does not even suggest what was wrong with taking a half hour to get to the sniper’s nest, nor will he offer an opposing scenario suggesting how long it should have taken, nor explain why the police’s priority should have been to get to the sniper’s nest. Nor will he cite any “lone nutter” ever claiming it was a mistake for the police to take a half-hour to reach the sniper’s nest. Nor will he explain why he put the sniper’s nest in quotes, as if questioning that. As he admitted, multiple witnesses pointed out that location of the gunman to the police.
Ben Holmes
Jun 3, 2022, 10:52:33 AM6/3/22
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On Tue, 24 May 2022 03:43:31 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:46:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>
>>> *********************************************
>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>
>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>> thinking about it first.
>> Show this protocol.
>>
>> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
>>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>>> for quite some time.
>> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
>>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
>
> Yeah, this is one of those silly arguments raised by conspiracy
> authors that go nowhere and show a total lack of understanding of
> police procedures.
An empty claim you'll refuse to support, meaning, according to
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:46:38 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>
>>> *********************************************
>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>
>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>> thinking about it first.
>> Show this protocol.
>>
>> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
>>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>>> for quite some time.
>> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
>>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
>
> Yeah, this is one of those silly arguments raised by conspiracy
> authors that go nowhere and show a total lack of understanding of
> police procedures.
Chickenshit, that you're a dumbass.
>Note Ben...
Clearly, you didn't bother to read what you're responding to. How
STUPID of you!
Ben didn't butcher anything... indeed, *YOU* provably did.
Moron or illiterate, which is it?
Hank Sienzant
Jun 3, 2022, 8:32:09 PM6/3/22
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https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/ZLE4HTo9UoM/m/k-5wFX9ZAAAJ
== quote ==
3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
Because the police don't attempt to secure the scene and search for the shooter floor by floor and room by room. They should have no regard for their personal safety and just rush to the shooting location willy-nilly, assuming the assassin is still there. Baker did that, along with the civilian Truly, in rushing to the roof. What if the assassin was descending the stairs with the weapon and shot them both?
> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
== unquote ==
>
>
> >Note Ben...
>
> Clearly, you didn't bother to read what you're responding to. How
> STUPID of you!
Note Ben deleted my point and called me names.
>
> >Note Ben...
>
> Clearly, you didn't bother to read what you're responding to. How
> STUPID of you!
>
> Moron or illiterate, which is it?
Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:21 AM6/10/22
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 17:32:08 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
You cannot lie, and hope to convince people.
Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:42 AM6/10/22
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On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:33:09 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
Once again, Chickenshit is simply lying. The proof is quite simple,
Chickenshit cannot name a *SINGLE* question that critics post that is
**NOT**, according to him, a "loaded question."
**ANYTHING** that addresses the evidence in this case is "loaded" to
him... and that fact tells the tale.
wrote:
Chickenshit cannot name a *SINGLE* question that critics post that is
**NOT**, according to him, a "loaded question."
**ANYTHING** that addresses the evidence in this case is "loaded" to
him... and that fact tells the tale.
Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:42 AM6/10/22
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Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:43 AM6/10/22
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On Wed, 18 May 2022 12:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:48:09 PM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>>
>>>>> *********************************************
>>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>>
>>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>>
>>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>> Make your arguments here.
>> All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>> What's the problem ?
>
> No problem at all.
Then stop crying about it.
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:48:09 PM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>>
>>>>> *********************************************
>>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>>
>>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>>
>>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>> Make your arguments here.
>> All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>> What's the problem ?
>
> No problem at all.
Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:43 AM6/10/22
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On Wed, 18 May 2022 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
Lie again, and claim that Pieny doesn't post a link as his sole
statement in a post.
wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:51:59 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
>> <gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *********************************************
>>>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>>>
>>>> Make your arguments here.
>>>
>>>All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>>>What's the problem ?
>>
>> It's **NEVER** a problem when Davey Von Peiny does it.
>
> Show that DVP does what Gil just did.
No.
>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:51:59 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT), Gil Jesus
>> <gjjma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *********************************************
>>>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>>> Let me stick my 2 cents in on this subject:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the Nutters, does "human error" include lying under oath ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1432/limo-agents
>>>>
>>>> Make your arguments here.
>>>
>>>All I'm doing is posting links like you do.
>>>What's the problem ?
>>
>> It's **NEVER** a problem when Davey Von Peiny does it.
>
> Show that DVP does what Gil just did.
Lie again, and claim that Pieny doesn't post a link as his sole
statement in a post.
Ben Holmes
Jun 10, 2022, 10:51:45 AM6/10/22
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On Mon, 16 May 2022 17:27:45 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
>>
>> Logical fallacy.
>
> Application of your idea that he should accelerate without
> thinking. What if it is a motorcycle backfire?
Explaining a logical fallacy doesn't change it into a valid argument.
>>>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>>>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>>>> for quite some time.
>>>
>>> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano
>>> being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Put it out there, let us see what you think passes for reasonable.
No.
>>>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>>>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>>>
>>> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were
>>> fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
>>
>> Logical fallacy.
>
> Reasoning. Locating the shooter would be more important than
> locating where the shots originated from.
Explaining a logical fallacy doesn't change it into a valid argument.
>>>> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
>>>
>>> What about it?
>>
>> You don't know???
>
> No idea. Spell out this idea of yours.
No. Laughing at your ignorance is all I need do...
>>>> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
>>>> chain of custody.
>>>
>>> Show that initials were necessary to establish chain of custody in
>>> Dallas at this time.
>>
>> Cite for your claim...
>
> So the idea that initials were necessary can be discarded as lacking support.
Couldn't cite for your idea. That says it all.
>> You won't, of course...
And I was, as usual, right again.
>>>> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
>>>> rear of JFK's head.
>>>
>>> Is that what they all said?
>>
>> Quote what they said...
>
> You are the one making claims about what they said.
Couldn't do it. As expected.
>>>> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
>>>> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
>>>
>>> Photos show three empty shells. Nothing more reasonable than
>>> "mistake" seems a possibility here.
>>
>> Lie and say you don't know about the photo showing *TWO* empty shells.
>
> Don`t know what you are talking about.
Looks like you're willing to lie.
http://whokilledjfk.net/only_2_shells_found.htm
>>>> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
>>>> limo.
>>
>> LFD.
>
> My ability to reason frightens you, doesn`t it?
Your ability to post logical fallacies comes close to Huckster.
>>>> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
>>>> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
>>
>> LFD.
>
>>>> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
>>>> street much less a national leader.
>> LFD.
>>>> 12) The entire Warren Report.
>>>
>>> Their finding were the only reasonable ones to come to.
>>
>> Reasonable to whom?
>
> Reasonable people aware of the facts, of course.
Then you lose. Because it's crystal clear that there are *MANY*
reasonable people knowledgeable of the WC who don't believe it.
>>>> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
>>>
>>> Empty claim.
>>
>> A proven fact. Shall we prove it again?
>
> Try once.
Already did:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/qMPnq1U9AHU/m/7SU5R5eOBAAJ
>>>> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
>>>> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
>>>> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
>>>
>>> An old lie.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
>>
>> Yes indeed... it was *YOUR* old lie. Nothing stated in #14 is
>> incorrect.
>
> You are still telling the same lie, they were drafting a request,
> they hadn`t sought the records.
You're lying again.
You *may* even believe your lie.
>>>> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
>>>
>>> That certainly wasn`t Oswald in the photo.
>> Good of you to agree with the truth.
>>>> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
>>>> magazine.
>>>
>>> A mistake seem the most reasonable possibility
>> Is that what you think?
>
> What is more reasonable?
No need to explain it to you. Lurkers can see it.
>>>> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
>>>> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
>>>
>>> The person who said that was clearly mistaken.
>> Is that what you think?
>
> What is more reasonable?
Ditto.
>>>> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
>>>> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
>>>
>>> The head was a mess, making some precise determinations difficult.
>> The sole evidence was the same.
>
> And it was a mess.
You have only *ONE* source.
>> You lose!
And indeed you did.
>>>> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
>>>> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
>>
>> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>>
>>>>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
>>>> looking at this case through the human error prism.
>> LFD.
>>>> *********************************************
wrote:
>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:52:30 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>
>>>> *********************************************
>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>
>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>
>>> Show this protocol.
>>
>> No.
>
> Then there is no reason to believe it exists.
Only to a moron.
>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:52:30 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 May 2022 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> Another golden oldie from my archives... Garry schools believers:
>>>>
>>>> *********************************************
>>>> Let's list a few cases where the LNers claim that mistakes made in the
>>>> JFK case were nothing but "human error":
>>>>
>>>> 1) Greer slowing the limo when protocol requires acceleration without
>>>> thinking about it first.
>>>
>>> Show this protocol.
>>
>> No.
>
> Then there is no reason to believe it exists.
>>> Should he hit the accelerator every time a motorcycle backfires?
>>
>> Logical fallacy.
>
> Application of your idea that he should accelerate without
> thinking. What if it is a motorcycle backfire?
>>>> 2) The DPD announcing a Mauser had been found, officers submitting two
>>>> official reports to that effect, and the "mistake" not acknowledged
>>>> for quite some time.
>>>
>>> I can`t think of any more reasonable explanation than the Carcano
>>> being mistaken for a Mauser, can you?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Put it out there, let us see what you think passes for reasonable.
>>>> 3) The "sniper's nest" not being found for over thirty minutes after
>>>> the DPD being informed exactly where it was by two witnesses.
>>>
>>> Unless the shooter stayed put finding the location the shots were
>>> fired from wouldn`t be the greatest priority.
>>
>> Logical fallacy.
>
> Reasoning. Locating the shooter would be more important than
> locating where the shots originated from.
>>>> 4) Capt. Fritz's behavior in Jack Ruby's shooting of Oswald.
>>>
>>> What about it?
>>
>> You don't know???
>
> No idea. Spell out this idea of yours.
>>>> 5) The several shells not bearing the initials needed to establish a
>>>> chain of custody.
>>>
>>> Show that initials were necessary to establish chain of custody in
>>> Dallas at this time.
>>
>> Cite for your claim...
>
> So the idea that initials were necessary can be discarded as lacking support.
>> You won't, of course...
>>>> 6) The many medical professionals who saw a large, gaping wound in the
>>>> rear of JFK's head.
>>>
>>> Is that what they all said?
>>
>> Quote what they said...
>
> You are the one making claims about what they said.
>>>> 7) The initial police reports that state TWO shells were found in the
>>>> TSBD along with a whole bullet.
>>>
>>> Photos show three empty shells. Nothing more reasonable than
>>> "mistake" seems a possibility here.
>>
>> Lie and say you don't know about the photo showing *TWO* empty shells.
>
> Don`t know what you are talking about.
http://whokilledjfk.net/only_2_shells_found.htm
>>>> 8) The lack of rear bumper and side motorcycle protection for JFK's
>>>> limo.
>>
>> LFD.
>
> My ability to reason frightens you, doesn`t it?
>>>> 9) The several conflicting stories told by Officer McDonald concerning
>>>> Oswald's arrest in the theater.
>>
>> LFD.
>
>>>> 10) The arrest report that states Oswald was found in the balcony of
>>>> the theater.
>>>
>>> Such a report would be mistaken. Surely no more reasonable explanation exists.
>>
>> You'd surely be wrong.
>
> Let`s hear your more reasonable explanation.
No.
>>>> the theater.
>>>
>>> Such a report would be mistaken. Surely no more reasonable explanation exists.
>>
>> You'd surely be wrong.
>
> Let`s hear your more reasonable explanation.
>>>> 11) An autopsy that would not have served a bum found dead on the
>>>> street much less a national leader.
>> LFD.
>>>> 12) The entire Warren Report.
>>>
>>> Their finding were the only reasonable ones to come to.
>>
>> Reasonable to whom?
>
> Reasonable people aware of the facts, of course.
reasonable people knowledgeable of the WC who don't believe it.
>>>> 13) The lies told by Vincent Bugliosi.
>>>
>>> Empty claim.
>>
>> A proven fact. Shall we prove it again?
>
> Try once.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/qMPnq1U9AHU/m/7SU5R5eOBAAJ
>>>> 14) The Secret Service destruction of documents concerning JFK
>>>> motorcades in the months prior to Dallas, and the destruction
>>>> occurring AFTER the ARRB sought those records.
>>>
>>> An old lie.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YAoRb_xDZcw/m/Y5IBLN6cAgAJ
>>
>> Yes indeed... it was *YOUR* old lie. Nothing stated in #14 is
>> incorrect.
>
> You are still telling the same lie, they were drafting a request,
> they hadn`t sought the records.
You *may* even believe your lie.
>>>> 15) The CIA identification of Oswald in Mexico City.
>>>
>>> That certainly wasn`t Oswald in the photo.
>> Good of you to agree with the truth.
>>>> 16) The switching of the order of Zapruder frames published in LIFE
>>>> magazine.
>>>
>>> A mistake seem the most reasonable possibility
>> Is that what you think?
>
> What is more reasonable?
>>>> 17) The determination, after a viewing of the Zapruder film, that JFK
>>>> had turned so that his throat was exposed to the 6th floor window.
>>>
>>> The person who said that was clearly mistaken.
>> Is that what you think?
>
> What is more reasonable?
>>>> 18) The many different locations of the head wound, as determined by
>>>> several official panels, each of which disagreed with the others.
>>>
>>> The head was a mess, making some precise determinations difficult.
>> The sole evidence was the same.
>
> And it was a mess.
>> You lose!
And indeed you did.
>>>> 19) The medical personnel's determination of the location of JFK's
>>>> back wound, fortunately corrected by medical expert Gerald Ford.
>>
>> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>>
>>>> 20) The lack of provenance for CE399.
>>
>> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>>
>>
>> Chickenshit's speculation removed.
>>
>>>> And this is just for starters. This case was apparently nothing BUT
>>>> "human error."
>>>
>>> Only a few of these things are truly human error.
>>
>> Is that what you think?
>
> Of course.
Willing to lie...
>>>> "human error."
>>>
>>> Only a few of these things are truly human error.
>>
>> Is that what you think?
>
> Of course.
>>>>One wonders if humans can do anything right after
>>>> looking at this case through the human error prism.
>> LFD.
Hank Sienzant
Jun 11, 2022, 4:42:27 PM6/11/22
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Ben Holmes
Jun 27, 2022, 10:57:03 AM6/27/22
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
Which logical fallacy is that, Huckster?
Can you be honest enough to answer?
Or coward enough to run again?
(I predict the latter...)
Can you be honest enough to answer?
Or coward enough to run again?
(I predict the latter...)
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