McAdams protecting Barb...again
jfk...@gmail.com
.John
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, jfk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 1:00 pm, Steve Thomas <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote:
On Apr 30, 12:20 am, jfk2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 28, 9:27 pm, Rudy Lasparri <Rudy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Shackelford wrote:
from J: Other researchers have talked to Dr. Mirand, who said the
dismissal was because of violating a housing regulation (on Aug.
25th).
Here is my statement concerning these matters:
Statement by Judyth Vary Baker, April 26, 2008
The Indiana Biological Association was an organization of doctors and
scientists in Indianapolis organized for the purpose of attracting
young
scientists to study the biological sciences in Indiana. This was my
home
state, so I was included in their lobbying efforts. They met me at the
International Science and Engineering Fair in Indianapolis and helped
put
together a scholarship package for me.
I next met with members of that association at Notre Dame University,
at
the beginning of the second week of October, 1961, where I presented
my
paper on melanogenesis, at their invitation. My aunt drove me there,
as
she lived nearby. She drove me back to St. Francis the next day. My
family in that area -- cousins-- still remember my one-day visit
there.
The association had contacted Mrs. Georgia Watkins of the Florida ACS,
and
local newspapers, on October 5, 1961, a few ays earlier, as it was
considered good publicity for the American Cancer Society. Articles
about
the paper to be presented to the association reached the papers on the
6th. The doctors then contacted st. Francis and recommended my
attendance
at the Academy of Science conference at Terre Haute. St. Francis was
given
funds to drive me up to Terre Haute: three nuns did so. This is the
conference where a researcher found a record of the paper --- the
second
time, not the first time -- that it was presented, in mid-October.
Mrs. Georgia Watkins referred to the IBA meeting in a newspaper
article
dated October 6, and to my presentation of a paper to that
organization in
a letter to me a week later, whereas this second presentation was held
at
in mid-October. At that time, Sister Claire was a co-presenter
because I
had established my lab at St. Francis only six weeks earlier, and she
had
vetted my new work. The title of the paper I presented at the Academy
bespeaks of the advanced level of my work, which even after forty-five
years would be impossible for a layman to understand. I presented
every
word of it personally.
I previously didn't mention the Terre Haute experience because I
couldn't
remember enough details, and had no documents to prove it. This was
because that same day, after hours of discussion with the three nuns
while
on the long car trip to and from Terre Haute, I agreed to become a
nun,
and this decision overwhelmed memories of the conference experience
there.
Two weeks later, my parents, upset over my decision, removed me at
midnight on October 31st, in their haste taking a room-mate's clothes,
and
leaving behind all my money, documents, papers, and the precious
melanoma
cancer cells, and SV40 virus cultures I'd been working on. My parents
refused mail contact with St. Francis, and I was unable to get the
paper
published: in the journal, for publication wasn't guaranteed until it
was
submitted for reviews, but that was now impossible.
In 1999, I tried to locate the paper without success, and thank Barb
J.
for finding a record of its presentation, actually the second time it
was
presented. I also learned in 1999 that the Indiana Biological
Association
was no longer in existence, or had changed its name. Created to
attract
biology students to Indiana, most likely it would be called a lobby
today.
One of its members was a scientist from Eli Lilly's at Fort Wayne,
Indiana. I had already given his name to researchers previously, as
supporting my research while at St. rancis College.
As to Dr. Mirand's statement that I was dismissed from the Roswell
summer
program due to a housing violation, Dr. Moore intervened, and I was
kept
on, without a word. I never saw nor signed any dismissal papers.
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And yet 45+ years ago there still are records of the dismissal!
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Interesting that a furor of controversy and probably envy surrounded
Judyth for that long as well.
What "controversy" and what "envy?" Can you be specific?
First of all, we have Barb taking on a mission to try to 'get'
Judyth. What do you think is motivating this campaign? Judyth is
documented to have induced cancer in mice as a teenager. Barb hates
to be reminded of that. Why? Barb seems to dabble in the medical
field herself, but probably has nowhere near the credentials Judyth
does. Barb likes to position herself as knowing more about medical
practice and technique than Judyth. Haven't you noticed? So let's
include this as an example of envy and controversy we are dealing with
in the present.
Barb has dug into Judyth's past with the hopes of finding some dirt;
something, anything that will stick. She managed to find someone who
attended RP at the same time as Judyth. This person has told Barb a
rumour based on their impressions in 1961. This person told Barb
Judyth was 'dismissed', and Barb ran with it. It was incorrect. But
even 40+ years later it meant enough to this person not only to
remember Judyth but to want to cause distress to her accomplishments
at RP, and enough for Barb to run with it. Why? Envy.