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John Corbett
Jun 10, 2021, 9:10:14 PM6/10/21
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Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame. There was one thread devoted to the impossibility that Oswald could have fired two shots as close together as the premise indicated was the case. Of course faulty premises will lead to faulty conclusions. Given the arguments being made, I thought for a second I had stepped back into the 1990s. Same old shit that was being flung when I first started participating in online discussion groups in the early 1990s. This speaks to what I said in the thread regarding 57 years of futility. The CT train is going nowhere. They will be keep making the same baseless arguments for another 57 years or until they assume room temperature, whichever comes first.
Airline Seat 19efppp
Jun 10, 2021, 9:51:59 PM6/10/21
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On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame. There was one thread devoted to the impossibility that Oswald could have fired two shots as close together as the premise indicated was the case. Of course faulty premises will lead to faulty conclusions. Given the arguments being made, I thought for a second I had stepped back into the 1990s. Same old shit that was being flung when I first started participating in online discussion groups in the early 1990s. This speaks to what I said in the thread regarding 57 years of futility. The CT train is going nowhere. They will be keep making the same baseless arguments for another 57 years or until they assume room temperature, whichever comes first.
A pity 'tis for thee that they will not let thee smear thine shit all over their walls. Sad, it must make thee feelst, and so very lonely! Thank god for Trump and baseball!
> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame. There was one thread devoted to the impossibility that Oswald could have fired two shots as close together as the premise indicated was the case. Of course faulty premises will lead to faulty conclusions. Given the arguments being made, I thought for a second I had stepped back into the 1990s. Same old shit that was being flung when I first started participating in online discussion groups in the early 1990s. This speaks to what I said in the thread regarding 57 years of futility. The CT train is going nowhere. They will be keep making the same baseless arguments for another 57 years or until they assume room temperature, whichever comes first.
healyd...@gmail.com
Jun 10, 2021, 10:51:51 PM6/10/21
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BT George
Jun 11, 2021, 12:51:47 AM6/11/21
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Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 3:35:29 PM6/11/21
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On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
It is an echo chamber.
DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them on his website.
Ben Holmes
Jun 11, 2021, 4:11:06 PM6/11/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>
> It is an echo chamber.
>
> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> on his website.
Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
wrote:
>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>
> It is an echo chamber.
>
> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> on his website.
Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 4:28:13 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >
> > It is an echo chamber.
> >
> > DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> > ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> > on his website.
> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
You hate reality.
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >
> > It is an echo chamber.
> >
> > DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> > ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> > on his website.
> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
Ben Holmes
Jun 11, 2021, 4:45:05 PM6/11/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
opinion.
>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
>
> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
claim with any actual quotes or cites.
I predicted it here first!
wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>
>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>
>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>> on his website.
>>
>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
>
> You hate reality.
Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>
>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>
>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>> on his website.
>>
>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
>
> You hate reality.
opinion.
>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
>
> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
claim with any actual quotes or cites.
I predicted it here first!
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 5:49:52 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>
> >>> It is an echo chamber.
> >>>
> >>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>> on his website.
> >>
> >> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >
> > You hate reality.
> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> opinion.
That is merely your opinion.
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>
> >>> It is an echo chamber.
> >>>
> >>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>> on his website.
> >>
> >> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >
> > You hate reality.
> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> opinion.
> >> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
> >> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
> >
> > You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
Ben Holmes
Jun 11, 2021, 5:55:16 PM6/11/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
support.
>>>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>>>> truths" he implies couldn't answered by critics...
No, I don't have to "show" anything at all.
Wnen you make a statement that you REFUSE to support, you've asserted
that such people are "dumbasses".
You're a dumbass, Chickenshit...
And you *STILL* can't support your own claim...
>> I predicted it here first!
And I was right... as usual.
wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>>>
>>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>>>> on his website.
>>>>
>>>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
>>>
>>> You hate reality.
>>
>> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
>> opinion.
>
> That is merely your opinion.
No, it's a FACT that you offered a statement that you refuse to
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>>>
>>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>>>> on his website.
>>>>
>>>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
>>>
>>> You hate reality.
>>
>> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
>> opinion.
>
> That is merely your opinion.
support.
>>>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>>>
>>> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
>>
>> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
>> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>
> You have to show ...
>>> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
>>
>> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
>> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>
No, I don't have to "show" anything at all.
Wnen you make a statement that you REFUSE to support, you've asserted
that such people are "dumbasses".
You're a dumbass, Chickenshit...
And you *STILL* can't support your own claim...
>> I predicted it here first!
John Corbett
Jun 11, 2021, 6:11:34 PM6/11/21
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pointless to have a discussion group with no dissenting opinions allowed but that looks like
what they have. It's like watching a pack of dogs sniffing each other's assholes.
healyd...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2021, 6:21:38 PM6/11/21
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pssssst DVP been thrown off of every board I've been on for lyin'.... What-a-guy... We just keep smackin' you trolls around.... turning into quite a sport...
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 6:21:43 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 5:55:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is an echo chamber.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>>>> on his website.
> >>>>
> >>>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >>>
> >>> You hate reality.
> >>
> >> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> >> opinion.
> >
> > That is merely your opinion.
> No, it's a FACT that you offered a statement that you refuse to
> support.
I characterized what occurred. You can look into it if you like.
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is an echo chamber.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>>>> on his website.
> >>>>
> >>>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >>>
> >>> You hate reality.
> >>
> >> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> >> opinion.
> >
> > That is merely your opinion.
> No, it's a FACT that you offered a statement that you refuse to
> support.
> >>>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
> >>>> truths" he implies couldn't answered by critics...
> >>>
> >>> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
> >>
> >> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
> >> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
> >
> > You have to show ...
>
>
> No, I don't have to "show" anything at all.
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 7:20:48 PM6/11/21
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https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22690-warning-to-forum-members-please-read-this/
The pretext used to ban him was that the individual posters owned the rights to what they wrote, so when DVP quoted them on his website he was stealing their intellectual property.
They used this from their terms of service to oust him...
"Posts on the Education Forum are owned by the individual members who post there and who are SOLELY responsible for the content of their posts, and that the Education Forum, as an entity, is in no way responsible for the content of the posts."
I think a lawyer would destroy this, this provision is to protect the site from liability, not to protect the rights of the posters who use the site.
Hank Sienzant
Jun 11, 2021, 7:37:37 PM6/11/21
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On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame. There was one thread devoted to the impossibility that Oswald could have fired two shots as close together as the premise indicated was the case. Of course faulty premises will lead to faulty conclusions. Given the arguments being made, I thought for a second I had stepped back into the 1990s. Same old shit that was being flung when I first started participating in online discussion groups in the early 1990s. This speaks to what I said in the thread regarding 57 years of futility. The CT train is going nowhere. They will be keep making the same baseless arguments for another 57 years or until they assume room temperature, whichever comes first.
I went there after I learned John McAdams died. Since he was the sole moderator of alt.assassination.jfk, all activity on that board has ceased since his passing.
At the time, this thread was the most recently used, so I started posting there:
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27091-john-mcadams-has-passed-on/
I only check in infrequently. I joined a long time ago, but - you’ll get a kick out of this - one poster accused me of being some sort of special agent who would be activated upon McAdams passing. I guess that old adage is true — “you’re not paranoid if they really are after you”. Good luck convincing that guy I’m just a former conspiracy theorist who converted after reading the WC and HSCA volumes of evidence and saw for myself how conspiracy authors were twisting the evidence.
Looks like I owe a few people a response.
Hank
Bud
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healyd...@gmail.com
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healyd...@gmail.com
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Bud
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David Von Pein
Jun 11, 2021, 9:33:24 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> The reason they gave for closing the forum to new members was that they had banned an unnamed poster who rejoined under a different name. I'll bet that was DVP.
Oh my goodness, no! It was certainly not me! I would never try to conceal my real identity by posting under a different name. Never. I think the person the EF was referring to was Albert Doyle (alias Ralph Yates). It could have been some other CTer though, but it definitely was not me.
> The reason they gave for closing the forum to new members was that they had banned an unnamed poster who rejoined under a different name. I'll bet that was DVP.
And the trumped-up excuse that James R. Gordon (the top Lord of Made-Up Rules there at The Education Forum at the time in 2019) utilized in order to banish me from his kingdom is almost beyond belief in its flimsiness. In fact, the new "rule" (aimed at me) that's now on the EF books wasn't even added to the site's Terms Of Use page until a few hours AFTER I was banned from the forum! How's that for being "trumped-up"? I talk about all this in my archived article at my website below:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1330.html
John Corbett
Jun 11, 2021, 9:43:49 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 9:33:24 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > The reason they gave for closing the forum to new members was that they had banned an unnamed poster who rejoined under a different name. I'll bet that was DVP.
> Oh my goodness, no! It was certainly not me!
My apologies. I took an educated guess that was off base.
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > The reason they gave for closing the forum to new members was that they had banned an unnamed poster who rejoined under a different name. I'll bet that was DVP.
> Oh my goodness, no! It was certainly not me!
David Von Pein
Jun 11, 2021, 9:44:39 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
I've archived what is (IMO) *the best* example I have ever seen of a batch of iron-headed conspiracy theorists avoiding the "inconvenient truth" known as the Single-Bullet Theory.
SBT denial at its very finest begins here:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 10:02:22 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 9:33:24 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
"Posts on the Education Forum are owned by the individual members who post there and who are SOLELY responsible for the content of their posts, and that the Education Forum, as an entity, is in no way responsible for the content of the posts."
Bud
Jun 11, 2021, 10:04:38 PM6/11/21
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You were forcing the children to eat their peas, and they didn`t like it one bit.
David Von Pein
Jun 11, 2021, 10:27:22 PM6/11/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 10:02:22 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> The rule from the terms of service that guy Gordan first invoked was this...
> "Posts on the Education Forum are owned by the individual members who post there and who are SOLELY responsible for the content of their posts, and that the Education Forum, as an entity, is in no way responsible for the content of the posts."
> Clearly this was written to protect the forum from liability for anything posters might write, not to protect the rights of the posters. In no way can this be read as the forum having the duty to protect the rights of the posters, the posters would need to seek their own legal remedies for that.
Right. In fact, that rule is even listed under the heading of "Limitation of Liability" on the EF's Terms of Forum Use page....
> The rule from the terms of service that guy Gordan first invoked was this...
> "Posts on the Education Forum are owned by the individual members who post there and who are SOLELY responsible for the content of their posts, and that the Education Forum, as an entity, is in no way responsible for the content of the posts."
> Clearly this was written to protect the forum from liability for anything posters might write, not to protect the rights of the posters. In no way can this be read as the forum having the duty to protect the rights of the posters, the posters would need to seek their own legal remedies for that.
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/21403-terms-of-forum-use
It's this "Copyright Ownership" rule that was conveniently added by Lord Gordon to the EF's TOS....
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R2GqZ9FtCck/YMQYex4MjkI/AAAAAAABYQY/Yo8sccHGyWgmPzW6V0pJNi79xHxHil2CQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2000/EF-TOS.png
....but it was only added several hours AFTER I had already been booted off the forum in Aug. 2019. At the time I was archiving all of my EF discussions at my own site, that "Must Obtain The Author's Permission Before Copying" rule did not exist at all. And I had been archiving the EF discussions at my site for many years prior to 2019, without a single person complaining or caring about it at all. And on the EF itself, I would even post many of the links to my own site where I had transferred the EF material. For years I did this. Not a single person there cared.....until August of 2019.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R2GqZ9FtCck/YMQYex4MjkI/AAAAAAABYQY/Yo8sccHGyWgmPzW6V0pJNi79xHxHil2CQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2000/EF-TOS.png
Bud
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Jason Burke
Jun 11, 2021, 11:37:49 PM6/11/21
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until Monday morning. And we all know that Healy is too wasted to post
this late in the day.
David Von Pein
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http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1330.html
******Highlights From Above Article/Webpage....******
James Gordon said:
I do not believe DVP credits the source of his material.
DVP said:
That's Lie #1. I give credit to tons of "sources" for the material I post, with links being presented by the dozen. But, actually, I'm not sure what kind of "source credit" Gordon is even referring to here. If he's talking about sourcing the original discussion threads from which I copy posts from the EF forum, then it's an even bigger lie being told by Gordon, because (as I have said many times before) I always provide a link to the original (source) EF thread at the bottom of all of my webpages.
James Gordon said:
It appears to me that the material DVP copies is taken out of context. .... In doing that he is clearly changing what the EF members originally thought and believe and therefore DVP has changed what EF members posted on this forum.
DVP said:
I strongly resent such a charge. Furthermore, it's a really stupid charge in the first place. Since I am merely taking verbatim quotes from the EF forum over to my own site, Gordon must actually think I'm some sort of Houdini or David Copperfield, in that I am apparently able to take those verbatim CTer quotes and (somehow) change the entire belief structure of the conspiracy theorist being quoted. Even though, keep in mind, the quotes are the EXACT VERBATIM WORDS that were written by the CTer at the EF forum before I copied them to another Internet location.
I guess I'm more powerful than I thought! Unbelievable!
In other words --- James R. Gordon is full of shit. It appears to me as if he has been significantly influenced by the other conspiracy theorists at the EF forum who also contend that I have taken things "out of context" and have literally "changed" what CTers have posted at the EF forum. But regardless of which CTer utters such garbage, it's still going to be garbage (and a lie).
James Gordon said:
DVP has two opinions. There are the posts he used to make here on threads here. Then there is the opinion that is shaped by him - using EF members contributions - to create a narrative on another website for which we have no editing rights. And the narrative on his site does not reflect what was originally said on this website.
DVP said:
More lies. See my last comments above. Plus, Gordon should re-read this comment I aimed at him earlier today [8/26/19] at the EF forum....
"With regard to the particular JFK sub-topics that I have chosen to engage various CTers on...I have "changed" NOTHING that was in any original quote written by any CTer on The Education Forum." -- DVP
And the bunk about me having "two opinions" on various JFK matters is just...well...bizarre (to say the least).
Where on this Earth did Gordon get the idea that my basic "opinions" about any aspect of the JFK murder case somehow change between the time I post my thoughts at The Education Forum and when I re-post those EXACT SAME VERBATIM COMMENTS at my website?
The only response I can possibly muster after reading such a bizarre allegation is this one....
WTF?
******Highlights From Above Article/Webpage....******
James Gordon said:
I do not believe DVP credits the source of his material.
DVP said:
That's Lie #1. I give credit to tons of "sources" for the material I post, with links being presented by the dozen. But, actually, I'm not sure what kind of "source credit" Gordon is even referring to here. If he's talking about sourcing the original discussion threads from which I copy posts from the EF forum, then it's an even bigger lie being told by Gordon, because (as I have said many times before) I always provide a link to the original (source) EF thread at the bottom of all of my webpages.
James Gordon said:
It appears to me that the material DVP copies is taken out of context. .... In doing that he is clearly changing what the EF members originally thought and believe and therefore DVP has changed what EF members posted on this forum.
DVP said:
I strongly resent such a charge. Furthermore, it's a really stupid charge in the first place. Since I am merely taking verbatim quotes from the EF forum over to my own site, Gordon must actually think I'm some sort of Houdini or David Copperfield, in that I am apparently able to take those verbatim CTer quotes and (somehow) change the entire belief structure of the conspiracy theorist being quoted. Even though, keep in mind, the quotes are the EXACT VERBATIM WORDS that were written by the CTer at the EF forum before I copied them to another Internet location.
I guess I'm more powerful than I thought! Unbelievable!
In other words --- James R. Gordon is full of shit. It appears to me as if he has been significantly influenced by the other conspiracy theorists at the EF forum who also contend that I have taken things "out of context" and have literally "changed" what CTers have posted at the EF forum. But regardless of which CTer utters such garbage, it's still going to be garbage (and a lie).
James Gordon said:
DVP has two opinions. There are the posts he used to make here on threads here. Then there is the opinion that is shaped by him - using EF members contributions - to create a narrative on another website for which we have no editing rights. And the narrative on his site does not reflect what was originally said on this website.
DVP said:
More lies. See my last comments above. Plus, Gordon should re-read this comment I aimed at him earlier today [8/26/19] at the EF forum....
"With regard to the particular JFK sub-topics that I have chosen to engage various CTers on...I have "changed" NOTHING that was in any original quote written by any CTer on The Education Forum." -- DVP
And the bunk about me having "two opinions" on various JFK matters is just...well...bizarre (to say the least).
Where on this Earth did Gordon get the idea that my basic "opinions" about any aspect of the JFK murder case somehow change between the time I post my thoughts at The Education Forum and when I re-post those EXACT SAME VERBATIM COMMENTS at my website?
The only response I can possibly muster after reading such a bizarre allegation is this one....
WTF?
Airline Seat 19efppp
Jun 12, 2021, 4:53:38 AM6/12/21
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As an example, I once said that the radio interference on channel 1 was done to obliterate the radio transmissions in Dealey Plaza so that they could not be heard on the Dictabelt recording. And then I proceeded to list those transmissions. Obviously, my context was not precisely defined. What I should have said was that the *intent* was to make the transmissions inaudible, but they still were present on the recording, just very difficult to hear. In response to what I said, DVP pointed out an apparent contradiction, that if the signals had been obliterated, then how could I hear them? It could be a wilful "misunderstanding" on the part of DVP, or it could be that his thinking is just too rigid to consider that my expression of thought was imprecise. But, if I were to see the exchange presented on his website 3 weeks later, then I could very well think that he had taken my post out of context because I remember the context in my own mind better than I remember the exact words which I used.
Hank Sienzant
Jun 12, 2021, 5:41:17 AM6/12/21
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I'm waiting for them to ban me.
Hank Sienzant
Jun 12, 2021, 5:56:50 AM6/12/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:37 PM UTC-4, Hank Sienzant wrote:
== QUOTE ==
Bingo. Joined in 2012, 86 posts. 22 of them in 7 hours yesterday. A "sleeper agent" for McAdams? One who given the similarity of their phrasing might have responded online in his behalf before?
== UNQUOTE ==
Hank
Airline Seat 19efppp
Jun 12, 2021, 6:27:10 AM6/12/21
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Airline Seat 19efppp
Jun 12, 2021, 6:36:02 AM6/12/21
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Bud
Jun 12, 2021, 7:25:48 AM6/12/21
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David Von Pein
Jun 12, 2021, 9:45:55 PM6/12/21
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On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 7:25:48 AM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> They are mostly a bunch of wingnuts [at The Education Forum]. You'd fit right in.
You're darn right he would. (Or is it "she"?)
> They are mostly a bunch of wingnuts [at The Education Forum]. You'd fit right in.
You're darn right he would. (Or is it "she"?)
healyd...@gmail.com
Jun 12, 2021, 10:55:06 PM6/12/21
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Bud
Jun 13, 2021, 8:20:53 AM6/13/21
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Your voice there was like nails on a chalkboard to them, they had to stop so much truth from being spoken there.
John Corbett
Jun 13, 2021, 8:37:40 AM6/13/21
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BT George
Jun 13, 2021, 7:02:28 PM6/13/21
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On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 3:45:05 PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >>>
> >>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>> on his website.
> >>
> >> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >
> > You hate reality.
> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> opinion.
...folks I submit the proof sought after.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/search?q=Ben%20holmes
> >> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
> >> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
> >
> > You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>
> I predicted it here first!
Sure. Just like he has for years predicted that LNs would fade away in light of Mark Lane's "eloquent" prose. :-)
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>
> >On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>
> >>> It is an echo chamber.
> >>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> >>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
> >>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
> >>> on his website.
> >>
> >> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
> >
> > You hate reality.
> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
> opinion.
...folks I submit the proof sought after.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/search?q=Ben%20holmes
> >> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
> >> truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
> >
> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>
> I predicted it here first!
Sure. Just like he has for years predicted that LNs would fade away in light of Mark Lane's "eloquent" prose. :-)
BT George
Jun 13, 2021, 7:05:00 PM6/13/21
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BT George
Jun 13, 2021, 7:10:10 PM6/13/21
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David Von Pein
Jun 13, 2021, 8:39:11 PM6/13/21
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According to the older threads I've posted in, it says I'm on a "Two Posts Per Day" restriction, but that's wrong. I can't post there at all. Why it still says "2 Posts Per Day", I have no idea.
FYI --- I have the distinction of being unfairly banned from the EDForum by BOTH of the last two owners/fantasists of that forum---Simkin (in 2006) and Gordon (2019). Pretty good record, huh? Can anyone else make that glorious claim? 😁 (Where's my trophy?)
healyd...@gmail.com
Jun 13, 2021, 9:06:17 PM6/13/21
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You're now claiming victimhood, correct? lmfao! Frankly, I could care less, nothing nor anyone will rescue the 1964 WCR conclusions and certainlt not DVP's 15 websites; 18 Youtube Channels; 11 blogs; 2.5 million usenet form posts -- all under the guise of a oldtime tv and baseball affectionado...and never a PA anywhere discussing the subject matter...
It's a tough job some nutter has to do it -- and after nearly 60 years ya still can't convince anyone LHO did it all by his lonesome
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Jason Burke
Jun 13, 2021, 10:40:19 PM6/13/21
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You know, when he's incapable by law of responding.
Ah, f*ck it. The retard deserves whatever he gets.
David Von Pein
Jun 13, 2021, 10:40:42 PM6/13/21
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On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:06:17 PM UTC-4, healyd...@gmail.com wrote:
> No permission to repost others data, despite being warned multiple times...?
Point me to any such "warnings". You can't, because there were none. No such silly rule even existed until several hours AFTER Gordon pulled the plug on my membership. But just ignore that little fact, Mr. Crackpipe. That way you can pretend I broke some long-standing EF rule. And then you can pretend that all of the crybaby CTers at the EF *really care one whit* about my copying their words to my own site, even though not a single one of those CTers ever said a word about it for the first ten years I'd been doing it.
@All LNers Here....
BTW / FWIW / FYI....
For another good example of the semi-frequent fits of pique exhibited by the thin-skinned James Gordon at The Education Forum, check out the absurd situation in the following link:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1310.html
"This additional thought occurred to me a few days after the above bizarre situation took place....
You would think that after writing his crybaby-ish Private Message to me at The Education Forum website, James Gordon would have been satisfied with a private apology from me.
And if Gordon would have handled the matter in that "private" manner, then that would have been the end of it and no one would have had to know about this minor skirmish except James Gordon and myself.
But nooooo!
A private resolution wasn't nearly good enough for Mr. Gordon. Instead, in heavy-handed and petty fashion, Gordon decided he wanted to construct a public mountain out of a private molehill, with Gordon "insisting" that I not only give him a "public apology", but he also "insisted" that I "create a new thread" at the forum in order to showcase in even more dramatic and unnecessary fashion how I was grovelling at his dictatorial feet.
Nice, huh?" -- DVP; 2/27/19
> No permission to repost others data, despite being warned multiple times...?
Point me to any such "warnings". You can't, because there were none. No such silly rule even existed until several hours AFTER Gordon pulled the plug on my membership. But just ignore that little fact, Mr. Crackpipe. That way you can pretend I broke some long-standing EF rule. And then you can pretend that all of the crybaby CTers at the EF *really care one whit* about my copying their words to my own site, even though not a single one of those CTers ever said a word about it for the first ten years I'd been doing it.
@All LNers Here....
BTW / FWIW / FYI....
For another good example of the semi-frequent fits of pique exhibited by the thin-skinned James Gordon at The Education Forum, check out the absurd situation in the following link:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1310.html
"This additional thought occurred to me a few days after the above bizarre situation took place....
You would think that after writing his crybaby-ish Private Message to me at The Education Forum website, James Gordon would have been satisfied with a private apology from me.
And if Gordon would have handled the matter in that "private" manner, then that would have been the end of it and no one would have had to know about this minor skirmish except James Gordon and myself.
But nooooo!
A private resolution wasn't nearly good enough for Mr. Gordon. Instead, in heavy-handed and petty fashion, Gordon decided he wanted to construct a public mountain out of a private molehill, with Gordon "insisting" that I not only give him a "public apology", but he also "insisted" that I "create a new thread" at the forum in order to showcase in even more dramatic and unnecessary fashion how I was grovelling at his dictatorial feet.
Nice, huh?" -- DVP; 2/27/19
Jason Burke
Jun 13, 2021, 10:41:35 PM6/13/21
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Ben Holmes
Jun 14, 2021, 9:20:04 AM6/14/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>> > Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>> It is an echo chamber.
>>
>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them on his website.
>pointless to have a discussion group with no dissenting opinions allowed but that looks like
>what they have. It's like watching a pack of dogs sniffing each other's assholes.
And Monkey "asshole" Boy just can't help himself watching this.
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>> > Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>> It is an echo chamber.
>>
>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them on his website.
>> > There was one thread devoted to the impossibility that Oswald could have fired two shots as close together as the premise indicated was the case. Of course faulty premises will lead to faulty conclusions. Given the arguments being made, I thought for a second I had stepped back into the 1990s. Same old shit that was being flung when I first started participating in online discussion groups in the early 1990s. This speaks to what I said in the thread regarding 57 years of futility. The CT train is going nowhere. They will be keep making the same baseless arguments for another 57 years or until they assume room temperature, whichever comes first.
>
>The reason they gave for closing the forum to new members was that they had banned an unnamed poster who rejoined under a different name. I'll bet that was DVP. It seems rather
>
>pointless to have a discussion group with no dissenting opinions allowed but that looks like
>what they have. It's like watching a pack of dogs sniffing each other's assholes.
And Monkey "asshole" Boy just can't help himself watching this.
Ben Holmes
Jun 14, 2021, 9:20:10 AM6/14/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:44:38 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
>
>I've archived what is (IMO) *the best* example ...
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient truths" he implies couldn't be answered by critics...
>
Post it here... DEFEND IT when I answer it.
But you won't.
You're a coward.
BT George
Jun 14, 2021, 3:31:07 PM6/14/21
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Ben Holmes
Jul 6, 2021, 8:57:55 AM7/6/21
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 5:55:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, it's a FACT that you offered a statement that you refuse to
>> support.
>
> I ...
...offered a statement which you refuse to support.
Already said that.
>>>>>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>>>>>> truths" he implies couldn't answered by critics...
>>
>> No, I don't have to "show" anything at all.
>
> You ...
No, I'm examining *YOUR* inability to support what you claim.
>> Wnen you make a statement that you REFUSE to support, you've asserted
>> that such people are "dumbasses".
>>
>> You're a dumbass, Chickenshit...
>>
>> And you *STILL* can't support your own claim...
wrote:
>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 5:55:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:45:05 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 4:11:06 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>>>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>>>>>> on his website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:10:14 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thinking it might have a higher level of discourse than this cuckoo's nest, I decided to check out the education forum which I hadn't looked at in many years. A membership is required to post there they haven't been accepting any new members for the past 8 months. While the discussions do seem a bit more civil, it seems to be dominated by the CTs with few recent posts from LNs. Since everyone seems to be agreeing with each other, it seems rather lame.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is an echo chamber.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DVP used to bring up some of the inconvenient truths they prefer to
>>>>>>> ignore so they kicked him out, on the pretext that he was quoting them
>>>>>>> on his website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Takes a real moron to actually *believe* that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You hate reality.
>>>>
>>>> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
>>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> That is merely your opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> You hate reality.
>>>>
>>>> Notice folks, that Chickemenshit merely offered his unsupported
>>>> opinion.
>>>
>>
>> No, it's a FACT that you offered a statement that you refuse to
>> support.
>
> I ...
...offered a statement which you refuse to support.
Already said that.
>>>>>> Watch folks, as this moron refuses to quote any of these "inconvenient
>>>>>
>>>>> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
>>>>
>>>> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
>>>> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>>>
>>> You have to show ...
>>>>> You aren`t making any sense, why would a truth need to be answered?
>>>>
>>>> Notice folks, my prediction came true. Chickenshit can't support his
>>>> claim with any actual quotes or cites.
>>>
>>
>> No, I don't have to "show" anything at all.
>
> You ...
No, I'm examining *YOUR* inability to support what you claim.
>> Wnen you make a statement that you REFUSE to support, you've asserted
>> that such people are "dumbasses".
>>
>> You're a dumbass, Chickenshit...
>>
>> And you *STILL* can't support your own claim...
>>>> I predicted it here first!
>> And I was right... as usual.
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