"Jack Jones" in the movie Nixon
Dan Smith
I have not seen the movie Nixon, but a friend of mine wants me to post
this question to all of you...
In the movie, Nixon visits Dallas and meets with someone called "Jack Jones".
This was the guy's name in the movie but not his real name. Anyway, Nixon
talks about how he will never be able to beat Kennedy in 64. Jones says
something to the effect of "Kennedy can be removed as an obstacle". In the
movie, the "Jack Jones" guy was into Studabaker cars...
Anyway, my friend was wondering who this "Jack Jones" guy could be or who he
was supposed to be.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help. Send all replies to
dans...@skopen.dseg.ti.com.
Joseph M. Knapp
"Jack Jones" to me was clearly supposed to be one of the
Hunts, either H.L. Hunt or Nelson Bunker Hunt.
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Joe Knapp
Michael Ray Swanson
"Joseph M. Knapp" writes:
> "Jack Jones" to me was clearly supposed to be one of the
> Hunts, either H.L. Hunt or Nelson Bunker Hunt.
I thought he was Clint Murchinson. There was a seen later in
the movie where Nixon met again with his "Jones" and a few
other Dallasites. One of them made some remarks about blacks -
he looked like H.L. Hunt. Also the Jones guy owned a race
track just like Clint. Plus Clint has been rumored to have
been throwing a party the night before - like in the movie.
fe...@ivory.trentu.ca
BTW, my friend wants to know who the two guys are with bazookas in the
sixth floor window?
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If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the
few who are rich.
JOHN F. KENNEDY, (1961)
Joseph M. Knapp
> I thought he was Clint Murchinson. There was a seen later in
> the movie where Nixon met again with his "Jones" and a few
> other Dallasites. One of them made some remarks about blacks -
> he looked like H.L. Hunt. Also the Jones guy owned a race
> track just like Clint. Plus Clint has been rumored to have
> been throwing a party the night before - like in the movie.
Was Muchison a "Bircher?" In the movie, Nixon refers to them as
Birchers. Also H. L. Hunt was a bag man for various GOP candidates
who would hold their noses and go to his ranch, just like Nixon
did in the movie. Also, Hunt bankrolled Nixon's House campaign
and wrote him several letters on the record giving him advice (like
lay off the Birch Society). He was involved with the Alpha 66 group
as well, explaining the presence of the Cubans.
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Joe Knapp
jackwhite
Murchison (CORRECT SPELLING) and Hunt were ultra-billionaires and
ultra-rightwing, but I doubt they **belonged** to the anti-communist John
Birch Society, though as ultra-anticommunists, I am sure they supported
Birch aims.
Joseph M. Knapp
In the book _Texas Rich_, Harry Hurt Jr. writes that after Nixon's 1962
gubernatorial defeat H. L Hunt wrote to him, chastising him for:
..."yielding to Ike's orders to subside your disclosures" of
Communists in government, "debating with Kennedy," "wearing the
wrong color shirt in the first television debate," and "reading
the conservative and the John Birch Society out of the party."
And then there's Bunker:
Bunker found a mentor in John Birch Society founder Robert Welch.
...Robert Welch became a kind of surrogate father for Bunker,
educating him on the Bircher outlook... Bunker entertained Welch
in his Dallas home and began to contribute what he had the most
to offer--money.
H.L. Hunt probably never gave money to the JBS, but Nelson Bunker did.
Bunker was the dude who coughed up the hundred dollar bills to pay for
the black-bordered "Welcome Mr. Kennedy" ad in the Dallas Morning News.
I wouldn't doubt that he was the one who had the bucks to waste on
silly stunts like a plane that flew over Pres. Kennedy's head in
Houston on Nov. 21, streaming a banner: "Co-existence is Surrender."
He paid for the ad through Birch operative Larry Grinnan (Dallas area
coordinator for the JBS) and the people who flitted flitted from one
ultra-right group to another in those days in Dallas.
The Birch magazine _American Opinion_ in 1965 listed Bunker as a
1% or more stockholder (along with only two other people).
Whether or not these Hunts were "members" of the JBS seems to be of
only semantic interest. But Bunker was a member and joined their
National Council in 1976.
When Oliver Stone in _Nixon_ depicts some big time oilman involved
in Cuban intrigues (as was H.L.) as well as violent intimations about
JFK (as in the black-bordered ad) and labels them "Birchers," I put
"Jack Jones" down as a composite of pure Hunt, H.L. and N.B.
After the assassination, the public heat on H.L. (since he was so
readily identifiable as a Kennedy hater) got so bad that he left
town for a month. He resisted doing it, knowing it would look bad, but
the FBI convinced him that he was in danger there. He cooled out in
Washington DC for a while.
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Joe Knapp
jackwhite
Good info on the Hunts. They were notorious in DFW in the 60s for the
HLH Lifeline anti-communist right wing radio show. A Lifeline radio
transcript was found in Jack Ruby*s effects. I did not know of Birch
Society Ties. The Hunts were very outspoken. The Murchisons were very
low profile politically and locally because of entertainment business
holdings...Dallas Cowboys, Six Flags, etc. The Hunts (oil and groceries)
didn*t seem to care.
jack
JEC1128
In article <4m97qi$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Joseph M.
Knapp" <j...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes:
>Also, Hunt bankrolled Nixon's House campaign
And JFK bankrolled Nixon's Senatorial campaign. This is no joke. JFK
admired his fellow anti-communist cold warrior in the late 40's and early
50's.
John Corbett
Thpa2d
JFK slipped Dick $1,000.00 towards his campaign.
JFK and Nixon had mutual respect for each other.
JFK went to Nixon after Bay of Pigs and asked for
his advice on what to do next. Nixon suggested
JFK find "Legal Cover" and go back in....jko
Michael Ray Swanson
jec...@aol.com writes:
> In article <4m97qi$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Joseph M.
> Knapp" <j...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes:
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> >Also, Hunt bankrolled Nixon's House campaign
One interesting note I just discovered - after the time of the
assassination - Nixon wouldn't touch money offered by H.L.
Hunt. He said that Hunt would expect favours if he accepted
his money. - This is in Ambrose's large lengthy Nixon work.
Joseph M. Knapp
>One interesting note I just discovered - after the time of the
>assassination - Nixon wouldn't touch money offered by H.L.
>Hunt. He said that Hunt would expect favours if he accepted
>his money. - This is in Ambrose's large lengthy Nixon work.
Which is consistent with how Stone depicted it: Nixon wasn't
biting at the proferred help.
P.S. The posts that JFK somehow supported Nixon are baloney.
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Joe Knapp
Michael Ray Swanson
"Joseph M. Knapp" writes:
> >One interesting note I just discovered - after the time of the
> >assassination - Nixon wouldn't touch money offered by H.L.
> >Hunt. He said that Hunt would expect favours if he accepted
> >his money. - This is in Ambrose's large lengthy Nixon work.
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> Which is consistent with how Stone depicted it: Nixon wasn't
> biting at the proferred help.
I just read an excellent analysis of Stone's movie in a Cinema
Journal. I'll post some parts of it. Sadly, I haven't seen
much of any analysis of the movie among JFK researchers. This
article is the best I've seen. I'll try to post excerpts from
it in a couple of days. Its written by a fella named Chris
Sharrett?
Lisa Pease
Michael Ray Swanson (mr...@Virginia.EDU) wrote:
As I understand it, this article will be rerun in the next Assassination
Chronicles.
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jackwhite
> Its written by a fella named Chris
> Sharrett?
Of course the review was good, if it was written by Chris...one of the most distinguished
longtime jfk researchers. Compliment him at
Christopher Sharrett SHAR...@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU
Michael Ray Swanson
jackwhite writes:
> > Its written by a fella named Chris
> > Sharrett?
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> Of course the review was good, if it was written by Chris...one of the most distinguished
> longtime jfk researchers. Compliment him at
Thanks, I'll do that.
Unfortunately I think the article will be totally ignored -
even if published by some JFK research journal. His ideas just
don't fit in with the CIA did it all consensus. Stone's Nixon
movie doesn't either, and sadly I think the myopic researchers
have just cast it aside.