On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 1:56:02 AM UTC+11, Steven Galbraith wrote:
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-5,
gparker...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:26:01 PM UTC+11, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> > > Greg Parker, brainiac.
> >
> > Thanks Thigh Zone!
> >
> > dead kangaroo fucker
> >
> > Hold on there, cobber. It is illegal to fuck a kangaroo, whether it is alive or dead! We are only allowed to eat 'em. Full of iron which is part of the reason I'm such a braniac.
> >
> > and JFK research hack,
> >
> > hack - Urban Dictionaryhttps://
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> > 1. A clever or elegant technical accomplishment, especially one with a playful or prankish bent. ·
> >
> > Another compliment! Thanks!
> > is 99.9% certain that the fat old lady in the Darnell film is Lee Harvey Oswald, and that makes him 1000% stupid:
> > Aghhh! were you being not serious with your compliments? Maybe you're just a bit addle-brained? Seeing a fat old lady points to some serious eye issues, if not psychological ones as well,
> >
> > > "Fact is, I may have joined you as nutter, if not for my 99.9% certainty that the figure in question is Oswald and that the associated evidence also points to a frame in place by Dallas police - now infamous for the number of innocent people they have locked up over the many decades of the Wade/Fritz/Decker eras."
> >
> > Yes, I know. The nice policeman is your friend. He is there to help you and would never ever tell a fib. Seriously, I would not ask you to distrust all police. If you're in trouble and need help or one comes up o you to help you cross the road, you need not be fearful. You can trust him and take his hand.
> >
> > This is just for the adults and others with functioning brains. Some police are not very nice.
> Greg, serious/good faith question, please. If you believe that all or the key evidence was faked, planted, manufactured, that all of the eyewitnesses were coerced or pressured into lying, and all (or key members) of the police corrupt then where can anyone go with this event? What is there to debate?
There would only be nothing to debate if everyone believed what you say about the evidence. Likewise there would be nothing to debate if everyone believed it was all real.
Nowhere have I ever said "everything is fake". That i s just nutters smearing with a broad brush. You talk about "good faith" and then immediately launch into a lone nutter smear.
Whatever evidence is presented of Oswald's guilt can be dismissed as faked and as evidence of a conspiracy.
> There is no place to go. It's a endless circular argument where one side cites evidence "A" and the response is "Evidence A is faked."
No evidence can be summarilary dismissed with the wave of hand. I don't do that. Some on both sides of the debate though, are guilty of it. You for example will not tolerate exculpatory evidence.
> I'll try to prove a negative here: If the DPD were a thoroughly racist and corrupt force, then I would suggest, for example, that Oswald's co-workers, particularly the black men, would have implicated him.
They changed their stories as required by the cops/fbi. Not everything works in obsolutes.
Forced/coerced/intimidated/frightened into doing so.
Into changing their stories - most certainly.
Givens is a prime example. He gave statements prior to his testimony. In how many of those did he mention going back up to the
the floor to retreive cigarettes and seeing Oswald up there? I'll let you figure it out.
Williams is another example. They needed a black man up on the 6th eating lunch. The earliest statements of the three amigos all have them going straight to the 5th floor together. This is confirmed by Alyea who said the food scraps were moved by the cops from the 5th to the 6th. Originally they wanted it to look like a cool calculating professional who casually ate lunch while waiting to shoot. That was even the original scenario given by Wade to the media. But ooops. They had to switch to a lone nut scenario, so having moved the scaps to the 6th, they now had to have one of the black huys up there eating it. Ebter Williams.
They would have said they saw him that morning carrying a long package (they, minus Frazier, all said they didn't see him with one).
You saying what they "would" have said is meaningless. It is just you playing your fucked up nutter parlor games. They changed their stories when and if needed. Each change, no matter that it was obviously too subtle a change for you, added to an overall picture of guilt..
They would have said he expressed hatred towards JFK (none of them said that). Norman/Jarman/Williams would have said they saw him go down the stairs after the shooting (all of them said they heard/saw no one go down the stairs). I would suggest that spectators in the crowd would have been coerced into saying they saw Oswald shoot from the window. Only one did.
More Nutter parlor games. so much for good faith.
> It's a rather lengthy list of things witnesses would have been forced to say if, as you argue, Wade and Fritz were near fascist/corrupt evil people.
The bigger the list, the bigger the lies, the bigger the risk of it all blowing up. THat's not how this is done. Changes are subtle to reduce risk factors. So no. You're just playing silly games.
But again, none of that happened.
Exactly. For the above reasons. It is idiotic.
In fact, the news media which was all over this event interviewed all of these people. The ability of Wade/Fritz to railroad a person for murdering a gas station clerk is far easier than doing so for this crime.
Maybe. But a murder is still just a murder and the same methods to framing someone apply. It does not include the fairy tales you want to put in my mouth,
Everyone, every person was interviewed. You cannot frame a man for a small time crime the way you could for the murder of a president.
> Yes, police are corrupt. Hell, people can be corrupt. That doesn't mean everyone at all times are corrupt.
Of course not. But the evidence shows they framed him. That you won't consider it, let alone look at the evidence for it with an open mind, is on you - not me.