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JE Corbett
Dec 14, 2023, 9:22:02 AM12/14/23
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Assuming DVP is still following these conversations I have a question for him.
Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
come across. The toggling features are one of the most illuminating pieces of
evidence regarding the SBT. It shows with clarity, the bulging of the jacket at
Z224, that JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first
becomes fully visible, and it shows both JFK and JBC starting their upward
arm movements simultaneously at Z226. I have never seen this feature from
any other source. I truly believe that these frames would be enough to
convince most skeptics of the validity of the SBT if they would look at them
objectively.
My question is whether you put together the toggling feature between
enhanced frames yourself or did you discover them from another source?
If these are your creation and only available on your website, I would hope
there would be a way to show these to a wider audience. If you got these
from another source, is it one that is widely available to the public at large?
If there was a way to show these clips to a much wider audience than the
people who frequent these discussion groups, I think it could be a game
change regarding public perception of the assassination.
Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
come across. The toggling features are one of the most illuminating pieces of
evidence regarding the SBT. It shows with clarity, the bulging of the jacket at
Z224, that JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first
becomes fully visible, and it shows both JFK and JBC starting their upward
arm movements simultaneously at Z226. I have never seen this feature from
any other source. I truly believe that these frames would be enough to
convince most skeptics of the validity of the SBT if they would look at them
objectively.
My question is whether you put together the toggling feature between
enhanced frames yourself or did you discover them from another source?
If these are your creation and only available on your website, I would hope
there would be a way to show these to a wider audience. If you got these
from another source, is it one that is widely available to the public at large?
If there was a way to show these clips to a much wider audience than the
people who frequent these discussion groups, I think it could be a game
change regarding public perception of the assassination.
JE Corbett
Dec 14, 2023, 9:34:31 AM12/14/23
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On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 9:22:02 AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
> Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
> come across.
I meant this to say:
> Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
> come across.
Your webpage on the SBT is one of the BEST examinations of the subject that I have come across.
Maybe someday I'll learn to proof read my own posts.
David Von Pein
Dec 14, 2023, 10:25:47 AM12/14/23
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Hi John C.,
The toggling (or looped) Zapruder Film clips that I have on many of my webpages are clips that I downloaded many years ago (thank goodness). However, they were not "created" by me specifically.
I think I got them from Bill Miller when he and I were both posting at Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer forum. Which means I downloaded them prior to the Summer of 2005, because that's when I was tossed out the Lancer door by Conway. Miller, btw, is/was a conspiracy theorist, which is kind of ironic. (And I think Mr. Miller has since passed away.)
I'm actually a little fuzzy concerning the exact *individual* source for those excellent toggling Z-Film clips that I love to prop up (as do you, John) to illustrate the viability of the SBT. But I'm almost positive the clips did originate at the now-defunct JFK-Lancer forum.
I have stated in the past that if I had ever had a chance to show those looped Z-Film clips to John and Nellie Connally, I think I could have probably made SBT believers out of both of them.
No hardline conspiracy theorist will ever be convinced by those clips, however. And for proof of that, all you need to do is click on the second of my two links below, which features a few of the Education Forum's CTers inventing brand-new ways with which to bury themselves in further "denial" when it comes to what they are seeing in those Z-Film clips:
http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html
The toggling (or looped) Zapruder Film clips that I have on many of my webpages are clips that I downloaded many years ago (thank goodness). However, they were not "created" by me specifically.
I think I got them from Bill Miller when he and I were both posting at Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer forum. Which means I downloaded them prior to the Summer of 2005, because that's when I was tossed out the Lancer door by Conway. Miller, btw, is/was a conspiracy theorist, which is kind of ironic. (And I think Mr. Miller has since passed away.)
I'm actually a little fuzzy concerning the exact *individual* source for those excellent toggling Z-Film clips that I love to prop up (as do you, John) to illustrate the viability of the SBT. But I'm almost positive the clips did originate at the now-defunct JFK-Lancer forum.
I have stated in the past that if I had ever had a chance to show those looped Z-Film clips to John and Nellie Connally, I think I could have probably made SBT believers out of both of them.
No hardline conspiracy theorist will ever be convinced by those clips, however. And for proof of that, all you need to do is click on the second of my two links below, which features a few of the Education Forum's CTers inventing brand-new ways with which to bury themselves in further "denial" when it comes to what they are seeing in those Z-Film clips:
http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html
Ben Holmes
Dec 14, 2023, 10:51:03 AM12/14/23
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 06:22:00 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Assuming DVP is still following these conversations I have a question for him.
Corbutt resurects a 13 year old thread... ROTFLMAO!!
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Assuming DVP is still following these conversations I have a question for him.
>Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
>come across. The toggling features are one of the most illuminating pieces of
>evidence regarding the SBT. It shows with clarity, the bulging of the jacket at
>Z224,
> that JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first
>becomes fully visible, and it shows both JFK and JBC starting their upward
>arm movements simultaneously at Z226. I have never seen this feature from
>any other source. I truly believe that these frames would be enough to
>convince most skeptics of the validity of the SBT if they would look at them
>objectively.
upbringing and went to church.
>My question is whether you put together the toggling feature between
>enhanced frames yourself or did you discover them from another source?
attribution - I want to document Von Penis stealing as well.
>If these are your creation and only available on your website, I would hope
>there would be a way to show these to a wider audience. If you got these
>from another source, is it one that is widely available to the public at large?
And since there's decreasing interest in the JFK assassination -
ACCORDING TO YOU - why would you make an effort here?
>If there was a way to show these clips to a much wider audience than the
>people who frequent these discussion groups,
>I think it could be a game
>change regarding public perception of the assassination.
Ben Holmes
Dec 14, 2023, 10:52:43 AM12/14/23
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 06:34:29 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 9:22:02?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
>
>> Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
>> come across.
>
>I meant this to say:
>Your webpage on the SBT is one of the BEST examinations of the subject that I have come across.
Clearly, you don't mind the lies and misrepresentations found on his
site.
>Maybe someday I'll learn to proof read my own posts.
I'd be more interested if you could learn to be honest.
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 9:22:02?AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
>
>> Your webpage on the SBT is one of the examinations of the subject that I have
>> come across.
>
>I meant this to say:
>Your webpage on the SBT is one of the BEST examinations of the subject that I have come across.
site.
>Maybe someday I'll learn to proof read my own posts.
Ben Holmes
Dec 14, 2023, 10:55:48 AM12/14/23
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 07:25:45 -0800 (PST), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Hi John Corbutt,
of course.
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Hi John Corbutt,
>
> The toggling (or looped) Zapruder Film clips that I have on many of
> my webpages are clips that I downloaded many years ago (thank
> goodness). However, they were not "created" by me specifically.
>
> I think I got them from Bill Miller when he and I were both posting
> at Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer forum. Which means I downloaded them
> prior to the Summer of 2005,
So you're in the same boat as the dishonest Corbutt. Not a surprise,
> The toggling (or looped) Zapruder Film clips that I have on many of
> my webpages are clips that I downloaded many years ago (thank
> goodness). However, they were not "created" by me specifically.
>
> I think I got them from Bill Miller when he and I were both posting
> at Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer forum. Which means I downloaded them
> prior to the Summer of 2005,
of course.
JE Corbett
Dec 14, 2023, 2:54:51 PM12/14/23
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saw those clips, they were certainly erased. I had been aware of jacket bulge at Z224 long before that but the real key for
me was seeing that at Z225, JFK's right hand was still moving downward which means his reflexive raising of his arms
began after he reappeared, not before. Almost everyone who looks at the unenhanced Z-film in normal speed is going to
believe JFK was already reacting when he reappeared at Z225 but the toggling of the key frames prove that did not happen
until Z226, 1/18th of a second after he was fully in view. That's impossible to perceive with the naked eye when looking at
the film at normal speed but when you isolate the frames, it jumps out at you. JFK did not start reacting to his wound until
Z226, the same frame Connally's reflexive arm flip occurred.
It is too bad none of the documentaries that have been produced over the years have used those clips. I'm sure if they
were aware of them, they would have. Have you ever had contact with Dale Myers or do you know if he is aware of those
clips? If anybody could reach a greater audience than the small number of people who frequent these discussion croups,
it is probably Myers. Of course by this time, so few new TV programs are being produced. The recent three part Nat-Geo
documentary was the first new material I had seen in years.
Ben Holmes
Dec 14, 2023, 5:35:58 PM12/14/23
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 11:54:49 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It think you could convince most SBT skeptics regarding the validity of those clips.
Provably a lie.
<jecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It think you could convince most SBT skeptics regarding the validity of those clips.
>If I had any doubt about the SBT when I
>saw those clips, they were certainly erased.
>I had been aware of jacket bulge at Z224 long before...
You'll **NEVER** cite for this lie.
I deleted the rest of your word vomit.
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