What Did Judyth Know?
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way Judyth would ever merit a book would be if "she has personal
knowledge of the assassination of John F. Kennedy." Well, Shackelford
was back the next day stating "Judyth has made no claim to personal
knowledge of the assassination of President Kennedy. She wasn't in
Dallas. Any claim to the contrary is based on nothing accurate."
Of course, we all know J wasn't in Dallas for JFK's assassination (she
was packing to meet Oswald in a "fine hotel" in Cancun) but what about
those 12 or 13 phone calls she claimed in draft chapters of her book to
have made to Oswald over some kind of Mob WATS line in the weeks
leading up to the assassination? J told us they discussed the
assassination at length and Oswald even discussed firing a "warning
shot" at the Presidential motorcade. (Brilliant, huh?) Of course,
maybe they got rid of that stuff in the final draft althoough I doubt
anyone on Team Judyth is smart enough for that. Judyth just better
hope the Secret Service (like all of us) doesn't believe her. Might
charge her as an accessory.
JGL
Martin
spell the name of his own ally McNally.
As for the matter of Judyth having "personal knowledge of the
assassination of John F. Kennedy," in the sense of having been present
as a witness, that has never been claimed by anyone. She was, however,
in occasional touch with him by phone up until a few days prior to
November 22.
McNally and Leyden would seem to be taking the position that detailed
knowledge of the personality and character of Lee Oswald, and detailed
knowledge of his activities during the summer of 1963, as well as
addiitional new information regarding his trip to Mexico City, wouldn't
"merit a book." This is ridiculous.
Leyden uses the occasion to once again repeat the "Cancun"
myth.generated some time ago by his fellow Judyth-haters.
He then proceeds to imagine fantasy versions of a book he hasn't read.
Too bad the Know Nothing Party no longer exists--Leyden would make a
perfect candidate.
Martin
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knowledge" of the JFK assassination. But you never can tell because
he's kinda shifty. (For example, when the Cancun reference blew up in
Team Judyth's collective face, the Shack said she meant "Kankun" and
who know what that means.) Makes it hard to stay a step ahead of him.
But I've become kind of an expert in Shackspeak so I know what he's
really saying here is that Judyth wasn't in Dallas on 11/22/63 so she
couldn't have personal or first-hand knowledge of the assassination.
He discounts the alleged phone calls between the two ("occassional"
phone contacts in Shackspeak) where Judyth tells us in the unexpurgated
draft chapters of the book that they discussed the impending
assassination in detail. In the 11/20/63 conversation, for example,
Oswald talked about firing a "warning shot" at the presidential
motorcade (thus, Judyth puts a gun in his hands) and tells her they'll
meet up later in a "fine hotel" in Cancun (Kankun in Shackspeak). So
now that the Shack agrees with me, he needs to do something to correct
the erroneous promotion of the book on the Trafford wesite. It
promises to reveal what Judyth "knew about the assassination." The
answer, according to Shackelford, is nothing. So why buy the book if
it ever goes on sale again? Well, Judyth needs the money. There is a
guy in the Netherlands that claims he owes her a trunkload of Euros.
JGL
JLeyd...@aol.com
Neatherlands (not the other way around) a turnkload of Euros. That's
10,176 Euros to be exact. Multiply by $1.26 to get the amount in U.S.
dollars. She's got to sell a lot of books.
JGL
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> Oooops, slight mistake: The claim is that Judyth owes this guy in the
> Neatherlands (not the other way around) a turnkload of Euros. That's
> 10,176 Euros to be exact. Multiply by $1.26 to get the amount in U.S.
> dollars. She's got to sell a lot of books.
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So what? I can claim that you owe me $1,000,000 but that does not make
it a fact.
Martin
I didn't "discount" the phone calls--I just pointed out the obvious,
that they don't constitute "direct knowledge of the assassination."
Your foolish talk of "unexpurgated draft chapters" only shows your
ignorance of what's in the published book.
Your continued hammering at the "Cancun" matter--which wasn't originally
in ANY draft of the book, but was an error that crept in later and was
corrected--shows your purpose, which isn't getting at the truth.
As for the guy in Europe making the claim, NO MONEY is owed to him by
Judyth Baker. Not a cent.
Martin
JLeyd...@aol.com
"wasn't originally in ANY draft, but was an error that crept in
later..." But back on 12/13/00, he wrote, "I have learned today there
is a refrence to Cancun in the manuscript. I also learned that they
planned to go briefly to the area and she used the current name in
referring to it." That was the first of his many positions on Cancun
which did not exist in 1963 when Judyth said she plannned to link up in
a "fine hotel" with Oswald after he had finished with JFK. He later
tried blaming Howard Platzman for the "error" and, when Platzman tired
of playing patsy, he blamed Judyth's ex-agent. We know how that turned
out. The Shack had to tuck his tail between his legs and issue a
humilating on-line "Clarification, Correction and Retraction Regarding
Judyth's Agent." So you see why I don't believe anything he says
because I know he'll say someting different tomorrow. Yes, he and
Judyth make a great comedy team.
JGL
JLeyd...@aol.com
caught red-handed, so to speak. Smart move. Altho he's spent years
blaming everyone but Judyth for inserting the tell-tale Cancun
reference in her book -- the one that screamed "fraud" -- we uncovered
a Shack post in the Google archives, dated 12/13/2000, that freely
admitted Judyth was the author of the reference. Let me repeat it: "I
have learned today there is a reference to Cancun in the manuscript. I
also learned that they planned to go briefly to the area and she used
didn't exist in 1963 so the chances of Judyth and Lee hooking up in a
"fine hotel" we nil. Posters need to check the Google archives anytime
they're communicating with the Shack. Chances are he's changed his
story multiple times.
JGL
Martin
He refers to "Shackspeak"--Leyden-speak, of course, is when you know nothing and expound upon it at great length and with great frequency--starting up new threads on a regular basis. He knows the sorts of attacks he makes here would be rejected even by his allies on McAdams' newsgroup, so he does more posting here than he does there.
Once again, he completely misrepresents the Cancun issue, which was the subject of posting over a considerable period of time. He picks whatever bits and pieces he can use to mislead people.
He includes a statement that he knows to be false--saying "Cancun which didn't exist in 1963." In an earlier fraudulent post, one of his allies took a reference to Cancun and a reference to "a fine hotel," and squished them together into "a fine hotel in Cancun." Of course, Leyden repeats this nonsense again here. The "fine hotel," the Hotel Mayaland, was near the Mayan ruins in which she and Oswald were interested. Cancun was used as an identifier of the general area involved, which was the area of the Yucatan near the present location of the Cancun resort. Of course, it was THE RESORT which didn't exists in 1963. Cancun itself has been there for a very long time--"Cancun" first appears on a map of the area in 1787; then on another map from 1847 as "Cankun." . Leyden knows this, as the maps were posted at the time of the discussion. Or perhaps he simply "forgets" what doesn't fit his agenda.
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Ah, more Shackspeak.
Shackelford says here that the Cancun reference
"wasn't originally in ANY draft, but was an error that crept in
later..." But back on 12/13/00, he wrote, "I have learned
today
there
is a refrence to Cancun in the manuscript. I also
learned
that they
planned to go briefly to the area and she used the current name in
referring to it." That was the first of his many positions on Cancun
which did not exist in 1963 when Judyth said she plannned to link up in
a "fine hotel" with Oswald after he had finished with JFK. He
later
tried blaming Howard Platzman for the "error" and, when Platzman
tired
of playing patsy, he blamed Judyth's ex-agent. We know how that turned
out. The Shack had to tuck his tail between his legs and issue a
humilating on-line "Clarification, Correction and Retraction Regarding
Judyth's Agent." So you see why I don't believe anything he says
because I know he'll say someting different tomorrow. Yes, he and
Judyth make a great comedy team.
JGL
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history of the Yucatan. Bet you won't find that in any textbook. But
let's go to the chapter in Judyth's draft that started it all --
"Before the Silence Came, Lee's Last Telephone Calls." (It's available
on McAdams website.) Judyth wrote that Oswald told her, "You'll go to
Cancun. You'll staye in a fine hotel. I'll be there -- if they --"
She also told David Lifton the same story later. Well, then someone
blew the whistle and we found there was no Cancun (certainly no "fine
hotels") in 1963. Team Judyth went nuts and to date have authored
hundreds of posts trying to erase this seminal error that exposed
Judyth's whole story as a fraud and cast serious doubts on the IQ
levels of anyone who believed her.
JGL
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> tried blaming Howard Platzman for the "error" and, when Platzman tired
> of playing patsy, he blamed Judyth's ex-agent. We know how that turned
> out. The Shack had to tuck his tail between his legs and issue a
> humilating on-line "Clarification, Correction and Retraction Regarding
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> blaming everyone but Judyth for inserting the tell-tale Cancun
> reference in her book -- the one that screamed "fraud" -- we uncovered
> a Shack post in the Google archives, dated 12/13/2000, that freely
> admitted Judyth was the author of the reference. Let me repeat it: "I
> have learned today there is a reference to Cancun in the manuscript. I
> also learned that they planned to go briefly to the area and she used
> the current name in referring to it." The kicker here is that Cancun
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> I suppose the question should be "What Did Leyden Know?", but "nothing"
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> He refers to "Shackspeak"--Leyden-speak, of course, is when you know
> nothing and expound upon it at great length and with great
> frequency--starting up new threads on a regular basis. He knows the
> sorts of attacks he makes here would be rejected even by his allies on
> McAdams' newsgroup, so he does more posting here than he does there.<br>
> <br>
> Once again, he completely misrepresents the Cancun issue, which was the
> subject of posting over a considerable period of time. He picks
> whatever bits and pieces he can use to mislead people.<br>
> <br>
> He includes a statement that he knows to be false--saying "Cancun which
> didn't exist in 1963." In an earlier fraudulent post, one of his allies
> took a reference to Cancun and a reference to "a fine hotel," and
> squished them together into "a fine hotel in Cancun." Of course, Leyden
> repeats this nonsense again here. The "fine hotel," the Hotel Mayaland,
> was near the Mayan ruins in which she and Oswald were interested.
> Cancun was used as an identifier of the general area involved, which
> was the area of the Yucatan near the present location of the Cancun
> resort. Of course, it was THE RESORT which didn't exists in 1963.
> Cancun itself has been there for a very long time--"Cancun" first
> appears on a map of the area in 1787; then on another map from 1847 as
> "Cankun." . Leyden knows this, as the maps were posted at the time of
> the discussion. Or perhaps he simply "forgets" what doesn't fit his
> agenda.<br>
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> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">Ah, more Shackspeak.
> Shackelford says here that the </span><st1:place><span
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> planned to go briefly to the area and she used the current name in <br>
> referring to it." That was the first of his many positions on </span><st1:place><span
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> a "fine hotel" with Oswald after he had finished with JFK. He
> later <br>
> tried blaming Howard Platzman for the "error" and, when Platzman
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> out. The Shack had to tuck his tail between his legs and issue a <br>
> humilating on-line "Clarification, Correction and Retraction Regarding <br>
> Judyth's Agent." So you see why I don't believe anything he says <br>
> because I know he'll say someting different tomorrow. Yes, he and <br>
> Judyth make a great comedy team. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">Looks like the Shack is going
> to take a pass on this,
> knowing he's been <br>
> caught red-handed, so to speak. Smart move. Altho he's spent years <br>
> blaming everyone but Judyth for inserting the tell-tale </span><st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">Cancun</span></st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";"> <br>
> reference in her book -- the one that screamed "fraud" -- we
> uncovered <br>
> a Shack post in the Google archives, dated </span><st1:date year="2000"
> day="13" month="12"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">12/13/2000</span></st1:date><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">, that freely <br>
> admitted Judyth was the author of the reference. Let me repeat it:
> "I <br>
> have learned today there is a reference to </span><st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">Cancun</span></st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";"> in the manuscript. I <br>
> also learned that they planned to go briefly to the area and she used <br>
> the current name in referring to it." The kicker here is that </span><st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";">Cancun</span></st1:place><span
> style="font-family: "Times New Roman";"> <br>
> didn't exist in 1963 so the chances of Judyth and Lee hooking up in a <br>
> "fine hotel" we nil. Posters need to check the Google archives
> anytime <br>
> they're communicating with the Shack. Chances are he's changed his <br>
> story multiple times. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Martin
By all means, look for accurate information on McAdams pro-WC
anti-Judyth attack page.
Of course, Leyden doesn't know what she "later told David Lifton," as we
only have Lifton's paraphrases from a rather inaccurate summary of their
single phone call.
No "fine hotels" near the Mayan ruins in 1963? By the 1950s, there were
two. The first had been built in the 1930s, the Hotel Mayaland.
No Cancun in 1963? Leyden knows this is a bald-faced lie. He hopes that
if he repeats these lies often enough, they will be believed. Goebbels
said that's how propaganda works.
1787 and 1843 maps from the Library of Congress website were both posted
on the newsgroup he haunts.
Both have Cancun on them, though the second spells it "Cankun."
Leyden hopes readers will be dumb enough to believe that if the modern
RESORT of Cancun wasn't built until 1969 that there was "no Cancun in
1963." Of course there was a Cancun in 1963--just not the present-day
resort.
Martin
Grizzlie Antagonist
> My "revised history of the Yucatan"? Not found "in any textbook"?
> By all means, look for accurate information on McAdams pro-WC
> anti-Judyth attack page.
> Of course, Leyden doesn't know what she "later told David Lifton," as we
> only have Lifton's paraphrases from a rather inaccurate summary of their
> single phone call.
> No "fine hotels" near the Mayan ruins in 1963? By the 1950s, there were
> two. The first had been built in the 1930s, the Hotel Mayaland.
http://www.flightcentre.ca/destinations/lonelyplanet/index.jsp?destination=cancun-34012&sub=history
When, in 1902, it was finally given a name and territory status, it was
named after army general Andr?as Quintana Roo, although he'd never
served in the territory. In the late 1960s Isla Cancun was a sliver of
sand visited only by local fisherfolk and a few gringo adventurers.
When the Mexican government decided to develop a resort on the island,
the channels separating it from the mainland coast were bridged. Next,
a town sprang up (where Ciudad Cancun now stands) to house Isla
Cancun's construction workers and their families.
A well-paved street bordered by wide sidewalks was run down the centre
of the island. Many hectares of mangroves and scrub brush were ripped
out, scores of gardens were planted, and 'a very towered land', as one
16th-century Spanish historian described this coast, acquired even more
towers as multistorey resorts went up.
When Cancun opened in 1974, the carefully developed island - commonly
referred to as Cancun, Isla Cancun or the Zona Hotelera - was promoted
as a tropical paradise.
http://www.cancun-webs.com/webinformation.htm
This privileged island in southeast Mexico known as Cancun, with over
300,000 inhabitants, is the most important tourist destination in
country. This spot, found in northern Quentin Roo and on the Mexican
Caribbean coast, was chosen by presidential decree in 1971 to be one of
the most ambitious tourists developments of the decade. It is a long
stretch of white sand, approximately thirty kilometers long, that is
joined to the mainland by man-made bridges and bordered on the north
and east by the magnificent Caribbean Sea, on the west by the large
Nichupte Lagoon and on the south by the exuberant Mayan jungle of
Quintana Roo.
In the beginning, only sand and a few hotels could be seen beside the
untouched jungle and the unrivalled beauty of brilliant white dunes and
the lagoon. But the project grew more each year until it became what it
is today: one of the most sought after vacation spots of people from
all over the world.
http://www.cancunsteve.com/creature.html
Cancun's blossoming as a vacatioon paradise is a true Cinderella story.
Back in the late 50's and early 60's it was a sleepy fishing village.
Tourism was almost unknown; those that came did so to visit the Yucatan
Peninsula to see Chichen Itza or the charm of Merida. The coastline was
left for two types of visitors. Skin divers and scuba divers who
chartered private planes to take them to private coves and secluded
rocky shorelines. These were sad times as CancunSteve was not there to
help them.
Serious sun worshipers had unspoiled stretches of coco palm shore
almost to themselves.
Until 1961 the Yucatan was completely isolated from the rest of Mexico.
In that year a highway complete with pot-holes was opened to Chetumal
the capital of Quintana Roo the state that hosts Cancun. This opened
the peninsula. Then FONATUR a Mexican government agency decided the
transparent turquoise waters and sugar-white sand were prime
ingredients for the creation of a resort playground. All that was
missing was swank hotels; great discos; lovely malls and CancunSteve.
Bridges were built connecting both ends of the island to the mainland.
Then Cancun home to the ancient Maya and later a refuge for pirates
fell into the hands of modern developers.
The results have been awesome! At the beginning of the 70's Cancun
didn't even show up on the maps. A building boom began in the 80's and
is still going on. The local population mushroomed to over 400,000
full-time residents. The city attracts well over 2 million visitors
annually. Cancun is presently Mexico's most popular tourist destination
partly due to the flashy nightspots; chic restaurants; elegant hotels;
resorts;
JLeyd...@aol.com
the indefensible. That is, Judyth's claim that Oswald told her they
would link up in Cancun (which did not exist in 1963) after he had
dispatched JFK. "You'll go to Cancun,' he said. "You'll stay in a
fine hotel..." (Yada, Yada, Yada). Shack's even rewritten the history
of the Yucatan to accommodate her. More Yada, Yada, Yada.
Fortunately, I don't have to rebut him on that because "Grizzlie" has
done if for me. Check out his links.
But like everything else about Judyth's story, it's all absurd
nonsense. Oswald had $13.87 on him when arrested so he wasn't headed
for Cancun or any place else on the Yucatan. And Judyth was in Florida
still living with the husband she now claims she cheated on in New
Orleans as soon as his back was turned. More Yada stuff.
BTW to gauge the Shack's snide comments on his news group, punch up the
group's data base and you'll find the second all-time leading poster
is, that's right, the Shack with 10,854. The boy needs to get away
from the computer, get some fresh air, clear his head.
JGL