What is the political ideology of David Von Pein?

[Ramon F Herrera]

As most McAdams sycophants, I am convinced that Von Pein hates Obama.

Can anyone confirm/deny?

-Ramon

[Jason Burke]

And, uh, Ramon... Now just what self-seeking, parasitical reason would
you have for this?

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/22/2015 3:02 PM, Jason Burke wrote:
> And, uh, Ramon... Now just what self-seeking, parasitical reason would
> you have for this?
>

I have a very accurate model, which I am refining. It starts simplistically.

- All Liberals know that the Far Right murdered Kennedy in 1963. It
was a partisan hit and the divide persists, to this day.

- Conservatives (McAdams and sycophants) are Lone Nutters.


This obviously needs some revision. We have:

(a) Liberals who knows that the official version is a lie. See the
Kennedys, Clintons, Gore, John Kerry, Oliver Stone, Tony Marsh, Jim
Garrison, Jeff Morley, etc.

(b) Liberals who are terrified at the possibility that LBJ was
involved in the murder. Pres. Carter, Jean Davison and Edward J. Epstein
fall in this category.

The Conservative situation is far more interesting and is -as usual-
based on hatred:

(c) Those Conservatives who hate Democrats more than anything are
motivated by schadenfreude: "It was a freaking commie!!! One of your
own!!". McAdams and -I suspect- von Pein are in this group.

(d) Those Conservatives who, above all, hate the government. Those,
like Will Rogers, have never met a conspiracy they didn't like. See
Birthers, Truthers, InfoWars, Breitbart, etc.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories

Jason: Based on your comment, your motivation is clearly hatred: Are you
(c) or (d)?

-Ramon

[lazu...@gmail.com]

I think Von Pein is more a moderate. He's not an arch conservative.

[Ramon F Herrera]

Mr. Von Pein necessarily hates the Kennedys, since he is allying himself
with the people who murdered JFK. I am sure that America's most
important political family does not approve of what he does while using
that revered image, in the most hypocritical manner.

What DVP does with that avatar can be compared to primitive, savage
tribes, carrying around the head of the enemy that they decapitated.

At least John McAdams does not attempt to dissimulate his hatred towards
the Kennedys, president Obama and liberal ideas and people in general.

-RFH

[Jason Burke]

On 2/23/2015 10:35 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 2/23/2015 11:23 AM, lazu...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 12:02:40 PM UTC-8, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>> As most McAdams sycophants, I am convinced that Von Pein hates Obama.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm/deny?
>>>
>>> -Ramon
>>
>> I think Von Pein is more a moderate. He's not an arch conservative.
>>
>
> Mr. Von Pein necessarily hates the Kennedys, since he is allying himself
> with the people who murdered JFK. I am sure that America's most

You on crack?

> important political family does not approve of what he does while using
> that revered image, in the most hypocritical manner.
>
> What DVP does with that avatar can be compared to primitive, savage
> tribes, carrying around the head of the enemy that they decapitated.
>
> At least John McAdams does not attempt to dissimulate his hatred towards
> the Kennedys, president Obama and liberal ideas and people in general.
>
> -RFH
>
>

Okie dokie, Ramon.
You found out you were wrong, so you double down?!?

(Here's a hint. After 51 years there's no evidence that anyone other
than LHO was involved, no matter how much you cry and whine. Deal with it.)

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/23/2015 1:23 PM, Jason Burke wrote:
> (Here's a hint. After 51 years there's no evidence that anyone other
> than LHO was involved, no matter how much you cry and whine. Deal with it.)
>

Okay, you have identified yourself to be in Group (c):

Those Conservatives who hate Democrats more than anything are motivated
by schadenfreude: "It was a freaking commie!!! One of your own!!".
McAdams and -I suspect- von Pein are in this group.

BTW: This is the only evidence needed:

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/fifty-plus-one-the-unfinished-jfk-story/#comment-630547

... and this, is la pièce de résistance, of my authorship:

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/where-did-the-gunshot-that-killed-jfk-come-from/#comment-706404

If we CTs are wrong why don't you enlightened illuminated leave us alone
with our little games? Shoo, shoo....

-Ramon

[tom...@cox.net]

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[Jason Burke]

Oh, shut up, Rossfuck. You know as well as I do that there was no one
else involved.

And just in case your retarded / stupidity addled brain doesn't realize
it, there was no trial. You know, being as Oswald was dead and all. So
Ozzie could not even make a Rossturdly attempt to prove his "INNOSENCE"
(sic). Damn, you are so far gone you might as well jump into a
wood-chipper. I think we'd all be better off if you did.

[tom...@cox.net]

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[Jason Burke]

What the fork are you talking about, Rosstard?

Was your IQ *ever* over 50? Or have you been an imbecile your entire life?

Can you even spell "IQ", Mr. Newspaper Executive? How about if I spot
you two of the letters?

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/23/2015 10:41 PM, Jason Burke wrote:
> Can you even spell "IQ", Mr. Newspaper Executive? How about if I spot
> you two of the letters?
>

You two should get a room, or take it to the next level. Most states
welcome you now.

-RFH

[Jason Burke]

Rossfuck would probably like that.

[Jason Burke]

On 2/23/2015 1:12 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 2/23/2015 1:23 PM, Jason Burke wrote:
>> (Here's a hint. After 51 years there's no evidence that anyone other
>> than LHO was involved, no matter how much you cry and whine. Deal with
>> it.)
>>
>
> Okay, you have identified yourself to be in Group (c):
>
> Those Conservatives who hate Democrats more than anything are motivated
> by schadenfreude: "It was a freaking commie!!! One of your own!!".
> McAdams and -I suspect- von Pein are in this group.
>

Uh, Ramon. If you'd been paying attention instead of inventing the
internet, you'd know that years ago I served on a Berkeley city board. A
very minor one to be sure. Not sure they've elected many conservatives
in Berkeley in the past few generations.

But never let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh?

Though based on your last comment above, I'd suggest putting down the
crack pipe before you post.

> BTW: This is the only evidence needed:
>
> http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/fifty-plus-one-the-unfinished-jfk-story/#comment-630547

Face it, Ramon. You're still 0-fer-51 years.

>
>
> .... and this, is la pièce de résistance, of my authorship:

>
> http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/where-did-the-gunshot-that-killed-jfk-come-from/#comment-706404
>
>
> If we CTs are wrong why don't you enlightened illuminated leave us alone
> with our little games? Shoo, shoo....

Uh, Ramon. Such a precious comment! As mentioned above, your side is
0-fer-51 years. Try to keep up now, won't you?


>
> -Ramon
>

[Jason Burke]

Crack. Not just for breakfast anymore, eh, Ramon?

[Jason Burke]

Hey! You forgot (e), Ramon.

Now repeat after me:

"I, Ramon F Herrera, am a dipshit who has no idea what he's talking about."

Do it 500 times and you'll feel better about your pathetic existence.

[David Von Pein]

RAMON F. HERRERA ASKED:

What is the political ideology of David Von Pein?


DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:

I have none. None at all.

What makes you think I have any "political ideology", Ramon? Tea leaves? A Ouija board? I've never EVER talked "politics" on any Internet forum or on my own blogs.

Maybe you, Ramon, should stop trying to paint (i.e., smear) people with "ideologies" that do not apply at all.

I couldn't care less about politics. Never have. And if you're goofy enough to think I "hate" John Kennedy after visiting all my websites devoted exclusively to Mr. Kennedy and his family, then you're in dire need of a reality check.

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/24/2015 9:14 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> I couldn't care less about politics. Never have. And if you're goofy enough to think I "hate" John Kennedy after visiting all my websites devoted exclusively to Mr. Kennedy and his family, then you're in dire need of a reality check.
>

Would the Kennedys approve of your activities? Attempting to insult and
ridicule people who loved Jack and Jackie and are still in pain, due to
(what they consider to be) a miscarriage of justice?

The answer is a resonant "NO".

A psychiatrist could clarify your motivations better. It is fascinating
how you claim not to have any political ideology. That could be a good
start.

-Ramon The Amateur Shrink

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/24/2015 9:02 PM, YouTu...@aol.com wrote:
> Maybe you, Ramon, should stop trying to paint (i.e., smear) people with "ideologies" that do not apply at all.
>

Attempting to classify somebody as Liberal or Conservative is hardly a
smear. Notice the question mark in the subject line.

Do you vote? Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012? What is your opinion
about our president Barack Obama?

BTW: My motivation is quite simple: as a computer specialist, I always
try to categorize and simplify. See my model below. The problem is that
you are the odd man out, an outlier. Now you tell us that you are not
even in the group with Jean Davison and J. Edward Epstein.

More questions: how does it make you feel when some evidence toward the
LN theory is revealed? You seem to be over enjoyed, almost ecstatic.

-Ramon The Free Usenet Shrink - No Appointment Necessary

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[David Von Pein]

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:15:34 AM UTC-5, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On 2/24/2015 9:02 PM, YouTu...@aol.com wrote:
> > Maybe you, Ramon, should stop trying to paint (i.e., smear) people with "ideologies" that do not apply at all.
> >
>
> Attempting to classify somebody as Liberal or Conservative is hardly a
> smear. Notice the question mark in the subject line.
>
> Do you vote?

Nope. Never have.

> Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?

Nobody.

> What is your opinion
> about our president Barack Obama?

I have none.

[Jason Burke]

Ah, Ramon will attempt to smear ya anyway.
Oh, sorry. "Classify" you.

[David Von Pein]

He'll probably just conclude that I am a liar....because he'll probably say something like this:

How can an American citizen, living in the state of Indiana (USA) in the year 2015, possibly *not* have any opinion at all about the current President of the United States?

But, as JFK liked to say with relish in many of his speeches, "the fact of the matter is..." ..... I have absolutely *no opinion* (be it good or bad) about Barack H. Obama.

And the reason is: I'm too ignorant of the facts surrounding anything to do with his Presidency to have an informed opinion about him. For the most part (99% or so), I haven't the slightest idea what Obama has done in his six years in office. Not the slightest. So I can't possibly offer up an informed opinion about the man as President.

I live almost exclusively in the 1960s. And have for years. I find it's much nicer there.

http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2014/05/whats-my-line.html

[David Von Pein]

Hilarious stuff there. Herrera's nonsensical explanation for my wanting to use an image of President Kennedy on the Internet can only elicit fits of laughter from reasonable and rational people.

Herrera evidently likes the idea of placing people he knows **nothing** about into his cozy little predefined cubbyholes -- like "Conservative", "Liberal", "Kennedy Hater", and "Hypocritical". I, for one, hate such labels. I always have. Fact is, I'm none of the above. And never have been.

But just keep on talking as if you know me inside-out, Ramon. I don't mind. I'm enjoying the show, as I watch you make a complete fool out of yourself.

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/26/2015 6:55 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> But just keep on talking as if you know me inside-out, Ramon. I don't mind. I'm enjoying the show, as I watch you make a complete fool out of yourself.
>

Have you enjoyed the suffering of others for long? Maybe you can recall
some child experience?

-Ramon The Usenet Shrink who has many Psychiatrists as friends (even
relatives) and who has spent countless hours learning with them, and books.


ps: I DO NOT know the inside-out. Hence my curiosity. Didn't you notice
the question mark in the subject line? So we fans of yours are supposed
to watch and read you copious material and yet you won't share details
such as you inner motivation with us?

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 2/26/2015 6:28 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> I live almost exclusively in the 1960s. And have for years. I find it's much nicer there.
>

Now we are getting somewhere! Me, I live with one foot in 1960s and
another in 2015. (Actually I have 3rd. and 4th. feet in Watergate, HSCA...)

I hope you are aware you are a fascinating, unique individual. A
category must be created, just for you.

-Ramon The Free Internet Shrink

[David Von Pein]

Ramon, are you in the habit of making statements such as the ones repeated below without knowing *anything* at all about the person you're talking about? IOW, what would have caused you to write the following comments?....

"I am convinced that Von Pein hates Obama. .... Mr. Von Pein necessarily hates the Kennedys." -- Ramon F. Herrera

[David Von Pein]

RAMON F. HERRERA SAID:

So we fans of yours are supposed to watch and read you[r] copious material and yet you won't share details such as you[r] inner motivation with us?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/dvp-interview-about-television-and-jfk.html

[David Von Pein]

You couldn't be more incorrect about the "fascinating" part, Ramon. In truth, you probably wouldn't be able to locate on the planet a more boring and LESS fascinating individual than myself. But thanks anyway. (I think.) :-)

[tom...@cox.net]

DAVID VON PAIN (IN THE ASS) IS A CHARTER MEMBE OF " NAMBLA" ! ! !
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YouTu...@aol.com wrote:
> RAMON F. HERRERA ASKED:
>
> What is the political ideology of David Von Pein?
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> I have none. None at all.
>
> What makes you think I have any "political ideology", Ramon? Tea leaves?
> A Ouija board? I've never EVER talked "politics" on any Internet forum or
> on my own blogs.
>

> Maybe you, Ramon, should stop trying to paint (i.e., smear) people with
> "ideologies" that do not apply at all.
>

> I couldn't care less about politics. Never have. And if you're goofy
> enough to think I "hate" John Kennedy after visiting all my websites
> devoted exclusively to Mr. Kennedy and his family, then you're in dire
> need of a reality check.

[Jason Burke]

On 3/19/2015 7:42 PM, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> DAVID VON PAIN (IN THE ASS) IS A CHARTER MEMBE OF " NAMBLA" ! ! !
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>
>
>
> YouTu...@aol.com wrote:
>> RAMON F. HERRERA ASKED:
>>
>> What is the political ideology of David Von Pein?
>>
>> DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>>
>> I have none. None at all.
>>
>> What makes you think I have any "political ideology", Ramon? Tea leaves?
>> A Ouija board? I've never EVER talked "politics" on any Internet forum or
>> on my own blogs.
>>
>> Maybe you, Ramon, should stop trying to paint (i.e., smear) people with
>> "ideologies" that do not apply at all.
>>
>> I couldn't care less about politics. Never have. And if you're goofy
>> enough to think I "hate" John Kennedy after visiting all my websites
>> devoted exclusively to Mr. Kennedy and his family, then you're in dire
>> need of a reality check.
>

Hey, Shitturd! ! !
I'll bet your mama wishes she got the rest of you (instead of just the
brain,) with that coat hanger.

But if that happened, Ellen would still be "entertaining" the fleet, huh?