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Steve

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Aug 23, 2009, 11:49:00 PM8/23/09
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All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks. Here
is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
viewpoint.

Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
eyewitnesses? Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
before the limousine could be photographed close up. How do you group
of nuts explain this event?

I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
their moment in the spotlight.

cdddraftsman

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:06:28 AM8/24/09
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Jesus Christ are you trying to give the Jtards a heart attack ?

If it were not for everything being filmed in full view Tardshits
wouldn't have anything to cry about .

tl

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David Von Pein

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:26:13 AM8/24/09
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>>> "If it were not for everything being filmed in full view, [the Anybody-But-Oswald conspiracy kooks] wouldn't have anything to cry about." <<<

Yes. And that would include the brilliant part of the "Let's Frame
Oswald" plot that had Tom Alyea being allowed not only to stay on the
sixth floor of the TSBD while Lt. Day and Captain Fritz, et al, were
supposedly in the process of "planting" evidence (etc.)....but Alyea
was permitted to FILM THE CONSPIRATORS AT WORK TOO!

Ya gotta love that for friendly assassination plotters and cover-up
operatives! (Those good-ol'-boy cops WERE super-friendly in Texas,
weren't they?)

==========================

WILL FRITZ TO CARL DAY -- "Hey, Carl, do you mind this cameraman being
up here with a movie camera?"

CARL DAY -- "Well, uh, I don't see why not, JW. After all, we're not
doin' nothin' wrong. We're only manufacturing and planting evidence
all over the place to railroad that Oswald character. So why shouldn't
that WFAA camera guy be up here filmin'? Heck, let's invite Mal Couch
and Dave Wiegman up here with their cameras too! And maybe even that
Zapruder guy and Mary Moorman too! Ten-four?!"

=========================

aeffects

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Aug 24, 2009, 1:07:41 AM8/24/09
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On Aug 23, 8:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hey shithead.... only nutter-trolls are answering you..... what-the-
fuck, OVAH?

Robert

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Aug 24, 2009, 11:17:32 AM8/24/09
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Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
shooting?

Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
area he just 'FLED" from?

Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
for the Mexican border?

Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
on it?

There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
Steve-O and you ran! Why should we constantly answer your silly
questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?

bigdog

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Aug 24, 2009, 11:51:04 AM8/24/09
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On Aug 24, 11:17 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> > amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks.  Here
> > is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> > viewpoint.
>
> > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > eyewitnesses?  Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> > gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> > before the limousine could be photographed close up.  How do you group
> > of nuts explain this event?
>
> > I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> > their moment in the spotlight.
>
> Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
> weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
> shooting?
>
Dumbfuck, if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt at the time of the
shooting, how do you explain that his former landlady saw him on the
bus wearing that shirt just a few minutes after the shooting. How do
you explain how the bus transfer he obtained as he left the bus was in
the pocket of that shirt. Do you think he changed shirts before he
left the TSBD? Or maybe he changed shirts while walking to the spot
where he boarded the bus.

> Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> area he just 'FLED" from?
>

It looks to me that Oswald didn't want to spend a whole lot of time at
or near the scene of his crime.

> Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> for the Mexican border?
>

Maybe he was trying to get out of sight of all the police cars that
were sailing up and down Jefferson St with the sirens blaring. Just a
hunch.

> Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> on it?
>

Why do you assume there should be?

> There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?

Here's a question I ask in all seriousness. How can you be so fucking
stupid?

Robert

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:11:46 PM8/24/09
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On Aug 24, 11:51 am, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 11:17 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> > > amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks.  Here
> > > is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> > > viewpoint.
>
> > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > eyewitnesses?  Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> > > gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> > > before the limousine could be photographed close up.  How do you group
> > > of nuts explain this event?
>
> > > I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> > > their moment in the spotlight.
>
> > Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
> > weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
> > shooting?
>
> Dumbfuck, if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt at the time of the
> shooting, how do you explain that his former landlady saw him on the
> bus wearing that shirt just a few minutes after the shooting.

I don't put any stock in Mrs. Bledsoe's testimony as she could NOT
even say if he was wearing a t-shirt or not! How can she remember a
shirt if she couldn't see a white t-shirt? Furthermore, there is NO
evidence, and certainly NO proof LHO ever stayed at her house when the
WC claimed he did. Thus, there is NO connection that has been proven
between Bledsoe and LHO. Thus, she probably didn't know LHO from a
hole in a ground.

> How do
> you explain how the bus transfer he obtained as he left the bus was in
> the pocket of that shirt.

I don't, I ask you folks instead why did he take a bus transfer that
had ALREADY EXPIRED (15 minute usuage window) with him? This is a
pure indication that transfer was claimed to have been found to frame
him and give them an "escape" scenario.

> Do you think he changed shirts before he
> left the TSBD? Or maybe he changed shirts while walking to the spot
> where he boarded the bus.

He changed shirts when he stopped at the boarding house, thus the
fibers should and could NOT have been on the alleged murder weapon
even IF LHO was the shooter.


> > Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> > area he just 'FLED" from?
>
> It looks to me that Oswald didn't want to spend a whole lot of time at
> or near the scene of his crime.

Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?


> > Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> > for the Mexican border?
>
> Maybe he was trying to get out of sight of all the police cars that
> were sailing up and down Jefferson St with the sirens blaring. Just a
> hunch.

Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?


> > Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> > on it?
>
> Why do you assume there should be?

LOL!! This is the dumbest thing you have ever said! LOL!!

> > There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> > Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> > questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?
>
> Here's a question I ask in all seriousness. How can you be so fucking
> stupid?

LOL!! This moron thinks it is odd that tissue, blood and clothing
striations should be on the bullet and fragments that were supposedly
inside the victims, but I'm the stupid one! LOL!!!

Walt

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:14:08 PM8/24/09
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On Aug 24, 10:51 am, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 11:17 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> > > amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks.  Here
> > > is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> > > viewpoint.
>
> > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > eyewitnesses?  Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> > > gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> > > before the limousine could be photographed close up.  How do you group
> > > of nuts explain this event?
>
> > > I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> > > their moment in the spotlight.
>
> > Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
> > weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
> > shooting?
>
> Dumbfuck, if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt at the time of the
> shooting, how do you explain that his former landlady saw him on the
> bus wearing that shirt just a few minutes after the shooting.

if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt at the time of the shooting, how
do you explain that his former landlady saw him on the bus wearing
that shirt just a few minutes after the shooting.

You really should get your head out of your ass and learn the FACTS.
Aren't you tired of making a fool of yourself by not knowing the
FACTS.

FACT.... The shirt that May Bledsoe saw Oswald wearing on the bus
just minutes after the shooting was a DARK REDDISH BROWN shirt wit a
LARGE HOLE in the right elbow.


FACT.... the shirt that Oswald was wearing at the time of his arrest
(about an hour after Mrs Bledsoe saw him ) was a GRAYISH TAN (tawny)
colored shirt and THERE WAS NO HOLE in the elbow of that shirt.


The FBI claimed that they had found fibers on the butt of the rifle
which matched the GRAYISH TAN (tawny) colored shirt that Oswald was
wearing at the time of his arrest.

If you can't understand that there is a big problem with this.....you
have to be an idiot.

How do you explain how the bus transfer he obtained as he left the bus
was in the pocket of that shirt.


Funny thing about that bus transfer...... It didn't appear until AFTER
thr cops had searched Oswald's room and took all of his possessions in
that room into evidence. One of the items that they took into
evidence was the REDISH BROWN shirt. Photos of that bus transfer
show that it was in pristine condition. This would not be unusual if
Oswald had put that transfer in that REDDISH BROWN shirt pocket and
then left it in his room. But it would be unusual for that bus
transfer to remain in pristine condition if it had been in the pocket
of a man running and sweating on that warm humid day. And it wouldn't
remain pristine in the pocket of a shirt that had been nearly ripped
from Oswald's back in the struggle in the theater.

How do you explain that all other items in Oswald's pockets were
removed when he was taken to Captain Fritz's office, but the bus
transfer was not inventoried until a couple of hours later??about

Do you think he changed shirts before he
> left the TSBD? Or maybe he changed shirts while walking to the spot
> where he boarded the bus.
>
> > Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> > area he just 'FLED" from?
>
> It looks to me that Oswald didn't want to spend a whole lot of time at
> or near the scene of his crime.
>
> > Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> > for the Mexican border?
>
> Maybe he was trying to get out of sight of all the police cars that
> were sailing up and down Jefferson St with the sirens blaring. Just a
> hunch.
>
> > Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> > on it?
>
> Why do you assume there should be?
>
> > There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> > Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> > questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?
>
> Here's a question I ask in all seriousness. How can you be so fucking

> stupid?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

bigdog

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:41:12 PM8/24/09
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Is it really that hard for you to figure out that people could
describe a tan shirt in numerous different ways, none of which is
particularly exacting. Are we really supposed to believe that Oswald
just happened to change to a shirt that exactly matched the fibers
found on the butt plate of the rifle that had been delivered to his PO
Box, that was found on the 6th floor of the building he worked at, and
was positively matched to two bullet fragments found in the
Presidential limo and the bullet found in the ER that treated both JFK
and JBC? In other words, are we supposed to act as stupid as you seem
to be by nature?

Steve

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Aug 24, 2009, 12:50:59 PM8/24/09
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Hey Robert you big dumbass I've explained these things over and over
and over. But talking to a conspiracy-believing dumbass like you is
like talking to a photograph of a chicken.

Here for the 100th time is the explanation. Please try to focus and
follow my answers you big idiot.

1. The fibers found in the rifle establishes beyohnd ALL doubt that
Oswald was in possession and USED the rifle that you nuts claim was
planted by others and was never owned by Oswald. The fibers prove
that Oswald not only owned the murder weapon but that he had used it
at some point in time. Got it you big dummy?

2. Because this bus would take him towards his boarding house. And
if he could get there fast enough he could possibly establish a phony
alibi as to his whereabouts at the time of the assassination.
Besides, you wrongly assume that Oswald's getaway was carefully
planned and executed ingeniously. A LOT of guilty people make stupid
mistakes in their attempted getaway. The fact that he didn't calmly
sit at the corner of Elm and Houston waiting for the bus is evidence
dripping with guilt that Oswald was fleeing the scene of his crime.

3. Who knows why he went to the movie theater instead of Mexico.
This is a stupid question and has NO answer. If he HAD gone to Mexico
then you coinspiracy dumbasses would cry, "Why would Oswald try to
flee across an international border which he would KNOW would be
guarded after a presidential assassination. You conspiracy morons
love to butter your bread on both sides. But this question is just
plain stupid.

4. This is another stupid question. The fact that the bullets and
fragments wer traced to Oswald's rifle, and the fact that they were
NOT found in the victims and the fact that they WERE found in front of
the victims (except for CE 399) is anough for me to believe that
Oswald fired them. Of course NO amount of evidence is sufficient for
the conspiracy idiots out there so this question doesn't trouble me in
the least.

Believe me Roberto. An idiot like you will NEVER pose a question that
I will run from. Now, having answered these questions again, you will
be making the claim in ten days that I ran from your dumbass
observations. Some things never change.


Now, why don't YOU explain your convoluted spin on the bucket outside
the limousine. I would LOVE to hear how your dumbass mind interprets
this event.

Steve

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Aug 24, 2009, 2:37:38 PM8/24/09
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> this event.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Isn't it entertaining to watch how the conspiracy nuts avoid
explaining in detail their suspicions. They know how stupid their
theories often are so when someone challenges them to explain in
detail what these suspiciions of theirs mean they run like frightened
little children. Where is Giltards, where is Rosstards, only Robert
responded and he avoided the bucket question like the plague. He only
wanted to bring up non-related issues since he knows how stupid he
sounds when he explains his suspicions outloud.

Now can you see why I get such enjoyment listening to conspiracy
mental patients desperately attempt do defend their losing position?

drummist1965

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Aug 24, 2009, 2:44:11 PM8/24/09
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How in the world did the discussion change from the bucket at
Parkland, to the shirt Oswaldovich was wearing?

drummist1965

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Aug 24, 2009, 2:52:23 PM8/24/09
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On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Steve,
There is absolutely no evidence that the agent was "cleaning out" the
back seat of the limo. In fact, there is evidence to disprove that
claim in the matter of color photographs taken at the White House
garage. It is possible that the agent was gathering Mrs. Kennedy's
belongings from the rear seat, (purse & pill box hat which she removed
from her head) and was phohotgraphd while doing so. SS Agent Hickey is
shown carrying raincoats and headpieces from the JFK limo, in footage
taken at Parkland. The lining of one of the raincoats match the lining
of the rain coat SS Kellerman tosses into the limo, at Love Field. As
far as the bucket goes, I think that it is possible that the bucket
was used to wash off blood and brain matter that had, no doubt,
splattered onto the fixtures that the roof of the car attached to.

Steve

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Aug 24, 2009, 3:19:26 PM8/24/09
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That is exactly my point. You will notice that the nuts out there
don't want to explain too deeply the logic and the reasoning behind
their conspiratorial suspicions, because to do so would expose them as
the nuts they are. I agree--we don't know exactly what was the agent
with the bucket was doing since we only have a couple of photographs
showing him and the bucket it is entirely conjecture--however the
conspiracy crazies out there have a litany or explanation THEY have
for the bucket and the agent's actions. However when challenged to
articulate these ridiculous theories they are strangely silent.

It is an interesting fact to note that when the nuts have the floor to
ASK questions they never shut up, but when asked to ANSWER questions
they are often uncomfortably silent. Some things will never change.

Walt

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Aug 24, 2009, 3:39:48 PM8/24/09
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Ah but we have photographs which show the color of the shirt Oswald
was wearing at the Texas theater.... It's a dark TAWNY gray color. and
we have photographs that were taken in the police station which show
that there was NO HOLE in the elbow of the shirt he was wearing at the
Theater.

And we have the reports of the cops who searched Oswald's room which
give the exact DESCRIPTION of the shirt they found in his dresser. It
was DARK REDDISH BROWN.

No then ..... You are arguing that the fibers of the arrest shirt
matched the fibers on the butt of the rifle, in a feeble attempt to
make it look like Oswald had the rifle to his shoulder while wearing
that dark TAWNY shirt.....so you're admitting that Oswald was NOT
NOT wearing a "WHITE" shirt as Howard Brennan said he saw the 6th
floor gunman wearing.

Are we really supposed to believe that Oswald
just happened to change to a shirt that exactly matched the fibers
found on the butt plate of the rifle that had been delivered to his
PO
Box, that was found on the 6th floor of the building he worked at,
and
was positively matched to two bullet fragments found in the
Presidential limo and the bullet found in the ER that treated both
JFK
and JBC?

other words, are we supposed to act as stupid as you seem

> to be by nature?- Hide quoted text -

tomnln

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:01:32 PM8/24/09
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"drummist1965" <snl1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:edb0bd7e-610e-4587...@a13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks. Here
> is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> viewpoint.
>
> Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> eyewitnesses? Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> before the limousine could be photographed close up. How do you group
> of nuts explain this event?
>
> I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> their moment in the spotlight.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
barbara wrote;

Steve,
There is absolutely no evidence that the agent was "cleaning out" the
back seat of the limo. In fact, there is evidence to disprove that
claim in the matter of color photographs taken at the White House
garage. It is possible that the agent was gathering Mrs. Kennedy's
belongings from the rear seat, (purse & pill box hat which she removed
from her head) and was phohotgraphd while doing so. SS Agent Hickey is
shown carrying raincoats and headpieces from the JFK limo, in footage
taken at Parkland. The lining of one of the raincoats match the lining
of the rain coat SS Kellerman tosses into the limo, at Love Field. As
far as the bucket goes, I think that it is possible that the bucket
was used to wash off blood and brain matter that had, no doubt,
splattered onto the fixtures that the roof of the car attached to.


I write;

Here's what Swishy steve barber MISSED....

Volume XXI-pages 217-226.
Joe L. Richards.
Shirley Randall
Time Mag, 11/29/63 page 24
N Y Times 11/23/63 page 2
Bishop Page 352
Manchester Page 180
Curry Page 36


tomnln

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:07:36 PM8/24/09
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steve (toad) hasn't read the testimony ! ! !

Parkland employees were Ordered to bring a bucket of water to "Wash out the
Limo"

SEE Volume XXI pages 217-226.

"Steve" <sahi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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drummist1965

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:29:43 PM8/24/09
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On Aug 24, 4:07 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> steve (toad) hasn't read the testimony ! ! !
>
> Parkland employees were Ordered to bring a bucket of water to "Wash out the
> Limo"
>
> SEE Volume XXI pages 217-226.
>
> "Steve" <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Steve*has* read the testimony, and, I don't care if they were
"told to wash out the back of the limo" they clearly did no such thing!

drummist1965

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:30:25 PM8/24/09
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On Aug 24, 4:01 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "drummist1965" <snl141...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigdog

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:41:21 PM8/24/09
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What does what you put any stock in have to do with reality. Nobody
care what a fucking moron like you thinks. If she hadn't been his
landlady, how the fuck would she have recognized him? How the fuck did
she notice the hole in the elbow of the shirt or was it just a lucky
guess that he would go home and put on a different shirt that had a
hole in the same place where she described. How the fuck can you
stupid asswipes keep reaching for these ridiculous excuses to deny
what an entire body of evidence so clearly indicates. This body of
evidence screams a very simple message. OSWALD DID IT, YOU STUPID
FUCKING MORONS.

> > How do
> > you explain how the bus transfer he obtained as he left the bus was in
> > the pocket of that shirt.
>
> I don't, I ask you folks instead why did he take a bus transfer that
> had ALREADY EXPIRED (15 minute usuage window) with him?  This is a
> pure indication that transfer was claimed to have been found to frame
> him and give them an "escape" scenario.
>

Right, dumbass, the cops just planted that bus transfer on him and
just happened to know what bus he would get on so they could plant a
transfer with the unique hole punch assigned to that driver.

> > Do you think he changed shirts before he
> > left the TSBD? Or maybe he changed shirts while walking to the spot
> > where he boarded the bus.
>
> He changed shirts when he stopped at the boarding house, thus the
> fibers should and could NOT have been on the alleged murder weapon
> even IF LHO was the shooter.
>

Right, fuckhead. He just happened to change to a shirt that perfectly
matched the fibers found on the butt plate of the rifle.

> > > Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> > > area he just 'FLED" from?
>
> > It looks to me that Oswald didn't want to spend a whole lot of time at
> > or near the scene of his crime.
>
> Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?
>
> > > Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> > > for the Mexican border?
>
> > Maybe he was trying to get out of sight of all the police cars that
> > were sailing up and down Jefferson St with the sirens blaring. Just a
> > hunch.
>
> Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?
>

Do you have anything inside your skull other than a few pounds of
shit.

> > > Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> > > on it?
>
> > Why do you assume there should be?
>
> LOL!! This is the dumbest thing you have ever said!  LOL!!
>

Which isn't nearly as dumb as the smartest thing you have ever said.

> > > There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> > > Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> > > questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?
>
> > Here's a question I ask in all seriousness. How can you be so fucking
> > stupid?
>
> LOL!! This moron thinks it is odd that tissue, blood and clothing
> striations should be on the bullet and fragments that were supposedly
> inside the victims, but I'm the stupid one!  

No, you aren't the stupid ONE? You are a member of an army of
thousands which constitutes what is the absolutely stupidest fucking
collection of morons on the planet, people who have seen the evidence
against Oswald and continue to deny his guilt. You will make up the
most ridiculous rationalizations to avoid evidence that indicates
clearly and unequivocally the Oswald was the killer. It is amazing
people who are as stupid as your are even able to survive on a day to
day basis without assisted living. The only mystery to me is how
people so stupid can even function in their daily lives.

tomnln

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Aug 24, 2009, 4:47:29 PM8/24/09
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BOTTOM POST;

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steve-toad wrote;

Isn't it entertaining to watch how the conspiracy nuts avoid
explaining in detail their suspicions. They know how stupid their
theories often are so when someone challenges them to explain in
detail what these suspiciions of theirs mean they run like frightened
little children. Where is Giltards, where is Rosstards, only Robert
responded and he avoided the bucket question like the plague. He only
wanted to bring up non-related issues since he knows how stupid he
sounds when he explains his suspicions outloud.

Now can you see why I get such enjoyment listening to conspiracy
mental patients desperately attempt do defend their losing position?

I write;

I already responded to the Bucket issue.

Parkland employees were ordered to get a bucket of water to wash out the
Limo.

SEE.....
XXI-pages 221-226.
Joe L. Richards
Testimony of Shirly Randall
Curry page 36
Manchester page 180
Bishop page 352


N Y Times 11/23/63 page 2

Time Mag. 11/29/63 page 24

NEVER any intelligence whether he posts under the name of toad vaughan OR,
steve ! ! !

tomnln

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barbara wrote;

Steve*has* read the testimony, and, I don't care if they were
"told to wash out the back of the limo" they clearly did no such thing!

I write;

HERE's what you MISSED Oh Portly one !

I already responded to the Bucket issue.

Parkland employees were ordered to get a bucket of water to wash out the
Limo.

SEE.....
XXI-pages 221-226.
Joe L. Richards
Testimony of Shirly Randall
Curry page 36
Manchester page 180
Bishop page 352
N Y Times 11/23/63 page 2
Time Mag. 11/29/63 page 24

NEVER any intelligence whether he posts under the name of toad vaughan OR,
steve ! ! !

barbara is STILL an Asshole !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm
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tomnln

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Portly barbara wrote;

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I write;

Sounds like barbara is "Choking" on her own testimony/records ! ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm

barbara has been Spitting on 90% of Americans for decades !
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drummist1965

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

drummist1965

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> "drummist1965" <snl141...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve

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> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------------------------------------------

> > barbara wrote;
>
> >     Steve*has* read the testimony, and, I don't care if they were
> > "told to wash out the back of the limo" they clearly did no such thing!
>
> > I write;
>
> > HERE's what you MISSED Oh Portly one !
>
> > I already responded to the Bucket issue.
>
> > Parkland employees were ordered to get a bucket of water to wash out the
> > Limo.
>
> > SEE.....
> > XXI-pages 221-226.
> > Joe L. Richards
> > Testimony of Shirly Randall
> > Curry page 36
> > Manchester page 180
> > Bishop page 352
> > N Y Times 11/23/63 page 2
> > Time Mag. 11/29/63 page 24
>
> > NEVER any intelligence whether he posts under the name of toad vaughan OR,
> > steve ! ! !
>
> > barbara is STILL an Asshole !
>
> > SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------------
>
>      LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

So Rosstards you attempted to skirt the issue but I wasn't fooled.
Remember I am a well-educated teacher and I am not fooled when someone
avoids answering a question.

So please Tom Tom tell us all why the Secret Service agent was
cleaning out the back of the limousine? What was his goal or motive
for such an action? I'm sure in that stupid website of yours you've
got some document you can refer to to explain what was REALLY going on
there in full view of the media and hundreds of witnesses. Please,
Tom here is your chance to shine. Do tell us all what was REALLY
happening.

tomnln

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

NOW, barbara "Laughs in the face of 90% of Americans !

barbara "Spits in the faces of the 58,000 GI's who came home from NAM in
body bags!

barbara doesn't believe any American should address official
evidence/testimony.
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm

barbara believes in NAZI Justice! (Guilt by "Accusation")

barbara is a Felon Supporter !
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drummist1965

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

tomnln

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barbara wrote;

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

I write;

barbara /shits her panties when confronted with official evidence/testimony.

HAHAHAHAHA

If you ever see this face; CALL INTERPOL IMMEDIATELY ! ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm

America's Enemies are Closer than you Think !
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If you were more educated teach.... You'd know that there are many
photographs of the back seat of the Lincoln which were taken at the
White house Garage that night which show all the blood and gore on the
seats along with the flowers and what appears to be a small stuffed
animal....Any intelligent and astute person who sees those photos will
know that the back seat of the Lincoln was NOT washed out at Parkland
hospital. The photos of the Secret Service agent in the back seat of
the Lincoln is preparing to put the "bubble top" on the car.

drummist1965

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LOLOLOL!! Tom, I look NOTHING like that, anymore.

drummist1965

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No flowers, and no "stuffed animal". There never was a "stuffed
animal" to begin with. It iwas a bouquet of asters, as I recall. Film
taken at Love Field, from Mrs. Kennedy's side of the limo, close up,
prove that it is a bouquet of flowers, not a stuffed animal.
The object, however, that you are referring to is a white hankie.

tomnln

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toad vaughan "IN DRAG" wrote;

So Rosstards you attempted to skirt the issue but I wasn't fooled.
Remember I am a well-educated teacher and I am not fooled when someone
avoids answering a question.

So please Tom Tom tell us all why the Secret Service agent was
cleaning out the back of the limousine? What was his goal or motive
for such an action? I'm sure in that stupid website of yours you've
got some document you can refer to to explain what was REALLY going on
there in full view of the media and hundreds of witnesses. Please,
Tom here is your chance to shine. Do tell us all what was REALLY
happening.

"teacher" your ASS ! ! !

You're NOT educated enough to know that /Agent Clint Hill testified that he
saw a large piece of
JFK's skull with hair on it on the back seat.

You're NOT educated enough to ,know that the limo photos taken in the White
House garage on the
night of 11.22.63 show NO large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it.

You're NOT educated enough to know that Parkland employees were ordered to

get a bucket of water to wash out the Limo.

SEE>>> Volume XXII pages 217-226.
SEE Joe L. Richards
SEE testimony of Shirley Randall.
SEE Curry's book Page 36
See Manchester's book Page 180
See Bishop's book Page 352

You're as stupid under the name steve as you were under the name of toad
vaughan ! ! !

You aren't qualified as a "student" let alone as a "teacher" !

You're Another one who FEARS addressing evidence/testimony in my Live Audio
Chat /Room

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/invitation.htm

The value of you 10%'s is equal to the value of the 10% thrown away of a
Hebrew boy child.
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WCR SHILL wrote;

If you were more educated teach.... You'd know that there are many
photographs of the back seat of the Lincoln which were taken at the
White house Garage that night which show all the blood and gore on the
seats along with the flowers and what appears to be a small stuffed
animal....Any intelligent and astute person who sees those photos will
know that the back seat of the Lincoln was NOT washed out at Parkland
hospital. The photos of the Secret Service agent in the back seat of
the Lincoln is preparing to put the "bubble top" on the car.


I write;

You Lying piece of shit !

Show us the "large piece of JFK's skull Agent Hill saw when he climbed onto
the trunk?

Several reports od Parkland employees being told to get a bucket of water to
wash out the limo.

Start with Shirley Randall Volume XXI-page 217.

You're gonna have to urn your 30 pieces of Silver.

This will go on the website;
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ASSHOLE WROTE;

If you were more educated teach.... You'd know that there are many
photographs of the back seat of the Lincoln which were taken at the
White house Garage that night which show all the blood and gore on the
seats along with the flowers and what appears to be a small stuffed
animal....Any intelligent and astute person who sees those photos will
know that the back seat of the Lincoln was NOT washed out at Parkland
hospital. The photos of the Secret Service agent in the back seat of
the Lincoln is preparing to put the "bubble top" on the car.


I WRITE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm

ShutterBun

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> "drummist1965" <snl141...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

You really don't read what you are responding to, do you? She said
that yeah, maybe they were ordered/told to do it, but they didn't
actually carry it out.
You then procede to prove that yes, they were ordered to do it. So
fucking what? "Ordered to do" and "actually did it" are two
different things.

Not only that, your cite of Manchester has got to be the biggest
"shoot self in foot" I've seen in quite a while"

"An innacurate study reported that they washed out the back seat with
a bucket of water. Actually, this was contemplated. Nurse's aide
Shirley Randall was asked whether she would "come out and wash the
blood out of the car." Miss Randall agreed, but in the excitement,
she forgot."

P.S. Her statement in XXI pp221-226 corroborates this.

See Tom, we DO sometimes check your cites! But being so blatantly
inaccurate kinda hurts your credibility, wouldn't you say?

tomnln

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Miss America (HAHA) (wrote;

LOLOLOL!! Tom, I look NOTHING like that, anymore.


I write;

Are you telling us that you got "Bigger Breast Implants"????

Send photo PLEASE ! ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm

THAT is what you look like until you can produce a Prettier photo.

We sure can understand WHY you would claim you no longer look like THAT ! !
!

If you got "Prettier", will your Mug Shot go back on Ken Rahn's website?

How do you like what I did to you & your Sister Wally World before you
changed this thread from Washing out the Limo?

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm
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If I continue to BURY this Asshole, I'm gonna have to join the Mortician's
Union ! ! !

I don't BURY Wally every day.....Only when he Posts here !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm

tomnln

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shutterBun wrote;

You really don't read what you are responding to, do you? She said
that yeah, maybe they were ordered/told to do it, but they didn't
actually carry it out.
You then procede to prove that yes, they were ordered to do it. So
fucking what? "Ordered to do" and "actually did it" are two
different things.

Not only that, your cite of Manchester has got to be the biggest
"shoot self in foot" I've seen in quite a while"

"An innacurate study reported that they washed out the back seat with
a bucket of water. Actually, this was contemplated. Nurse's aide
Shirley Randall was asked whether she would "come out and wash the
blood out of the car." Miss Randall agreed, but in the excitement,
she forgot."

P.S. Her statement in XXI pp221-226 corroborates this.

See Tom, we DO sometimes check your cites! But being so blatantly
inaccurate kinda hurts your credibility, wouldn't you say?

I write;

How many photos of that bucket at the Limo do you want me to post?

SOMEBODY carried out those Orders ! ! !

There were Several Citations>>>


XXI-pages 221-226.
Joe L. Richards

Testimony of Shirley Randall

ShutterBun

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> "ShutterBun" <shutter...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Wow...and you STILL include Randall's "testimony" and Manchester's
book in your citations. Do you have some kind of aversion to the
learning process? I'm not saying you're proven 100% wrong here, but
at LEAST remove those blatantly false citations from your list, sheesh!

tomnln

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ShutterBun wrote;

Wow...and you STILL include Randall's "testimony" and Manchester's
book in your citations. Do you have some kind of aversion to the
learning process? I'm not saying you're proven 100% wrong here, but
at LEAST remove those blatantly false citations from your list, sheesh!

I write;

I gave you EIGHT (8) Citations;

You RAN from SIX (6) of them.

Are you DENYING that the other 2 Exist?

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Ran from six? How about I DESTROYED THREE! More accurate: you cling
to three proven BOGUS cites! Come on, man! If you're ever going to
be taken seriously, you've got to knock off the bogus cites,
particularly when they're presented to you in black and white, moments
after you advertise them. Shit!

Be a fucking man. Say: "OK, you got me there, those three cites were
inaccurate, I will take them off my list." But what do you do?
Accuse me of "running" just because I didn't take the time to run down
your other cites. Well, I just happened to have Manchester at arm's
reach, and Randall's FBI report was easy enough to retrieve. What, do
I have to go down to the local library and microfische the New York
Times before you'll admit defeat? And jeez, since when have newspaper
reports been accepted as "evidence" of anything (other than the fact
that the articles cited have, in fact, been printed)

Curry, page 36? What does Curry know about it? Is he suddenly an
authority on what happened at Parkland?

Joe L. Richards: asked to get a bucket of water; he complied. Big
whoop! Nobody is arguing there wasn't a bucket of water there!

Bishop? Well, you must have a different edition than me, because by
page 352 in my book (Harper Perenial, 1992) it's already 3:00 pm CST.
Can you provide the chapter, or at least surrounding paragraph?

Whate else ya got? Some periodicals? Pfffft.

Walt

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On Aug 24, 8:04 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> BOTTOM  POST;
>
> "Walt" <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote in message
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------------

> WCR SHILL wrote;
>
> If you were more educated teach.... You'd know that there are many
> photographs of the back seat of the Lincoln which were taken at the
> White house Garage that night which show all the blood and gore on the
> seats along with the flowers and what appears to be a small stuffed
> animal....Any intelligent and astute person who sees those photos will
> know that the back seat of the Lincoln was NOT washed out at Parkland
> hospital.   The photos of the Secret Service agent in the back seat of
> the Lincoln is preparing to put the "bubble top" on the car.
>
> I write;
>
> You Lying piece of shit !
>
> Show us the "large piece of JFK's skull Agent Hill saw when he climbed onto
> the trunk?

Huh??!!..... Your alzheimers is really got ya confused today..... I
didn't write anything about a piece of JFK's skull on the trunk of the
car. Go take yer medication.....


>
> Several reports od Parkland employees being told to get a bucket of water to
> wash out the limo.
>
> Start with Shirley Randall Volume XXI-page 217.
>
> You're gonna have to urn your 30 pieces of Silver.
>
> This will go on the website;

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------------ Hide quoted text -

Walt

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>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ISGkm.266067$E61....@newsfe09.iad...
>
>
>
>
>
> > BOTTOM POST;
>
> > "Walt" <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote in message
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----------------------------------------------------------

> > ASSHOLE WROTE;
>
> > If you were more educated teach.... You'd know that there are many
> > photographs of the back seat of the Lincoln which were taken at the
> > White house Garage that night which show all the blood and gore on the
> > seats along with the flowers and what appears to be a small stuffed
> > animal....Any intelligent and astute person who sees those photos will
> > know that the back seat of the Lincoln was NOT washed out at Parkland
> > hospital.   The photos of the Secret Service agent in the back seat of
> > the Lincoln is preparing to put the "bubble top" on the car.
>
> > I WRITE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm
>
> If I continue to BURY this Asshole, I'm gonna have to join the Mortician's
> Union ! ! !
>
> I don't BURY Wally every day.....Only when he Posts here !

What the hell are you babbling and drooling about???

>
> SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm- Hide quoted text -

Walt

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Nobody takes this idiot seriously....... Well, on the second thought
there are two residents at the Rubber Wall motel who often chime in
and kiss the old pervert's ass.... (He really enjoys that).


> particularly when they're presented to you in black and white, moments
> after you advertise them.  Shit!
>
> Be a fucking man.  Say:  "OK, you got me there, those three cites were
> inaccurate, I will take them off my list."  But what do you do?
> Accuse me of "running" just because I didn't take the time to run down
> your other cites.  Well, I just happened to have Manchester at arm's
> reach, and Randall's FBI report was easy enough to retrieve.  What, do
> I have to go down to the local library and microfische the New York
> Times before you'll admit defeat?  And jeez, since when have newspaper
> reports been accepted as "evidence" of anything (other than the fact
> that the articles cited have, in fact, been printed)
>
> Curry, page 36?  What does Curry know about it?  Is he suddenly an
> authority on what happened at Parkland?
>
> Joe L. Richards:  asked to get a bucket of water; he complied.  Big
> whoop!  Nobody is arguing there wasn't a bucket of water there!
>
> Bishop?  Well, you must have a different edition than me, because by
> page 352 in my book (Harper Perenial, 1992) it's already 3:00 pm CST.
> Can you provide the chapter, or at least surrounding paragraph?
>

> Whate else ya got?  Some periodicals?  Pfffft.- Hide quoted text -

drummist1965

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Robert

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On Aug 24, 12:50 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 24, 8:17 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> > > amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks.  Here
> > > is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> > > viewpoint.
>
> > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > eyewitnesses?  Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> > > gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> > > before the limousine could be photographed close up.  How do you group
> > > of nuts explain this event?
>
> > > I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> > > their moment in the spotlight.
>
> > Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
> > weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
> > shooting?
>
> > Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> > area he just 'FLED" from?
>
> > Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> > for the Mexican border?
>
> > Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> > on it?
>
> > There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> > Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> > questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?
>
> Hey Robert you big dumbass I've explained these things over and over
> and over.  

Hey SteveCon, you have NOT explained them, but you have lied about
them OVER AND OVER again!


> But talking to a conspiracy-believing dumbass like you is
> like talking to a photograph of a chicken.

IOW - I can't tell my lies to someone who knows the truth.


> Here for the 100th time is the explanation.  Please try to focus and
> follow my answers you big idiot.

Sure liar, let's see what he says, okay?


> 1.  The fibers found in the rifle establishes beyohnd ALL doubt that
> Oswald was in possession and USED the rifle that you nuts claim was
> planted by others and was never owned by Oswald.  The fibers prove
> that Oswald not only owned the murder weapon but that he had used it
> at some point in time.  Got it you big dummy?

LOL!!! How do fibers from a shirt he WAS NOT wearing at the time of
the shooting prove anything, let alone he owned the rifle and fired
it? LOL!! I bet the students in your class have fun at lunchtime
talking about what a dummy, know nothing their teacher is, huh?


> 2.  Because this bus would take him towards his boarding house.  And
> if he could get there fast enough he could possibly establish a phony
> alibi as to his whereabouts at the time of the assassination.

So he used public transportation that brought him BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
STARTING POINT? LOL!!

> Besides, you wrongly assume that Oswald's getaway was carefully
> planned and executed ingeniously.

I am NOT the one assuming anything -- YOU are! I am just going by
what your beloved WC gave us to work with.

> A LOT of guilty people make stupid
> mistakes in their attempted getaway.  The fact that he didn't calmly
> sit at the corner of Elm and Houston waiting for the bus  is evidence
> dripping with guilt that Oswald was fleeing the scene of his crime.

This is NOT proof of anything, besides this is NOT even been proven,
so you have NOTHING as usual but your own biased opinion.


> 3.  Who knows why he went to the movie theater instead of Mexico.

Well don't you think a "thorough" investigation should have found this
out?


> This is a stupid question and has NO answer.

Exactly, and that answers my question truthfully for once. Why do you
suppose this was NOT investigated by the DPD and FBI SteveCon? What
where they afraid to find?

> If he HAD gone to Mexico
> then you coinspiracy dumbasses would cry, "Why would Oswald try to
> flee across an international border which he would KNOW would be
> guarded after a presidential assassination.

Hardly since all the airports, bus stations and train stations WERE
NOT sealed off, I doubt the Mexican border would have been. Even
these days with heightened border patrol there are many areas one can
simply walk over.

YOU sound desperate SteveCon.

> You conspiracy morons
> love to butter your bread on both sides.  But this question is just
> plain stupid.

Sure it is, but YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT, how come?


> 4.  This is another stupid question.  The fact that the bullets and
> fragments wer traced to Oswald's rifle, and the fact that they were
> NOT found in the victims and the fact that they WERE found in front of
> the victims (except for CE 399) is anough for me to believe that
> Oswald fired them.  Of course NO amount of evidence is sufficient for
> the conspiracy idiots out there so this question doesn't trouble me in
> the least.

A court of law would disagree with you as ballistics with NO ties to
the victim(s) are useless since you can't prove they were the reason
for the harm in the first place.

The ONLY thing stupid is your lame answers.


> Believe me Roberto.  An idiot like you will NEVER pose a question that
> I will run from.

LOL!! Seems like you are ALREADY RUNNING SteveCon.


> Now, having answered these questions again, you will
> be making the claim in ten days that I ran from your dumbass
> observations.  Some things never change.

YOU have NOT answered anything -- you have simply given your very
biased opinion and it makes NO sense either.


> Now, why don't YOU explain your convoluted spin on the bucket outside
> the limousine.  I would LOVE to hear how your dumbass mind interprets
> this event.

As usual the LNer gets it backwards! I don't have to explain the
bucket, the FACT it was there near a "crime scene" is enough to raise
suspicion as to why it was there. Certainly LHO had NO control over
this.

YOU can't explain it so you lie and try to change the focus. Typical
LN troll stuff here.

Robert

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On Aug 24, 4:41 pm, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 12:11 pm, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 11:51 am, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Aug 24, 11:17 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > All right you group of nuts, as all of you know I get no end of
> > > > > amusement looking into the deranged minds of conspiracy kooks.  Here
> > > > > is another chance for you to explain something from your demented
> > > > > viewpoint.
>
> > > > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > > > eyewitnesses?  Personally, I see this an innocent act to remove the
> > > > > gore and mayhem caused by LHO's two bullets that struck the President
> > > > > before the limousine could be photographed close up.  How do you group
> > > > > of nuts explain this event?
>
> > > > > I have some follow-up comments after a few of the mental patients have
> > > > > their moment in the spotlight.
>
> > > > Did YOU explain why fibers from a shirt were on the alleged murder
> > > > weapon when LHO was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the
> > > > shooting?
>
> > > Dumbfuck, if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt at the time of the
> > > shooting, how do you explain that his former landlady saw him on the
> > > bus wearing that shirt just a few minutes after the shooting.
>
> > I don't put any stock in Mrs. Bledsoe's testimony as she could NOT
> > even say if he was wearing a t-shirt or not!  How can she remember a
> > shirt if she couldn't see a white t-shirt?  Furthermore, there is NO
> > evidence, and certainly NO proof LHO ever stayed at her house when the
> > WC claimed he did.  Thus, there is NO connection that has been proven
> > between Bledsoe and LHO.  Thus, she probably didn't know LHO from a
> > hole in a ground.
>
> What does what you put any stock in have to do with reality. Nobody
> care what a fucking moron like you thinks.

YOU obviously do, or you wouldn't have responded.

> If she hadn't been his
> landlady, how the fuck would she have recognized him?

Where is your proof she recognized him? All you have is her very shady
"claim" she did, but she described the man differently from other
passengers on the bus.

> How the fuck did
> she notice the hole in the elbow of the shirt or was it just a lucky
> guess that he would go home and put on a different shirt that had a
> hole in the same place where she described.

Again, you are dealing with a claim, NOT fact.


> How the fuck can you
> stupid asswipes keep reaching for these ridiculous excuses to deny
> what an entire body of evidence so clearly indicates. This body of
> evidence screams a very simple message. OSWALD DID IT, YOU STUPID
> FUCKING MORONS.

Lie, swear all you want, but that is NOT the same as strong evidence
and proof. YOU are out of luck BigCon.


> > > How do
> > > you explain how the bus transfer he obtained as he left the bus was in
> > > the pocket of that shirt.
>
> > I don't, I ask you folks instead why did he take a bus transfer that
> > had ALREADY EXPIRED (15 minute usuage window) with him?  This is a
> > pure indication that transfer was claimed to have been found to frame
> > him and give them an "escape" scenario.
>
> Right, dumbass, the cops just planted that bus transfer on him and
> just happened to know what bus he would get on so they could plant a
> transfer with the unique hole punch assigned to that driver.
>
> > > Do you think he changed shirts before he
> > > left the TSBD? Or maybe he changed shirts while walking to the spot
> > > where he boarded the bus.
>
> > He changed shirts when he stopped at the boarding house, thus the
> > fibers should and could NOT have been on the alleged murder weapon
> > even IF LHO was the shooter.
>
> Right, fuckhead. He just happened to change to a shirt that perfectly
> matched the fibers found on the butt plate of the rifle.

Thanks for admitting that, NOW explain how they got on the rifle when
he allegedly LEFT IT BACK AT THE TSBD WHEN HE WAS WEARING A DIFFERENT
SHIRT!

> > > > Did YOU explain why LHO would "flee" to a bus that CAME BACK to the
> > > > area he just 'FLED" from?
>

> > > It looks to me that Oswald didn't want to spend a whole lot of time at
> > > or near the scene of his crime.
>
> > Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?


>
> > > > Did YOU explain why LHO would go to a movie theater INSTEAD of heading
> > > > for the Mexican border?
>

> > > Maybe he was trying to get out of sight of all the police cars that
> > > were sailing up and down Jefferson St with the sirens blaring. Just a
> > > hunch.
>
> > Do you have anything beyond YOUR opinion?
>
> Do you have anything inside your skull other than a few pounds of
> shit.

I guess NOT.


> > > > Did YOU explain why no ballistic evidence has a trace of the victims
> > > > on it?
>

> > > Why do you assume there should be?
>
> > LOL!! This is the dumbest thing you have ever said!  LOL!!
>
> Which isn't nearly as dumb as the smartest thing you have ever said.

What a ignaramous! LOL!!!


> > > > There are others, but I remember asking you to explain these things
> > > > Steve-O and you ran!  Why should we constantly answer your silly
> > > > questions when YOU don't answer our more serious ones?
>

> > > Here's a question I ask in all seriousness. How can you be so fucking
> > > stupid?
>
> > LOL!! This moron thinks it is odd that tissue, blood and clothing
> > striations should be on the bullet and fragments that were supposedly
> > inside the victims, but I'm the stupid one!  
>
> No, you aren't the stupid ONE? You are a member of an army of
> thousands which constitutes what is the absolutely stupidest fucking
> collection of morons on the planet, people who have seen the evidence
> against Oswald and continue to deny his guilt.

So expecting the bullet and fragments that supposedly killed JFK and
wounded JBC to show traces of this is TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ACCORDING TO
BIGCON, huh?

LOL!!


> You will make up the
> most ridiculous rationalizations to avoid evidence that indicates
> clearly and unequivocally the Oswald was the killer.

So asking for the ballistic evidence to contain evidence of the
victims is asking too much, huh??? LOL!!! Why did they bother with
forensics in the first place then?

> It is amazing
> people who are as stupid as your are even able to survive on a day to
> day basis without assisted living. The only mystery to me is how
> people so stupid can even function in their daily lives.

YOU keep telling yourself that BigCon, and maybe, just maybe, it will
help you feel smarter than a 1st grader.


Robert

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Aug 25, 2009, 10:59:04 AM8/25/09
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On Aug 24, 8:02 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:

Perhaps the back seat was NOT touched, I don't know for sure, but the
bucket is there and they did wash some of the car and that alone is
TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE!

Notice how Wally LIMITS it to the back seat when there were other
areas of the car that contained evidence!

This is a slick troll here.

Walt

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> This is a slick troll here.-

Hey Rob...How would you like to drive a car that had blood on the
steering wheel and brain matter on the horn button??

It's possible that the drivers area of the car was cleaned up a little
so it could be driven to the airport. I see nothing sinister in this
action. Photos of the back seet that were taken at the White House
garage late that night show that the back seat was NOT cleaned up at
all at Parkland.

tomnln

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tomnln

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tomnln

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tomnln

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WCR SHILL wrote;

Hey Rob...How would you like to drive a car that had blood on the
steering wheel and brain matter on the horn button??

It's possible that the drivers area of the car was cleaned up a little
so it could be driven to the airport. I see nothing sinister in this
action. Photos of the back seet that were taken at the White House
garage late that night show that the back seat was NOT cleaned up at
all at Parkland.


I write;

When Agent Clint Hill jumped on the limo he said he saw a large piece of
JFK's skull with hair on it on the seat.
SEE>>> XVIII page 742.

When they photographed the limo in the White House garage that night, there
was NO Piece of skull with hair on it.

Walt's attempt to salvage the lies of the WCR Fail AGAIN ! ! !

tomnln

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ShutterBun wrote;

Ran from six? How about I DESTROYED THREE! More accurate: you cling
to three proven BOGUS cites! Come on, man! If you're ever going to
be taken seriously, you've got to knock off the bogus cites,
particularly when they're presented to you in black and white, moments
after you advertise them. Shit!

Be a fucking man. Say: "OK, you got me there, those three cites were
inaccurate, I will take them off my list." But what do you do?
Accuse me of "running" just because I didn't take the time to run down
your other cites. Well, I just happened to have Manchester at arm's
reach, and Randall's FBI report was easy enough to retrieve. What, do
I have to go down to the local library and microfische the New York
Times before you'll admit defeat? And jeez, since when have newspaper
reports been accepted as "evidence" of anything (other than the fact
that the articles cited have, in fact, been printed)

Curry, page 36? What does Curry know about it? Is he suddenly an
authority on what happened at Parkland?

Joe L. Richards: asked to get a bucket of water; he complied. Big
whoop! Nobody is arguing there wasn't a bucket of water there!

Bishop? Well, you must have a different edition than me, because by
page 352 in my book (Harper Perenial, 1992) it's already 3:00 pm CST.
Can you provide the chapter, or at least surrounding paragraph?

Whate else ya got? Some periodicals? Pfffft.

I write;

Glad to see you admit there was a bucket of water there.

Do you think it was to feed the Horsies?

Clint Hill said he saw a large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it on the
seat.
(Volume XVIII page 742)

When they photographed the limo that night there was NO piece of skull on
the seat !


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Robert

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Aug 25, 2009, 1:00:26 PM8/25/09
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Uh, Wally, that is why the limo SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVEN AS IT WAS
MATERIAL EVIDENCE AND AN OFFICIAL CRIME SCENE!


> It's possible that the drivers area of the car was cleaned up a little
> so it could be driven to the airport.   I see nothing sinister in this
> action.

NO WC troll ever does! Why was the limo needed in Washington so badly?
Was LBJ planning a motorcade the next day?


> Photos of the back seet that were taken at the White House
> garage late that night show that the back seat was NOT cleaned up at
> all at Parkland.

Doesn't matter, the areas you mentioned, and the ones you left out
like the trunk and back areas that showed a shot from the front, is
STILL TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE!

Lie all you want WC troll, it won't work. I think Wally has earned a
new name like the other LNers on here. I will use WallyCon or WaltCon
now for him.

Steve

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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Responding to a dumbass like Robert is a waste of time. He is totally
confused how finding fibers from Oswald's clothing in the butt plate
of the rifle establishes that oswald not only owned the rifle but was
in possession of it. If that single point is confusing to you then
there is no need discussing others with you. Having a dumbass like
you on a jury would be every educated person's worst nightmare. In
fact i DID serve on a jury with someone as stupid as you and the only
issue the jury could discuss was the stupidity of THAT juror. They
remind me of you 100%.

Speaking of my students, I will occasioinally read to them my answers
and your responses to my answers and they will comment on what a waste
of time it trying to talk logic or reason to dummies like you. Even
new students to the assassination can understand that fingerprints,
fibers, and palmprints establish ownership of a weapon. They cannot
believe that an adult like you can be so confused and so stupid. I
shrug my shoulders and tell them, "Welcome to the world of the
conspiracy kook."

Walt

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Aug 25, 2009, 4:56:20 PM8/25/09
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Actually Steve.....You and Rob are "two peas in a pod"... You both
dumber than the average fence post....

>
> Speaking of my students, I will occasioinally read to them my answers
> and your responses to my answers and they will comment on what a waste
> of time it trying to talk logic or reason to dummies like you.  Even
> new students to the assassination can understand that fingerprints,
> fibers, and palmprints establish ownership of a weapon.  They cannot
> believe that an adult like you can be so confused and so stupid.  I
> shrug my shoulders and tell them, "Welcome to the world of the

> conspiracy kook."- Hide quoted text -

ShutterBun

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Aug 25, 2009, 9:44:24 PM8/25/09
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On Aug 25, 9:44 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:

> Glad to see you admit there was a bucket of water there.
>
> Do you think it was to feed the Horsies?
>
> Clint Hill said he saw a large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it on the
> seat.
> (Volume XVIII page 742)
>
> When they photographed the limo that night there was NO piece of skull on
> the seat !

You just can't do it, can you? You can't say "Yep, dammit, you caught
me. I posted bogus citations, which did not support my contention. I
misrepresented them, in the hopes nobody would call me on it."
Instead, it's the usual "Hey! Look over there! Clint Hill says he
saw a piece of the skull on the seat!"

Not only that, but you add the word "large" to Hill's statement,
something he did not say.

If you believe Sam Kinney, apparently skull fragments were free
souvenirs for the agents on the plane trip to Bethesda.

But as usual, you post citations, get called on it, then change the
subject.

Walt

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Aug 25, 2009, 10:43:22 PM8/25/09
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Rob, don't be so damned dumb!....Technically you may be right.....but
in the chaos which developed immediately after the shots were fired
many procedurers and practices were ignored.

They just wanted to take JFK home and his car was an item that they
wanted to take along. I'm sure nobody thought that they were
"destroying evidence when they wiped the steering wheel and the dash
board ( IF IF in fact they did that,)


You simply try to make every move from a sneeze to nod of the head
into some sort of sinster action...... There's no doubt in my mind
that There was a conspiracy affot to murder JFK, and there's no doubt
in my mind that the conspirators ( Hoover, Johnson, and others )
framed Oswald.... But not every cop in Dallas was part of the plot.

> > It's possible that the drivers area of the car was cleaned up a little
> > so it could be driven to the airport.   I see nothing sinister in this
> > action.
>
> NO WC troll ever does!

Stupid Bastard......


Why was the limo needed in Washington so badly?
> Was LBJ planning a motorcade the next day?
>
> > Photos of the back seet that were taken at the White House
> > garage late that night show that the back seat was NOT cleaned up at
> > all at Parkland.
>
> Doesn't matter, the areas you mentioned, and the ones you left out
> like the trunk and back areas that showed a shot from the front, is
> STILL TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE!

Stupid Bastard!.....

>
> Lie all you want WC troll, it won't work.  I think Wally has earned a
> new name like the other LNers on here.  I will use WallyCon or WaltCon
> now for him.

Let's discuss it.... Call me at (213) EAT-SHIT

tomnln

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"ShutterBun" <shutt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agent Sam Kinney never even testified before the Warren Commission.

My Citation>> Clint Hill said he saw a large piece of JFK's skull with hair

on it on the seat.

(Volume XVIII page 742) Can be viewed HERE>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Robert

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Aug 27, 2009, 3:11:22 PM8/27/09
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Ahhh, isn't this funny??? Steve DEFENDS Walt as he answers questions I
pose to Wally but Wally is acting like he is "fueding" with Steve!
LOL!!


Wally and Bendsie are two WC shills in a BED! Wally would know about
"fence posts" too as he uses them for his gay sex stuff when Bendsie
is off with "Judo!"

> > Speaking of my students, I will occasioinally read to them my answers
> > and your responses to my answers and they will comment on what a waste
> > of time it trying to talk logic or reason to dummies like you.  Even
> > new students to the assassination can understand that fingerprints,
> > fibers, and palmprints establish ownership of a weapon.  They cannot
> > believe that an adult like you can be so confused and so stupid.  I
> > shrug my shoulders and tell them, "Welcome to the world of the
> > conspiracy kook."- Hide quoted text -
>

Robert

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Aug 27, 2009, 3:21:11 PM8/27/09
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LOL!! SO Wally is making EXCUSES for the feds NOW too! Pssst, the
FEDS did NOT have jurisdiction dummy!


Wally wouldn't know the truth if it was on the end of the "fence post"
he sits on!


> They just wanted to take JFK home and his car was an item that they
> wanted to take along.   I'm sure nobody thought that they were
> "destroying evidence when they wiped the steering wheel and the dash
> board ( IF IF in fact they did that,)

LOL!! MORE excuses from Wally! YOU are a bad liar, but then again ALL
WC TROLLS are! This was a crime and NO one in law enforcement
"forgets" how to process a crime Wally.

Do you have any more excuses for the authorities?


> You simply try to make every move from a sneeze to nod of the head
> into some sort of sinster action......  There's no doubt in my mind
> that There was a conspiracy affot to murder JFK, and there's no doubt
> in my mind that the conspirators ( Hoover, Johnson, and others )
> framed Oswald....   But not every cop in Dallas was part of the plot.

YOU are a rotten, stinking liar you WC shill! I have just told your
compatriot -- Steve -- I do NOT blame the police officers for the bag
miscue, and I have said this about many other things too.

YOU are the stinking WC shill who thinks nothing is "sinister" or
illegal about tampering and destroying evidence. How many excuses are
you going to make for them WC shill?

I am saving these comments for later too.

Where is Bendsie as he believes the limo was partially cleaned?


> > > It's possible that the drivers area of the car was cleaned up a little
> > > so it could be driven to the airport.   I see nothing sinister in this
> > > action.
>
> > NO WC troll ever does!
>
> Stupid Bastard......

Lying WC shill....


> Why was the limo needed in Washington so badly?
>
> > Was LBJ planning a motorcade the next day?
>
> > > Photos of the back seet that were taken at the White House
> > > garage late that night show that the back seat was NOT cleaned up at
> > > all at Parkland.
>
> > Doesn't matter, the areas you mentioned, and the ones you left out
> > like the trunk and back areas that showed a shot from the front, is
> > STILL TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE!
>
> Stupid Bastard!.....

LOL!! Mentioning they tampered with key evidence makes me stupid to
this WC shill!

Who are you really "Walt Cakebread"? I knew that was a made up name my
first day here.

> > Lie all you want WC troll, it won't work.  I think Wally has earned a
> > new name like the other LNers on here.  I will use WallyCon or WaltCon
> > now for him.
>
> Let's discuss it.... Call me at (213) EAT-SHIT

Go sit on your "fence post" and have some fun you stinking WC shill.

Walt

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My goodness, Rob, you seem to have blown a gasket,... or a Rossley

tomnln

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tomnln

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BOTTOM POST;

"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message news:...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agent Sam Kinney never even testified before the Warren Commission. My Citation>> Clint Hill said he saw a large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it on the seat. (Volume XVIII page 742) Can be viewed HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htmALSO SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/rob.htm--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Walt

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Rob wrote:.... Pssst, the FEDS did NOT have jurisdiction dummy!

Ya they did..... and the machine guns they carried enforced that
jurisdiction.... One of Hoover goons thought just as you do, and tried
to tell Johns body guards that they weren't in charge. At Parkland
hospital He barked at Roy Kellerman..."You're not in charge here"....
Whereupon Keller smashed him alongside the head with his machine gun
and demonstrated quite effectively that he was in fact in charge...
When the Hoover's thug regained consiousness he wimpered through his
broken jaw...'Mr Hoover will hear about this"

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Robert

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So we have ANOTHER lie by WaltCon as he claims the Feds had
jurisdiction. Cite the federal law that made killing the President
illegal in 1963 WC shill!

He won't of course because there was NO such law!

> One of Hoover goons thought just as you do, and tried
> to tell Johns body guards that they weren't in charge. At Parkland
> hospital He barked at Roy Kellerman..."You're not in charge here"....
> Whereupon Keller smashed him alongside the head with his machine gun
> and demonstrated quite effectively that he was in fact in charge...

This is NOT jurisdiction, it is called being a bully!

> When the Hoover's thug regained consiousness he wimpered through his
> broken jaw...'Mr Hoover will hear about this"

WaltCon is all about dumb stories INSTEAD of the truth.


Walt

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Aug 28, 2009, 11:08:30 AM8/28/09
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That IS the truth......as attested to by many witnesses who saw it
happen. One of the doctors that was on his way to the emergency room
thought Kellerman had killed the goon.

ShutterBun

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Aug 28, 2009, 7:54:45 PM8/28/09
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On Aug 28, 7:56 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:

> So we have ANOTHER lie by WaltCon as he claims the Feds had
> jurisdiction.  Cite the federal law that made killing the President
> illegal in 1963 WC shill!
>
> He won't of course because there was NO such law!

They were hoping to nail Oswald for violating JFK's civil rights.

Gil Jesus

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Aug 30, 2009, 8:13:38 AM8/30/09
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On Aug 24, 4:41�pm, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What does what you put any stock in have to do with reality. Nobody

> care what a fucking moron like you thinks. If she hadn't been his
> landlady, how thefuckwould she have recognized him? How the fuck did


> she notice the hole in the elbow of the shirt or was it just a lucky
> guess that he would go home and put on a different shirt that had a

> hole in the same place where she described. How the fuck can you


> stupid asswipes keep reaching for these ridiculous excuses to deny
> what an entire body of evidence so clearly indicates. This body of
> evidence screams a very simple message. OSWALD DID IT, YOU STUPID
> FUCKING MORONS.

Does Steve Barber disapprove of your language ?

Walt

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On Aug 30, 7:13 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 4:41 pm, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > What does what you put any stock in have to do with reality. Nobody
> > care what a fucking moron like you thinks. If she hadn't been his
> > landlady, how thefuckwould she have recognized him? How the fuck did
> > she notice the hole in the elbow of the shirt or was it just a lucky
> > guess that he would go home and put on a different shirt that had a
> > hole in the same place where she described.


Ahhh.. can I interupt your diatribe for just a minute........Did you
just ask...." was it just a lucky guess that he would go home and put


on a different shirt that had a

hole in the same place where she described.?"

The true and factual anser is:....The shirt that Oswald put on had NO
HOLE in the elbow..... Bill Winfrey and others took photos of Oswald
being pushed through the corridor at the DPD, and those photos show
that Oswald's arrest shirt had NO hole in the elbow.

You've acknowledged that Oswald went home and "put on a different
shirt", and you're right...So how could the FBI find fibers on the
butt of the rifle that mached the shirt that Oswald was wearing when
he was arrested? The WC wanted us to believe that the fibers on the
butt plate got there while Oswald had the rifle aginst his shoulder
while in the bact of murdering John Kennedy. Even a gullible fool
should be able to see that the Warren Commission was being
deceptive......because IF there were fibers found on that butt
plate.... and IF they came from one of Oswald's shirts, then they
should have matched the shirt he took off and left in his room, and
NOT the shirt he was wearing at the time of his arrest.

Gil Jesus

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On Aug 23, 11:49�pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and

> eyewitnesses? �


HEY PROFESSOR, YOUR SS AGENTS DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB CLEANING OUT THE
BACK OF THAT LIMO. HERE IT IS IN THE WH GARAGE ON THE NIGHT OF THE
22ND.

NOTICE ALSO THE BLOODIED WHITE "SOCK PUPPET" ON THE REAR SEAT THAT YOU
MORONS SAID DIDN'T EXIST.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE "FLOWERS", NOW, DOES IT ?

WHERE ARE THE STEMS ?

http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg

drummist1965

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Aug 30, 2009, 11:13:53 AM8/30/09
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Gil, you had, perhaps, better look a bit closer at the blow up of
the photo you posted the link to. That object you call a "sock puppet"
is what is left of the small bouquet of lavender colored flowers given
to Mrs. Kennedy. You can see petals on the seat that match the color
of the object that you just called "the sock puppet" that you & others
say that Mrs. Kennedy was given (when she wasn't, and film footage
proves that it was the lavender colored , small bouquet of flowers
that people mistake for a "puppet").

Walt

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Aug 30, 2009, 1:16:09 PM8/30/09
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http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg


Gil posted a link to a photo of the back seat of the Lincoln..... This
photo should convince any rational person that the back seat of the
car was NOT washed clean at Parkland Hospital. Captions on photos that
show a SS agent leaning into the car, and claim he is cleaning the car
are simply erroneous..... http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows
the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
died.

Here's a question...... WHAT is that copper colored cylinderical
object that is lying on the seat cushion, just to the viewer right of
the center seam. It appears to be about the right size and shape for
a FMJ bullet.... But larger than a 6.5mm MC bullet.

drummist1965

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Aug 30, 2009, 1:29:34 PM8/30/09
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On Aug 30, 1:16 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 9:11 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > eyewitnesses?
>
> > HEY PROFESSOR, YOUR SS AGENTS DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB CLEANING OUT THE
> > BACK OF THAT LIMO. HERE IT IS IN THE WH GARAGE ON THE NIGHT OF THE
> > 22ND.
>
> > NOTICE ALSO THE BLOODIED WHITE "SOCK PUPPET" ON THE REAR SEAT THAT YOU
> > MORONS SAID DIDN'T EXIST.
>
> > DOESN'T LOOK LIKE "FLOWERS", NOW, DOES IT ?
>
> > WHERE ARE THE STEMS ?
>
> >http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> Gil posted a link to a photo of the back seat of the Lincoln..... This
> photo should convince any rational person that the back seat of the
> car was NOT washed clean at Parkland Hospital. Captions on photos that
> show a SS agent leaning into the car, and claim he is cleaning the car
> are simply erroneous.....http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows

> the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
> died.
>
> Here's a question...... WHAT is that copper colored cylinderical
> object that is lying on the seat cushion, just to the viewer right of
> the center seam.  It appears to be about the right size and shape for
> a FMJ bullet.... But larger than a 6.5mm MC bullet.

IF you look at the blow up of this photograph, it clearly shows
that it is a large chunk of brain tissue, and matches the color of the
other chunks of brain on the seat. It is not copper colored, it is
bright pink.

Walt

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Aug 30, 2009, 9:55:42 PM8/30/09
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No I don't think it is a chunk of brain tissue..... If it was tissue
or blood it would have turned black after being exposed to air for 12
hours.

Robert

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Sep 1, 2009, 10:59:21 AM9/1/09
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On Aug 30, 1:16 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 9:11 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > eyewitnesses?
>
> > HEY PROFESSOR, YOUR SS AGENTS DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB CLEANING OUT THE
> > BACK OF THAT LIMO. HERE IT IS IN THE WH GARAGE ON THE NIGHT OF THE
> > 22ND.
>
> > NOTICE ALSO THE BLOODIED WHITE "SOCK PUPPET" ON THE REAR SEAT THAT YOU
> > MORONS SAID DIDN'T EXIST.
>
> > DOESN'T LOOK LIKE "FLOWERS", NOW, DOES IT ?
>
> > WHERE ARE THE STEMS ?
>
> >http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> Gil posted a link to a photo of the back seat of the Lincoln..... This
> photo should convince any rational person that the back seat of the
> car was NOT washed clean at Parkland Hospital.

Who said it was "washed out clean" WC shill? See the lie by this
troll? He makes it sound like folks on here are saying the car was
washed "completely" when NO one has said that. The TRUTH, something
this troll wouldn't know if it bit him, is ANY AMOUNT OF WASHING IS
TAMPERING WITH THE EVIDENCE!

That is what I have said a few others on here have said, NOT that the
SS agents in front of Parkland hospital began a "carwashing" service.
Maybe Wally will lie some more and claim we said the limo was vacuumed
too!

> Captions on photos that
> show a SS agent leaning into the car, and claim he is cleaning the car

> are simply erroneous.....http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows


> the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
> died.

Prove it! What could they be doing with a bucket and rag NEAR A CRIME
SCENE Wall?


> Here's a question...... WHAT is that copper colored cylinderical
> object that is lying on the seat cushion, just to the viewer right of
> the center seam.  It appears to be about the right size and shape for
> a FMJ bullet.... But larger than a 6.5mm MC bullet.

He lies and then wants to move on to distract. Typical troll behavior.

Walt

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Sep 3, 2009, 5:31:23 PM9/3/09
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On Sep 1, 9:59 am, Robert <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 1:16 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 30, 9:11 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 23, 11:49 pm, Steve <sahist...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Why was the secret service agent cleaning out the back of the
> > > > limousine at Parkland hospital in full view of camermen and
> > > > eyewitnesses?
>
> > > HEY PROFESSOR, YOUR SS AGENTS DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB CLEANING OUT THE
> > > BACK OF THAT LIMO. HERE IT IS IN THE WH GARAGE ON THE NIGHT OF THE
> > > 22ND.
>
> > > NOTICE ALSO THE BLOODIED WHITE "SOCK PUPPET" ON THE REAR SEAT THAT YOU
> > > MORONS SAID DIDN'T EXIST.
>
> > > DOESN'T LOOK LIKE "FLOWERS", NOW, DOES IT ?
>
> > > WHERE ARE THE STEMS ?
>
> > >http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> >http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg
>
> > Gil posted a link to a photo of the back seat of the Lincoln..... This
> > photo should convince any rational person that the back seat of the
> > car was NOT washed clean at Parkland Hospital.
>
> Who said it was "washed out clean" WC shill?  See the lie by this
> troll? He makes it sound like folks on here are saying the car was
> washed "completely" when NO one has said that.

Why would I think that anybody who was washing away the evidence would
leave big globs of blood and gore in the car? I guess you believe
that anybody washing away the evidence would only wash a little bit of
the car..... You stupid bastard!


 The TRUTH, something
> this troll wouldn't know if it bit him, is ANY AMOUNT OF WASHING IS
> TAMPERING WITH THE EVIDENCE!
>
> That is what I have said a few others on here have said, NOT that the
> SS agents in front of Parkland hospital began a "carwashing" service.
> Maybe Wally will lie some more and claim we said the limo was vacuumed
> too!

You had better lay off that weed...you're all confused.... I'm NOT the
one who is claiming the agents washed away evidence because they were
trying to destoy vital evidence....The last time I looked THAT was
your claim.

>
> > Captions on photos that
> > show a SS agent leaning into the car, and claim he is cleaning the car
> > are simply erroneous.....http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows
> > the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
> > died.
>
> Prove it!  What could they be doing with a bucket and rag NEAR A CRIME
> SCENE Wall?

well if you'd get your head out of your ass and LEARN the FACTS you'd
learn that one of the Secret service agents requested of a Parkland
nurse that she bring a bucket of water and some rags.
Which she obviously did..... But that act is entiely different that
washing the interior of the car. Simple because the bucket is there
doesn't mean it was actually used to wash anything.

It's a good thing the agent didn't have his gun in his hand....or
you'd be making the case that he was ordering the car washed up at the
point of a gun....


>
> > Here's a question...... WHAT is that copper colored cylinderical
> > object that is lying on the seat cushion, just to the viewer right of
> > the center seam.  It appears to be about the right size and shape for
> > a FMJ bullet.... But larger than a 6.5mm MC bullet.
>

> He lies and then wants to move on to distract.  Typical troll behavior.- Hide quoted text -

Robert

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Sep 4, 2009, 12:12:54 PM9/4/09
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YOU lying WC shill HOMO! ANY AMOUNT OF WASHING IS TAMPERING WITH THE
EVIDENCE! WHY lie about this point when we all know you are a liar?


>  The TRUTH, something
>
> > this troll wouldn't know if it bit him, is ANY AMOUNT OF WASHING IS
> > TAMPERING WITH THE EVIDENCE!

Dead silence....


> > That is what I have said a few others on here have said, NOT that the
> > SS agents in front of Parkland hospital began a "carwashing" service.
> > Maybe Wally will lie some more and claim we said the limo was vacuumed
> > too!
>
> You had better lay off that weed...you're all confused.... I'm NOT the
> one who is claiming the agents washed away evidence because they were
> trying to destoy vital evidence....The last time I looked THAT was
> your claim.

I have NEVER CLAIMED what their MOTIVES were you stinking lying WC
troll! I have merely said they were seen and photographed with a
bucket and a rag. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION THAT DOES NOT SHOW THEY
VIOLATED THE LAW AND TAMPERED WITH VITAL EVIDENCE!

YOU were the ONE that gave the excuse they "to wipe the steering
wheel" off so they could drive it, NOT me.

YOU are a horrible liar Wally, but then again ALL LNERS ARE!


> > > Captions on photos that
> > > show a SS agent leaning into the car, and claim he is cleaning the car
> > > are simply erroneous.....http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows
> > > the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
> > > died.
>
> > Prove it!  What could they be doing with a bucket and rag NEAR A CRIME
> > SCENE Wall?
>
> well if you'd get your head out of your ass and LEARN the FACTS you'd
> learn that one of the Secret service agents requested of a Parkland
> nurse that she bring a bucket of water and some rags.
> Which she obviously did.....  

What fore Wally? The limo was a CRIME SCENE!


> But that act is entiely different that
> washing the interior of the car.  Simple because the bucket is there
> doesn't mean it was actually used to wash anything.

YOU keep changing your story WaltCon! Why bother to ask the nurse for
a bucket and a rag IF you had NO intention of using it? Did they want
to POSE with it? Maybe they thought this would make them look "busy",
huh?


> It's a good thing the agent didn't have his gun in his hand....or
> you'd be making the case that he was ordering the car washed up at the
> point of a gun....

I am NOT claiming anything, YOU are the one lying to protect your
beloved WC and bedmate -- Ben!

There is NO non-conspriatorial explanation for the bucket and that is
the TRUTH!

Walt

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Sep 4, 2009, 4:36:42 PM9/4/09
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Utter nonsense you stupid bastard.....The Secret service agent may
have had INTENTIONS of cleaning up the blood and gore at the time that
he asked the nurse to bring a bucket of water and some rags. Nobody
but that agent knows what his motive was.... I chose to believe he was
merely trying to do some little thing to help..... I doubt that he was
an evil boogie man who wanted to destroy evidence. The point is:...we
don't know what his motive was, nor do we know that ANY of blood was
wiped off the car.

Simply because the bucket is there near the car, does NOT indicate a
conspiracy in any way....Ya stupid bastard. I have no doubt that it
was brought there for the purpose of cleaning the car, but I doubt
that it was ever used.

tomnln

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Sep 4, 2009, 8:11:53 PM9/4/09
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BOTTOM POST;

"Robert" <robc...@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Dead silence....

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

REMEMBER ! ! !

It was ME who FIRST pointed out that Wally World was a WCR SHILL ! ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm

I used his own words to do it with ! ! !
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Walt

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Sep 4, 2009, 8:38:05 PM9/4/09
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On Sep 4, 7:11 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> BOTTOM POST;
>
> "Robert" <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote in message

The Stupid Bastard wrote:..." I have NEVER CLAIMED what their MOTIVES


were you stinking lying WC troll! I have merely said they were seen
and photographed with a
bucket and a rag. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION THAT DOES NOT SHOW THEY
VIOLATED THE LAW AND TAMPERED WITH VITAL EVIDENCE!"


Walt wrote:..."Captions on photos that show a SS agent leaning into


the car, and claim he is cleaning the car are simply
erroneous.....http://i27.tinypic.com/2n8xwg5.jpg...Shows
the sickening mess of blood and gore on that back seat where JFK
died.

The Stupid Bastard wrote:..." Prove it! What could they be doing with


a bucket and rag NEAR A CRIME SCENE Wall?"

Any sane reasoning person can deduce that you believe that the Secret
Service agent at Parkland was part of a conspiracy to murder JFK and
he was trying to destroy evidence.

Are you so damned STUPID that you think you can take both pro and con
stances on this issue and not appear to be a complete loon?

>
> > well if you'd get your head out of your ass and LEARN the FACTS you'd
> > learn that one of the Secret service agents requested of a Parkland
> > nurse that she bring a bucket of water and some rags.
> > Which she obviously did.....
>
> What fore Wally?  The limo was a CRIME SCENE!
>
> > But that act is entiely different that
> > washing the interior of the car. Simple because the bucket is there
> > doesn't mean it was actually used to wash anything.
>
> YOU keep changing your story WaltCon!  Why bother to ask the nurse for
> a bucket and a rag IF you had NO intention of using it?  Did they want
> to POSE with it?  Maybe they thought this would make them look "busy",
> huh?
>
> > It's a good thing the agent didn't have his gun in his hand....or
> > you'd be making the case that he was ordering the car washed up at the
> > point of a gun....
>
> I am NOT claiming anything, YOU are the one lying to protect your
> beloved WC and bedmate -- Ben!
>
> There is NO non-conspriatorial explanation for the bucket and that is
> the TRUTH!

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------------------------------


>
> REMEMBER ! ! !
>
> It was ME who FIRST pointed out that Wally World was a WCR SHILL ! ! !
>
> SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm
>
> I used his own words to do it with ! ! !

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -

Walt

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Sep 4, 2009, 8:41:53 PM9/4/09
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On Sep 4, 7:11 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> BOTTOM POST;
>
> "Robert" <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote in message
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------------------------------

>
> REMEMBER ! ! !
>
> It was ME who FIRST pointed out that Wally World was a WCR SHILL ! ! !


No one wants to deprive you of the "honor" of demonstrating that
you're a senile old fruit cake whose old shriveled brain doesn't
function very well.

>
> SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm
>
> I used his own words to do it with ! ! !

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -

tomnln

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Sep 4, 2009, 9:06:44 PM9/4/09
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"Walt" <papakoc...@evertek.net> wrote in message
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EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm

tomnln

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:01:46 PM9/4/09
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The testimonny Clearly states that the bucket of water was to "Wash out the
blood".

SEE XXI page 217 HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wash_out_the_limo.htm


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tomnln

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:03:30 PM9/4/09
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It worked GREAT for the 10 years that you Kissed my Ass to provide you with
evidence/testimony.


SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/wally_world.htm

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