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tom...@cox.net

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May 18, 2013, 5:21:56 PM5/18/13
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john;
are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
"forgive my grief? ? ?


John McAdams <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> On 17 May 2013 14:08:03 -0400, richard...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/jfk-witness-deaths-calcul
> >ating-the-probabilities/
> >
> >We must distinguish between unnatural and natural deaths. The failed to
> >do so. In its attempt to dismiss the London Sunday Times actuary�s 100,
> >000 TRILLION to 1 odds of 18 witness deaths in three years after the
> >assassination, the HSCA made the following fundamental errors:
> >
>
> Are you even aware that the SUNDAY TIMES *admitted* that the analysis
> was nonsense?
>
> >1) considered just 21 of 46 suspicious deaths from Nov 1963-Feb 1967,
> >avoiding Oswald, Ruby, Ferrie, etc.
> >
> >2) did not specify that the deaths were UNNATURAL
> >
>
> About half were perfectly natural.
>
> >3) did not consider witness CONNECTIONS to the case and MOTIVATION for
> >their elimination
> >
>
> The connection was absurdly tenuous in virtually every case.
>
> >4) ignored the need to utilize UNNATURAL MORTALITY RATES
> >
> >5) falsely stated that the UNIVERSE of witnesses was UNKNOWABLE
> >
>
> Huh?
>
> Kindly specify what the universe of witnesses was?
>
> Give us a number!
>
> >6) ignored the KNOWN UNIVERSE of 552 Warren Commission witnesses:14
> >unnatural, 10 suspicious deaths
> >
> >7) ignored the SUSPICIOUS deaths in 1977 of 7 top FBI officials called
> >to testify at HSCA
> >
>
> Nonsense. There were no "7 top FBI officials" called.
>
> If you think so, name them.
>
> >8) did not question why no one at the London Times knew the actuary's
> >name
> >
>
> They probably did, but wanted to spare him embarrassment.
>
> >9) failed to show the actuary's ASSUMPTIONS and calculation METHOD
> >
>
> How could they, when the SUNDAY TIMES failed to publish them?
>
> >10) did not consider using the POISSON distribution function to
> >calculate probabilities
> >
>
> They could not calculate probabilities without knowing the universe of
> "connected" people.
>
> >The HSCA succeeded in misinforming the public by inferring that the
> >actuary�s odds were not proof of a conspiracy.
> >
>
> But the actuary's "odds" were not proof of anything. They told him to
> calculate the probability of 17 named people dying.
>
> They did *not* tell him to calculate the probability of 17 out of a
> thousand (ot ten thousand) people dying.
>
> >The key to calculating the probability of a given number (n) of
> >unnatural deaths occurring in a given group (N) in a given time period
> >(T) is to recognize that it is based on the difference between
> ><em>expected and actual unnatural deaths</em>. The larger the
> >discrepancy between the actual observed and expected number of deaths,
> >the lower the probability.
> >
> >These are the relevant probability input parameters:
> >N= total number of witnesses
> >n= number of observed unnatural deaths
> >T= time period in years
> >R= unnatural mortality rate
> >
> >The tables in the JFK Witness Spreadsheet Database display unnatural
> >death probabilities for 552 Warren Commission and 1400 material
> >witnesses based on unnatural, weighted and homicide mortality rates over
> >3, 7 and 14 year time intervals.
> >
> >In 1963, the annual national homicide rate was 6 per 100,000 (0.00006).
> >At least 4 of the 552 Warren Commission witnesses were murdered in the
> >first 3 years after the assassination. The equivalent Warren Commission
> >rate was 0.0024 = 4/(552*3) or 240 per 100,000 (40 times the national
> >rate).
> >
>
> But most of the people on the list were *not* Warren Commission
> witnesses. Was the Mayor of New Orleans a WC witness? He's on the
> silly list.
>
> >If the 5 accidental deaths and 1 suicide in the three year period were
> >actually homicides, then the equivalent Warren Commission rate was
> >0.006038 == 10/(552*3) or 603 per 100,000 (100 times the national
> >average).
> >
> >The Poisson Distribution calculates the probabilities of rare events
> >over time.
> >
> >We must first calculate E, the expected number of unnatural deaths: E=
> >N*R*T
> >
> >The probability of EXACTLY n unnatural deaths is: P = POISSON (n, E,
> >false).
> >
> >The probability of AT LEAST n deaths is P = 1- POISSON (n-1, E, true)
> >
> >EXAMPLE:
> >The probability of AT LEAST 14 Warren Commission witness homicides in
> >the 14 years from 1964-77:
> >E = 0.479 = N*T*R = 552*14*0.000062
> >P = 1 - Poisson (13, 0.479, true)
> >P = 4.44E-16 = 1 in 2,251,799,813,685,248
> >P = 1 in 2251 trillion</strong>
> >
> >View the witness database and the probability sensitivity tables...
> >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdDFSU3NVd29xWWN
> >yekd2X1ZJYllKTnc#gid=1
>
> You don't seem to understand that there must be 10,000 people
> "connected" with the assassination, given the absurd critera buffs
> use.
>
> Indeed, most of the people on the list were not "connected" at all!
>
> Was the Chief steward on JFK's Air Force One connected?
>
> If he was a conspirator, why not have him poison JFK's food?
>
> .John
> --------------
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John McAdams

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May 18, 2013, 9:41:32 PM5/18/13
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Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.

What's the matter? Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
more than you?

.John
.John
--------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

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May 18, 2013, 11:23:24 PM5/18/13
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On 5/18/2013 9:41 PM, John McAdams wrote:
> Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> What's the matter? Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> more than you?
>

Maybe the moderators won't allow him to post it here?

> .John
>
> On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> john;
>> are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
>> "forgive my grief? ? ?
>>
>>
>> John McAdams <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote:
>>> On 17 May 2013 14:08:03 -0400, richard...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/jfk-witness-deaths-calcul
>>>> ating-the-probabilities/
>>>>
>>>> We must distinguish between unnatural and natural deaths. The failed to
>>>> do so. In its attempt to dismiss the London Sunday Times actuary?s 100,
>>>> actuary?s odds were not proof of a conspiracy.

curtjester1

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May 19, 2013, 2:48:00 PM5/19/13
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On May 18, 9:41 pm, John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> What's the matter?  Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> more than you?
>
> .John
>
> On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >john;
> >are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
> >"forgive my grief? ? ?
>
> >John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
Why didn't you post Tom's original statement? It's in ACJ if one's
want to know.

CJ

curtjester1

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May 19, 2013, 2:49:33 PM5/19/13
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On May 18, 11:23 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/18/2013 9:41 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>
> > Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> > What's the matter?  Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> > more than you?
>
> Maybe the moderators won't allow him to post it here?
>
>
>
> > .John
>
> > On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>
> >> john;
> >> are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
> >> "forgive my grief? ? ?
>
> >> John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
Maybe it's more sinister than that, Usually one can get an answer
when they stop in at ACJ. I'd hate to come down with the Frick n'
Frack bug.

http://www.whokilledjfk.net/frick%20n%20frack.htm

CJ




Robert Harris

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May 19, 2013, 5:51:28 PM5/19/13
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John McAdams wrote:
> Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> What's the matter? Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> more than you?

Hmm...

After giving the matter some thought, I have to believe it is not nearly
as shameful to dodge a more knowledgeable adversary as it is to run from
evidence which proves one is wrong.

What do you think about that John:-)


Robert Harris








timstter

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May 19, 2013, 5:55:34 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 1:23 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/18/2013 9:41 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>
> > Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> > What's the matter?  Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> > more than you?
>
> Maybe the moderators won't allow him to post it here?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > .John
>
> > On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>
> >> john;
> >> are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
> >> "forgive my grief? ? ?
>
> >> John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
Probably wise on the grounds of good taste?

Helpful Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!

Ben Holmes

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May 19, 2013, 9:18:08 PM5/19/13
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In article <fcbgp8lu8d5cfoqqc...@4ax.com>, John McAdams says...
>
>Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
>What's the matter? Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
>more than you?
>
>.John

Johnny, of course, stays in a forum where he can censor anyone who embarrasses
him
by pointing out his lies and deceptions...

Johnny *IS* afraid of a wide open forum...


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Ben Holmes

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May 19, 2013, 9:22:37 PM5/19/13
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In article <J9GdnemW6LIMtQTM...@earthlink.com>, Robert Harris
says...
This, of course, is PRECISELY what Robert does... Robert refuses to post in this
forum any more as well...

Probably due to the times he's been caught telling fibs about the evidence.

Anthony Marsh

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May 20, 2013, 5:34:58 PM5/20/13
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On 5/19/2013 2:48 PM, curtjester1 wrote:
> On May 18, 9:41 pm, John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
>> Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>>
>> What's the matter? Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
>> more than you?
>>
>> .John
>>
>> On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> john;
>>> are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
>>> "forgive my grief? ? ?
>>
>>> John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
>>>> On 17 May 2013 14:08:03 -0400, richardchar...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>>> http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/jfk-witness-deaths-calcul
>>>>> ating-the-probabilities/
>>
>>>>> We must distinguish between unnatural and natural deaths. The failed to
>>>>> do so. In its attempt to dismiss the London Sunday Times actuary�s 100,
>>>>> actuary�s odds were not proof of a conspiracy.
It is against the rules of this newsgroup to post messages from another
newsgroup. Why don't you LINK to it?

> CJ
>


curtjester1

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May 21, 2013, 1:22:23 AM5/21/13
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On May 20, 5:34 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/19/2013 2:48 PM, curtjester1 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 18, 9:41 pm, John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> >> Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
>
> >> What's the matter?  Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> >> more than you?
>
> >> .John
>
> >> On 18 May 2013 21:21:56 GMT, tom...@cox.net wrote:
>
> >>> john;
> >>> are you telling us that you have read all 4 of penn jones' editions of
> >>> "forgive my grief? ? ?
>
> >>> John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> >>>> On 17 May 2013 14:08:03 -0400, richardchar...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >>>>>http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/jfk-witness-deaths-calcul
> >>>>> ating-the-probabilities/
>
> >>>>> We must distinguish between unnatural and natural deaths. The failed to
> >>>>> do so. In its attempt to dismiss the London Sunday Times actuary s 100,
> >>>>> actuary s odds were not proof of a conspiracy.
Everyone knows that it's from ACJ, so they can go there if there's
interest. It's not nice to accuse people of not coming over here when
there is a reason for it, and there is specific reference posts to
it.

CJ

timstter

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May 21, 2013, 4:04:05 PM5/21/13
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On May 20, 11:22 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <J9GdnemW6LIMtQTMnZ2dnUVZ_qWdn...@earthlink.com>, Robert Harris
The time you ran for the killfilter over *The Lady In Yellow Pants*
matter comes to mind, Holmes.

You are simply the LAST person who should be disparaging others around
here.

Corrective Regards,

Anthony Marsh

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May 21, 2013, 6:54:27 PM5/21/13
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Not true. I can't go to the Nuthouse because Comcast and all the other
major InterNet providers dropped all newsgroups a couple of years ago
and Comcast has a monopoly.



Ben Holmes

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May 22, 2013, 3:30:21 PM5/22/13
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In article <519bc409$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
Tony has illustrated his ignorance of the Internet before - but rarely has it
been so obvious.

Tony's a coward...

timstter

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May 23, 2013, 6:34:52 AM5/23/13
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On May 20, 11:18 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <fcbgp8lu8d5cfoqqcjbvapa2et223la...@4ax.com>, John McAdams says...
Said Benny self-importantly, all the while skulking PATHETICALLY
behind his killfilter.

KUTGW, Yellow Pants!

LMFAO@U Regards,

tom...@cox.net

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May 24, 2013, 6:19:54 PM5/24/13
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HEY TIMMY;

TELL US IF YOU HAVE READ THE EVIDENCE/TESTIMONY IN THE 26 VOLUMES OR,
"NOT"? ? ? ?



timstter <tims...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 11:18=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> > In article <fcbgp8lu8d5cfoqqcjbvapa2et223la...@4ax.com>, John McAdams
> > say=
> s...
> >
> >
> >
> > >Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
> >
> > >What's the matter? =A0Afraid to try to mix it up with people who know
> > >more than you?
> >
> > >.John
> >
> > Johnny, of course, stays in a forum where he can censor anyone who
> > embarr=
> asses
> > him
> > by pointing out his lies and deceptions...
> >
> > Johnny *IS* afraid of a wide open forum...
> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > - Ben Holmes
> > Learn to Make Money with a Website -http://www.burningknife.com
>
> Said Benny self-importantly, all the while skulking PATHETICALLY
> behind his killfilter.
>
> KUTGW, Yellow Pants!
>
> LMFAO@U Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
>
> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0
> 14= 4a.htm
>
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!

timstter

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> >http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...
> > 14= 4a.htm
>
> > X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
>
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I certainly read CE2121, tomnln.

It seems to contradict what you have on your website re Mrs Duran,
tomnln.

Now why is THAT, tomnln?

Don't you BELIEVE the evidence/testimony in the 26 volumes?

Concerned Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

timstter

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> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...
>
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!

BUMP! YOO HOO! HOLMES!

TB

tom...@cox.net

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timstter <tims...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 25, 8:19=A0am, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> > HEY TIMMY;
> >
> > TELL US IF YOU HAVE READ THE EVIDENCE/TESTIMONY IN THE 26 VOLUMES OR,
> > "NOT"? ? ? ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 20, 11:18=3DA0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <fcbgp8lu8d5cfoqqcjbvapa2et223la...@4ax.com>, John
> > > > McAdams say=3D
> > > s...
> >
> > > > >Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
> >
> > > > >What's the matter? =3DA0Afraid to try to mix it up with people who
> > > > >k=
> now
> > > > >more than you?
> >
> > > > >.John
> >
> > > > Johnny, of course, stays in a forum where he can censor anyone who
> > > > embarr=3D
> > > asses
> > > > him
> > > > by pointing out his lies and deceptions...
> >
> > > > Johnny *IS* afraid of a wide open forum...
> >
> > > > --
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > --=
> --
> > > > - Ben Holmes
> > > > Learn to Make Money with a Website -http://www.burningknife.com
> >
> > > Said Benny self-importantly, all the while skulking PATHETICALLY
> > > behind his killfilter.
> >
> > > KUTGW, Yellow Pants!
> >
> > > LMFAO@U Regards,
> >
> > > Tim Brennan
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >
> > > *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> > > neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> > > Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
> >
> > > And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> > >http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol.
> > >..
> > > 14=3D 4a.htm
> >
> > > X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >
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> I certainly read CE2121, tomnln.
>
> It seems to contradict what you have on your website re Mrs Duran,
> tomnln.
>
> Now why is THAT, tomnln?
>
> Don't you BELIEVE the evidence/testimony in the 26 volumes?
>
> Concerned Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
>
> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0
> 14= 4a.htm
>
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!

LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE ASSHOLES WHO WOULD THREATEN
A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.

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> >http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...
> > 14= 4a.htm
>
> > X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
>
> LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE ASSHOLES WHO WOULD THREATEN
> A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
>
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Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband, tomnln.

You simply don't know what you're talking about and you can't spell or
puntuate either, you pathetic old fool.

Corrective Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

tom...@cox.net

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timstter <tims...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 11:27=A0am, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> > timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 25, 8:19=3DA0am, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> > > > HEY TIMMY;
> >
> > > > TELL US IF YOU HAVE READ THE EVIDENCE/TESTIMONY IN THE 26 VOLUMES
> > > > OR, "NOT"? ? ? ?
> >
> > > > timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 20, 11:18=3D3DA0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com>
> > > > > wrot=
> e:
> > > > > > In article <fcbgp8lu8d5cfoqqcjbvapa2et223la...@4ax.com>, John
> > > > > > McAdams say=3D3D
> > > > > s...
> >
> > > > > > >Tom, you didn't post this on the moderated group.
> >
> > > > > > >What's the matter? =3D3DA0Afraid to try to mix it up with
> > > > > > >people=
> who
> > > > > > >k=3D
> > > now
> > > > > > >more than you?
> >
> > > > > > >.John
> >
> > > > > > Johnny, of course, stays in a forum where he can censor anyone
> > > > > > wh=
> o
> > > > > > embarr=3D3D
> > > > > asses
> > > > > > him
> > > > > > by pointing out his lies and deceptions...
> >
> > > > > > Johnny *IS* afraid of a wide open forum...
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > --=
> --
> > > > > > --=3D
> > > --
> > > > > > - Ben Holmes
> > > > > > Learn to Make Money with a Website -http://www.burningknife.com
> >
> > > > > Said Benny self-importantly, all the while skulking PATHETICALLY
> > > > > behind his killfilter.
> >
> > > > > KUTGW, Yellow Pants!
> >
> > > > > LMFAO@U Regards,
> >
> > > > > Tim Brennan
> > > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >
> > > > > *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or
> > > > > the neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> > > > > Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII
> > > > > 261-262.
> >
> > > > > And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> > > > >http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_
> > > > >Vo=
> l.
> > > > >..
> > > > > 14=3D3D 4a.htm
> >
> > > > > X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >
> > > > --
> > > > --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/--------------------
> > > > Usenet Newsgroup Service =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
> > > > =
> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
> > > > =3DA0$=3D
> > > 9.95/Month 30GB
> >
> > > I certainly read CE2121, tomnln.
> >
> > > It seems to contradict what you have on your website re Mrs Duran,
> > > tomnln.
> >
> > > Now why is THAT, tomnln?
> >
> > > Don't you BELIEVE the evidence/testimony in the 26 volumes?
> >
> > > Concerned Regards,
> >
> > > Tim Brennan
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >
> > > *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> > > neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> > > Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
> >
> > > And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> > >http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol.
> > >..
> > > 14=3D 4a.htm
> >
> > > X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >
> > LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE ASSHOLES WHO WOULD
> > THREAT=
> EN
> > A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
> >
> > --
> > --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/--------------------
> > Usenet Newsgroup Service =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> > =A0$=
> 9.95/Month 30GB
>
> Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband, tomnln.
>
> You simply don't know what you're talking about and you can't spell or
> puntuate either, you pathetic old fool.
>
> Corrective Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
>
> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0
> 14= 4a.htm
>
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
my exprttise is in burying you illeterate assholes with your own official
evidence/testimony from the 26 volumes you never had read to you...

--
-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ --------------------

Jason Burke

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Rossturd calling ANYONE illeterate (sic) is probably the funniest thing
I've seen in weeks!


tom...@cox.net

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May 28, 2013, 8:13:45 PM5/28/13
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the funniest thing in years is an asshole who has nerer read the
evidence/testimony in the 26 volumes addrtessing any part of this subject.
(like you and mCadams)..

Jason Burke

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May 28, 2013, 8:46:08 PM5/28/13
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Better get nurse mommy back on board. You're blithering again, Rossturd.

tom...@cox.net

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May 29, 2013, 5:42:04 PM5/29/13
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FROM AN ASSHOLE WHO IS SCARED TO DEATH OF DEBATING ME ON THE RADIO OR, EVEN
TOE TO TOE ! ! !

tom...@cox.net

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===========================================================================
= SO, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THE TESTIMONY OF MANY PROVES THAT PHONY
GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT IS FULL OF SHIT ! ! !
===========================================================================
==

Jason Burke

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May 29, 2013, 5:51:48 PM5/29/13
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The only debate you're good at, Rossturd, is a mass debate.

Though you probably can't even do that anymore. Get nurse/mommy to help you!

Jason Burke

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May 29, 2013, 5:57:21 PM5/29/13
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You're repeating yourself, Shitturd.

Threaten anyone with bodily harm yet today, Tommie?

tom...@cox.net

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May 30, 2013, 6:58:15 PM5/30/13
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I'M REALLY GONNA ENJOY RUNNING YOU THROUGH AWOOD-CHIPPER...

tom...@cox.net

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May 30, 2013, 6:59:34 PM5/30/13
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YOU'RE NUMBER 1 PUSSAY ! ! !

Jason Burke

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May 30, 2013, 10:11:50 PM5/30/13
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Ohh, shithead. A threat! I'm REALLY scared now!

Jason Burke

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May 30, 2013, 10:14:16 PM5/30/13
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Oooh, I'm'a really scareded now, Rossshit.

And by the way, Rossfuck, what is a PUSSAY?

(Better have nruse-mommy type for you. You're having trouble again with
capitalization, spelling, punctuation, and just making coherent
sentences in general.)

tom...@cox.net

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May 31, 2013, 6:22:56 PM5/31/13
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WHY DON'T YOU ASK SOMEONE TO READ THE EVIDENCE/TESTIMONY TO YOU FROM THE 26
VOLUMES YOU FUCKING KNOW-NOTHING ! ! !

tom...@cox.net

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May 31, 2013, 6:24:34 PM5/31/13
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THAT WOULD BE PUTTING YOUR FAMILY OUTTA WORK AND, BACK ON QELFARE ! ! !

Jason Burke

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May 31, 2013, 7:08:29 PM5/31/13
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Yawn.

I see you STILL admit that you have nothing - nothing at all - that
points at anyone else being involved.

Good boy, Rossturd!

Jason Burke

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May 31, 2013, 7:17:55 PM5/31/13
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QELFARE, Rossshit?

Yup, you really need nurse/mommy to come help.


tom...@cox.net

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May 31, 2013, 7:32:11 PM5/31/13
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had someone read the 26 volumes of evidence/testimony to you, you would
know that the evidence/testimony proved a government report as erronerous !
! ! !

just another lie by the felons you support.

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Jason Burke

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May 31, 2013, 8:56:01 PM5/31/13
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I see ya still have nothing resembling evidence, eh, Rosshit.

tom...@cox.net

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ht ml /W H_ Vo l. ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14=3D 4a.htm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE ASSHOLES
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WHO WOULD THREAT=
> >>>>>>>>>>>> EN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/-----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- - Usenet Newsgroup Service =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$=
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9.95/Month 30GB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband, tomnln.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You simply don't know what you're talking about and you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can't spell or puntuate either, you pathetic old fool.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Corrective Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Brennan
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney, Australia
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or the neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 261-262.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/ht
===========================================================================
==== I told you;

bernard barker was found tears latr to have been the phony secret service
agent behind the fence within seconds of the shooting...
===========================================================================
===

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Jason Burke

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Jun 2, 2013, 12:51:51 AM6/2/13
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(Not to mention that 'tears latr' comment...)

Hey, Fucktard. You're on record that you use nothing that's not in
official documents. Now you're pulling nonsense out of your ass from
years later??? Try to keep your fantasy straight.

And, keep in mind that you've already admitted that you have absolutely
no evidence that anyone other than Oswald was involved.



tom...@cox.net

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7/ ht ml /W H_ Vo l. ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14=3D 4a.htm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE ASSHOLES
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHO WOULD THREAT=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/---------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- -- - Usenet Newsgroup Service =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.95/Month 30GB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband, tomnln.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You simply don't know what you're talking about and you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't spell or puntuate either, you pathetic old fool.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corrective Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Brennan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney, Australia
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> head or the neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> added). Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as: XVII 261-262.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> head...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/
==========================================================================
SO, YOU NO LONGER BELIEVE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT! ! !
===========================================================================
===
> And, keep in mind that you've already admitted that you have absolutely
> no evidence that anyone other than Oswald was involved.

===========================================================================
== I ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT YOUR DADDY BERNARD BARKER BEIG IDENTIFIED AS
THE GUY IMPERSONATING A SECRET SERVICE AGENT BEHIND THE FENCE WITIN SECONDS
OF THED SHOOTING...
===========================================================================

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Jason Burke

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Jun 2, 2013, 8:30:42 PM6/2/13
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Make up your mind, shithead. Oh, there's nothing left to make up.

ut of your ass from
>> years later??? Try to keep your fantasy straight.
> ==========================================================================
> SO, YOU NO LONGER BELIEVE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT! ! !
> ===========================================================================
> ===
>> And, keep in mind that you've already admitted that you have absolutely
>> no evidence that anyone other than Oswald was involved.
>
> ===========================================================================
> == I ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT YOUR DADDY BERNARD BARKER BEIG IDENTIFIED AS
> THE GUY IMPERSONATING A SECRET SERVICE AGENT BEHIND THE FENCE WITIN SECONDS
> OF THED SHOOTING...
> ===========================================================================
>

Rossfuck, please keep in mind that you've already admitted that you have
absolutely no evidence that anyone other that Oswald was involved.

Now go drool, shit, and piss on yourself some more.

tom...@cox.net

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> h1 7/ ht ml /W H_ Vo l. ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14=3D 4a.htm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLES WHO WOULD THREAT=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/-------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- -- -- - Usenet Newsgroup Service =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.95/Month 30GB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband, tomnln.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You simply don't know what you're talking about and you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't spell or puntuate either, you pathetic old fool.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corrective Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Brennan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney, Australia
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head or the neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added). Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as: XVII 261-262.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh1
thr as no sense explaining bernard basrker to dogshit because he woyldn't
know who barker was to begin with...(apparently you don't either)

Jason Burke

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tom...@cox.net

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /w h1 7/ ht ml /W H_ Vo l. ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14=3D 4a.htm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEAVI IT TO A COMMIE BASTARD LIKE YOU TO ADMIRE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSHOLES WHO WOULD THREAT=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EN
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER FATSO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------http://NewsReader.Com/-----------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- - Usenet Newsgroup Service =A0 =A0 =A0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.95/Month 30GB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs Duran was a Marxist and so was her husband,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomnln.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You simply don't know what you're talking about and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can't spell or puntuate either, you pathetic old
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corrective Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Brennan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney, Australia
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the head or the neck of the target EVEN ONCE.*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Emphasis added). Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/w
TESTIMONY NULLIFIES YOUR CE 2121
BTW;
TELL WHAT VOLUME AND PAGE CE 2121 CAN BE FOUND...
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