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IF THE SBT WERE TRUE......

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Gil Jesus

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Apr 22, 2009, 9:13:06 AM4/22/09
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The WC would not have had to move the back wound to the base of the
neck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vU41qoflU

Ben Holmes

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Apr 22, 2009, 9:34:13 AM4/22/09
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In article <9f1cd679-5ce2-4bfa...@k41g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Gil Jesus says...

>
>The WC would not have had to move the back wound to the base of the
>neck.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vU41qoflU

And the theory of a bullet transit wouldn't be based on speculation formed
*AFTER* the autopsy was over.


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David Von Pein

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Apr 22, 2009, 9:34:32 AM4/22/09
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They didn't "move" the wound, idiot. And CE903 proves it:

http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/119.+CE903?gda=JcisTzwAAADr6tC8UyTBgT86VBHer5Z9PFI1ugUJ9isLKhk7OZrPFyl61k0AMZJieNRhY9YK56_9Wm-ajmzVoAFUlE7c_fAt

"Moving" the back wound to the "neck" doesn't aid the SBT....it ruins
it.

YoHarvey

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Apr 22, 2009, 9:34:49 AM4/22/09
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Stop running and hiding. What is YOUR alternative to the single
bullet fact?

Gil Jesus

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Apr 22, 2009, 10:32:00 AM4/22/09
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On Apr 22, 9:34�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

> They didn't "move" the wound, idiot. And CE903 proves it:


CE 903 shows a bullet path that is above the TOP of the shoulder.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0055b.htm


CE 385 AND CE 386 show the bullet wound in the base of the neck.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0501a.htm


BUT:


1. The autopsy photo shows no such wound in the base of the neck.

http://i43.tinypic.com/3346ezb.jpg


2. In 1997 the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) released a
document that revealed that Ford had altered the first draft of the
report to read: "A bullet had entered the base of the back of his neck
slightly to the right of the spine." Ford had elevated the location of
the wound from its true location in the back to the neck to support
the single bullet theory.

http://www.jfklancer.com/Ford-Rankin.htm


3. FBI agent James W. Sibert confirms that Ford moved the wound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuVsimMTUiQ


NOW SHOW US THE AUTOPSY PHOTO THAT PROVES THERE WAS A BULLET WOUND IN
THE BASE OF THE NECK, DAVID.


curtjester1

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Apr 22, 2009, 12:30:45 PM4/22/09
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On Apr 22, 9:34 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> "Moving" the back wound to the "neck" doesn't aid the SBT....it ruins
> it.

?????

CJ

bigdog

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Apr 22, 2009, 12:44:50 PM4/22/09
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On Apr 22, 10:32 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 9:34 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > They didn't "move" the wound, idiot. And CE903 proves it:
>
> CE 903 shows a bullet path that is above the TOP of the shoulder.
>
Chico, I realize this subject matter is way over your head, but take a
close look at CE903. Specter is holding the rod to show the downward
trajectory of the bullet through the back wound, the frontal throat
exit wound, to the entrance on JBC's back. Do you notice how the
shoulders slope downward away from the neck? Specter is force to move
the rod to the right of the actual entrance wound because he could not
shove it through the JFK sit-in. Yes, that does put the rod above the
shoulders which are lower at that point but the rod is at the level of
the entrance wound on the back which is below the top of the shoulders
and appears to be roughly 5 to 5.5 inches below the top of the collar.
I forget. How far below the top of the collar did the bullet enter?

Gil Jesus

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Apr 22, 2009, 2:00:07 PM4/22/09
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Don't you just love it when they snip out the good parts ?


CE 385 AND CE 386 show the bullet wound in the base of the neck.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol...


BUT:


1. The autopsy photo shows no such wound in the base of the neck.

http://i43.tinypic.com/3346ezb.jpg


2. In 1997 the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) released a
document that revealed that Ford had altered the first draft of the
report to read: "A bullet had entered the base of the back of his
neck
slightly to the right of the spine." Ford had elevated the location
of
the wound from its true location in the back to the neck to support
the single bullet theory.


http://www.jfklancer.com/Ford-Rankin.htm


3. FBI agent James W. Sibert confirms that Ford moved the wound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuVsimMTUiQ


NOW SHOW US THE AUTOPSY PHOTO THAT PROVES THERE WAS A BULLET WOUND IN

THE BASE OF THE NECK, CORBETT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vU41qoflU

aeffects

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Apr 22, 2009, 2:07:24 PM4/22/09
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bigdog-little dick is having a memory lapse.... hon, you need to nad
up, Evidence is the discussion, where do they find these lone nut
wannabes? Fresno JC!

lazu...@webtv.net

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Apr 22, 2009, 4:14:19 PM4/22/09
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The Autopsy face Sheet-the Death Certificate-The Sibert-O'Neill Report-
all place the wound at t-3-both Dr. Ebersole and X-Ray tech Jerrol
Custer put it at near t-4-clint Hill places it at at least t-3 when he
went to the morgue, as requested to view the wounds that night...so,
there is absoutely no excuse for the neck entrance of the Warren
Commission BTW- it was Humes and Boswell who authorized Rydburg to put
the wound in the neck. There's quite a chapter with Navy Illustrator
Harold Rydburg -In The Eye Of History By William Law-I think its his
only print interview...

aeffects

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Apr 22, 2009, 4:34:47 PM4/22/09
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I suspect Von Pein will be aghast when he reads this.... they'll
certainly be many emails to Vinnies secretary asking for guidance in
such matters.... :)

bigdog

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Apr 22, 2009, 10:02:04 PM4/22/09
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On Apr 22, 2:00 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> Don't you just love it when they snip out the good parts ?
>
Don't you just love it when the CTs ignore the tough questions.

bigdog

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Apr 22, 2009, 10:08:34 PM4/22/09
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OK, the description of the wound was rather vague and inaccurate. So
what?. We can see from the autopsy photos exactly where the wound was.
It was in the upper back just below the base of the neck. That is
completely compatible with the SBT. The bullet hit JFK in the upper
back and continued on a downward trajectory to exit from his throat at
the level of the knot in his tie, then struck JBC in just below the
armpit. So let's slap the WC for their imprecise verbage but give them
kudos for their correctly determining that one bullet passed through
both JFK and JBC.

tomnln

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Apr 22, 2009, 11:33:33 PM4/22/09
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"bigdog" <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 4:14 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> The Autopsy face Sheet-the Death Certificate-The Sibert-O'Neill Report-
> all place the wound at t-3-both Dr. Ebersole and X-Ray tech Jerrol
> Custer put it at near t-4-clint Hill places it at at least t-3 when he
> went to the morgue, as requested to view the wounds that night...so,
> there is absoutely no excuse for the neck entrance of the Warren
> Commission BTW- it was Humes and Boswell who authorized Rydburg to put
> the wound in the neck. There's quite a chapter with Navy Illustrator
> Harold Rydburg -In The Eye Of History By William Law-I think its his
> only print interview...
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bigdog wrote;

OK, the description of the wound was rather vague and inaccurate. So
what?. We can see from the autopsy photos exactly where the wound was.
It was in the upper back just below the base of the neck. That is
completely compatible with the SBT. The bullet hit JFK in the upper
back and continued on a downward trajectory to exit from his throat at
the level of the knot in his tie, then struck JBC in just below the
armpit. So let's slap the WC for their imprecise verbage but give them
kudos for their correctly determining that one bullet passed through
both JFK and JBC.


I write;

The bullet hole in JFK's back had an "Upward Trajectory".

Quoted from the HSCA Volume VII page 175.


I'm REALLY looking forward to the radio debate with you ! ! !
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robc...@netscape.com

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Apr 23, 2009, 12:54:32 PM4/23/09
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On Apr 22, 6:34 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> They didn't "move" the wound, idiot. And CE903 proves it:
>
> http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/119.+CE903?gda=JcisTzw...

>
> "Moving" the back wound to the "neck" doesn't aid the SBT....it ruins
> it.

LOL!! Then why did they move it in the first place?

bigdog

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Apr 23, 2009, 1:21:26 PM4/23/09
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On Apr 22, 11:33 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "bigdog" <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:4c5af634-c581-4d5e...@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 22, 4:14 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:> The Autopsy face Sheet-the Death Certificate-The Sibert-O'Neill Report-
> > all place the wound at t-3-both Dr. Ebersole and X-Ray tech Jerrol
> > Custer put it at near t-4-clint Hill places it at at least t-3 when he
> > went to the morgue, as requested to view the wounds that night...so,
> > there is absoutely no excuse for the neck entrance of the Warren
> > Commission BTW- it was Humes and Boswell who authorized Rydburg to put
> > the wound in the neck. There's quite a chapter with Navy Illustrator
> > Harold Rydburg -In The Eye Of History By William Law-I think its his
> > only print interview...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------

> bigdog wrote;
>
> OK, the description of the wound was rather vague and inaccurate. So
> what?. We can see from the autopsy photos exactly where the wound was.
> It was in the upper back just below the base of the neck. That is
> completely compatible with the SBT. The bullet hit JFK in the upper
> back and continued on a downward trajectory to exit from his throat at
> the level of the knot in his tie, then struck JBC in just below the
> armpit. So let's slap the WC for their imprecise verbage but give them
> kudos for their correctly determining that one bullet passed through
> both JFK and JBC.
>
> I write;
>
> The bullet hole in JFK's back had an "Upward Trajectory".
>
> Quoted from the HSCA Volume VII page 175.
>
That's why I have more faith in the WC.

> I'm REALLY looking forward to the radio debate with you ! ! !

So am I, dipshit. Maybe you will be able to explain how someone fired
upward into JFK's back.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-------------------------------------

aeffects

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Apr 23, 2009, 1:36:29 PM4/23/09
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the 45 questions cover this nicely retard, no get your cowardly ass on
to the business of dealing with them -- NAD-UP wannabe! This is no way
to impress .johnny!


> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-------------------------------------

tomnln

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Apr 23, 2009, 3:30:16 PM4/23/09
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"bigdog" <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34c8be12-9a91-40d8...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...

That's only one of the Official Records you're gonna have to address on the
radio debate Bunky !
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aeffects

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Apr 23, 2009, 3:41:01 PM4/23/09
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Tom..... the troll will run and run and run..... we call him, Justme-
no NADS-hubby 1952!

justm...@gmail.com

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Apr 23, 2009, 4:28:27 PM4/23/09
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We???? You mean you and the other 15 retards that live inside that
ugly skull of yours? ROFLMAO you stupid delusional psycho!

tomnln

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"aeffects" <aeffe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I gave chuckie's phone number to Anton Batey;

I'll ask Anton if he has contacted bigdog Yet?
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bigdog

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Apr 23, 2009, 10:02:36 PM4/23/09
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bring it on, toothless.

tomnln

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Apr 24, 2009, 1:04:38 AM4/24/09
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"bigdog" <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 23, 3:30 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "bigdog" <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:34c8be12-9a91-40d8...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 22, 11:33 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "bigdog" <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4c5af634-c581-4d5e...@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 22, 4:14 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:> The Autopsy face
> > Sheet-the
> > Death Certificate-The Sibert-O'Neill Report-
> > > all place the wound at t-3-both Dr. Ebersole and X-Ray tech Jerrol
> > > Custer put it at near t-4-clint Hill places it at at least t-3 when he
> > > went to the morgue, as requested to view the wounds that night...so,
> > > there is absoutely no excuse for the neck entrance of the Warren
> > > Commission BTW- it was Humes and Boswell who authorized Rydburg to put
> > > the wound in the neck. There's quite a chapter with Navy Illustrator
> > > Harold Rydburg -In The Eye Of History By William Law-I think its his
> > > only print interview...
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------限------------------------------------------------

> > bigdog wrote;
>
> > OK, the description of the wound was rather vague and inaccurate. So
> > what?. We can see from the autopsy photos exactly where the wound was.
> > It was in the upper back just below the base of the neck. That is
> > completely compatible with the SBT. The bullet hit JFK in the upper
> > back and continued on a downward trajectory to exit from his throat at
> > the level of the knot in his tie, then struck JBC in just below the
> > armpit. So let's slap the WC for their imprecise verbage but give them
> > kudos for their correctly determining that one bullet passed through
> > both JFK and JBC.
>
> > I write;
>
> > The bullet hole in JFK's back had an "Upward Trajectory".
>
> > Quoted from the HSCA Volume VII page 175.
>
> That's why I have more faith in the WC.
>
> > I'm REALLY looking forward to the radio debate with you ! ! !
>
> So am I, dipshit. Maybe you will be able to explain how someone fired
> upward into JFK's back.
>
> That's only one of the Official Records you're gonna have to address on
> the
> radio debate Bunky !
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bigdog wrote;

Bring it on, toothless.

I write;

Has Anton Batey invited you to a radio debate yet?

You don't suppose after reading your posts he decided you're NOT
knowledgable enough to take up valuable radio time! ! !

Here's how you can reach Anton Batey in case you wanna Kiss his ass to put
you on his radio show>>>

http://www.youtube.com/inbox?to_users=AntonBatey&action_compose=1

Remember;

Tell him yer smart.
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tomnln

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Apr 24, 2009, 1:42:39 AM4/24/09
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"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Viewed from a point of an "Entrance" in the throat, from the height of the
fence atop the grassy knoll,
that Backwound would be an "Exit" wouldn't it ! ! !

THAT would explain the trajectory of the back wound.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
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