Dorothy Kilgallen not a suicide or overdose.

[donoh...@gmail.com]

She wasn`t just writing an article proving The Warren Report the biggest lie in history. She was writing a book, and had been the only one allowed to interview Ruby. A journalist like herself always kept recordings and notes when they interview. Authorities claim she took no notes or any recording. Her publisher gave her an advance when she showed them what she had written so far. Then when asked where the book segments were the publisher denied ever seeing any of it. A cased check with the note at the bottome reading, "For advance payment on partial book.". Like all media daring to show anything contrary to The Warren Report they were "gotten to" by forces within our own Gov`t. To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report.

[sbha...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-8, donoh...@gmail.com wrote:
> She wasn`t just writing an article proving The Warren Report the biggest lie in history. She was writing a book, and had been the only one allowed to interview Ruby. A journalist like herself always kept recordings and notes when they interview. Authorities claim she took no notes or any recording. Her publisher gave her an advance when she showed them what she had written so far. Then when asked where the book segments were the publisher denied ever seeing any of it. A cased check with the note at the bottome reading, "For advance payment on partial book.". Like all media daring to show anything contrary to The Warren Report they were "gotten to" by forces within our own Gov`t. To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report.

===

Kilgallen's interview of Ruby was a few minutes and was with a bunch of other reporters, not an "exclusive."

The rest of it is that Kilgallen was duped by various CT's an fell for them. One was Mark Lane, using much of the crap that clogs forums like this (ie. Weitzman's mistaken ID of the rifle as a Mauser). She also fell for Robert Groden's idea that the the Oswald backyard photos are fakes. This is the Robert Groden who in the 1993 OJ Simpson trial testified that the photo of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli shoes was a fake. (Later 30 more photos of Simpson on the same day by another photographer turned up-- there was no fake).

She conducted her own investigation of the Brennan ID of Oswald under conditions not at all like those at the TSBD, and then proceed to repeat the assertion that Brennan cannot have ID'ed Oswald at the final shot because the Zapruder film shows Brennan looking in another direction (true only for earlier segments-- he is at the depository, and of course is not visible at the final shot).

She, like her husband, was barbituate pill addict and alcoholic. She slurred her way through her last episode of What's My Line? and was dead 4 hours later, of a probable accidental overdose. Nothing to see, here.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/kilgallen.txt

[lazu...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-8, donoh...@gmail.com wrote:

> She wasn`t just writing an article proving The Warren Report the biggest lie in history. She was writing a book, and had been the only one allowed to interview Ruby. A journalist like herself always kept recordings and notes when they interview. Authorities claim she took no notes or any recording. Her publisher gave her an advance when she showed them what she had written so far. Then when asked where the book segments were the publisher denied ever seeing any of it. A cased check with the note at the bottome reading, "For advance payment on partial book.". Like all media daring to show anything contrary to The Warren Report they were "gotten to" by forces within our own Gov`t. To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report. Too may pills for it to be an accident-no evidence of suicide, besides she was the only major reporter not enough of an ass kisser to accept the Warren Report and was going to see someone in New Orleans and break the case.

[gggg gggg]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:00:39 AM UTC-8, lazu...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-8, donoh...@gmail.com wrote:

> > She wasn`t just writing an article proving The Warren Report the biggest lie in history. She was writing a book, and had been the only one allowed to interview Ruby. A journalist like herself always kept recordings and notes when they interview. Authorities claim she took no notes or any recording. Her publisher gave her an advance when she showed them what she had written so far. Then when asked where the book segments were the publisher denied ever seeing any of it. A cased check with the note at the bottome reading, "For advance payment on partial book.". Like all media daring to show anything contrary to The Warren Report they were "gotten to" by forces within our own Gov`t. To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report...

What about this 1966 tv program?

(Youtube upload):

"Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: The Warren Report: Fact or Fiction?"

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

One could argue that "former" CIA man Buckley was simply platforming the most prominent controlled opposition figure, Mark Lane. Or one could argue that the plan had been for Lane to wither away in the heat of Buckley's brilliance, which did not happen at all. Lane wiped the floor with Buckley. Lane was a great critic of the investigation, but he was extraordinarily uninterested in what actually did happen, and perhaps he was controlled opposition on that basis. There will always be critics of the Official Story, but they are not dangerous unless they say what actually happened. So the Mark Lane paradigm of not saying what happened might have been presented to the critics as a model for their own behavior. "Be great like Mark Lane by not saying what really did happen."

[John Corbett]

The Warren Commission said what happened. Accept it or reject it but there isn't another choice.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

You're very stupid for a spook, George.

[Ben Holmes]

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:01:20 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Warren Commission said what happened. Accept it or reject it but there isn't another choice.

How STUPID of you! The other, and quite obivous choice is to accept
where they followed the evidence, and reject when they didn't.

[gggg gggg]

(Youtube upload):

"What's My Line? - Dorothy's Final Show - Joey Heatherton (Nov 7, 1965) [W/ COMMERCIALS]"

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

The irony is that on her final show Dorothy thought that the celebrity guest was Marilyn Monroe, even though Monroe had died 3 years before. Was she really that sloshed?

[David Von Pein]

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:41:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> The irony is that on her final show Dorothy thought that the celebrity guest was Marilyn Monroe, even though Monroe had died 3 years before. Was she really that sloshed?

Nonsense. Dorothy thought nothing of the kind. The name "Norma" can apply to people other than just Marilyn.

http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2014/05/whats-my-line-november-7-1965.html

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Name another celebrity at the time who's real name had been Norma!

[gggg gggg]

She had actually met Monroe:

https://www.google.cm/search?q=kilgallen+monroe&sca_esv=560294702&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=ObTpZOycG8fikPIPuuSRuAQ&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOnCSYW9WgavTBlaBMp6WceH4YEnR1If&ved=0ahUKEwisnYbS8PmAAxVHMUQIHTpyBEcQ4dUDCAc&uact=5&oq=kilgallen+monroe&gs_lp=EgNpbWciEGtpbGdhbGxlbiBtb25yb2VI3xhQAFipF3AAeACQAQCYAeABoAGtC6oBBjExLjQuMbgBA8gBAPgBAYoCC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAggQABixAxiDAcICBRAAGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAgYQABgFGB7CAgcQABgYGIAEwgIGEAAYCBge&sclient=img

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Yes indeed! Dorothy knew Marilyn, and certainly knew that she was not the mystery celebrity on her final show...and yet she asked Heatherton if her "real name" was Norma. DVP will not find another Norma that makes sense. He will just run away. So why would Dorothy on her last show cryptically point to Marilyn Monroe?

[gggg gggg]

The moderator of WHAT'S MY LINE? John Daly was the son-in-law of Earl Warren whose Commission Kilgallen had criticized.

[David Von Pein]

Good! More conspiracies!

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:26:52 AM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
> Good! More conspiracies!

So, who are all of those other "Norma's" you had in mind?

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Yes indeed! And we know that somebody had leaked Warren Commission testimony to Dorothy. Something weird went on here. Also, Dorothy was having substantial money problems at this time, at least that's what I read somewhere. Even though she was part of the celebrity class.

[David Von Pein]

No idea. But there obviously was at least one "Norma" that Dorothy had in mind. Because she certainly didn't just forget that MM was dead.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

DVP retreats to the circular reasoning of his Nutter Retard hamster wheel. He finds it comforting!

[David Von Pein]

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 5:00:54 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> DVP retreats to the circular reasoning of his Nutter Retard hamster wheel. He finds it comforting!

It's called "logical thinking" and "reasonable inference" and "discounting things that are silly and ridiculous".

You, being a conspiracy fantasist, wouldn't know what those things are all about, however.

[David Von Pein]

Dorothy's Death.....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-712.html

[gggg gggg]

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-8, donoh...@gmail.com wrote:

> She wasn`t just writing an article proving The Warren Report the biggest lie in history. She was writing a book, and had been the only one allowed to interview Ruby. A journalist like herself always kept recordings and notes when they interview. Authorities claim she took no notes or any recording. Her publisher gave her an advance when she showed them what she had written so far. Then when asked where the book segments were the publisher denied ever seeing any of it. A cased check with the note at the bottome reading, "For advance payment on partial book.". Like all media daring to show anything contrary to The Warren Report they were "gotten to" by forces within our own Gov`t. To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report.

https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/dorothy-kilgallen.htm

[gggg gggg]

(2023 Youtube upload):

"The Suspicious Death of Dorothy Kilgallen"

[John Corbett]

It's amazing what people will write when they turn their imaginations loose.

[gggg gggg]

(2023 Youtube upload):

"The fascinating life and mysterious death of Dorothy Kilgallen"

[Hank Sienzant]

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:51:49 AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:

I’d love to see the citation for this claim:
“To this day television networks are forbidden to air anything that question Warren Report.”

Go ahead, we’ll wait.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 5:25:11 AM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
> Dorothy's Death.....
>
> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-712.html

That's a wonderfully evidence-free analysis of Dorothy Kilgallen's death. Oh, Von Pein, you've done it again!

[John Corbett]

It's the conspiracy hobbyists who want to dispute the official finding that Dorothy Kilgallen's
death was something other than an overdose. They are the ones who need to provide the
evidence.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

You're free to take whatever evidence-free approach you like!

[John Corbett]

Evidence free is all the conspiracy hobbyists have ever offered.

[David Von Pein]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:48:41 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> That's a wonderfully evidence-free analysis of Dorothy Kilgallen's death. Oh, Von Pein, you've done it again!

Thanks. Always happy to help the conspiracy-happy fantasists by imparting a little basic common sense.

[Sky Throne 19efppp]

Ignoring evidence always makes Nutter Retards happy!

[Ben Holmes]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:51:49?AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:

It's amazing what liars think passes for truth...

[Ben Holmes]

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 04:49:33 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:51:49?AM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:

We'll wait **FOREVER** for you to address the topics you keep running
from. You're so dumb that you believe:

That the "A.B.C.D" description in the Autopsy Report refers to the
location of the bullet wound in the back of JFK's head.

Yet is TERRIFIED of quoting the sentence that precedes that in the
Autopsy Report.

And why do you make the baseless and lyiing claim that JFK's neck
wound was dissected?

Watch, as Huckster simply runs away from his unsupported claims.

[Ben Holmes]

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 02:25:09 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:

>Dorothy's Death.....
>
>http://jfk-archives.blogsp

Why do you bother posting cites when you will NEVER defend the
information in them here in open forum?

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:


>Evidence free is all the conspiracy hobbyists have ever offered.

As long as you define "conspiracy hobbyists" as believers, you are
absolutely correct.

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 09:43:25 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>It's the conspiracy hobbyists who want to dispute the official finding...

The official finding is that there were probably multiple shooters in
the JFK case.

You dispute that.

You lose.

[Ben Holmes]

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 01:42:19 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:33:15?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:26:52?AM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>> > Good! More conspiracies!
>>
>> So, who are all of those other "Norma's" you had in mind?
>
>No idea. But there obviously was at least one "Norma" that Dorothy had in mind. Because she certainly didn't just forget that MM was dead.

Speculation is a believer's best friend.

[Ben Holmes]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 22:48:07 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:48:41?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> That's a wonderfully evidence-free analysis of Dorothy Kilgallen's death. Oh, Von Pein, you've done it again!

Logical fallacy deleted.

Only Von Penis would be proud of giving evidence-free information.

[Ben Holmes]

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 02:15:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 5:00:54?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> DVP retreats to the circular reasoning of his Nutter Retard hamster wheel. He finds it comforting!
>
>It's called "logical thinking" and "reasonable inference" and "discounting things that are silly and ridiculous".

No, it's called "speculation."