Rapid Fire Not Difficult Dr. Lattimer's Son Does This Easily ...... ! Varsity Recalled .....Not Needed ..... !
cdddraftsman
Gil Jesus
> http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vrtrvr
Now, Lowry, answer this one question, which I keep asking and you keep
running from:
Did Lattimer's son do this with the "Oswald" rifle, or with another
rifle ?
cdddraftsman
No but unless I'm mistaken it wouldn't take LHO's exact rifle to get
test results that accurately reflect the accuracy of LHO's rifle .
These are production run , mass produced rifles that can be expected
to fire in accuarcy about the same from rifle to rifle depending upon
the condition of the rifle .
From LHO's perspective I would think that his rifle performed as
expected although he must of gotten a bit annoyed after firing two
shots and not seeing any results , His third shot however as Howard
Brennan said he seemed to be quite satisfied with the results .
I can believe you would of been more successful selling used car parts
and kept your mouth shut about anything to do about the
assassination , but as *They* say a loud mouth and ignorance go hand
in hand . You're the best example of this saying being a truism .
I suppose you've 'coughed up' some more spurious examples of this not
being so and we await a hardy laugh as you fumble and flounder your
way though a reply , we wait with baited breath ?
Tic toc tic toc .....
tl
YoHarvey
ROFLMAO, ROFLMAO, ROFLAMO. Chico Jesus/Robcap, queen of the "runners"
accusing TL of running. Jesus? You have RUN and HIDDEN from EVERY
question EVER asked of you. Queens do that. You ran and hid from
this question just yesterday:
The thread your originated "Did YoHarvey post as ED?" accuses me as
posting as Ed, so you're either knowingly lying AGAIN, or simply the
most ignorant uneducated CT in research. Which one is it?
Jesus? You're a closet queen living in a slum and they isn't a thing
you can do about it..........including running. As Joe Louis once
again...."you can run, but you can't hide". We know where you are. I
own you Jesus, you're mine!!
Walt
> On May 11, 3:05 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 11, 4:56�am, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vrtrvr
>
> > Now, Lowry, answer this one question, which I keep asking and you keep
> > running from:
>
> > Did Lattimer's son do this with the "Oswald" rifle, or with another
> > rifle ?
>
> No but unless I'm mistaken it wouldn't take LHO's exact rifle to get
> test results that accurately reflect the accuracy of LHO's rifle .
If the same rifle isn't used the results are unreliable...... I can
take two rifles that appear to be identical and one might fire a one
inch group, while the best the other rifle will do is a six inch
group. The condition of the bore is the critical issue.....
Walt
>
> > On May 11, 4:56�am, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vrtrvr
>
> > Now, Lowry, answer this one question, which I keep asking and you keep
> > running from:
>
> > Did Lattimer's son do this with the "Oswald" rifle, or with another
> > rifle ?
>
> No but unless I'm mistaken it wouldn't take LHO's exact rifle to get
> test results that accurately reflect the accuracy of LHO's rifle .
> These are production run , mass produced rifles that can be expected
> to fire in accuarcy about the same from rifle to rifle depending upon
> the condition of the rifle .
>
From LHO's perspective I would think that his rifle performed as
expected although he must of gotten a bit annoyed after firing two
shots and not seeing any results
Hey Daffy.... Since you're offering goofy opinions.....Let me ask
you..How would Oswald have known where his bullets were hitting?? If
LHO had been the rapidly firing gunman and he fired three times in
less than 6 seconds when did he have time to judge where the bullets
were striking and adjust his aim to compensate for the error??? HOW
would he know where the bullets were hitting...What visual reaction
could he have seen to know where the bullets were striking???
Walt
Hello Gil...... I don't know how experienced and knowledgable you are
with rifles, but obviously Lowery and all other LNer's don't have a
clue. Here's just a couple of questions that have to be answered if
the crime is going to be hung on Oswald......
How would Oswald have known where his bullets were hitting?? If
LHO had been the rapidly firing gunman and he fired three times in
less than 6 seconds when did he have time to judge where the bullets
were striking and adjust his aim to compensate for the error??? HOW
would he know where the bullets were hitting...What visable reaction
could he have seen to know where the bullets were striking??? Even
if the car had been covered with a powder that would have kicked up
dust
from a bullet strike, he wouldn't have had time look for he strike and
then
adjust his aim to compensate fot the error.
This whole idea is a CROCK!!
Gil Jesus
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What's this got to do with the JFK assassination, Ed ?
Gil Jesus
I agree....and so is the lone-nut concept of testing the performance
of a particular weapon by using a completely different weapon.
justm...@gmail.com
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Discovery Channel's reenactment of bullet CE399's path
A Discovery Channel special "Unsolved History: JFK — Beyond the Magic
Bullet", attempted to replicate, as well as possible, the conditions
of that day. The participants set up blocks of ballistics gel with a
substance similar to human bone inside. These studies showed that
largely undeformed bullets were possible to produce, if they were
slowed by a passage though a tissue-like substance before striking
bone. Next, two mannequin figures made of ballistic anatomical
substances (animal skin, gelatin, and interior bone-like cast) were
set up in the exact relative position of JFK and Connally. A marksman,
from a distance equal to that of the sixth floor of the Book
Depository building, fired the same rifle model found in the Book
Depository, using a round from the same batch of "Western Case
Cartridge Company" 6.5x52 mm ammunition purchased with the surplus
Carcano weapon in early 1963. The path of their single bullet
(followed by high speed photography) duplicated, almost exactly, the
wounds suffered by the victims that day, the only difference being
that the bullet did not quite have enough energy to penetrate the
"thigh" substance in front of the Connally figure, because it struck
an extra bone in the "rib" model (i.e., it fractured 2 ribs in the
model vs. one rib in Connally). It was also slightly more deformed
than CE 399, possibly for the same reason. However, this bullet came
close enough to duplicating all wounds in both men with a single shot,
with a bullet having little deformation. Thus the theory was proven to
be much more plausible than previously thought.[29]
Walt
Yes, your right...... I wonder if when they have a problem with
their Ford's transmission they test drive another identical Ford to
try to diagnose the problem with their car. What utterly stupid
idea.......
justm...@gmail.com
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Discovery Channel's reenactment of bullet CE399's path
Ben Holmes
Gil Jesus says...
>
>On May 11, 10:28=C2=A0am, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 11, 10:03=C2=A0am, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 11, 3:05=C2=A0am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On May 11, 4:56=EF=BF=BDam, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrot=
>e:
>>
>> > > >http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=3D2vrtrvr
>>
>> > > Now, Lowry, answer this one question, which I keep asking and you keep=
>
>> > > running from:
>>
>> > > Did Lattimer's son do this with the "Oswald" rifle, or with another
>> > > rifle ?
>>
>> > No but unless I'm mistaken it wouldn't take LHO's exact rifle to get
>> > test results that accurately reflect the accuracy of LHO's rifle .
>> > These are production run , mass produced rifles that can be expected
>> > to fire in accuarcy about the same from rifle to rifle depending upon
>> > the condition of the rifle .
>>
>> > From LHO's perspective I would think that his rifle performed as
>> > expected although he must of gotten a bit annoyed after firing two
>> > shots and not seeing any results , His third shot however as Howard
>> > Brennan said he seemed to be quite satisfied with the results .
>>
>> > I can believe you would of been more successful selling used car parts
>> > and kept your mouth shut about anything to do about the
>> > assassination , but as *They* say a loud mouth and ignorance go hand
>> > in hand . You're the best example of this saying being a truism .
>>
>> > I suppose you've 'coughed up' some more spurious examples of this not
>> > being so and we await a hardy laugh as you fumble and flounder your
>> > way though a reply , we wait with baited breath ?
>>
>> > Tic toc tic toc .....
>>
>> > tl
>>
>"
>> accusing TL of running. =C2=A0Jesus? =C2=A0You have RUN and HIDDEN from EV=
>ERY
>> question EVER asked of you. =C2=A0Queens do that. =C2=A0You ran and hid fr=
>om
>> this question just yesterday:
>>
>> The thread your originated "Did YoHarvey post as ED?" accuses me as
>> posting as Ed, so you're either knowingly lying AGAIN, or simply the
>> most ignorant uneducated CT in research. Which one is it?
>>
>> Jesus? You're a closet queen living in a slum and they isn't a thing
>> you can do about it..........including running. As Joe Louis once
>> again...."you can run, but you can't hide".
Joe Louis was never afraid to put it on the line.
>> We know where you are.
I'm easy to find, yet no-one comes knocking...
>> I own you Jesus, you're mine!!
An amusing phrase... and one I've *never* heard while standing on a mat. Step
up to the plate now - I just broke one of my toes, and you'll never have a
better shot!
>What's this got to do with the JFK assassination, Ed ?
Nothing at all. This is what puts the kooks in my killfile... sheer inability
to address the evidence in the JFK conspiracy case.
cdddraftsman
>
>
> If the same rifle isn't used the results are unreliable...... I can
> take two rifles that appear to be identical and one might fire a one
> inch group, while the best the other rifle will do is a six inch
> group. The condition of the bore is the critical issue.....
>
The condition of the bore is not the critical issue . It's whether a
person uses the right ammunition :
Mag30th :
"When using standard 6.5mm (.264) rounds this gun is very inaccurate .
This rifle is designed to use (.268) rounds"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ayL8RXJTs&feature=related
end .........
It then becomes a choice weapon , easy to handle and fire !
tl
cdddraftsman
>
>
I think the pink spray from a exploding brain/skull would be enough
for most people .
Why ?
Are you going to Cecil B. DeMille it for us and recreate the head
shot ?
If so we'll get your cupcakes Robert Harris to sit in on a live firing
recreation .
tl
cdddraftsman
Your whole idea sure is . He had 10 seconds +- to acheive his goal
and
I don't think he was tracking and taking notes between shots
cupcakes .
tl
cdddraftsman
>
>
> Yes, your right...... I wonder if when they have a problem with
> their Ford's transmission they test drive another identical Ford to
> try to diagnose the problem with their car. What utterly stupid
> idea.......
>
>
Speaking of proper car maintenance : Why not try putting your brain
in gear before engaging your mouth next time .
tl
justm...@gmail.com
> In article <3c5e274f-a695-489b-924f-9b8047988...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
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Is Holmes now inviting physical confrontations to others on this
group? Is the little man trying to show everyone what a tuffie he
is??
Holmes? I highly doubt anyone would waste their pennies to confront
you even if they had the pleasure of kicking your ass. You're a
nobody, deal with it.
Walt
Ha,ha,ha, ROTFLMAO..... This is almost as stupidly hilarious as your
idea that the 1941 Carcano was being used in 1891......
The "pink spray" that many witnesses reported was caused by the
explosion of JFK's head, which was the LAST shot....So there would
have been no need to correct any error in the aiming point....Watta
moron.....Ha,ha,ha,ha,
>
> Why ?
>
> Are you going to Cecil B. DeMille it for us and recreate the head
> shot ?
>
> If so we'll get your cupcakes Robert Harris to sit in on a live firing
> recreation .
>
> tl- Hide quoted text -
>
Walt
THAT, my idiot friend is the whole point!!!
Oswald would not have had time to track his shots and note where they
were striking....
Walt
> On May 11, 11:04 am, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If the same rifle isn't used the results are unreliable...... I can
> > take two rifles that appear to be identical and one might fire a one
> > inch group, while the best the other rifle will do is a six inch
> > group. The condition of the bore is the critical issue.....
>
> The condition of the bore is not the critical issue . It's whether a
> person uses the right ammunition :
Why would you want to expose your ignorance and make an idiotic
statement like ....Quote.."The condition of the bore is not the
Gil Jesus
>
> "When using standard 6.5mm (.264) rounds this gun is very inaccurate .
> This rifle is designed to use (.268) rounds"
So now you can make up for the "very inaccurate" rifle by changing
ammunition !!!!
No need to scope the rifle in.
No need to adjust the sights.......
A BLESSING TO EVERY POOR SHOT WHO EVER LIVED !!!!
ROFLMAO......can these dunderheads get any DUMBER ?
Gil Jesus
> own you Jesus, you're mine!!-
I don't think that you're that stupid to do something criminal and
risk going to jail, Mr. Ed.
Because if anything happens to me or my family, someone on this
newsgroup WILL report your threats to police.
As SOP, authorities WILL be checking my computer to view my
correspondences.
But just in case you ARE thinking of committing a crime, I have a
right as a homeowner to defend myself in my own home. So heed this
message:
Anytime you're feeling froggy, Mr. Ed, you go ahead and jump.
I'll be waiting.
Ben Holmes
Gil Jesus says...
>
>On May 11, 10:28=EF=BF=BDam, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> =EF=BF=BDWe know where you are. =EF=BF=BDI
>> own you Jesus, you're mine!!-
>
>I don't think that you're that stupid to do something criminal and
>risk going to jail, Mr. Ed.
>
>Because if anything happens to me or my family, someone on this
>newsgroup WILL report your threats to police.
>
>As SOP, authorities WILL be checking my computer to view my
>correspondences.
>
>But just in case you ARE thinking of committing a crime, I have a
>right as a homeowner to defend myself in my own home. So heed this
>message:
>
>Anytime you're feeling froggy, Mr. Ed, you go ahead and jump.
>
>I'll be waiting.
In all the years of training at the same place - easily findable on the net -
I've *NEVER* had any unwelcome visitors come to try their luck. Trolls are
cowards at heart, and will bluster alot, but will never show up.
aeffects
in about 5 minutes the lone Nut morons will be declaring victory over
an un-encountered enemy, such is the life of acj trolls of the ONI
type (sic).... and Lone Nut-pukesters of course.....
45 questions - 16 smoking guns.... you're not helping HBO here
son..... they're here already..... Von Pein knows it!
David Von Pein
assassination books have been totally "ignored" by Vincent Bugliosi in
VB's book "Reclaiming History" is just flat-out silly.
This is similar to the equally-false allegation--put forth by a
certain Mr. Ben Holmes on the Internet--that Mr. Bugliosi has totally
ignored and/or sidestepped all 16 of Fetzer's "Smoking Guns".
But the truth is: Bugliosi doesn't just completely IGNORE the
conspiracy-slanted allegations put forth in Fetzer's books; nor has
Vince "ignored" the main points that Fetzer focuses on in his absurd
"16 Smoking Guns" list.
Evidently, people like Fetzer and Holmes must think that because
Bugliosi decided not to call one of his chapters in his JFK book
"Debunking All Of James Fetzer's Theories, One-By-One", this therefore
means (per those kooks) that Vince has totally "ignored" the
individual conspiracy theories set forth in Fetzer's three books and
in his "Smoking Guns" laundry list (linked below).
www.assassinationscience.com/prologue.html
But this, of course, is nonsense of the first (kook) order. Because as
I fully illustrate within the two Internet posts linked below, Vincent
Bugliosi, in "Reclaiming History", has most certainly addressed,
confronted, and knocked down ALL of the theories and allegations put
on the table by Dr. Fetzer (and virtually all other major conspiracy
authors).
And while it's true that Vince hasn't done this theory-debunking with
specific chapters in his book devoted solely to Super-Kook James H.
Fetzer, the theories espoused by Fetzer are most certainly still
addressed and covered SOMEWHERE within Mr. Bugliosi's massive book
(and the accompanying CD-ROM full of Endnotes). Several examples are
provided below (including a section on the ultra-ridiculous "Zapruder
Film Alteration" theory):
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/43b260d8af96ca00
www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3200858-post.html
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BATTLING FETZER'S CRAP:
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4294fe7425ff7088
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