Riiiight!!.... Don't you realize how valuable the lines from a
perspective movie are??? Thr liars would have us believe that the
"transcript" was lines for a movie that Henry Wade was planning to
make. Just how dumb and gullible do the arrogant bastards think we
are??
The reason they have kept the contents of Wades safe secret since his
death is because they couldn't make a reasonable innocous explanation
for that transcript being in Henry Wades safe. They apparently
thought they could get us to believe the crap about it being for a non
existant movie script.
Oh boy! Walt must be in 7th-Heaven today! A new story about a make-
believe JFK conspiracy plot!
Gary Mack's comments to the press sum things up pretty nicely, IMO:
"The fact that it's sitting in Henry Wade's file, and he didn't
do anything, indicates he thought it wasn't worth anything. He
probably kept it because it was funny. It's hilarious. It's like a bad
B movie." -- Gary Mack
But Walt will take this "new evidence" and run straight to the CT Goal
Line with it, spike the ball, and claim a landslide victory.
Walt will have us believe that Oswald actually said this to Jack Ruby
on October 4, 1963 (per the movie script found in the Dallas DA's
safe):
"I can still do it, all I need is my rifle and a tall building;
but it will take time, maybe six months to find the right place; but
I'll have to have some money to live on while I do the planning."
Ruby then decides to kill his "partner in crime" two days after Ozzie
murders the President. That's a neat twist, huh? (Must be "Mob"
involvement, right Walt? Ruby was just jerking Oswald's weak-minded
chain, right?)
www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/021908dnmetjfkdocs.11944de.html
www.dallasnews.com/video/dallasnews/hp/index.html?nvid=219131
Not only that, but Walt doesn't grasp that this theory-if it was
correct-disproves his own theory.
Kooks are kooky.
Yes. You're exactly right.
Kooks like Walt are ready to jump on board ANY boat mark "conspiracy",
even though this one (as Chuck rightly points out) totally contradicts
Walt's theory about Oswald shooting NOBODY on Nov. 22nd.
Kooky indeed.
http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2008/02/wading-through-muck.html
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-08/0219rubyoswald.pdf
"It took me all of five seconds to find the answers to the key
questions about this alleged conversation on the Internet. The Dallas
D.A.'s office, which announced today during a live news conference
that they had been cataloging the items in former District Attorney
Henry Wade's safe for a year, apparently never lifted a finger to find
out what the supposed transcript was and what the source for it
was. ....
"In his December 5 {1963} letter to J. Edgar Hoover, {Carroll}
Jarnagin 're-created' the conversation he heard between Ruby and
'Lee'. That transcript contains phrases similar to the alleged
"transcript" found in Henry Wade's safe, including the alleged Ruby
statement, "...the Feds would get into everything..." [Jarnagin] "...it
would get the Feds into everything..." [Wade safe 'transcript']. ....
"You would think that Dallas District Attorney Craig Watkins
would have spent a few minutes to find out what the Wade transcript
was all about before crowing to the world that he had discovered
something of significance. Instead, he managed to further muck up the
works.
"No doubt, in twenty years time, we'll be still dealing with
this current round of lunacy brought on by the Dallas D.A.'s office. I
can hear the question now, "Didn't they discover a transcript that
proves Ruby and Oswald knew each other?"
" "No, little Johnny," I'll have to say. "It was just some
nincompoop in the D.A.'s office who was overloading it and everyone
jumped on the bandwagon."
"Which only goes to prove, that IT NEVER ENDS." -- DALE K.
MYERS; 02/18/2008
<snip VonPeins nonsense>
both BOTH hands on the keyboard, son. there's time for that when you
finally get a commission check from Bugliosi....
about what -- that fucking idiot can't even come in out of the
rain.....
Holy Mackerel, what a super-kook Healy is.
Jarnagin's letter to Hoover is CE 2821, btw.
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh26/pdf/WH26_CE_2821.pdf
www.jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2008/02/wading-through-muck.html
www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-08/0219rubyoswald.pdf
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Addendum.....
Can you just imagine Ruby & Oswald sitting down in the Carousel Club
-- OUT IN THE OPENNESS OF THE CLUB FOR EVERY EAVESDROPPER WITHIN
EARSHOT TO HEAR (vs. the obviously-preferred option of having this
very sensitive and covert conversation behind closed doors) -- with Oz
saying stuff like "I can shoot his [RFK's] brother"?
Just silly beyond all possible belief.
As Myers points out (with various cites to back him up), the "Oz/Ruby
transcript" is probably a variation of the idiotic ramblings of a
drunk named Carroll Jarnagin.
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh26/html/WH_Vol26_0145b.htm
A bit harsh, I think. Jarnagin may have been an alcoholic, who flunked
a polygraph examination, and perhaps his sensational claims were
contradicted by his exotic dancer girlfriend and later embellished...
...but does any of this make him a less likely harbinger of truth than
David Healy?
As should David Healy.
This Jarnagin fellow quite obviously invented the whole story about
Oswald and Ruby discussing JFK's murder. He should be ridiculed and
scorned to the maximum degree.
(Maybe "Much" was just playin' with me -- to get a jab in at Healy. Is
that it? If so, that's always a worthwhile and fruitful endeavor.)
Dale Myers is making the same point that I was attempting to
make.... The transcript is a crock....
The only difference between Myer's perspective and mine is: ..... If
it was in Henry Wades safe, it was valuable to Henry Wade.... and
since I know what a unscrupless bastard Wade was I believe he had that
document for a good reason. He probably used it to keep Ruby in line,
by blackmailing him..... saying that he'd charge Ruby with conspiring
to kill JFK and send him to get his hair singe curled in Huntsville if
he didn't behave himself.
All the LNer's dismiss it because they say we know it's a fake because
Lee Oswald could not have been at the Ruby's Carousel at the time that
the recording was made. They completely ignore the FACT that Oswald
was being impersonated by another man at that time, and this
"transcript" could be evidence that Ruby and the Oswald impersonator
were plotting to kill JFK.
Let's not forget that Healy believes the Zapruder film is
altered...also do not forget Healy thinks Zapruder is fake.
The mentality of an idiot, if Zapruder doesn't exist how can his film
be altered? Healy is best to just be ignored. His posts very seldom if
ever make any sense. He spends all his time talking about lesbians and
wankers..it's apparently what he has the most knowledge in.
While driving my daughter to work this morning, they were talking
about the findings in Dallas. The radio announcer made an interesting
comment. He said, "Now the conspiracy theorists will spend another 5
or more years trying to prove this document is the real thing. Even
when it is proven to be nothing more then an untrue document, they
will use this as more proof of conspiracy. The shame is, the younger
generation that has not studied the case will quickly be taken in by
a document that means nothing."
Be prepared for another Gil Jesus youtube video with some idiot
claiming its the real deal, which Jesus will endorse knowing its a
sham. This is how the CT's lure uneducated people into their traps.
Then again, the only ones they lure are fantasy seeking morons like
themselves. Healys already believing it, just look at his post LOL...I
rest my case.
Leave it to Walt to put a conspiracy twist on a document that's a
farce....it just never ends!
I DOUBT IT......
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VIA VINCENT BUGLIOSI'S 2007 JFK BOOK, "RECLAIMING HISTORY":
"A few other claims of a Ruby-Oswald connection include one by a
Dallas lawyer named Carroll Jarnagin, who came up with such a far-
fetched story it's a wonder the Texas State Bar didn't conduct a
hearing into his fitness to practice law.
"It wasn't so much his lie (or dream) that on the evening of
October 4, 1963, he was seated in a booth in the Carousel with a
former Carousel stripper known as "Robin S. Hood" (Shirley Ann
Mauldin) and that he saw and heard Jack Ruby talking to Oswald in the
next booth. People lie or imagine things all the time, and if Jarnagin
had left it at that he wouldn't have stood out.
"But shortly after the assassination, Jarnagin sent an eight-
page typewritten letter to the FBI detailing, word for word, like a
transcript, everything Ruby and Oswald said back and forth to each
other in a very long conversation. No rational person would believe
this, particularly when Jarnagin admits he was drunk at the time, had
an alcohol problem, and was considering joining Alcoholics Anonymous.
(A few years earlier, Jarnagin was arrested for being drunk out on the
street.)
"The gist of Ruby and Oswald's conversation, per Jarnagin,
concerned their decision to murder Governor Connally because Connally
wasn't allowing syndicated crime into Texas. Oswald assures Ruby that
since he was a marine sharpshooter he can get the job done. (CE 2821,
26 H 254-258)
""Robin S. Hood" was interviewed by the FBI and said she and
Jarnagin were indeed at the Carousel that night but no such incident
took place. She does recall Ruby coming over to their booth and asking
her to work at the Carousel again. (CE 2821, 26 H 259, FBI interview
of Shirley Ann Mauldin on December 8, 1963)
"Why anyone would even bother giving Jarnagin a polygraph test I
don't know, but Dallas DA Henry Wade did, and Jarnagin, of course,
failed it (5 H 232-234, 239, WCT Henry Wade). So badly did he fail it
that Wade told Dallas Morning News reporter Hugh Aynesworth that the
needle "went off the charts, far off the charts" (Aynesworth with
Michaud, JFK: Breaking the News, p.231)." -- VINCE BUGLIOSI; PAGES
631-632 OF "RH" ENDNOTES
Yer so dumb that you fail to realize that the announcer's comment has
two faces....
There's a high probablity that the radio announcer himself is one of
the "younger generation" and many of them will jump to the same
conclusion that he did. (That the CT's are a bunch of kooks) ..... The
younger generation that has not studied the case will quickly be
taken in by the news media who also have not studied the case, but act
like they know the truth, and go along with their masters because they
don't want to lose their FCC license.
The announcer is a 67 yr old native of where I live who has been on
the same radio show for years. He has brains and logic something the
rest of you old farts lack.
Psssst...Von Pea brain...Put a dollar with your opinion and you can
get a cup of coffe at Mc D's
You're merely showing how unthinking and gullible you are by endorsing
Gary Mack's opinion.
"The fact that it's sitting in Henry Wade's file, and he didn't
do anything, indicates he thought it wasn't worth anything. He
probably kept it because it was funny. It's hilarious. It's like a bad
B movie." -- Gary Mack
Riiiight, wink, wink...... Wade probably thought this joke was so
funny that he had to keep in in his safe along with Jack Ruby's brass
knuckles. I guess that would makes perfect sense to a gullible
moron.
>
> But Walt will take this "new evidence" and run straight to the CT Goal
> Line with it, spike the ball, and claim a landslide victory.
>
> Walt will have us believe that Oswald actually said this to Jack Ruby
> on October 4, 1963 (per the movie script found in the Dallas DA's
> safe):
>
> "I can still do it, all I need is my rifle and a tall building;
> but it will take time, maybe six months to find the right place; but
> I'll have to have some money to live on while I do the planning."
>
> Ruby then decides to kill his "partner in crime" two days after Ozzie
> murders the President. That's a neat twist, huh? (Must be "Mob"
> involvement, right Walt? Ruby was just jerking Oswald's weak-minded
> chain, right?)
>
> www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/021908dnme...
>
> www.dallasnews.com/video/dallasnews/hp/index.html?nvid=219131
Regardless of the announcer's age... The point is still valid.
The younger generation that has not studied the case will quickly be
taken in by the news media who also have not studied the case, but act
like they know the truth, and go along with their masters because they
don't want to lose their FCC license.
Most media personalities will fall in line with the official
government proclaimation (if they want to stay on the air)
Was there a single person in the USA who WASN'T out to frame poor
Oswald in 1963 (or who wasn't up to "no good" in some shady fashion
that same year)? Anybody at all?
You've added Henry Wade to your made-up list of rotten scumbags
("unscrupulous bastard" I believe was the term for Henry). Nice.
But how about Marina?
Marguerite?
Robert Oswald?
Little Junie?
Surely you can wrap a label of "Plotter" around the necks of one or
more of those LHO relatives too...can't you, Mister Super-Mega-Kook?
Marina certainly had a motive to want her dear sweet hubby to hang for
murder -- she was beaten by the bastard regularly.
Get busy on the "Marina Set Up Lee" theory, Mr. K-Word. I want to to
see you earn your kook stripe for February.
Ten-Four?
we know your scared, Reitzes..... you're failing as are Lone Nuts
everywhere USENET boards and private forums. What we have at BEST is a
Lone Nut holding pattern till daBugliosi can cement the deal with HBO
and say: "yep, cameras roll on such and such a date..."
Everywhere you turn you're getting beat down.... even GMack has to hit
the cable talkshow trail again, even he is not hiding behind his CT
facade any longer....
Notice how the Nutter's have a tendency to gather on a single thread,
sure sign of weakness.... they're tiring.....
Walts lost touch with reality, he's joined his mental case sidekicks
Jesus, Healy and Rossley. What a scarey thought if the 4 of them
should ever be released in a rubber room together.
Now we have JC...another person using the name Jesus. He probably
thinks hes holier then thou just like our resident pathological liar,
Christian hypocrite, bigot, racist Gil Jesus does. How lucky can we
get???
sitdown tuna crotch, you old dried up old crone.... a face that looks
like 20 miles of bad road, dance sweet gloria dance..... LMFAO -- and
stop laughing Reitzes ole Just*puke*me1952 and her brother
jecorbett1951 are two of your biggest fans.... when they post in a
thread you're dropped into the run around their house naked claiming
to be the original tuna-twins....
Wish he would. My archived files containing threads with his rancid
posts in them are akin to the stench of rotten eggs (or of Healy after
a three-day-long drug session).
Please put me on "ignore", Davey-boy. I'm begging you. (I'll even toss
in a few bucks for your next acid trip. How 'bout it? After all, a
deal like that doesn't come along from a Disinfo Agent every day of
the week.)
That happened years ago.
Fresno/Bakersfield radio gave us Buck Owens music too..... wake up
tuna-crotch
Psssst....It's gonna come as a surprise to you, but if you check back
about 20 years Henry Wade has always been on the top of my list of
authorities who were bent on framing Oswald. I didn't just add him
to my list....As a matter of fact "you" are my latest entry on that
list.
LMAO! Right on, Walt......
you're a fly in the ointment and you'll drown in your own bullshit
soon enough....then we'll see another alias... perhaps David Von Pein
part III, eh....
LMFAO!
************************
If you're so well read on the subject, why don't you ever address
evidence/testimony?
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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justme writes;
Walts lost touch with reality, he's joined his mental case sidekicks
Jesus, Healy and Rossley. What a scarey thought if the 4 of them
should ever be released in a rubber room together.
Now we have JC...another person using the name Jesus. He probably
thinks hes holier then thou just like our resident pathological liar,
Christian hypocrite, bigot, racist Gil Jesus does. How lucky can we
get???
I write;
How nice of the CUNT to bring me into one of her posts again;
It gives me ANOTHER Opportunity to point out that this Lying CUNT Never
addresses her own evidence/testimony.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
justme is here ONLY to distract from evidence/testimony by insulting other
posters.
When those posters Retaliate with insults, she becomes a CRY-BABY.
Typical Nazi justice from an Eva Braun CUNT.
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DVP,
Healy has no life, the chances of him ignoring any post made by a LN
are slim. He actually thinks the jibberish and filth that comes out of
his mouth is coherent. Healys experience with wankers, hookers, drug
addicts (of which he participates daily) gays and lesbians and tuna
crotches is astounding. He really should try spending less time on the
strip and around his tuna smelling wife and daughter and see what the
real world is all about. Then again, the real world would laugh at him
just like we do. He's a loser, thats why he can relate to the mommas
boy Gil Jesus and the alcoholic pig mouthed Rossley. Their 3 peas in a
pod. I'll sit back and wait for Rossley to call me a "C" again, it's
giving me quite a list to send out to his family. BTW Healy, I have
your daughters address, would you like me to post it incase anyone
here needs a cheap date???
DVP,
Healy has no life, the chances of him ignoring any post made by a LN
are slim. He actually thinks the jibberish and filth that comes out of
his mouth is coherent. Healys experience with wankers, hookers, drug
addicts (of which he participates daily) gays and lesbians and tuna
crotches is astounding. He really should try spending less time on the
strip and around his tuna smelling wife and daughter and see what the
real world is all about. Then again, the real world would laugh at him
just like we do. He's a loser, thats why he can relate to the mommas
boy Gil Jesus and the alcoholic pig mouthed Rossley. Their 3 peas in a
pod. I'll sit back and wait for Rossley to call me a "C" again, it's
giving me quite a list to send out to his family. BTW Healy, I have
your daughters address, would you like me to post it incase anyone
here needs a cheap date???
********************
Dodging your own evidence/testimony AGAIN Huh Cunt?
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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ROTFLMAO David.
On this board, I own you you creepo lesbian impersonator..... who can
doubt that. I post you waddles in. And not far behind that [facts
being what they are], damn near all the Lone Nutter's are interested
in "behind", must be a disease....
"Right on"???? LMFAO at the junkie , still stuck in some drug induced haze.
He thinks its still the sixties. You and Wally make a lovely couple, you
have the combined IQ of a toenail clipping.
Again Healy talks about someones ass and lesbians. You own NOTHING
Healy, you don't even own the 590 foot roach infested apartment you
live in! You think we don't know about you? Think again old man. I
know more then you could have ever imagined. You didn't answer me,
want your daughters address posted? Maybe she can make a few extra
bucks with some cheap tricks. Now back off scum bag....you're
outnumbered and useless.
here toots-e-roll, here doggie, doggie, doggie..... you old dried up
crone you..... come to papa.....
sitdown Sam and think Four Elephants while your cleaning out
Just*puke*me1952's withered old crotch.....
Sammy, Bob Vernon and Dave Reitzes....... ROTFLMFAO! what-a-combo......
It's a shame Healys too damn stupid to see what a fool he makes of
himself with each post. Then again, it gives us something to humiliate
and laugh at LOL
stop being jealous, you old crone..... there's help for you in that
nursing home
The day I would be jealous of you is the day I slit my wrists. I can
type a coherent sentance, we already know you can't even come close.
An old fart like you calling someone 10 years younger an old crone,
now thats a good laugh. You have a face like a 90 year old scrotum.
The scrotum is more appealing.
15 BOXES??!!...... The news report I heard said "a couple of boxes",
and my impression was they were not very big boxes.... The news
report said there were letters of correspondence to / from Henry Wade
to/ from Ruby. The report didn't say if they were pre-assassination or
post-assassination. They also said that there were a pair of brass
knuckles and a leather pistol holster in the safe.
This sounds like the stuff that was found in the trunk of Jack Ruby's
car after he murdered Oswald.... The list of stuff in the trunk of
Ruby's Oldsmobile included some cardboard boxes, two pairs of brass
knuckles, a leather pistol holster, 59 permanent passes to the
Carousel Club for some very well know people, among them, Dallas
District attorney William Alexander, DPD Patrolman Ray Hawkins, the
manager of the Adolphus Hotel Andy Anderson;..et al $873.50 in cash,
A victor adding machine, and some items of mens clothing. There trunk
was apparently a veritable dump of old receipts, letters, parking
tickets, telephone bills; etc.
I wish
> people could see the bigger picture, NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS and like
> the Purported JFK Love child, not flap their gums passing judgement till
> they know something...Jeff
Well I'm sure you and I are two of the "kooks" that the news media had
in mind when they said the CT's are not going to believe that the
"transcript" in Henry Wades safe is just a joke that he thought was
really funny. BTW does the word "transcript" mean that there was/ is
a tape recording in that safe??
>>> "Didn't you see all the boxes piled up? Looks like a sniper's nest." <<<
Yes, that's true. There are a lot of boxes there. There MUST be a
Smoking Gun in one of them someplace. Right?
www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/v3/02-19-2008.NMC_19jfkWATKINS.G6B2BFVN4.1.jpg
Maybe somebody can pretend that the 2 sets of brass knuckles
("aluminum knuckles", per CE1322) have some kind of "tie in" to the
assassination.
The knuckles, along with dozens and dozens of other items, were found
in Ruby's car (aka: Jack's "rolling, lowbrow thrift shop", per V.
Bugliosi on Page 1095 of "Reclaiming History").
Perhaps Ruby pulled the ol' "Knuckle Sandwich" bit on Patsy Oswald.
Maybe that's why Oz decided to kill the President. He feared the
'brass'.
BTW, here's just a small sampling of some of the items found in Ruby's
vehicle on 11/24/63:
Rubber tips for chair legs, a can of varnish stain, a paper sack
containing $837.50, unpaid traffic tickets, a box of razor blades,
bars of soap, hardware, stationery, an adding machine, sport coat and
slacks, golf shoes and several golf balls, a single roll of toilet
paper, gobs of newspapers, an umbrella ["TUM" fans should investigate
this asap!], a bathing cap, some bail bond cards, an empty wallet, a
carton with hundreds of 8x10 glossy photos of Jack's nightclub
stripper "Jada", and (my favorite) two pairs of aluminum knuckles.
FYI,
Every last item found in Jack's junk-filled Oldsmobile is detailed in
CE1322:
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0266a.htm