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Ben Holmes

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May 26, 2012, 12:15:49 PM5/26/12
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Found this in the censored (alt.assassination.jfk) forum:



In article <55de67f0-aed3-42d6...@cu1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
David Von Pein says...
>
>
>
>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/reclaiming-history-errors.html
>
>Re: "Carrico" and "ragged":
>
>My explanation that I laid out in the above post in July 2011 is very
>likely the correct and most reasonable explanation for Mr. Bugliosi's
>"ragged" gaffe.
>
>Excerpts from that post:
>
> "My opinion is that Vince has somehow confused himself into thinking
>that the "ragged" quotes that definitely did come from both Dr. Carrico
>and Dr. Perry are quotes that he feels confident enough to utilize in his
>book to explain the way the wound in JFK's throat (on the whole) looked to
>each of those doctors (Carrico and Perry).
>
> "When, in fact, Vince is incorrect when he tries to merge the two
>wounds. Because he surely also knows (or he should know by reading the
>testimony of both Dr. Carrico and Dr. Perry) that those doctors were
>referring to two DIFFERENT wounds in the President's throat when they
>testified and when the Parkland Hospital report was written.
>
>[...]
>
> "But I also truly believe that these errors are not intentional
>"lies". Given the fact that there was, indeed, a wound associated with
>President Kennedy's neck/throat injury that was described by more than one
>doctor as being "ragged" in nature, Bugliosi's utilization of the word
>"ragged" could very well be--I'm sorry to say--a bit of a "senior moment"
>on the part of Mr. Vincent T. Bugliosi.
>
>[...]
>
> "I'm not excusing any "ragged" errors that Vince Bugliosi has made
>in his JFK book, I'm merely attempting to provide a POSSIBLE explanation
>for why those errors appear on Pages 207 and 413 of "Reclaiming History".
>
> "And I refuse to ever believe that Vincent Bugliosi is (or ever was)
>an outright liar. I refuse to believe that Vince would be willing to print
>something in one of his books that he KNOWS IS A FLAT-OUT LIE. I will
>never believe that kind of thing could ever apply to Mr. Vincent Bugliosi.
>Because, in my opinion, Vince is just not cut from that sort of devious
>cloth. If certain conspiracy theorists want to disagree with my last
>comment, so be it. But I'll always stand by what I just said." -- DVP;
>7/14/11


Anyone care to guess what the odds are that *anyone* in the censored forum will
rip this post to shreds, as it should be?

You won't find the truth in the censored forum.

Attention: DVP - I'll be illustrating this weekend just how this post of yours
will be "blown totally out of the water"...


Watch for it...


Gather your fellow kooks together for support...


Then post my refutation on your website if you have any courage or honesty left.


--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com

aeffects

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May 26, 2012, 4:13:46 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 9:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> Found this in the censored (alt.assassination.jfk) forum:
>
> In article <55de67f0-aed3-42d6-9498-5dd17a650...@cu1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
the VB/DVP nutter committee will meet this weekend to discuss this
sudden turn of events... I can hear the creaks in Dave Reitzes bones
and his moans and groans at being called back on 'troll' duty....

Ben Holmes

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May 26, 2012, 5:29:46 PM5/26/12
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In article <f4621c02-5d66-4f29...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...
>
>On May 26, 9:15=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>> Found this in the censored (alt.assassination.jfk) forum:
>>
>> In article <55de67f0-aed3-42d6-9498-5dd17a650...@cu1g2000vbb.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>> David Von Pein says...
>>
>>
>> >http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/reclaiming-history-errors.html
>>
>> >Re: "Carrico" and "ragged":
>>
>> >My explanation that I laid out in the above post in July 2011 is very
>> >likely the correct and most reasonable explanation for Mr. Bugliosi's
>> >"ragged" gaffe.
>>
>> >Excerpts from that post:
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0"My opinion is that Vince has somehow confused himself into =
>thinking
>> >that the "ragged" quotes that definitely did come from both Dr. Carrico
>> >and Dr. Perry are quotes that he feels confident enough to utilize in hi=
>s
>> >book to explain the way the wound in JFK's throat (on the whole) looked =
>to
>> >each of those doctors (Carrico and Perry).
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0"When, in fact, Vince is incorrect when he tries to merge th=
>e two
>> >wounds. Because he surely also knows (or he should know by reading the
>> >testimony of both Dr. Carrico and Dr. Perry) that those doctors were
>> >referring to two DIFFERENT wounds in the President's throat when they
>> >testified and when the Parkland Hospital report was written.
>>
>> >[...]
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0"But I also truly believe that these errors are not intentio=
>nal
>> >"lies". Given the fact that there was, indeed, a wound associated with
>> >President Kennedy's neck/throat injury that was described by more than o=
>ne
>> >doctor as being "ragged" in nature, Bugliosi's utilization of the word
>> >"ragged" could very well be--I'm sorry to say--a bit of a "senior moment=
>"
>> >on the part of Mr. Vincent T. Bugliosi.
>>
>> >[...]
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0"I'm not excusing any "ragged" errors that Vince Bugliosi ha=
>s made
>> >in his JFK book, I'm merely attempting to provide a POSSIBLE explanation
>> >for why those errors appear on Pages 207 and 413 of "Reclaiming History"=
>.
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0"And I refuse to ever believe that Vincent Bugliosi is (or e=
>ver was)
>> >an outright liar. I refuse to believe that Vince would be willing to pri=
>nt
>> >something in one of his books that he KNOWS IS A FLAT-OUT LIE. I will
>> >never believe that kind of thing could ever apply to Mr. Vincent Buglios=
>i.
>> >Because, in my opinion, Vince is just not cut from that sort of devious
>> >cloth. If certain conspiracy theorists want to disagree with my last
>> >comment, so be it. But I'll always stand by what I just said." -- DVP;
>> >7/14/11
>>
>> Anyone care to guess what the odds are that *anyone* in the censored foru=
>m will
>> rip this post to shreds, as it should be?
>>
>> You won't find the truth in the censored forum.
>>
>> Attention: DVP - I'll be illustrating this weekend just how this post of =
>yours
>> will be "blown totally out of the water"...
>>
>> Watch for it...
>>
>> Gather your fellow kooks together for support...
>>
>> Then post my refutation on your website if you have any courage or honest=
>y left.
>
>the VB/DVP nutter committee will meet this weekend to discuss this
>sudden turn of events... I can hear the creaks in Dave Reitzes bones
>and his moans and groans at being called back on 'troll' duty....

Spent an hour on it... it's finished. You'll find quotes from other kooks, such
as "Bud" and "Timmy" in there too.

I think I'll wait until Tuesday to post it...

That'll give DVP a bad Memorial Day weekend, thinking about what's coming.

timstter

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May 26, 2012, 6:10:02 PM5/26/12
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On May 27, 2:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> Found this in the censored (alt.assassination.jfk) forum:
>
> In article <55de67f0-aed3-42d6-9498-5dd17a650...@cu1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
LOL! You know, Holmes, after all the excuses YOU have made for the
blatant research lies of Mark Lane, and your own failed theories on
Zapruder film alteration, not to mention your tacit approval and
encouragement of the vile ad hominem of Healy, you simply don't have a
credibible leg left to stand on.

No one cares what your opinion on any matter is, Holmes.

You are openly mocked as Yellow Pants, hypocritical clown.

Dismissive Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

aeffects

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May 26, 2012, 7:33:00 PM5/26/12
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evidently you're part-n-partial of an upcoming post here on acj.....
(see above) best get next months troll invoice (for percy-pinkpants
here aka Tim Shell, Brennan) in before its too late! ROTFLMFAO! ! ! !

<snip the loons sig block>

aeffects

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May 26, 2012, 7:41:09 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 2:29 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <f4621c02-5d66-4f29-b1e3-2a4cf1f47...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
look forward to it....

timstter

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May 26, 2012, 9:42:29 PM5/26/12
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LOL! I bet you will, you slavering, pathetic, Pavlovian dog.

It's quite PATHETIC to behold, Dave.

Disgusted Regards,

Samantha Brown

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May 26, 2012, 10:32:02 PM5/26/12
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"timstter" <tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:81ff348d-47e6-45cf...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
Crackpipe's slavish sycophancy is astonishing to behold. Incredibly
demeaning to Healey but he seems blissfully unaware. Retch inducing for the
rest of us. Ick.


aeffects

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May 27, 2012, 1:15:51 AM5/27/12
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sit pooch, sit! that's a good girl..... L-M-F-A-O

timstter

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May 27, 2012, 3:54:06 PM5/27/12
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Dave, I think you should consider amending your sig block on posts to
Y-M-F-A-O, with the Y indicating yapping.

That would be more in accordance with you lapdog, Pavlovian status
around the place.

Good idea or WHAT?! :-)

Helpful Regards,

lazu...@webtv.net

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May 29, 2012, 1:33:03 PM5/29/12
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Trying to resurrect Bugliosi...is like trying to resurrect the political
career of John Edwards...Laz

aeffects

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May 29, 2012, 1:51:38 PM5/29/12
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On May 29, 10:33 am, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> Trying to resurrect Bugliosi...is like trying to resurrect the political
> career of John Edwards...Laz

indeed!

David Von Pein

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May 29, 2012, 8:53:01 PM5/29/12
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3938031553b4da6d

aeffects

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May 30, 2012, 3:38:33 AM5/30/12
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On May 29, 5:53 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip>

you're advertising shithead.... deal with the topic, you're not bored.
you're defenseless, spinning a web of deceit--get real hon!

aeffects

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May 30, 2012, 3:31:28 AM5/30/12
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On May 29, 5:53 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3938031553b4da6d

address the thread topic, what are you scared of?

David Von Pein

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May 30, 2012, 5:46:16 AM5/30/12
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>>> "Deal with the topic." <<<

I did. A year ago:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/reclaiming-history-errors.html

Ben Holmes

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May 30, 2012, 10:28:54 AM5/30/12
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In article <aa804c1f-7c7f-4289...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...
It's rather funny that although I can dissect his post almost sentence by
sentence, and point out the errors, lies, and misrepresentations - the kooks
generally refuse to do the same.

They can't.

ala

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May 31, 2012, 10:54:24 PM5/31/12
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"timstter" <tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fe46662f-a3dc-4a5f...@t2g2000pbl.googlegroups.com...


>You are openly mocked as Yellow Pants, hypocritical clown.




I would rather be called Yellow Snuggie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05ZQ7WHw8Y&feature=fvw

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