Prayer Man Thread On ROKC

Scrum Drum

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Dec 11, 2021, 8:40:10 PM12/11/21

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The idiots at ROKC have found a very important FBI teletype from 11-23...I ask you to read my post on it on my Prayer Woman Facebook page that I am linking to see I have cracked the case and solved the scenario in the Book Depository and put it all together...It is kind of a fucked-up Kennedy research community that you can finally crack the case better than anyone in 58 years and show it to the people who call themselves the main researchers and they have no reaction and don't even notice...That's really kind of dumb...If you read my Prayer Woman page post you will see that the subtle clues in this teletype back my discovery 100%:

https://www.facebook.com/Prayer-Woman-1648957192079151

Scrum Drum

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Dec 14, 2021, 12:27:24 PM12/14/21

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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 8:40:10 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:

The reason FBI mixed up the sequence in its claim that Oswald went outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes when Shelley was seen going up the Elm St extension at that time, and therefore could not be out on the front steps with Oswald, is because FBI knew Oswald had been bailed out by "superintendent" Shelley in the Lobby and led out the rear exit...FBI knew potential witnesses might arise to this assistance by Shelley so they re-arranged the statements to confusedly place Oswald with Shelley at that time...

The Prayer Man people know Oswald was not seen larking with Shelley on the front steps for 10 minutes after the assassination...That's ridiculous and they know it isn't possible...So what they do is they try to bend everything towards Prayer Man being Oswald by saying FBI was changing Oswald's being Prayer Man during the shots to his being out there after the assassination...However, since we know Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton (and the Prayer Man people are such pathetic losers that they won't admit it), and we know Shelley escorted Oswald out the loading dock, the real interpretation of FBI's deception is they needed to place Oswald with Shelley at the time Shelley snuck Oswald out the back but do it in a way that covers-up this clandestine escorting...Instead of saying CIA Shelley saw that CIA Oswald was in trouble after being stopped in the Lobby and aided him around the police cordon by escorting him out the back, what FBI does is place Oswald and Shelley on the front steps so they can make an excuse for any witnessings of Shelley escorting Oswald out the back...This phony standing with Oswald out front for 10 minutes after the shots is designed as damage control in case anyone came forward and testified that Shelley escorted Oswald out the rear after he was stopped by a cop in the Lobby...

You can tell this is right on the money and cracks the case in the Book Depository because the usual Prayer Man trolls totally ignore it...It is devastating to them so their only cowardly option is booby ignoring (and trolling)...

Greg Parker

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Dec 14, 2021, 9:21:10 PM12/14/21

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On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:27:24 AM UTC+11, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 8:40:10 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:
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> The reason FBI mixed up the sequence in its claim that Oswald went outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes when Shelley was seen going up the Elm St extension at that time,

Seen by whom?

and therefore could not be out on the front steps with Oswald, is because FBI knew Oswald had been bailed out by "superintendent" Shelley in the Lobby and led out the rear exit...

When did Shelley get promoted? Where is your evidence that Shelley led anyone out of the rear exit?

FBI knew potential witnesses might arise to this assistance by Shelley so they re-arranged the statements to confusedly place Oswald with Shelley at that time...

Or that is what Oswald was claiming and you are re-arranging and inventing scenarios without a scintila f supporting evidence.

> The Prayer Man people know Oswald was not seen larking with Shelley on the front steps for 10 minutes after the assassination...

Quote anyone ever saying that Oswald was "larking" with Shelley on the front steps.

larking (present participle)
enjoy oneself by behaving in a playful and mischievous way.
"he's always joking and larking about in the office"

> That's ridiculous and they know it isn't possible...

It is ridiculous for you to say anyone ever said it.

So what they do is they try to bend everything towards Prayer Man being Oswald by saying FBI was changing Oswald's being Prayer Man during the shots to his being out there after the assassination...

We know what Oswald said. It is spelled out plainly in Hosty's notes.

Got coke from 2nd floor
Went back to domino room had lunch
Went outside to watch presidential parade.

We know wat happened after that from other testimony and reports.

He did not stay out vey long and was seen by Campbell straight after the shots near a storage room on the first floor. We know from Holmes that he eventually realized something bad had happened because of all the commotion and hysteria, so he tried to go back out but was stopped by a cop and asked to wait. Soon, he was allowed to leave after showing Kaminsky his library card and having it confirmed by Truly that he was an employee.

Straight after that, Truly got Lumpy to take him up to see Fritz to report Ozzie Rabbit was now in the hop.

> However, since we know Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton (and the Prayer Man people are such pathetic losers that they won't admit it),

We don't know any such thing What we do know is that a bitter ex Ed Forum member from Scotland played an April Fool's Day joke claiming that PM was female. He has admitted this was jke on s umber of occasions now. But you, being even more bitter than even he is, decided you would run with that and now hide your nonsense behind the 300 pound girth ofan innocent but grossly obese Sarah.

> and we know Shelley escorted Oswald out the loading dock,

We know no such thing, He made this up out of whole cloth.

the real interpretation of FBI's deception is they needed to place Oswald with Shelley at the time Shelley snuck Oswald out the back but do it in a way that covers-up this clandestine escorting..

The real interpretation is that you have an ovr-active imagination.

> .Instead of saying CIA Shelley saw that CIA Oswald was in trouble after being stopped in the Lobby and aided him around the police cordon by escorting him out the back,

Since Oswald was the designated fall guy, why didn't "CIA Shelly" just give "CIA designated Patsy" Oswald up? I am surprised Shelly didn''t join the made up witness death list for letting the CIA designated Patsy out of there alive.

> what FBI does is place Oswald and Shelley on the front steps so they can make an excuse for any witnessings of Shelley escorting Oswald out the back...

Or Oswald really did say he was out there with Shelley. Because he was. There is real evidence for that. There is no evidence that supports your imaginative scenarios.

> This phony standing with Oswald out front for 10 minutes after the shots is designed as damage control in case anyone came forward and testified that Shelley escorted Oswald out the rear after he was stopped by a cop in the Lobby...

I believe what was said was "5 or 10 minutes", but in reality would have been no more than 3 or 4 minutes based on the totality of the evidence.

> You can tell this is right on the money and cracks the case in the Book Depository because the usual Prayer Man trolls totally ignore it...It is devastating to them so their only cowardly option is booby ignoring (and trolling)...

It is indeed, devastating, Devastatingly hilarious how, with every road block you encounter, you just imagine CIA trickery and poof! No more road block.

Your other hero, Roy Truly was also a hero to the FBI. Do you think that is because his bullshit 2nd floor story actually helped Oswald? Nope. It was because his bullshit 2nd floor story allowed the FBI to say that Oswald could get down in time from the 6th floor for that encounter to have happened.

So appreciative was the FBI of the help they got from your heru that when he went to Washington, they gave him and the husband of his costar, Mrs Reid, a grand tour of FBI HQ.

The FBI had it's tongue so far up Truly's ass they could tell what he ate for breakfast!

Scrum Drum

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Dec 15, 2021, 2:29:12 PM12/15/21

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On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 9:21:10 PM UTC-5, gregr...@outlook.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:27:24 AM UTC+11, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 8:40:10 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:

> > The reason FBI mixed up the sequence in its claim that Oswald went outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes when Shelley was seen going up the Elm St extension at that time,
> Seen by whom?

It is proven that Lovelady & Shelley are the two men seen going up the Elm St extension in the Couch/Darnell film...Sandy Larsen did an excellent photo analysis proving the plaid pattern on the man going up the extension perfectly matched that of Lovelady...However Larsen realized his correct ID then disproved Prayer Man being Oswald because his identifying Calvery on the steps meant that Frazier was talking to Stanton...Larsen realized his correct identification of Lovelady & Shelley proved the timing of what is seen in Couch/Darnell and therefore excluded Prayer Man from being Oswald, so the dishonest bastard deleted his photo analysis and dropped the Prayer Man subject...Even Bart Kamp admits the two men seen walking up the extension are Lovelady & Shelley...

> and therefore could not be out on the front steps with Oswald, is because FBI knew Oswald had been bailed out by "superintendent" Shelley in the Lobby and led out the rear exit...
> When did Shelley get promoted? Where is your evidence that Shelley led anyone out of the rear exit?

You're an idiot...We know that the cop stopped Oswald in the Lobby at around 5 plus minutes after the shots according to Holmes...Since Truly was upstairs with Baker at that time the only superintendent who could have cleared Oswald was Shelley...Shelley was CIA so he bailed fellow CIA op Oswald out of being stopped by leading him to the loading dock exit where Frazier would see Oswald exit at that time...This had to be covered-up because it showed that Shelley knew who Oswald was so the Commission buried it and didn't interview the cop at the front door...If Truly had cleared Oswald at the front door he would have spoken about it and they would have said "Manager Truly"...They left the name off because it was Shelley...And they buried this ID-ing of Oswald because it showed who Shelley was...

> FBI knew potential witnesses might arise to this assistance by Shelley so they re-arranged the statements to confusedly place Oswald with Shelley at that time...
> Or that is what Oswald was claiming and you are re-arranging and inventing scenarios without a scintila f supporting evidence.

There's plenty of evidence for this...You're just a trolling idiot who is ignoring it as his first offering and then responding, like all trolls do, by saying I have no evidence...You are trollishly failing to recognize that I have proven my case because we know Shelley wasn't out on the steps for 10 minutes after the shots...Shelley left the steps at around 21 seconds after the shots, as seen in Darnell...The reason FBI lied and inserted Oswald standing on the front steps with Shelley 5 to 10 minutes after the shots was because they needed to cover any potential witnesses speaking up about Shelley clearing Oswald in the Lobby and leading him out the back...The correct evidence you are ignoring/denying forces this...Shelley went around the west side of the Depository and then came back up to the Lobby 5 minutes after the shots from the inside of the building...THIS is when Shelley stood around with Oswald, who was prevented from going out the front door by a cop in the Lobby...And THIS is why FBI lied and changed it to "outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes"...You're an asshole because you never ask yourself why the Commission and FBI never investigated these Lobby doings at 5 to 10 minutes after the assassination...They did ZERO and totally ignored it...

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> Got coke from 2nd floor
> Went back to domino room had lunch
> Went outside to watch presidential parade.

What you ROKC trolls do is you ignore that when we line-up Hosty's Notes with Fritz's and Bookhout's that all three possess an identical chronological order of starting at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...All three then go downstairs to eat lunch, and all three then go out on the front steps...The important thing is all three sets of notes start at the 2nd floor Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...You scumbags are totally dishonest by trying to ignore that and push a false, Bart Kamp-based interpretation of the Hosty Notes placing Oswald outside as Prayer Man...This is what you Prayer Man scumbags do...You ignore countering evidence and use dishonest wording to force your Prayer Man bullshit...You assholes also totally ignore my break-through interview with Sarah Stanton's grand daughter who spoke of Sarah hearing Oswald say he intended to go back in to the Break Room...You assholes just ignore evidence that you don't want to hear...

Another stupid thing you do is you ignore the obvious fact that Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty all start at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...The reason they do that is because they are omitting the fact that Oswald told them he was in the 2nd floor Lunch Room during the shots...That's why all three sets of notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds later...

> He did not stay out vey long and was seen by Campbell straight after the shots near a storage room on the first floor. We know from Holmes that he eventually realized something bad had happened because of all the commotion and hysteria, so he tried to go back out but was stopped by a cop and asked to wait. Soon, he was allowed to leave after showing Kaminsky his library card and having it confirmed by Truly that he was an employee.

You are a liar who is just offering Greg Parker's silly boy's version that comes right out of his ass...The real version that you ignore has Oswald telling Stanton that he was not going outside to watch the motorcade but intended to go back in to the Break Room instead...Oswald's doing that was corroborated by Carolyn Arnold who saw Oswald eating lunch at his regular seat at 12:25 just like he told Stanton...Oswald's presence in the 2nd floor Lunch Room during the shots was confirmed by Truly & Baker who saw Oswald in there 6 minutes after Carolyn Arnold...You are a liar because Campbell did not return to the Lobby until he went to the Knoll and back...The Oswald Campbell saw was the white T-shirt Oswald, which is why the FBI didn't ask Campbell to describe what his Oswald was wearing...Campbell could not have gone right back in because Mrs Reid did not see the white T-shirt Oswald until after Baker & Truly's encounter...

You are a proven liar because Holmes overheard Oswald say that he went downstairs to see what the commotion was about...Oswald said he actually went down the stairs so that means it couldn't be the front steps, like you dementedly lie, because we know the cop stopped Oswald from doing that and told him to step aside...You're a liar because Frazier said he saw Oswald leave via the rear loading dock...Plus there are zero witnesses to Oswald leaving through the front and we have evidence of guilt in the FBI not investigating that alleged leaving through the front or interviewing the cop about it...You guys are childish assholes because you never question why the Commission and FBI never investigated one of the most important pieces of evidence in Oswald's leaving...You're just making up stuff that the real facts disprove...

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> Straight after that, Truly got Lumpy to take him up to see Fritz to report Ozzie Rabbit was now in the hop.

You are a lying asshole and trouble-making ROKC troll because Zambanini has Lumpkin not going in to the Depository until 12:50 on film...What this means is you are a demented nut who ignores evidence in its face...And Zambanini is one of your own ROKC members...You ROKC scum are used to being unchallenged so you enter stupid stuff and try to get away with it...However only a moron or troll would ignore that Oswald's being cleared in the Lobby occurred at 5 to 10 minutes after the shots and Lumpkin didn't get back to the Depository until 10 minutes later...Again, if I were moderator I would move on you with this and use it to limit your posting on this subject because you are clearly not posting with good intentions and are entering stupid material...You are stupidly running roughshod across a proven time line...

> > However, since we know Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton (and the Prayer Man people are such pathetic losers that they won't admit it),
> We don't know any such thing What we do know is that a bitter ex Ed Forum member from Scotland played an April Fool's Day joke claiming that PM was female. He has admitted this was jke on s umber of occasions now. But you, being even more bitter than even he is, decided you would run with that and now hide your nonsense behind the 300 pound girth ofan innocent but grossly obese Sarah.

You are just repeating your lies...I have already proven Prayer Man is Stanton by means of the Davidson enhancement that Duncan enlarged and posted...All Duncan did was enlarge Davidson's photo enhancement to make it more visible...So Duncan has nothing to do with it...This is Davidson's discovery...He posted his metadata and posted in public that his enhancement showed Prayer Man was a woman...I have told you this repeatedly but you ignore it and enter your kiddie trolling that Duncan admitted it was a joke...That's not at all true and you are lying...With you Prayer Man scum a photo showing Stanton's chubby female face on Prayer Man isn't good enough...You're trolls...

> > and we know Shelley escorted Oswald out the loading dock,
> We know no such thing, He made this up out of whole cloth.

ROKC uses the little boy's method of calling all original witnesses who refute them liars...You can watch Frazier's interview where he describes seeing Oswald leave out of the loading dock to Gary Mack...He's obviously telling the truth...It makes sense because Holmes overheard Oswald say he was stopped from leaving by a cop at the front door and told to step aside...

> the real interpretation of FBI's deception is they needed to place Oswald with Shelley at the time Shelley snuck Oswald out the back but do it in a way that covers-up this clandestine escorting..
> The real interpretation is that you have an ovr-active imagination.

Coming from a guy who is trying to make Sarah Stanton on the front steps Oswald...You're just a troll who mocks correct evidence...

> > .Instead of saying CIA Shelley saw that CIA Oswald was in trouble after being stopped in the Lobby and aided him around the police cordon by escorting him out the back,
> Since Oswald was the designated fall guy, why didn't "CIA Shelly" just give "CIA designated Patsy" Oswald up? I am surprised Shelly didn''t join the made up witness death list for letting the CIA designated Patsy out of there alive.

If Oswald was out on the front steps during the shots why didn't he just tell the cops he was there and couldn't possibly have been the assassin?...Why didn't Frazier clear him?...The answer is because CIA Shelley knew that CIA Oswald had covert duties he needed to leave the Depository to carry out...You are a real moron because if Shelley gave Oswald up at plus 5 minutes after the shots he'd have to explain how he knew he was the assassin...You guys are really fucking stupid and your research level is dog shit...

> > what FBI does is place Oswald and Shelley on the front steps so they can make an excuse for any witnessings of Shelley escorting Oswald out the back...
> Or Oswald really did say he was out there with Shelley. Because he was. There is real evidence for that. There is no evidence that supports your imaginative scenarios.

Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height and has visibly obese features...Prayer Man is in the exact spot that Buell Frazier said Stanton was in at that time...You trolls just ignore this very important evidence and that asshole Gordon lets you...And you still haven't managed to show Stanton to Frazier's left in the clear Altgens image...You are a liar...Oswald can't be out there with Shelley if Carolyn Arnold saw him in the 2nd floor Lunch Room at 12:25 and Truly & Baker saw him in that same place 6 minutes later with a partly-eaten cheese sandwich on the table...The FBI teletype says Oswald was seen with a Coke at that time (Ooops!)...

> > This phony standing with Oswald out front for 10 minutes after the shots is designed as damage control in case anyone came forward and testified that Shelley escorted Oswald out the rear after he was stopped by a cop in the Lobby...
> I believe what was said was "5 or 10 minutes", but in reality would have been no more than 3 or 4 minutes based on the totality of the evidence.

The bracketing evidence is the timing of the bus/taxi encounter and Roger Craig's witnessing of the white T-shirt Oswald getting in to a station wagon...Both at plus 10 minutes...

> > You can tell this is right on the money and cracks the case in the Book Depository because the usual Prayer Man trolls totally ignore it...It is devastating to them so their only cowardly option is booby ignoring (and trolling)...
> It is indeed, devastating, Devastatingly hilarious how, with every road block you encounter, you just imagine CIA trickery and poof! No more road block.

"Road blocks"???...Like all the easily-refuted bullshit I've just run circles around?...

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> Your other hero, Roy Truly was also a hero to the FBI. Do you think that is because his bullshit 2nd floor story actually helped Oswald? Nope. It was because his bullshit 2nd floor story allowed the FBI to say that Oswald could get down in time from the 6th floor for that encounter to have happened.

Most credible researchers understand that the denial of the 2nd floor Lunch Room Encounter is just trolling bullshit invented by Greg Parker and his nut forum in order to promote their already-refuted Prayer Man theory...These uncredible scum and nincompoops have to use blocking and banning to make their bullshit work...Their little boy's attempt to say all the witnesses were lying and that an obvious pack of nuts had the real answer is laughably unbelievable...

Greg Parker

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Dec 15, 2021, 9:41:55 PM12/15/21

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On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 6:29:12 AM UTC+11, Scrum Drum wrote:

> > > The reason FBI mixed up the sequence in its claim that Oswald went outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes when Shelley was seen going up the Elm St extension at that time,

> > Seen by whom?

> It is proven that Lovelady & Shelley are the two men seen going up the Elm St extension in the Couch/Darnell film...Sandy Larsen did an excellent photo analysis proving the plaid pattern on the man going up the extension perfectly matched that of Lovelady...However Larsen realized his correct ID then disproved Prayer Man being Oswald because his identifying Calvery on the steps meant that Frazier was talking to Stanton...Larsen realized his correct identification of Lovelady & Shelley proved the timing of what is seen in Couch/Darnell and therefore excluded Prayer Man from being Oswald, so the dishonest bastard deleted his photo analysis and dropped the Prayer Man subject...Even Bart Kamp admits the two men seen walking up the extension are Lovelady & Shelley...

Oh dear.

Let's try again.

You stated: "Oswald went outside with Shelley for 5 or 10 minutes when Shelley was seen going up the Elm St extension at that time,"

I reasonably asked who the witnesses were to seeing Shelley do that and you respond with some garbage about Professor Larsen and his 13 inch head stuck inside a 9 gallon hat, doing a "photo analysis" In other words he looked at some pics. Woo hoo. Very concincing. Not.

But let me remind you again that making up claims will only get you in trouble and ruin your fine reputation for seeing things no one else can. You know - like seeing water fountains were a dumb waiter is.

> You're an idiot...We know that the cop stopped Oswald in the Lobby at around 5 plus minutes after the shots according to Holmes...Since Truly was upstairs with Baker at that time the only superintendent who could have cleared Oswald was Shelley...Shelley was CIA so he bailed fellow CIA op Oswald out of being stopped by leading him to the loading dock exit where Frazier would see Oswald exit at that time...This had to be covered-up because it showed that Shelley knew who Oswald was so the Commission buried it and didn't interview the cop at the front door...If Truly had cleared Oswald at the front door he would have spoken about it and they would have said "Manager Truly"...They left the name off because it was Shelley...And they buried this ID-ing of Oswald because it showed who Shelley was...
> > FBI knew potential witnesses might arise to this assistance by Shelley so they re-arranged the statements to confusedly place Oswald with Shelley at that time...

LOL. "We know" is Brian code for "I just made it up".

> > Or that is what Oswald was claiming and you are re-arranging and inventing scenarios without a scintila f supporting evidence.

> There's plenty of evidence for this...You're just a trolling idiot who is ignoring it as his first offering and then responding, like all trolls do, by saying I have no evidence...

So... ar you saying that everyone in big wide world has to back up what they say with evidence, except you? Wow!

Made up blather deleted bor the sake of the sanity of readers

> What you ROKC trolls do is you ignore that when we line-up Hosty's Notes with Fritz's and Bookhout's that all three possess an identical chronological order of starting at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...

Oh boy. Can you send me some of your mushrooms? I mean... words fail that you could actually believe the drivel you write. If I have some of your mushrooms, maybe I will se what you see?

> All three then go downstairs to eat lunch, and all three then go out on the front steps...The important thing is all three sets of notes start at the 2nd floor Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...You scumbags are totally dishonest by trying to ignore that and push a false, Bart Kamp-based interpretation of the Hosty Notes placing Oswald outside as Prayer Man...This is what you Prayer Man scumbags do...You ignore countering evidence and use dishonest wording to force your Prayer Man bullshit...You assholes also totally ignore my break-through interview with Sarah Stanton's grand daughter who spoke of Sarah hearing Oswald say he intended to go back in to the Break Room...You assholes just ignore evidence that you don't want to hear...

That is just not right. FFS. Sick of explaining it to you.

Repetitive nonsense snipped for my own sanity. Bugger you if you are reading his shit.

> You are a liar who is just offering Greg Parker's silly boy's version that comes right out of his ass...The real version that you ignore has Oswald telling Stanton that he was not going outside to watch the motorcade but intended to go back in to the Break Room instead...Oswald's doing that was corroborated by Carolyn Arnold who saw Oswald eating lunch at his regular seat at 12:25 just like he told Stanton...Oswald's presence in the 2nd floor Lunch Room during the shots was confirmed by Truly & Baker who saw Oswald in there 6 minutes after Carolyn Arnold...You are a liar because Campbell did not return to the Lobby until he went to the Knoll and back...The Oswald Campbell saw was the white T-shirt Oswald, which is why the FBI didn't ask Campbell to describe what his Oswald was wearing...Campbell could not have gone right back in because Mrs Reid did not see the white T-shirt Oswald until after Baker & Truly's encounter...

FFS. Read the first story published. He rushed straight back into the building. Arnold saw Oswald near the front door not the 2nd floor and your Stanon fantasies do not even bear thing about. My stomach couldn't take it.

> You are a proven liar because Holmes overheard Oswald say that he went downstairs to see what the commotion was about...Oswald said he actually went down the stairs so that means it couldn't be the front steps,

Once again for you Brian cos you are so cute when you are annoying .

Oswald goes from first floor to 2nd flor and gets a coke.

Goes back to domino room and eats lunch. Sees Jarman and Norman come back in through the window.

Goes outsight. Stands in the back corner. Can't see anything Goes back in without realizing the assassination has taken place

Is seen soon after by Campbell near storeroom.

With peple rushing back in and a commotion outside, Oswald attempts to go back out to see what is happening. He is stopped by a cop and told to wait until they are ready to vet people leaving.

When they are set up, Oswald shows his library card and Kaminsky jots down that old Elsbeth address and Truly cofirms that Oswald is alright, He works there. That was the only time Truly said those words.

This is all witnessed by Lovelady and the three amigos who are upset that Oswald is allowed to leave but not them ( See Jarman HSCA interview).

> You are a lying asshole and trouble-making ROKC troll because Zambanini has Lumpkin not going in to the Depository until 12:50 on film...What this means is you are a demented nut who ignores evidence in its face...And Zambanini is one of your own ROKC members...

I don't own ROKC. But Linda seems like a nice person.

And I am quite happy for all of this to be taking place anytime between 12:45 and 12:55. You see, Roy Truly was no dummy. The lunch break finished at 12:45 so he212:45 could not report Oswald missing before then as he had every right to go out for lunch. But company time started again at 12:45 and if he wasn't around then, he could be considered "missing".

> You ROKC scum are used to being unchallenged so you enter stupid stuff and try to get away with it...However only a moron or troll would ignore that Oswald's being cleared in the Lobby occurred at 5 to 10 minutes after the shots and Lumpkin didn't get back to the Depository until 10 minutes later...Again, if I were moderator I would move on you with this and use it to limit your posting on this subject because you are clearly not posting with good intentions and are entering stupid material...You are stupidly running roughshod across a proven time line...

Nope. Riding roughshod over a phony official story which you stupidly support.

> You are just repeating your lies...I have already proven Prayer Man is Stanton by means of the Davidson enhancement that Duncan enlarged and posted...All Duncan did was enlarge Davidson's photo enhancement to make it more visible...So Duncan has nothing to do with it...This is Davidson's discovery...He posted his metadata and posted in public that his enhancement showed Prayer Man was a woman...I have told you this repeatedly but you ignore it and enter your kiddie trolling that Duncan admitted it was a joke...That's not at all true and you are lying...With you Prayer Man scum a photo showing Stanton's chubby female face on Prayer Man isn't good enough...You're trolls...

Oh Brian. You really need to get some rest. You proved what Sergeant Schultz always sees.... "nuuussssingk!"

Repetitive NORING blather snipped.

> ROKC uses the little boy's method of calling all original witnesses who refute them liars...You can watch Frazier's interview where he describes seeing Oswald leave out of the loading dock to Gary Mack...He's obviously telling the truth...It makes sense because Holmes overheard Oswald say he was stopped from leaving by a cop at the front door and told to step aside...

That story proves he is a liar. I mean, either that story is a lie or what he told the commission is a lie. They both can't be true.

> Most credible researchers understand that the denial of the 2nd floor Lunch Room Encounter is just trolling bullshit invented by Greg Parker and his nut forum in order to promote their already-refuted Prayer Man theory...These uncredible scum and nincompoops have to use blocking and banning to make their bullshit work...Their little boy's attempt to say all the witnesses were lying and that an obvious pack of nuts had the real answer is laughably unbelievable...

Okay. So... if most credible researchers know my take on the 2nd floor lunchroom is "trolling bullshit", you can stop sweating and wasting so much time painting yourself into corners over it!

Scrum Drum

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Feb 17, 2022, 7:29:43 PM2/17/22

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On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:41:55 PM UTC-5, gregr...@outlook.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 6:29:12 AM UTC+11, Scrum Drum wrote:
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Greg Parker chimed-in on Prayer Man on ROKC...

Nowhere in that current thread has Bart Kamp's recent crazy claim that Stanton is 4 steps down on the left side of the steps been vetted...The reason for that is because Parker and the rest of the research community know Kamp's claim is crazy crap and if it ever underwent any credible examination it would quickly be shown to not be Stanton...Kamp is obviously desperately trying to find anyone other than Prayer Man to be Stanton...The reason they don't scrutinize Kamp's claim is because their own research shows Stanton was up on the landing platform...The Prayer Man assholes have seen my responses here which is why they stay quiet...They know I have them by the balls and this is conclusive proof...

Since Kamp has embarrassingly flopped and crashed on Prayer Man once again, that means he still hasn't answered my challenge to CREDIBLY show Stanton to Frazier's left in the Altgens and Wiegman photography...The person that Kamp is lying and saying is Stanton in his latest idiotic offering is not so that means he has still failed to show Stanton to Frazier's left in Altgens and Wiegman...They are not interested in the truth and use dishonest moderators to avoid answering the correct arguments and evidence...

David Healy

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nor are you "interested in the truth," kudo seeking and noise making yes hence, you are boring as shit! Don't take it too personal, we've seen your type here for nearly 25 years.....

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On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 11:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 5:06:45 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 1:12:45 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:18:16 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:

Greg Parker wrote:

" 1. No one said he was there. But they also said no stranger was there. Ergo it must have been the invisible man only capable of being seen on film. Or a 300 pound female who wore wigs for professional reasons. At least she wasn't a stranger, I suppose. Buit there is also the fact that he was late out, standing behind everyone and quickly went back in. Also note the fact that he hated being noticed - as inplied in his Youth House reports. "

GREG IS PLAYING GAMES WITH SEMANTICS HERE...NO ONE SAYING OSWALD WAS THERE COMBINED WITH THEM SAYING NO STRANGER WAS THERE DOES NOT EXCLUDE PRAYER MAN BEING STANTON...GREG IS IGNORANT...THE BEST PHOTO ANALYSIS SKILL DOES NOT PRECLUDE LIGHT HAIR APPEARING DARK IN SHADE...GREG'S IMPLYING OSWALD'S BEHAVIORAL TRAITS TO THE REASON WHY NO ONE SAW OSWALD OUT THERE IS JUST HIM MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES ALONG...WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH HOW PRAYER MAN CAME TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE...GREG CONTEMPTUOUSLY IGNORES THAT STANTON'S EXACT HEIGHT, OBESE FEATURES, AND CHUBBY FACE WERE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ON PRAYER MAN...GREG'S METHOD IS TO DOMINATE THE DISCUSSION, RIDICULE, CENSOR, AND IGNORE EVIDENCE...HE WOULD NEVER SURVIVE THE FIRST LEVEL OF REAL ACADEMIC SCRUTINY...

" 2. Why didn't he shout out to every reporter in the hallway that he was on the steps at the time of the shooting? Because like everyone else on the steps, he was not aware of what had happened and he had gone back inside before word had reached others on the steps. He tried to go back out a little later when things started sounding hysterical outside. He most likely thought that this was when it happened - thus is reply that he was inside when the shots where fired. "

GREG IS SAYING IN PUBLIC THAT OSWALD SOMEHOW MANAGED TO BE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE DEPOSITORY TO NOT KNOW KENNEDY WAS SHOT...AGAIN, GREG IS CLEARLY MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES ALONG, YET, LIKE CINQUE, HE MANAGES TO GET STRONG SUPPORT OUT IN THE RESEARCH WORLD...IN THE MEANTIME GREG IS ASKING YOU TO LET HIM INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BY IGNORING THE MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF EVIDENCE THAT PLACED OSWALD IN THE 2ND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM DURING THE SHOTS...THE REALITY IS THAT PRAYER MAN IS STANTON AND SHE DID NOT GO BACK IN RIGHT AWAY...

" 3. It's a blurry photo. Actually it's not. That's why a scan from the original would be sharp enough for identification. As it is, the resemblence to Oswald is there for anyone to see, or to "not see" - depending on your level of visual accuity and honesty.Let's face it. If thw pic was showing this person in the 6th floor window, suddenly the likeness to Lee would become apparent to these people, the pics would be splashed across every broadsheet abd TV screen, and NBC would be raided by the FBI to confiscate the films "for the sake of justice and history." "

GREG IS IGNORING, AND IS IN CONTEMPT OF THE FACT, CHRIS DAVIDSON PRODUCED A CLEAR IMAGE OF SARAH STANTON'S CHUBBY FACE IN WIEGMAN...GREG IS CORRECT THAT THE EXISTING IMAGES ARE OF GOOD ENOUGH RESOLUTION TO SOLVE THE PRAYER MAN ISSUE...ONLY HE IS LYING AND IGNORING THE ALREADY-PROVEN EVIDENCE THAT STANTON IS PRAYER MAN...GREG IGNORES THE FACT THAT FRAZIER SAID HE WAS FACING AND TALKING TO STANTON AT THE TIME OF DARNELL AND YOU CAN SEE FRAZIER FACING AND TALKING TO PRAYER MAN AT THAT EXACT TIME...THAT MAKES PRAYER MAN STANTON...YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF UNCREDIBLE INTERNET RESEARCHERS WHO INSIST ON IGNORING THIS FIRM EVIDENCE AND SIDING WITH GREG FOR PURPOSES OF SOCIALIZING AND FRIENDSHIP INSTEAD OF CREDIBLE RESEARCH...PRAYER MAN CANNOT BE SEEN TO FRAZIER'S LEFT IN ALTGENS BECAUSE SHE IS TO FRAZIER'S RIGHT IN THE PRAYER MAN SPOT...

Greg Parker

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On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:47:23 AM UTC+10, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 11:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 5:06:45 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 1:12:45 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:18:16 PM UTC-5, Scrum Drum wrote:
> Greg Parker wrote:
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> " 1. No one said he was there. But they also said no stranger was there. Ergo it must have been the invisible man only capable of being seen on film. Or a 300 pound female who wore wigs for professional reasons. At least she wasn't a stranger, I suppose. Buit there is also the fact that he was late out, standing behind everyone and quickly went back in. Also note the fact that he hated being noticed - as inplied in his Youth House reports. "
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> GREG IS PLAYING GAMES WITH SEMANTICS HERE...NO ONE SAYING OSWALD WAS THERE COMBINED WITH THEM SAYING NO STRANGER WAS THERE DOES NOT EXCLUDE PRAYER MAN BEING STANTON...GREG IS IGNORANT...THE BEST PHOTO ANALYSIS SKILL DOES NOT PRECLUDE LIGHT HAIR APPEARING DARK IN SHADE...GREG'S IMPLYING OSWALD'S BEHAVIORAL TRAITS TO THE REASON WHY NO ONE SAW OSWALD OUT THERE IS JUST HIM MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES ALONG...WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH HOW PRAYER MAN CAME TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE...GREG CONTEMPTUOUSLY IGNORES THAT STANTON'S EXACT HEIGHT, OBESE FEATURES, AND CHUBBY FACE WERE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ON PRAYER MAN...

Ho hum. From a Youth House SPECIAL BEHAVIOR REPORT. What was one of his "special" behaviors? "Usually on the floor he can be found sitting in the corner by the window..." https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95619#relPageId=224 Where was he again on Nov 22 , 1963? Exhibiting one of his "special" behaviors when in a crowd... alone in a corner in front of a panel of glass aka a window.

GREG'S METHOD IS TO DOMINATE THE DISCUSSION,

Says the man who posts 5,000 word salads in every nook and cranny of the web -- until he gets banned for his unacademic presentation of bluster, wet dreams and rants as evidence. Well, it iIS evidence - just not of want he tries to gaslight everyone into thinking it is eveidence of. Do I really need to spell out what your posts are really evidence of? As far as height goes, the figure is approximately 5' 9" according everyone who has neasured it - except you.

> RIDICULE, CENSOR, AND IGNORE EVIDENCE...

Lampooning is all your boorish behavior deserves. I have never censored anyone, including you. I have banned you, but only after giving you the opportunity to behave like a human being. You failed.

> HE WOULD NEVER SURVIVE THE FIRST LEVEL OF REAL ACADEMIC SCRUTINY...

LOL. Okay Professor. Whatever you say.

> " 2. Why didn't he shout out to every reporter in the hallway that he was on the steps at the time of the shooting? Because like everyone else on the steps, he was not aware of what had happened and he had gone back inside before word had reached others on the steps. He tried to go back out a little later when things started sounding hysterical outside. He most likely thought that this was when it happened - thus is reply that he was inside when the shots where fired. "
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> GREG IS SAYING IN PUBLIC THAT OSWALD

Yeah, some "public" you've got here, Brian., 18 views and most of those would be by you.

> SOMEHOW MANAGED TO BE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE DEPOSITORY TO NOT KNOW KENNEDY WAS SHOT...

Talk about semantics. Of course EVENTUALLY everyone knew. But initially they all thought it was a motorbike backfiring. Those on the steps didn't know until told by those rushing back inside from the street. Oswald had already gone back insde by them himself. When people started rushing back in and there was a lot of screaming and yelling outside is when he thought something happening. Thus he thought he was inside at the time of the shots. Not rocket science.

> AGAIN, GREG IS CLEARLY MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES ALONG,

Classic psychological projection. Few put as much deep diving and thinking into this pile of garbage left by the authorities than I do.

Here is another of his "special" behaviors noted in Youth House which is germane to his interactions with reporters and his interrogators.... "he does not enncourage conversation. npor dores he participate in conversation. He does not communicate with his supervisors other than when he is asked A DIRECT QUESTION AND HIS ANSWER IS VERY TERSE."

> YET, LIKE CINQUE, HE MANAGES TO GET STRONG SUPPORT

Cinque, like you, only has support from those I wouldn't touch with a barge pole - and neither of you have widespread support. You've managed to gasliight a couple of simple-minded buffoons and CInque has the support of the White Hood brigade and Tinfoil Hat brigades.

OUT IN THE RESEARCH WORLD...IN THE MEANTIME GREG IS ASKING YOU TO LET HIM INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BY IGNORING THE MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF EVIDENCE THAT PLACED OSWALD IN THE 2ND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM DURING THE SHOTS...THE REALITY IS THAT PRAYER MAN IS STANTON AND SHE DID NOT GO BACK IN RIGHT AWAY...

LOL. Baker and Truly's say so. That's it, That's all there is.

> " 3. It's a blurry photo. Actually it's not. That's why a scan from the original would be sharp enough for identification. As it is, the resemblence to Oswald is there for anyone to see, or to "not see" - depending on your level of visual accuity and honesty.Let's face it. If thw pic was showing this person in the 6th floor window, suddenly the likeness to Lee would become apparent to these people, the pics would be splashed across every broadsheet abd TV screen, and NBC would be raided by the FBI to confiscate the films "for the sake of justice and history." "
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> GREG IS IGNORING, AND IS IN CONTEMPT OF THE FACT, CHRIS DAVIDSON PRODUCED A CLEAR IMAGE OF SARAH STANTON'S CHUBBY FACE IN WIEGMAN...

Davidson produced a mess that looks nothinhg like Stanton except in your fevered imagination. Not only bnot like Stanton, it does not even look human. Something from a Z grade horror movie from the 50s maybe.

GREG IS CORRECT THAT THE EXISTING IMAGES ARE OF GOOD ENOUGH RESOLUTION TO SOLVE THE PRAYER MAN ISSUE...ONLY HE IS LYING AND IGNORING THE ALREADY-PROVEN EVIDENCE THAT STANTON IS PRAYER MAN...GREG IGNORES THE FACT THAT FRAZIER SAID HE WAS FACING AND TALKING TO STANTON AT THE TIME OF DARNELL AND YOU CAN SEE FRAZIER FACING AND TALKING TO PRAYER MAN AT THAT EXACT TIME...THAT MAKES PRAYER MAN STANTON...YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF UNCREDIBLE INTERNET RESEARCHERS WHO INSIST ON IGNORING THIS FIRM EVIDENCE AND SIDING WITH GREG FOR PURPOSES OF SOCIALIZING AND FRIENDSHIP INSTEAD OF CREDIBLE RESEARCH...PRAYER MAN CANNOT BE SEEN TO FRAZIER'S LEFT IN ALTGENS BECAUSE SHE IS TO FRAZIER'S RIGHT IN THE PRAYER MAN SPOT...

Bart has already responded to this shit on numerous occasions.

Scrum Drum

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On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-4, gparker...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:47:23 AM UTC+10, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 11:10:55 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:

Because there is no credible moderation oversight on the JFK research internet Greg gets away with ignoring that Prayer Man has Sarah Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height, obese arm, hand, and hips, as well as Stanton's face as seen in Davidson...Greg uses his completely fabricated and irrelevant pseudo-references to Oswald's behavior pattern of sneaking in behind people to assert Prayer Man is Oswald...If we were to use behavioral traits to explain Prayer Man's movements it would be Stanton standing in a hidden place due to her embarrassment over her obesity...

Greg then offers yet another round of the cyber-harassment and bullying his website specializes in when they can't come up with credible answers to your correct evidence...When they can't offer any detailed specifics to your correct evidence they name-call it "word salad"...Truth is Greg is doing that because he can't directly answer the correct information contained in it...This would not be allowed on a credibly-moderated JFK internet...

Greg is lying when he says Prayer Man is 5 foot 9, just like he is lying when he says Oswald's shadow is seen on the glass partition...In Darnell, Prayer Man clearly comes up to Frazier's chin...Since a human head is 8 inches from chin to the top of the head that means Prayer Man is provably Sarah Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height...What credible moderation would do is judge Parker on his lie and make him pay for it...Refuse to admit provable evidence and you lose your right to post (troll)...Not only is Prayer Man Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height but she also possesses Stanton's obese forearm and mitt-like hand that are visible to the naked eye in Darnell...Greg is doing silly denial here and he should not be allowed to do that amongst serious adult researchers...

Again, Greg calls my evidence-based serious posts "boorish" while ignoring the vulgar troll farm he owns and encourages...What Greg is really saying is he ridicules serious evidence he knows he can't answer and is not in the same league as serious researchers...This would not be allowed if the present JFK internet researchers were held to fair, serious moderation where they were made to answer for their research offenses and ignoring of correct evidence...

Greg Parker and ROKC are getting away with ignoring and not answering the fact that Gloria Calvery is seen on the steps in Darnell...That means Calvery had shouted "The president has been shot" 10 seconds prior to the scene seen in Darnell...Therefore Greg is getting away with not answering the fact that Prayer Man heard Calvery shout this and was informed of the president being shot before going back in...Because the current gate-keepers in control of the main Kennedy sites have censored and banned all those who try to force Parker to answer this it has not been established as part of the known evidence that the Prayer Man people would be forced to acknowledge...Greg's silly claim that Prayer Man is Oswald, and he slipped back inside before becoming aware that the president had been shot, is easily disproven just by acknowledging the known-evidence on the front steps in Darnell...Because the Prayer Man people enjoy special privileges of having their adversaries censored and removed they have still not been made to answer this and just heckle and ignore it when shown...What you see in Darnell is Sarah Stanton staring at Frazier after informing him "I think she said the president has been shot"...Frazier has made this clear in many statements...Statements that are all dishonestly ignored by the Prayer Man people and their favoring moderators...This would not happen on a credibly-moderated JFK internet where trolls and evidence-scofflaws were given their due...By the way, Prayer Man (Stanton) stayed outside in that spot for minutes until Frazier returned from his run up the Elm St extension...

Both DiEugenio and Palamara made public statements saying Prayer Man was Stanton (due to my evidence)...Lauren Johnson made the cowardly move of admitting I was correct in a Private Message but then banned me anyway...The only reason the Prayer Man theory is not formally admitted to be Stanton is because of the ego death-grip Kennedy websites are under from the main alpha wolves and gate-keepers...They don't want to admit someone they ridiculed and banned disproved them...That and the fact there is no credible over-arching moderation or peer review...When you out-argue them a crooked moderator switches the subject to false rules violations and gets rid of you...

The witnesses to Oswald being in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room are Stanton, Carolyn Arnold, Baker & Truly, Dougherty, Mrs Reid, and Holmes...You are quite aware of this Greg but you choose to mislead the research community and world with your lies and denial...When asked to answer for Mrs Garner and Bonnie Ray Williams witnessing Baker & Truly emerging in sync with the Encounter you lie and ignore correct evidence...You never honestly answered for the fact your lie that it was Lumpkin was disproven by Zambanini having film of Lumpkin not going in to the Depository until 12:50 (Long after Garner's witnessing)...Lumpkin also wore a Fedora - which means the white motorcycle helmet seen by Williams had to be Baker's...You would not be allowed to do that on a credibly-overseen JFK internet...You enjoy a recklessly indifferent research community who ignore your serious violations and prefer a friendship society that exploits unfair banning and censorship to achieve its nefarious quorum at the expense of credible research...

You're just in contemptuous denial that Davidson shows the clearly-seen chubby face of Sarah Stanton...You are not a credible researcher Greg...A credible researcher would admit that Davidson shows more than enough proof that Prayer Man is Stanton and that it is impossible to achieve Prayer Man being Oswald from the clear proof of Davidson...You have already been told that Bart Kamp's lies would be disproven once the original Wiegman frame produced the exact same image as that seen in Davidson...And once the original film is obtained it will do exactly that and therefore prove Davidson is real and credible...The reason it will do that is because Davidson is a valid replica of what exists in the original Wiegman frame and does show Sarah Stanton's face on Prayer Man...Even the buttons that go from Prayer Man's left collar down to her knees is evidence alone that Prayer Man isn't Oswald...You trollish researchers have had way too much influence and controlled the JFK internet for far too long...You have destroyed too many skilled researchers and entered too much garbage research against skilled evidence...By using corrupted moderators you are forcing the research world to watch your floating of long-disproven theories...And establishment of trollish personalities who may very well be Sunstein agents as the only accepted voices...

Scrum Drum

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On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 11:19:23 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 11:10:42 PM UTC-4, gparker...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 1:18:57 AM UTC+10, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:51:06 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:

Bart Kamp wrote:

" And he will not nor will he ever.

Just endlessly repeating the same old boring and above all non existent proof he drags past just one more time

We sure as fuck do not want a demented loser like you amongst us
The EF think you are a shit poster and they are right!
At MacRae you lasted 48 hrs earlier this year. You have been banned countless times already.

And that fckn dump you reside at now most ppl cannot give a flying fuck to be part of since it is filled with delusional liars and you seem to fit in just real nice. You belong there!

You are done you boring twit. "

Kamp is lying here...Everything I post comes directly from the evidence and is visible in the photography or spoken record...Which is why dishonest Kamp refuses to directly answer it because he knows he can't...

The stumbling Kamp did try to answer it directly twice in the last 4 years...Both times he lied and placed Stanton down the steps...Once on the west side of the steps 3 steps down and just recently on the east side of the steps 3 steps down...Kamp is desperately picking random women with light-colored hair so he can find a place for Stanton other than the Prayer Man spot...There is not one person who has endorsed the obvious false positions Kamp has placed Stanton in out on the JFK internet...I have never seen one person post that Kamp has found Stanton down the steps...The reason for that is because they know he is a nut and is lying...Not only did Kamp's own research already establish that Stanton was up top on the landing platform, but no one asked him why he changed his choice from 3 steps down on the west side of the steps to 3 steps down on the east side of the steps?...Obviously the nut Kamp is just dart-throwing and picking any random light-haired woman he thinks he can get away with...This is a good example of how the hacks and kooks at ROKC developed the Prayer Man theory to begin with...All overseen by Greg Parker who dishonestly refuses to admit he was busted by myself lying about Lumpkin being the cop Mrs Garner saw Truly with...Greg is also just making up any crazy shit he thinks he can get away with...He still hasn't admitted he was wrong about Lumpkin - as proven by Zambanini, who showed Lumpkin didn't enter the Depository until 12:50 and was wearing a plain clothes suit and fedora...Greg ran when I confronted him with that and hasn't commented since...He's not very honest - but hey - he belongs to a group of scumbags who ban when you nail them and don't have to answer...Civil dishonest banners...

What you are seeing here is the gang of Clockwork Orange bullies that control the Prayer Man issue and have hijacked the JFK research internet and how they operate...The 3 people who banned me - Lauren Johnson, James Gordon, and Duncan MacRae are either incompetents who were guarding their social media friends or nuts like Duncan...None of them are fit to wipe my ass research-wise and are just using cowardly banning to avoid admitting somebody they ridiculed turned around and handed them their asses on the Prayer Man subject...They are dishonest people who abuse their power and lie as to the reason they banned you...

No one posts that Prayer Man is Oswald any more on the EF except for Gordon's evidence-ignoring favorite Larsen...I am the reason for that even if they are too dishonest to admit it and hide behind that tyrant Gordon's censorship...

Still waiting for Kamp to show Stanton to Frazier's left in Altgens...

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It costs only $70/month to run the thing. That's nothing to a genius like you. You could become King of the Education Forum.

Scrum Drum

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On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:41:43 PM UTC-4, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 1:01:40 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:33:30 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:

If we are really lucky Gordon will lose the forum...

robert johnson

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Why chicken out now Doyle, now is your chance! Don't just talk, make a move!

Sky Throne 19efppp

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I think Brian enjoys his role as a whiny bitch.

Gil Jesus

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:18:04 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:

> Why chicken out now Doyle, now is your chance! Don't just talk, make a move!

Wouldn't that be something. Brian Doyle as administrator of the Education Forum ? Talk about a change of fortune.
The Ed Forum vs. ROKC ?
Doyle's forum vs. Parker's ?
Doyle cleaning house at the Ed Forum ?
Would the forum gods be so kind as to allow Doyle his long-awaited revenge at last ?
Will he continue to curse the darkness, or will he light a light ?
This would be better than the feature event at Wrestlemania. LOL.
And it's only going to cost Brian $ 70 a month ?
I'd go for it, but I know he won't.

Scrum Drum

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 6:55:41 AM UTC-4, gjjma...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:18:04 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:

> I'd go for it, but I know he won't.

Unlike Gordon I know my limitations...Right now the EF is moderated by balancing Lone Nutter liars and Greg Parker proxies with CT-ers...If you have the skill to actually prove something one way or the other it is treated like a site offense because Gordon is too dumb to figure out evidence...You are called "insulting" or "doesn't play well with others" because you don't tolerate the wrong claims of others like Gordon stupidly does...This is really the best and brightest vs the limiting bottle neck of Gordon's dull brow...

It is frustrating to be treated like this outsider figure when all I want to do is post discoveries that have earned their right ti be seen by the Peer Review Gordon fails to practice...My research is not a joke...It is serious and seriously affects the body of knowledge of the assassination, which is why Gordon's disallowing it is a crime...

robert johnson

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Your evidence is complete and utter make believe trash, and when it is pointed out how trashy it actually is you bring in two Oswalds for which there is nothing to support that either.
Then you lie, not just lie but really LIE!
Which in research terms is inexcusable.
You have disqualified yourself countless times.
You are nothing but talk.
You belong here Brian.

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Aug 2, 2022, 3:02:47 PM8/2/22

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No answer needed to give as you are the main culprit for your terrible conduct. Simple!

The evidence has been presented in a clear and concise manner on various web platforms. This may be way above your pay grade but it is all there.
Your 'evidence' which are nothing else than beliefs are nowhere to be found unless one has to commit to your baseless online rants, and who would want to do that. Nor do you present evidence like everyone else would and should!
The USSS agent obscures the eastern part of the stairs and that is where Stanton stood.
You are not very good at this at all, actually you suck at it.

Stick to the correct evidence Doyle not your worthless beliefs.

Scrum Drum

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BART CAN'T ANSWER ME BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME ALL TOO OBVIOUS HE IS LYING AND THEREFORE LOSING...BART HAS BEEN CONTEMPTUOUSLY IGNORING/DENYING THE PROVABLE EVIDENCE THAT PRAYER MAN IS STANTON EVER SINCE I DISCOVERED IT...

>
> Speaking of identities, why is Richard Gilbride doing your work for you? About two years ago I happen to witness this at the JFKAssassinationforum where his character of sentencing gave it away, that you had given him your login details to let him post as you were way way wayyyyyy out of your league, it was a dead give away. And two or so weeks ago when Greg Parker nullified you to ashes he showed his face again(!) you were outclassed and outargued and needed a little bump of some sort so you called in the guy who had his crappy book printed (one copy of it to be exact) to help you out. You are nothing but a terrible joke Doyle.

THIS COMING FROM A TROLL WHO HAS TWICE NOW RAN FROM THE EVIDENCE IN PUBLIC ON THIS PAGE AND TRIES TO COMPENSATE WITH TRASH TALK...THAT EVIDENCE ABOVE THAT YOU COULDN'T ANSWER IN PUBLIC PROVES WHY PRAYER MAN IS STANTON...

>
> You were banned for the right reasons at Amazon, JFKAssassinationforum (how many times actually? 6X at least no?), ROKC (perhaps I'll join!) and Deep Politics (a true shithole, but you still got the axe). Now then did Burnham throw you out or did the forum just ceased to exist before they could do it. Enlighten me Brian!

DUNCAN BANNED ME SAYING IT WAS A BAN-ABLE OFFENSE TO CLAIM DAVIDSON SAID PRAYER MAN WAS A WOMAN VS DAVIDSON SAYING PRAYER MAN 'LOOKED LIKE' A WOMAN...HE THEN OFFERED TO LET ME BACK ON FOR $20...DUNCAN IS OBVIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL...HE MODERATES AS IF HE WAS SERIOUS BUT THEN FAVORS OBVIOUS TROLLS (LIKE YOURSELF)...HE ALSO DELETES THREADS CONTAINING IMPORTANT MATERIAL OUT OF SPITE...DUNCAN IS MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OFFER THE PUBLIC A WEBSITE...HIS FORUM IS A TROLL FORUM...BY THE WAY, DAVIDSON DID SAY HE THOUGHT HIS ENHANCEMENT SHOWED A WOMAN...FUNNY HOW HE DISHONESTLY DOESN'T MENTION THAT IN THE CURRENT ROBBIE ROBERTSON PRAYER MAN THREAD ON THAT UNCREDIBLE FORUM...

>
> The 'evidence' you present is nothing but worthless observations. No sources of documentation or enlarged images just pure inane observations. How comes CTers are allowed to get away with that? A newspaper would at east provide two sources and I do not think that observations, which are shit btw, of a small area of 16mm film are classed as proof when no one else 'sees' this crap. Straight into the trash! Pure conspiracy bullshit like Harvey & Lee is. I am of the opinion that Graves wound you up and Larsen, well he has been more wrong than right and that's a fact.
>

YOU'RE JUST TRASH-TALKING AGAIN...THIS WAS ALL EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED ON VARIOUS SITES INCLUDING DUNCAN'S NUT HOUSE, THE EDUCATION FORUM, AS WELL AS MY PRAYER WOMAN FACEBOOK PAGE...BECAUSE THIS SUBJECT IS FALSELY MODERATED WE CAN'T ASK THOSE WHO PRODUCED THIS EVIDENCE TO POST IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS A BIASED MODERATOR FIXING THINGS IN THE PRAYER MAN GROUP'S DIRECTION...IF THIS SUBJECT WASN'T HIJACKED AND DISHONESTLY CONTROLLED WE COULD ASK GRAVES AND LARSEN TO CONFIRM THEIR FINDING OF CALVERY ON THE STEPS...IT IS QUITE EASILY SEEN FOR PERSONS WHO PRACTICE REAL, CREDIBLE RESEARCH AND NOT TROLLISH TRASH-TALKERS LIKE YOURSELF WHO DENY VISIBLE EVIDENCE RIGHT IN ITS FACE...WHAT I SAID IS PROVABLY TRUE AND IT FORCES THE TIMING SEEN IN DARNELL TO BE THE EXACT TIME THAT FRAZIER SAID HE WAS STARING IN SHOCK AT SARAH FOR THE LONGEST TIME...TRYING TO DENY THE OBVIOUS FEMALENESS OF DAVIDSON'S IMAGE IS ALSO SILLY...BUT THAT IS WHAT PASSES FOR RIGOR ON JAMES GORDON'S EDUCATION FORUM BULLY PIT...

> Frazier did not say this nor is there a timing element attached to it, complete fabrication. How many you have done Brian? I know John Iacoletti did a masterful job logging all your lies 2 years ago, what was the count? 700? You have quite a way ahead of you to match D Trump (39K), but I am confident you will reach that number at some point, just keep at it. No one will take you seriously any more. The net is filled with your lies and bs innuendo. You are done, fun part of it is you do not geddit, geddit?

JOHN IACOLETTI IS AN ANKLE-BITING NAY-SAYER TROLL...YOU WON'T SEE HIM ON ANY SERIOUS BOARD...HE FAVORS DUNCAN'S NUT HOUSE BECAUSE DUNCAN USES HIM AS A JUNKYARD WATCH DOG TROLL TO KEEP THE SITE AT THE TROLLING LEVEL HE LIKES...IACOLETTI DOESN'T DARE DO HIS BULLSHIT ON THE EF BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE'D BE LEGITIMATELY BANNED...YOU AREN'T VERY BRIGHT BECAUSE YOUR DUMB-DOWN DENIAL ABOUT THERE BEING NO TIMING IS STUPID...THERE HAD TO BE TIMING FOR CALVERY'S TRIP TO THE STEPS BECAUSE THERE COULDN'T NOT BE...THAT'S A DUMB ARGUMENT...ALL YOU ARE DOING IS SHOWING US THE PRAYER MAN GROUP'S MODUS OPERANDI OF TROLLING/DENYING EVIDENCE THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T ANSWER...WHEN THE PRAYER MAN PEOPLE ARE CAUGHT BY EVIDENCE THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T ANSWER THEY RESORT TO TRASH-TALKING AND DENYING THE EVIDENCE ALL TOGETHER...FRAZIER DID SAY IT...HE SAID, IN SEVERAL INTERVIEWS AND RECORDED STATEMENTS, THAT A WOMAN CAME RUNNING TO THE STEPS SHOUTING IN A LOW VOICE AND HE COULDN'T HEAR HER...FRAZIER TURNED TOWARDS STANTON WITH A PUZZLED LOOK ON HIS FACE AND STANTON RESPONDED "I THINK SHE SAID THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SHOT"...BECAUSE YOU ARE A GUTTER TROLL OF THE BART KAMP VARIETY YOU ARE TRYING TO WORM OUT OF ANSWERING THIS EVIDENCE BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT REFUTES PRAYER MAN AS OSWALD...IT IS KIND OF STUPID TO DENY CALVERY'S PLAID SKIRT AND SHORT-LENGTH SWEATER AS SEEN IN DARNELL...WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE?...BART KAMP OR YOUR OWN LYING EYES?... ALSO I RECENTLY GOT FRAZIER TO SAY ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE THAT IF OSWALD WAS OUT THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM ON THE STEPS HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO...FRAZIER SAID IT ANGRILY BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED OF BEING ACCUSED OF LYING BY PESKY IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF AND BART KAMP...DEBRA CONWAY TOLD ME SHE CALLED FRAZIER AND HE TOLD HER PRAYER MAN WAS STANTON...

>
> Shelley spoke to Calvery AFTER they left the steps and it is not filmed by anyone. According to Shelley's statement. Funny how you always keep that away from everyone.

SHELLEY SPOKE TO KAREN HICKS IN HER BLACK SKIRT AND WHITE BLOUSE AT THE CONCRETE ISLAND AS SEEN IN COUCH/DARNELL...HICKS WAS STANDING WITH WESTBROOK, CALVERY, AND REED IN THE MOTORCADE SPECTATORS AND FOLLOWED THEM TO THE STEPS...THIS HAS TO BE TRUE BECAUSE WE HAVE PROVEN CALVERY IS GOING UP THE FRONT STEPS IN DARNELL AND IS THEREFORE VISIBLY EXHIBITING THE TIMING FOR TALKING TO LOVELADY & SHELLEY AT THE BASE OF THE STEPS...I BELIEVE IT WAS FRAZIER WHO SAID CALVERY SPOKE TO LOVELADY & SHELLEY AT THE BASE OF THE STEPS...ANY PERSON WHO ISN'T TROLLING CAN SEE DARNELL SHOWS THE PERFECT SPACING AND TIMING FOR LOVELADY & SHELLEY SPEAKING TO CALVERY AT THE BASE OF THE STEPS AND THEN HEADING UP THE EXTENSION, WHILE CALVERY THEN CLIMBS THE STEPS...IT IS SHOWN RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU IN DARNELL AND THEREFORE CONFIRMS WHAT I AM WRITING HERE...THAT'S WHY YOU AND YOUR BART KAMP DENIAL METHOD AREN'T TOO BRIGHT BECAUSE WHAT IS SEEN IN DARNELL PROVES I AM RIGHT...CALVERY IS CLIMBING THE STEPS WITH CAROL REED AND THEREFORE FORCING THE NEED TO HONESTLY ADMIT THE TIMING THAT REQUIRES...IF YOU PRACTICED SOUND ANALYSIS INSTEAD OF BART KAMP-LIKE TROLLING YOU WOULD ADMIT THAT THE JUNCTURE SEEN IN DARNELL IS THE EXACT MOMENT THAT FRAZIER SAID HE WAS "STARING IN SHOCK AT SARAH FOR THE LONGEST TIME"...ANY LOOK AT DARNELL SHOWS FRAZIER LOCKED-ON TO PRAYER MAN AND STARING AT HER...YOU ARE JUST IN OUT-RIGHT CONTEMPTUOUS DENIAL IF YOU DENY THAT DAVIDSON SHOWED PRAYER MAN HAD A FEMALE FACE AND THAT FACE IS STANTON'S...PLUS YOU TRY TO TROLLISHLY IGNORE THAT SARAH HERSELF SAID SHE COULDN'T SEE THE LIMOUSINE AT THE TIME OF THE SHOTS...DARNELL IS THE EXACT TIME OF THE SHOTS AND THE WEST WALL OF THE PORTAL IS BLOCKING PRAYER MAN'S VIEW OF THE LIMO...YOU CAN'T IGNORE FIRM EVIDENCE, ANSWER IT WITH TROLLISH TRASH-TALK, AND STILL BE CREDIBLE...PRAYER MAN IS ALSO STANTON'S EXACT 5 FOOT 4 HEIGHT AND EXHIBITS SARAH STANTON'S OBESE FOREARM, HAND, AND HIPS...

YOU'RE A NAY-SAYING EVIDENCE DENIER AND I AM NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO YOUR TAUNTING TROLLING POSTS...JAMES GORDON HAS CRIMINALLY DENIED THIS EVIDENCE ITS EARNED PLACE AND THAT ROTTEN, STUPID BASTARD IS GOING TO MEET A BIGGER, BETTER MODERATOR FURTHER DOWN THE KARMA ROAD THAT HE ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GO AWAY WITH HIS COWARDLY MODERATOR BUTTON...

robert johnson

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Love the caps Doyle, true sign of being such an unhinged idiot. Your make believe evidence just simply doesn't wash.
Nor did it ever before.
You haven't proven anything, well one thing for sure.
THAT YOU ARE AN UNHINGED DIRT TROLL!

Scrum Drum

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On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 12:44:13 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 5:50:55 AM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 10:53:17 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:

Bart Kamp wrote:

" Doyle if you have won the debate then this would be a cakewalk to point out!

Who is running now you lying bitch. "

No Bart...If Prayer Man had any credibility DiEugenio would have included it in his recent Oliver Stone documentary...All of us know the reason DiEugenio left it completely out with no mention is because he knew it was complete bullshit that he didn't want making a shit stain on his production...The people who say we need a better scan are liars who are intentionally ignoring my proof...

Trolling does not equal a credible answer for running in public from showing Altgens-6 and the Z255 Wiegman frame that clearly show Stanton is not to Frazier's left...Bart Kamp is well capable of showing the best quality close-up of the doorway in Altgens on ROKC...In that shot you can see Lovelady & Shelley with Pauline Sanders peering between their shoulders...Molina is the man with his hands covering his eyes from the sun to their left...Any fool can see Stanton is not there on the landing platform...Wiegman Z255 is a little rough in resolution and clearness but Davidson could apply his enhancement process to it and we would see there is an easily-seen giant gap with nobody in it between Frazier and Lovelady in that shot proving beyond a doubt that Stanton is not to Frazier's left at the exact time of Altgens-6...This, and the fact Davidson brought out a female face on Prayer Man, proves beyond a doubt that Prayer Man is Stanton...The manners queen Gordon is conducting a liar's pageant over on the Education Forum by using banning and defamation as excuses to censor this conclusive argument...I guess the rule over there is when you can't win an argument by your honest wit and research skill win it British style by bullying and crookery...

You juvenile delinquents over on ROKC have held up the entire research world and made ignoring of evidence the accepted practice of JFK research, just like Bush made torture the accepted practice of the US government, all so you could maintain your retarded trying to force images to look like Oswald level of research as the only accepted level of peer review...You assholes have the ability to discredit that stupid motherfucker Gordon in your hands by simply admitting that I've proven my case but instead you choose to destroy the entire credibility of the JFK research community by hijacking it on the internet and forcing your childish denial just so you can save yourselves the embarrassment of admitting you backed an idiotic theory and I dispatched it single-handedly...

Kamp's rabid trolling is above the simple reality, that he refuses to show the images of, and intelligently analyze them because he himself is well aware that they refute the Oswald as Prayer Man theory and finally show who is credible in this God-forsaken Satanic mess of a research community...Empirical research demands are granted to everybody - except the guy who disproves the Prayer Man theory and DiEugenio...Then foul dishonesty, mobbism, group-fucking, and aimed corruption are OK simply because a bozo funds thief ignoramus of an administrator says so and the Prayer Man crooks look the other way...Satan awaits James Gordon...

I, sir, feast on French royal gilded cake eaten off of Marie Antoinette's firm lifted tits...Even if I do it ragged clothed, ignored, and in absentia in a dirty British scumbag's intellectual dungeon while Court fops tickle the balls of the idiot king with whispers of Oswald as Prayer Man above...

Greg Parker

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Aug 25, 2022, 8:44:48 PM8/25/22

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Dickie G! What have you done to Doyle? By the power of the Almighty Shemp, I compel thee to return to the Pits from whence ye came and leave this earthly vessel known as Brian!

Brian, I know you are still in there. We are going to save you, buddy.

Dickie G! I compel thee with the power of this Holy Paint - the lovely pastel, Dead Salmon, to leave Brian and never return!

DICKIE G! BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME BY THE HOLY STOOGES, I COMPEL THEE! AND AS SHEMP SAID UNTO MOE "THERE'S A THOUSAND REASONS WHY I SHOULDN"T DRINK, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ONE RIGHT NOW." SO I SAY UNTO THEE. THERE ARE A THOUSAND PILES OF SHIT YOU COULD INHABIT, BUT BRIAN'S IS ESPECIALLY PUNGENT. SO LEAVE THAT SHIT ALONE!

robert johnson

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Aug 26, 2022, 2:23:08 AM8/26/22

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Yeah Richard Gilbride stop trying to be Doyle, this is so pathetically obvious.
Doyle you are a first rate loser.

Scrum Drum

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Aug 26, 2022, 12:19:13 PM8/26/22

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The way Greg admits defeat is by trolling...

Scrum Drum

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Aug 26, 2022, 2:56:00 PM8/26/22

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On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:44:48 PM UTC-4, clarence...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 2:51:52 AM UTC+10, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:

Kamp Wrote:

" The fuckwit: "The overly narrow wrist is actually a sign that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton because the narrowing that Kamp admits he detects is actually caused by Sarah's purse jutting in front of her wrist while she holds it with two hands..."

Buhahahahahaha, is that as good as the film bs comment or does this top all his zombie lies?
The purse came to the rescue.
Well at least Gilbride is not writing this, altho he was yesterday,
Pathetic really. The whole thing from those two. "

Kamp failed to answer the correct point about the wrist narrowing too much for human anatomy...That proves it has to be a purse...I don't know what Kamp is talking about with Gilbride...I haven't spoken to Rich in a couple of weeks...Here is Sarah's purse that Wanda said she thinks might be the purse in Darnell:

https://www.facebook.com/1648957192079151/photos/a.1648963242078546/1916885205286347/

Kamp was asked to post the best image of a close-up of the front steps in Altgens-6...That image would show Lovelady, Sanders, Shelley, and Molina on the landing platform and no Stanton...Kamp was also asked to post the best image of Wiegman Z255...That image would show a wide, unoccupied gap between Frazier and Lovelady - conclusively proving that Stanton was not to Frazier's left at the time of the shots...It is obvious that the reason Kamp refuses to post those two images is because he knows it proves Prayer Man is Stanton...Gordon too...

Credible peer review and moderation, unlike what we have now on the Kennedy internet, would sort this out quickly and muzzle the kooks and trolls...

robert johnson

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Aug 26, 2022, 3:26:40 PM8/26/22

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By the looks of it Kamp does not have to show you anything.
He has destroyed you with real evidence over and over again.
You on the other hand are just trolling with non realistic evidence. Made up in your own mind, not a doc in sight. Not a picture shared as per illustration with markings. You only produce hot puke smelling air.

Show them tits Doyle.

Scrum Drum

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Aug 26, 2022, 3:36:37 PM8/26/22

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Is there any way to ban this evidence-avoiding, nay-saying, attention-seeking, ankle-biting troll?...

Scrum Drum

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Aug 26, 2022, 3:42:06 PM8/26/22

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On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:56:00 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:44:48 PM UTC-4, clarence...@gmail.com wrote:

When Kamp failed to post or respectfully discuss the Altgens and Wiegman images that showed Stanton was not to Frazier's left he forfeited his Oswald as Prayer Man claim...

The Education Forum might want to use cowardly banning to continue wishing Stanton to become Oswald, but out in the real credible debate world, that isn't protected by a dirty manners queen who bans those with the correct evidence, Prayer Man has already been proven to be Stanton...

robert johnson

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Aug 26, 2022, 3:58:36 PM8/26/22

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Again I implore you to focus on just one thing and one thing only and that is to
Show us Sarah Stantom's tits.

Scrum Drum

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Aug 27, 2022, 12:16:04 PM8/27/22

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On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:56:00 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:

Bart Kamp is lying when he says the female face in Davidson and buttons are due to film to video transfer artifacts...

This could easily be proven by obtaining the original Wiegman and Darnell films and doing high tech digital scanning...

If the original NBC newsreel films were professionally scanned and examined Kamp would be proven to be lying because both the female face on Prayer Man and buttons would be proven to be firmly-existing features in both original celluloids...

That professional scanning and technical photo analysis would show Stanton's face in Wiegman and the buttons in Darnell to be firmly visible on the original films and therefore not be Kamp's lie that they are due to film to video transfer artifacts...

Kamp is just making up that lie because he doesn't want to admit both the female face in Wiegman and buttons in Darnell prove Prayer Man isn't Oswald...Kamp's Winged Monkey squadron of trolls help him get away with that lie...

This argument needs to be shown on the Education Forum to show those who are ignoring the evidence that their attempts to make Prayer Man Oswald have been refuted...

James Gordon is a criminal, as are the dishonest members of that forum, because he is deliberately keeping correct evidence from his website in order to keep a theory he has a personal bias towards alive...

Gordon is a criminal who gas-lights good researchers and falsely accuses them of site rules violations in order to keep correct evidence that solves an important research issue from his board...

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robert johnson

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Aug 28, 2022, 4:14:28 AM8/28/22

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YOU CLAIM TO SEE WHAT NO OTHER PERSON CLAIMS TO SEE.
But first we need to get the original to see what you are seeing?
How does this nutty attitude work out for you?
You have any idea how dumb and delusional you sound?

It is called being finished off you have nothing left!

Scrum Drum

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Aug 28, 2022, 8:15:35 AM8/28/22

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On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 12:16:04 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:56:00 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:

The Bookhout report that the notorious ROKC troll "Vinny" posted tells you the truth about what Oswald said at the 3PM interrogation...

The reason it starts at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots is because it omits Oswald telling them he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...

Sean Murphy and Greg Parker achieve their deception by not telling you Sarah Stanton heard Oswald say he intended to go back in to the Break Room after Stanton caught Oswald hiding on the 2nd Floor staircase landing waiting for the ladies to leave the Lunch Room...That "Break Room" was the 2nd Floor Lunch Room where Carolyn Arnold would see Oswald carrying out what he told Stanton when she saw him eating lunch alone in that Lunch Room at 12:25...

We already know Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots because Captain Fritz told the Commission that was where Oswald said he was in his Warren Commission testimony...Fritz further elucidated: " Oswald said he usually worked on the first floor"...There's no doubt that what Fritz was telling Ball there was "Even though Oswald said he usually worked on the first floor, he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room at the time"...

Jack Doughtery told Gil Toff that "Oswald was up eating his lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room while I ate my lunch below in the Domino Room"...

James Hosty emphatically told Nigel Turner on film " Oswald told us he was alone in the Lunch Room during the assassination"...(That can't be the Domino Room because Dougherty was down there. It has to be the 2nd Floor Lunch Room where Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald eating alone)...Smart researchers (not ROKC nuts) would ask themselves why Hosty didn't write that in his notes...

You can see the Prayer Man trolls using ridicule and ignoring to stand the real evidence on its head and twist things towards Prayer Man...The evidence is clear as day that the Fritz 3PM interrogation was distorted because Oswald told them he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...Also, the interrogators needed to hide the fact Shelley assisted Oswald around the police cordon and out the rear exit after Oswald was stopped at the front door...

So how do alleged CT-ers, who are supposed to be exposing the correct evidence and solving the crime, end up being this group of twisted assholes, trolls, and pompous egotists like DiEugenio, who are hell bent on ignoring the obvious solution and promoting this obvious childish ROKC/Parker bullshit?...Is the JFK research internet heavily infiltrated by Sunstein Agent trolls?...Or are they just idiots?...

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Scrum Drum

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On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 8:15:35 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 12:16:04 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:56:00 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:

Greg Parker wrote:

" Quick story. I tried to get Sean Murphy to post here more than he did. He only ever made a very small number of posts here. But he told me why. He wanted to go into "enemy" terrtory and give them every opportunity to poke holes in his theory. I believe he did this at least partly because unknown to the rest of us, he always planned on calling it quits at the 50th. He wanted to fast-track it all, find holes and fix them or abandon the thery if the holes destroyed it,and all of this within that timeframe. "

If I'm not mistaken, I think what Greg is saying there is Murphy abandoned his theory because he realized there was a serious hole poked in it in the form of Prayer Man being Sarah Stanton...

Greg is also too thick to realize Sean was being diplomatic and the real reason he didn't post at ROKC is because he didn't want to be associated with a notorious troll farm...

Greg Parker

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On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:24:08 PM UTC+10, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 8:15:35 AM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 12:16:04 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-4, Scrum Drum wrote:
> > > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:26:40 PM UTC-4, robert johnson wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:56:00 PM UTC+1, Tropp...@aol.com wrote:
> Greg Parker wrote:
>
>
> " Quick story. I tried to get Sean Murphy to post here more than he did. He only ever made a very small number of posts here. But he told me why. He wanted to go into "enemy" terrtory and give them every opportunity to poke holes in his theory. I believe he did this at least partly because unknown to the rest of us, he always planned on calling it quits at the 50th. He wanted to fast-track it all, find holes and fix them or abandon the thery if the holes destroyed it,and all of this within that timeframe. "
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>
> If I'm not mistaken,

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DELUSIONAL IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!