RUTH PAINE
David Von Pein
David Von Pein
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RE: LEE OSWALD'S DRIVING.....
Lee Harvey Oswald positively did not have a driver's license as of
11/22/63.
If you read Ruth Paine's testimony, this fact is confirmed:
MRS. PAINE -- "I knew that he [LHO] had not even a learner's permit to
drive. I wasn't interested in his driving on the street with my car
until he had such. But on Sunday [October 13, 1963] the parking lot of
a neighboring shopping center was empty, and I am quite certain that
is where the driving lesson took place."
[Also in Paine's testimony....]
MRS. PAINE -- "I learned Lee was not able to drive and didn't have a
license."
MR. [ALBERT] JENNER -- "How did you learn he was not able to drive?"
MRS. PAINE -- "I think it was related to his looking for work the
first time in the middle of April, and I had learned he had looked in
the Dallas area for work."
MR. JENNER -- "How did you learn it?"
MRS. PAINE -- "We were talking about it."
MR. JENNER -- "You were talking with Lee?"
MRS. PAINE -- "Yes."
MR. JENNER -- "Did he tell you that he was not able to drive a car?"
MRS. PAINE -- "That he had never learned how."
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There's also testimony from Ruth Paine that indicates that Oswald was
attempting to get his learner's permit to learn how to drive just
after Veteran's Day in early to mid November 1963, but the lines at
the license branch were too long and there wasn't enough time that day
for Lee to wait through the long lines and take his driving test, and
therefore he never did get his permit.
And you can't get a state driver's license until you first get an
initial permit to drive...and LHO didn't even have a LEARNER'S PERMIT
yet (as of the day of the assassination).
More on this topic came out during the following section of Ruth
Paine's WC testimony:
MRS. PAINE -- "[Lee Oswald] suggested that he go from Dallas himself
to take this test [for getting his learner's permit]. Then he called
us Saturday afternoon of the 16th to say he had been and tried to get
his driver's permit, but that he had arrived before closing time, but
still to late to get in because there was a long line ahead of him,
the place having been closed both the previous Saturday for election
day and the following Monday, the 11th, Veterans Day. There were a lot
of people who wanted to get permits and he was advised that it
wouldn't pay him to wait in line. He didn't have time to be tested."
>>> "Well David, what do you say to Frankie Vegas about Lee having a license. Lots of people seemed to think he could drive and Aletha Frair gave her statement of having seen his license. I say again, if he did not have a licence but one turned up then we have a proven conspiracy. What do you think?" <<<
You think that a driver's license of Oswald's would "prove" a
conspiracy existed in the murder of the President?
That's a huge non sequitur there.
Also -- Any idea why Oswald would want to play a silly little "I can
drive but I'll pretend I can't" game with Ruth Paine?
And why would he just pretend to go to the license branch in November
of '63 to get a learner's permit....even though he already has a
driver's license?
In any event....Oswald's "driver's license status" proves NOTHING with
respect to whether LHO acted alone in killing JFK on 11/22/63.
jbarge
Actually Ruth has said she was giving LHO driving lessons in a parking
lot as well, I believe.
One thing that is slightly odd - LHO had trouble learning how to type
& drive a car as well.
But his hand-eye coordination was sure excellent on 11/22/1963.