On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:24:48 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
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davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>WALT SAID (INCREDIBLY, WITHOUT A HINT OF REDNESS):
Notice that Von Penis starts with ad hominem...
>> "The fact that the TSBD was set up as the place where the shots
>> were fired from is a strong indication that there was a conspiracy.
>> Obviously Oswald didn't want to take credit for shooting JFK. He
>> adamantly denied that he had anything to do with any shooting.
>> Therefore if he really had been one of the assassins and didn't want
>> to be connected with the crime he would not have shot JFK from [t]he
>> building where he was employed, because he was smart enough to know
>> that the cops would question every employee in that building in search
>> of the killer. If Oswald had been the assassin he would have found
>> another site to shoot from...one that he was not connected to."
Not convincing. People who commit crimes are, by definition, not
completely right in their head. - and that's all Von Penis needed to
say.
>DVP SAYS:
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>The amount of "denial" and "evidence ignoring" that exists in Walt's
>above post is staggering.
Von Penis starts with a logical fallacy, and it gets no better...
>Things Walt must totally ignore (or pretend were "faked" and/or
>"planted") in order for his above paragraph of garbage to be
>considered true:
Watch folks, as the logical fallacies begin to fly:
>1.) Lee Harvey Oswald's prints all over the EXACT place in the TSBD
>from where an assassin was firing a rifle at President Kennedy.
As was an unknown print - from someone NOT authorized to be in the
building. Do you suppose that Von Penis just *forgot* this fact?
Or that Oswald's prints *SHOULD* have been found there?
>2.) Oswald's very own rifle found on the same floor from where an
>assassin was shooting at JFK.
Logical fallacy... begging the question. This is a VERY common fault
among believers.
>3.) Three bullet shells from Oswald's rifle found directly underneath
>the same window from where an assassin was firing a rifle at JFK.
While "3" certainly became the standard history, it *started off* as
only two. Von Penis isn't honest enough to tell you this.
>4.) Howard Brennan's positive identification of Lee Oswald as the TSBD
>assassin.
And again, Von Penis isn't honest enough to tell you that originally,
Brennan *REFUSED* to identify Oswald.
>5.) Oswald's fleeing the building within minutes of the assassination.
Can anyone name this blatant logical fallacy?
>This action taken by Oswald, plus all of his other post-12:30 actions
>on 11/22/63, reek of guilt (except to conspiracists who WANT Sweet Lee
>to be free from all blame in both the JFK and Tippit murders).
Yep... many murderers, when given the day off from work, like to take
in a movie at the movie theater.
Very convincing, Von Penis!
>6.) Oswald's many lies that he told the authorities after his arrest.
Cite the proof for just *ONE* of them!
You can't.
>Particularly his lies concerning his Carcano rifle, which are lies
>that also reek of guilt, as LHO was obviously attempting to distance
>himself as much as humanly possible from the weapon that killed John
>F. Kennedy.
You're incapable of proving this, as was the WCR.
> And why would an INNOCENT Lee Oswald need to "distance"
>himself from the weapon if he didn't use it HIMSELF to kill the
>President?
An innocent Oswald who didn't own a Mannlicher Carcano would merely be
telling the truth.
Did this ever occur to you?
>Sadly, Walter Cakebread will continue to remain a charter member in
>the "Anybody But Oswald" conspiracy club (which was established in
>1966 and helmed by Earling Carothers "Jimbo" Garrison), despite the
>half-dozen items of hard evidence displayed in my list above.
You've not listed **ANY** "hard evidence."
You cannot even "define" what "hard evidence" is.