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Mark Lane #262 (Another Great Post That LNT'ers Will Run From...)
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Ben Holmes
May 17, 2013, 9:10:25 AM5/17/13
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In the previous paragraphs, Mark Lane pointed out how the Warren Commission
mislead it's readers on the evidence, and here we are going to see rather
dramatic proof of how the Warren Commission outright lied:
"Joe Linthicum, who knew Ruby for 13 years, told agents of the FBI that Ruby
gave 'drinks on the house' to the police. Joseph R. Cavagnaro, the manager of
the Sheraton Dallas Hotel in Dallas, told agents of the FBI that Ruby 'knew all
the policemen in town' and was 'well acquainted with a great number of
policemen'.39 Cavagnaro and Ruby knew one another well, it may be said; they had
been friends for eight years and Ruby dined at Cavagnaro's home and had 'given a
Dachshund dog to Cavagnaro for his boys'. Cavagnaro told the FBI which officers
Ruby knew and which were Ruby's 'close' friends. They included at least one
police lieutenant, whom he named. Another lieutenant told the FBI that he was
'very well acquainted' with Ruby. He said that he and his wife and friends had
visited Ruby's strip clubs and that 'Ruby was well known among the members of
the Dallas Police Department'.
Johnny Cola, a musician employed by Ruby's former business associate, told
agents of the FBI that he had known Ruby for many years 'on a close personal
basis' and pointed out that 'Ruby at least had a speaking acquaintance with most
of the policemen in the Dallas Police Department'. Dewey F. Groom, who likewise
knew Ruby 'on a close personal basis' for years, said that 'Ruby knew many
officers'.
William O'Donnell, who knew Ruby for 16 years and worked for him at the
Carousel, stated that 'Ruby is on speaking terms with about 700 out of the 1200
men on the police force' and that he was consequently 'not at all surprised to
learn of Ruby's admittance to the basement'. When police officers dropped in at
the Carousel, O'Donnell said, they were admitted without charge and given a free
'round of drinks'. According to an FBI report, a former Dallas police officer,
Theodore L. Fleming, told agents that he visited Ruby's strip club, that he and
'many Dallas police officers' were on a 'first name basis' with Ruby and that
'90 per cent of the time' Ruby served free drinks for him. He told the FBI
agents that he 'was of the opinion that most of the other police officers who
frequented the Carousel were treated in much the same manner'.
Edward H. McBee, a Dallas bartender in close contact with Ruby, said to the FBI
that Ruby 'knew many, and probably most, of the officers in the Dallas Police
Department'. Mrs Edward J. Pullman, a hostess at the Carousel, told the FBI it
was frequented by 'most of the officers of the Dallas Police Department' and
that she 'felt certain that Rubv knew most of these officers on a first-name
basis'. She added that 'the police officers visiting the Carousel Club were
never given a bill in connection with their visits there'. Hugh G. Smith, a
former Dallas police officer, told agents of the FBI that Ruby's club was
'recommended to him' by a Dallas police officer 'when he joined the Dallas
Police Department', that 'a great manv' Dallas police officers 'attended the
club socially' and that Ruby gave bottles of liquor to 'numerous policemen'.
Smith also said that a Dallas police officer, 'a bachelor', had 'used Ruby's
apartment on several occasions'.
Edward Castro, employed by Ruby during 1960, told the FBI that 'Ruby was
friendly with all law enforcement officers and numerous officers came into the
club'. Mrs Janice N. Jones, a former waitress at the Carousel, told agents of
the FBI that Ruby gave bottles of liquor to Dallas policemen and would not
charge the officers who visited his club.
Richard W. Proeber, who worked part-time for Ruby, told agents of the FBI that
'Ruby's club was frequented by Dallas police officials'. He also told the agents
that there 'was talk amongst Ruby's help that Ruby was "paying off" the Dallas
Police Department for special favors'.
James Rhodes, a 'producer of stage entertainment' and a photographer, told the
FBI that Ruby, whom he had known for some years, 'was very friendly with members
of the Dallas Police Department' and that 'many officers of the Dallas Police
Department came in and out of the Carousel, including both uniformed patrolmen,
as well as plain-clothes officers'. Ruby 'gave orders to the bartender and
waitresses that the officers should never be charged for anything they received
at the club'. Once Rhodes was a bartender for Ruby and 'a large party was held
there [the Carousel] by a group of thirty or forty police officers'. Ruby told
him on that occasion that 'the chief was there. Rhodes added that he understood
Ruby to have paid for the party. He also said that an 'after hours' party for 14
members of the Dallas police vice squad was held by Ruby at the Carousel.
Joe Bonds, Ruby's former partner, told agents of the FBI that Ruby 'was very
friendly with police officers' and gave 'off-duty paying jobs' to Dallas police
officers as well as 'free dinners and drinks'. Bonds also said that Ruby 'made
women available to officers'—both strippers and customers. Leo Sherin, who met
Ruby in 1958, said that Ruby was always inviting Dallas police officers to his
club and that Ruby would advise them which girl was available, saying, 'She will
play.' Alfred Davidson, Jr, who told FBI agents that he met Ruby during October
1963, said that Ruby 'knew everyone on the police force' and carried a 'police
pass'.
Linthicum, Cavagnaro, Cola, Groom, O'Donnell, Fleming, McBee, Mrs Pullman,
Smith, Castro, Mrs Jones, Proeber, Rhodes, Bonds, Sherin and Davidson were not
called as witnesses by the Commission."
Mark Lane has just shown an obvious lie on the Warren Commission's part, and
Billy Clarke will run so fast that his running shoes will be smoking...
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Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com
mislead it's readers on the evidence, and here we are going to see rather
dramatic proof of how the Warren Commission outright lied:
"Joe Linthicum, who knew Ruby for 13 years, told agents of the FBI that Ruby
gave 'drinks on the house' to the police. Joseph R. Cavagnaro, the manager of
the Sheraton Dallas Hotel in Dallas, told agents of the FBI that Ruby 'knew all
the policemen in town' and was 'well acquainted with a great number of
policemen'.39 Cavagnaro and Ruby knew one another well, it may be said; they had
been friends for eight years and Ruby dined at Cavagnaro's home and had 'given a
Dachshund dog to Cavagnaro for his boys'. Cavagnaro told the FBI which officers
Ruby knew and which were Ruby's 'close' friends. They included at least one
police lieutenant, whom he named. Another lieutenant told the FBI that he was
'very well acquainted' with Ruby. He said that he and his wife and friends had
visited Ruby's strip clubs and that 'Ruby was well known among the members of
the Dallas Police Department'.
Johnny Cola, a musician employed by Ruby's former business associate, told
agents of the FBI that he had known Ruby for many years 'on a close personal
basis' and pointed out that 'Ruby at least had a speaking acquaintance with most
of the policemen in the Dallas Police Department'. Dewey F. Groom, who likewise
knew Ruby 'on a close personal basis' for years, said that 'Ruby knew many
officers'.
William O'Donnell, who knew Ruby for 16 years and worked for him at the
Carousel, stated that 'Ruby is on speaking terms with about 700 out of the 1200
men on the police force' and that he was consequently 'not at all surprised to
learn of Ruby's admittance to the basement'. When police officers dropped in at
the Carousel, O'Donnell said, they were admitted without charge and given a free
'round of drinks'. According to an FBI report, a former Dallas police officer,
Theodore L. Fleming, told agents that he visited Ruby's strip club, that he and
'many Dallas police officers' were on a 'first name basis' with Ruby and that
'90 per cent of the time' Ruby served free drinks for him. He told the FBI
agents that he 'was of the opinion that most of the other police officers who
frequented the Carousel were treated in much the same manner'.
Edward H. McBee, a Dallas bartender in close contact with Ruby, said to the FBI
that Ruby 'knew many, and probably most, of the officers in the Dallas Police
Department'. Mrs Edward J. Pullman, a hostess at the Carousel, told the FBI it
was frequented by 'most of the officers of the Dallas Police Department' and
that she 'felt certain that Rubv knew most of these officers on a first-name
basis'. She added that 'the police officers visiting the Carousel Club were
never given a bill in connection with their visits there'. Hugh G. Smith, a
former Dallas police officer, told agents of the FBI that Ruby's club was
'recommended to him' by a Dallas police officer 'when he joined the Dallas
Police Department', that 'a great manv' Dallas police officers 'attended the
club socially' and that Ruby gave bottles of liquor to 'numerous policemen'.
Smith also said that a Dallas police officer, 'a bachelor', had 'used Ruby's
apartment on several occasions'.
Edward Castro, employed by Ruby during 1960, told the FBI that 'Ruby was
friendly with all law enforcement officers and numerous officers came into the
club'. Mrs Janice N. Jones, a former waitress at the Carousel, told agents of
the FBI that Ruby gave bottles of liquor to Dallas policemen and would not
charge the officers who visited his club.
Richard W. Proeber, who worked part-time for Ruby, told agents of the FBI that
'Ruby's club was frequented by Dallas police officials'. He also told the agents
that there 'was talk amongst Ruby's help that Ruby was "paying off" the Dallas
Police Department for special favors'.
James Rhodes, a 'producer of stage entertainment' and a photographer, told the
FBI that Ruby, whom he had known for some years, 'was very friendly with members
of the Dallas Police Department' and that 'many officers of the Dallas Police
Department came in and out of the Carousel, including both uniformed patrolmen,
as well as plain-clothes officers'. Ruby 'gave orders to the bartender and
waitresses that the officers should never be charged for anything they received
at the club'. Once Rhodes was a bartender for Ruby and 'a large party was held
there [the Carousel] by a group of thirty or forty police officers'. Ruby told
him on that occasion that 'the chief was there. Rhodes added that he understood
Ruby to have paid for the party. He also said that an 'after hours' party for 14
members of the Dallas police vice squad was held by Ruby at the Carousel.
Joe Bonds, Ruby's former partner, told agents of the FBI that Ruby 'was very
friendly with police officers' and gave 'off-duty paying jobs' to Dallas police
officers as well as 'free dinners and drinks'. Bonds also said that Ruby 'made
women available to officers'—both strippers and customers. Leo Sherin, who met
Ruby in 1958, said that Ruby was always inviting Dallas police officers to his
club and that Ruby would advise them which girl was available, saying, 'She will
play.' Alfred Davidson, Jr, who told FBI agents that he met Ruby during October
1963, said that Ruby 'knew everyone on the police force' and carried a 'police
pass'.
Linthicum, Cavagnaro, Cola, Groom, O'Donnell, Fleming, McBee, Mrs Pullman,
Smith, Castro, Mrs Jones, Proeber, Rhodes, Bonds, Sherin and Davidson were not
called as witnesses by the Commission."
Mark Lane has just shown an obvious lie on the Warren Commission's part, and
Billy Clarke will run so fast that his running shoes will be smoking...
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Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com
timstter
May 17, 2013, 8:55:59 PM5/17/13
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the same stuff about Ruby knowing the Dallas police:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh15/html/WC_Vol15_0119b.htm
Lane pulled all these statements he mentioned out of Volume XXIII of
the Warren Commission!
Whatever obscure point partially KGB-funded Lane is labouring to make
he completely fails to make it.
BTW, Bill Clarke has REPEATEDLY advised you that his interest in Lane
stems from the lies Lane told about the Vietnam war in his book
Conversations With Americans and that he has little interest or
knowledge of Lane's lies re the JFK assassination.
The fact that you keep challenging him on something he has REPEATEDLY
disavowed knowledge of shows what an itellectual fraud and coward you
are, Holmes.
You are truly PATHETIC and your hero, Mark Lane, is a DOCUMENTED liar
on both the Vietnam War AND JFK's assassination.
Informative Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm
X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
timstter
May 22, 2013, 7:03:49 AM5/22/13
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>
> Lane pulled all these statements he mentioned out of Volume XXIII of
> the Warren Commission!
>
> Whatever obscure point partially KGB-funded Lane is labouring to make
> he completely fails to make it.
>
> BTW, Bill Clarke has REPEATEDLY advised you that his interest in Lane
> stems from the lies Lane told about the Vietnam war in his book
> Conversations With Americans and that he has little interest or
> knowledge of Lane's lies re the JFK assassination.
>
> The fact that you keep challenging him on something he has REPEATEDLY
> disavowed knowledge of shows what an itellectual fraud and coward you
> are, Holmes.
>
> You are truly PATHETIC and your hero, Mark Lane, is a DOCUMENTED liar
> on both the Vietnam War AND JFK's assassination.
>
> Informative Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
>
> And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...
> Lane pulled all these statements he mentioned out of Volume XXIII of
> the Warren Commission!
>
> Whatever obscure point partially KGB-funded Lane is labouring to make
> he completely fails to make it.
>
> BTW, Bill Clarke has REPEATEDLY advised you that his interest in Lane
> stems from the lies Lane told about the Vietnam war in his book
> Conversations With Americans and that he has little interest or
> knowledge of Lane's lies re the JFK assassination.
>
> The fact that you keep challenging him on something he has REPEATEDLY
> disavowed knowledge of shows what an itellectual fraud and coward you
> are, Holmes.
>
> You are truly PATHETIC and your hero, Mark Lane, is a DOCUMENTED liar
> on both the Vietnam War AND JFK's assassination.
>
> Informative Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> *...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
> neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
> Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
>
>
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
BUMP! YOO HOO! HOLMES!
> X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
TB
aeffects
May 22, 2013, 3:55:32 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 4:03 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>
> BUMP! YOO HOO! HOLMES!
>
> TB
what, do you need mother's attention, Chubb's?
...
>
> BUMP! YOO HOO! HOLMES!
>
> TB
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