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Chuck Schuyler
Sep 3, 2023, 11:31:34 AM9/3/23
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From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
Sky Throne:
"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 3, 2023, 11:51:53 AM9/3/23
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Chuck Schuyler
Sep 3, 2023, 11:57:20 AM9/3/23
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Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 3, 2023, 12:02:02 PM9/3/23
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John Corbett
Sep 3, 2023, 2:17:32 PM9/3/23
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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 11:31:34 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is
that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy
reason. Either way, he's nuts.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 3, 2023, 2:19:21 PM9/3/23
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David Von Pein
Sep 3, 2023, 6:33:07 PM9/3/23
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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:17:32 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.
The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in this video series:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E
Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.
Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 3, 2023, 9:56:57 PM9/3/23
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Gil Jesus
Sep 4, 2023, 5:17:28 AM9/4/23
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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
I guess Von Pinhead didn't get the memo that David Lifton died last December.
> Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/david-lifton-obituary?id=38395843
I guess in the fantasy world of the Lone Nutters its possible to post under an assumed name after your dead, but in reality it's quite impossible.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 5:50:00 AM9/4/23
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John Corbett
Sep 4, 2023, 8:07:27 AM9/4/23
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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:17:28 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
John Corbett
Sep 4, 2023, 8:17:10 AM9/4/23
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all significant about that. Just a little tidbit of information.
It's very possible that if Jack Ruby hadn't killed him, Oswald would be alive today in the Texas
state penitentiary. He would be about a month and a half shy of his 84th birthday.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 9:23:57 AM9/4/23
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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
John Corbett
Sep 4, 2023, 11:16:51 AM9/4/23
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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 9:23:57 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
> > uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
> >
> > Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
> > nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
> > Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
> > efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
> > that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
> > will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that,
Why don't we just look at what DVP actually said. This is a direct quote:
> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27 AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
> > uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
> >
> > Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
> > nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
> > Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
> > efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
> > that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
> > will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that,
"The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Liftonin this video series:"
> but that is the way DVP behaves, as if I believe everything Lifton uttered. This makes attack convenient because it allows DVP to respond to me by attacking what Lifton uttered,
About 30 years ago Lifton got one of my posts removed from the Prodigy forum because I
insulted him. I said David Lifton was either a liar or a loon. There was no third possibility. I
didn't realize when I wrote it that Lifton was a member of that group and I ran afoul of the
Prodigy guidelines by insulting a fellow member. I took getting cancelled by Lifton as a
badge of honor. I still do and I stand by what I said about him back then.
> following paths well-trodden by others. But I don't even know most of what Lifton uttered. There is a common element, but most of the details probably are different. But, being a Nutter Retard, a member of an intellectually inferior race, DVP matches me to his Lifton category so that he can attack the category, without knowing or caring that I don't agree much with Lifton.
> DVP is delusional on his hamster wheel world, but it is what makes him comfortable, so that's what he does.
else delusional.
Chuck Schuyler
Sep 4, 2023, 11:34:05 AM9/4/23
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What makes posting here so amusing is the utter lack of self-awareness from the collective Team Oswald members who seem serenely oblivious that their views are in opposition to their other team members' views. Between you and Gil, ONE OF YOU is remarkably wrong. Why are you right, and why is Gil wrong? Why are you right and why is Don Willis wrong? Why are you right and why is Ben Holmes wrong? This seems to completely sail over your head, I know, but it's worth pointing out. You are fighting the conclusion of history that Oswald acted alone with no known help and you are also fighting against EVERY OTHER CT WHO THINKS YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
In fact, Team Oswald member Ben Holmes thinks you're a "plant" for the "lone nut" side. Everything is a conspiracy, I guess.
Anyways, keep investigoogling, keep posting, keep researching, keep "fighting the good fight" to bring JFK's killers to accountability. You're closer to the truth than Gil, scary as that sounds. Keep on being a keyboard warrior for JFK Justice! I'm sure JFK's remaining family members that haven't been wiped out by skiing accidents, other assassinations, old age, plane crashes, etc. appreciate your efforts.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 12:02:10 PM9/4/23
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Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 12:04:04 PM9/4/23
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Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 12:10:20 PM9/4/23
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Sky Throne:
"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. Connally first shot him with poison. Then the throat shot came from the overpass but was not a fatal wound. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
John Corbett
Sep 4, 2023, 12:45:04 PM9/4/23
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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 12:10:20 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> Sky Throne:
>
> "It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. Connally first shot him with poison. Then the throat shot came from the overpass but was not a fatal wound. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
If you showed that to 100 people at random, 99 would laugh their asses off at you, and maybe
> Sky Throne:
>
> "It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. Connally first shot him with poison. Then the throat shot came from the overpass but was not a fatal wound. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
one would take pity on you. I'm in the 99%.
David Von Pein
Sep 4, 2023, 2:43:47 PM9/4/23
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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:50:00 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> David...cannot make his own path through the evidence...
Well, that ranks as certainly one of the dumbest things ever uttered by The Throne here at the acj asylum. Because the "path through the evidence" couldn't possibly be any clearer and plain and definitive. It all points to Oswald. And I certainly don't need the help of VB, Gerald P., or anybody else to know that basic fact.
> David...cannot make his own path through the evidence...
Well, that ranks as certainly one of the dumbest things ever uttered by The Throne here at the acj asylum. Because the "path through the evidence" couldn't possibly be any clearer and plain and definitive. It all points to Oswald. And I certainly don't need the help of VB, Gerald P., or anybody else to know that basic fact.
David Von Pein
Sep 4, 2023, 2:51:55 PM9/4/23
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The mega-kook called The Throne actually seems to be PROUD of his "Connally shot him with poison" post. He's re-posting it again and again. (I love it.)
Normally when somebody embarrasses themselves THAT much in public, they don't want further attention focused on their idiocy. But not our kook named Throne. He's basking in his crackpottery by re-posting his fantasy again----and yet again!
Go figure CT kooks!
Normally when somebody embarrasses themselves THAT much in public, they don't want further attention focused on their idiocy. But not our kook named Throne. He's basking in his crackpottery by re-posting his fantasy again----and yet again!
Go figure CT kooks!
John Corbett
Sep 4, 2023, 4:38:55 PM9/4/23
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believe such nonsense. There used to be a nutty poster here by the name of Sam McClung. I'm
wondering if they are one and the same.
In any case, the worst thing you can do with a troll is give them the attention they are craving. It's time for me to just ignore the idiot like I do with Holmes.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 4, 2023, 4:42:27 PM9/4/23
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Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:30 AM9/5/23
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I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
to figure out.
But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:31 AM9/5/23
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 11:17:30 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 11:31:34?AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
>> From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>
>> This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>
>> Sky Throne:
>>
>> "It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>
>> Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>
>> Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
Logical fallacy deleted.
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 11:31:34?AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
>> From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>
>> This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>
>> Sky Throne:
>>
>> "It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>
>> Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>
>> Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:32 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 05:07:26 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:17:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:17:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>>
>> > Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>> I guess Von Pinhead didn't get the memo that David Lifton died last December.
>> https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/david-lifton-obituary?id=38395843
>>
>> I guess in the fantasy world of the Lone Nutters its possible to post under an assumed name after your dead, but in reality it's quite impossible.
Logical fallacies deleted... where's Huckster when you need him?
>>
>> > Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>> I guess Von Pinhead didn't get the memo that David Lifton died last December.
>> https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/david-lifton-obituary?id=38395843
>>
>> I guess in the fantasy world of the Lone Nutters its possible to post under an assumed name after your dead, but in reality it's quite impossible.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:32 AM9/5/23
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 15:33:06 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
Just as you are a coward.
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:33 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 08:34:03 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:23:57?AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:17:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
Yep. "Troll."
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:23:57?AM UTC-5, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 5:17:28?AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>>>> I guess Von Pinhead didn't get the memo that David Lifton died last December.
>>>> https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/david-lifton-obituary?id=38395843
>>>>
>>>> I guess in the fantasy world of the Lone Nutters its possible to post under an assumed name after your dead, but in reality it's quite impossible.
>>> DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
>>> uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
>>>
>>> Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
>>> nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
>>> Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
>>> efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
>>> that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
>>> will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
>
>> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that, but that is the way DVP behaves, as if I believe everything Lifton uttered. This makes attack convenient because it allows DVP to respond to me by attacking what Lifton uttered, following paths well-trodden by others. But I don't even know most of what Lifton uttered. There is a common element, but most of the details probably are different. But, being a Nutter Retard, a member of an intellectually inferior race, DVP matches me to his Lifton category so that he can attack the category, without knowing or caring that I don't agree much with Lifton. DVP is delusional on his hamster wheel world, but it is what makes him comfortable, so that's what he does.
>
>You are in your own "category" Sky Throne...
>>>>
>>>>> Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>>>> I guess Von Pinhead didn't get the memo that David Lifton died last December.
>>>> https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/david-lifton-obituary?id=38395843
>>>>
>>>> I guess in the fantasy world of the Lone Nutters its possible to post under an assumed name after your dead, but in reality it's quite impossible.
>>> DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
>>> uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
>>>
>>> Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
>>> nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
>>> Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
>>> efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
>>> that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
>>> will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
>
>> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that, but that is the way DVP behaves, as if I believe everything Lifton uttered. This makes attack convenient because it allows DVP to respond to me by attacking what Lifton uttered, following paths well-trodden by others. But I don't even know most of what Lifton uttered. There is a common element, but most of the details probably are different. But, being a Nutter Retard, a member of an intellectually inferior race, DVP matches me to his Lifton category so that he can attack the category, without knowing or caring that I don't agree much with Lifton. DVP is delusional on his hamster wheel world, but it is what makes him comfortable, so that's what he does.
>
Yep. "Troll."
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:35 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 08:16:49 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 9:23:57?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
me, Tony ran from me, misc others have run from me...
Knowing that you're all cowards, it's hard to take any pride in that.
>> following paths well-trodden by others. But I don't even know most of what Lifton uttered. There is a common element, but most of the details probably are different. But, being a Nutter Retard, a member of an intellectually inferior race, DVP matches me to his Lifton category so that he can attack the category, without knowing or caring that I don't agree much with Lifton.
>
>In a can of mixed nuts, the two of you are just different varieties.
>
>> DVP is delusional on his hamster wheel world, but it is what makes him comfortable, so that's what he does.
>
>Anyone who posted the nonsense you did a few days ago has no business ever calling anyone
>else delusional.
Says the kook!
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 9:23:57?AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 8:07:27?AM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>
>>> DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
>>> uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
>>>
>>> Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
>>> nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
>>> Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
>>> efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
>>> that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
>>> will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
>> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that,
>
>Why don't we just look at what DVP actually said. This is a direct quote:
>
>"The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Liftonin this video series:"
>
>> but that is the way DVP behaves, as if I believe everything Lifton uttered. This makes attack convenient because it allows DVP to respond to me by attacking what Lifton uttered,
>
>You're both far out kooks. One of you isn't any nuttier the other.
>
>About 30 years ago Lifton got one of my posts removed from the Prodigy forum because I
>insulted him. I said David Lifton was either a liar or a loon. There was no third possibility. I
>didn't realize when I wrote it that Lifton was a member of that group and I ran afoul of the
>Prodigy guidelines by insulting a fellow member. I took getting cancelled by Lifton as a
>badge of honor. I still do and I stand by what I said about him back then.
You've run from me, Huckster frequently runs from me, McAdams ran from
>
>>> DVP didn't say the Toilet Seat was David Lifton. He said he believed everything David Lifton
>>> uttered. The two of you should try reading for comprehension next time.
>>>
>>> Most conspiracy kooks dream up nutty ideas that will die with them. The few who publish their
>>> nutty ideas, like Lifton, will have those nutty ideas hang around a little longer but soon all the
>>> Liftonites will assume room temperature and Lifton will be just another forgotten kook. His
>>> efforts will all be for naught. Just like yours, Gil. Like Rossley and Marsh, you have a website
>>> that will linger until somebody stops paying the bills, but it will eventually vaporize and nobody
>>> will ever know or care what you have written. Have a nice day.
>> Moron Corbett claims that DVP said that I believe everything Lifton uttered. I don't think DVP said that,
>
>Why don't we just look at what DVP actually said. This is a direct quote:
>
>"The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Liftonin this video series:"
>
>> but that is the way DVP behaves, as if I believe everything Lifton uttered. This makes attack convenient because it allows DVP to respond to me by attacking what Lifton uttered,
>
>You're both far out kooks. One of you isn't any nuttier the other.
>
>About 30 years ago Lifton got one of my posts removed from the Prodigy forum because I
>insulted him. I said David Lifton was either a liar or a loon. There was no third possibility. I
>didn't realize when I wrote it that Lifton was a member of that group and I ran afoul of the
>Prodigy guidelines by insulting a fellow member. I took getting cancelled by Lifton as a
>badge of honor. I still do and I stand by what I said about him back then.
me, Tony ran from me, misc others have run from me...
Knowing that you're all cowards, it's hard to take any pride in that.
>> following paths well-trodden by others. But I don't even know most of what Lifton uttered. There is a common element, but most of the details probably are different. But, being a Nutter Retard, a member of an intellectually inferior race, DVP matches me to his Lifton category so that he can attack the category, without knowing or caring that I don't agree much with Lifton.
>
>In a can of mixed nuts, the two of you are just different varieties.
>
>> DVP is delusional on his hamster wheel world, but it is what makes him comfortable, so that's what he does.
>
>Anyone who posted the nonsense you did a few days ago has no business ever calling anyone
>else delusional.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:36 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>The mega-kook called The Throne actually seems to be PROUD of his
> "Connally shot him with poison" post. He's re-posting it again and
> again. (I love it.)
Of *COURSE* you love it. You don't have to lie about what a troll
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>The mega-kook called The Throne actually seems to be PROUD of his
> "Connally shot him with poison" post. He's re-posting it again and
> again. (I love it.)
like this says... You can just respond to it as if it were the
ordinary critic.
It's the REAL critics that terrify you - because without lying about
what we post, you can't refute us.
> Normally when somebody embarrasses themselves THAT much in public,
> they don't want further attention focused on their idiocy. But not our
> kook named Throne. He's basking in his crackpottery by re-posting his
> fantasy again----and yet again!
resposted stupid wacky stuff for you to respond to.
>Go figure CT kooks!
I can understand why you'd want him in the critic's corner, but I
killfiled him almost before he started posting.
And for good reason.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:36 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 09:45:02 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep - most people are far too smart to accept such a silly claim.
They are also too smart to accept the WCR.
As polls have proven - time and time again...
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
They are also too smart to accept the WCR.
As polls have proven - time and time again...
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:38 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
What fact?
You're TERRIFIED of citing the evidence. It so often proves you
wrong. Such as the location of the large wound on the BACK of JFK's
head.
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
You're TERRIFIED of citing the evidence. It so often proves you
wrong. Such as the location of the large wound on the BACK of JFK's
head.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 10:42:39 AM9/5/23
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 13:38:53 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It pretty much confirms my suspicion that he is just trolling for attention.
Took you *THIS* long to figure this out? This is merely another
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It pretty much confirms my suspicion that he is just trolling for attention.
example of the poor reasoning skills of believers.
>Nobody could really believe such nonsense.
there's no reason to...
> In any case, the worst thing you can do with a troll is give them
> the attention they are craving. It's time for me to just ignore the
> idiot like I do with Holmes.
just refuse to respond. And the REASON you don't respond is obvious
to intelligent lurkers...
Hank Sienzant
Sep 5, 2023, 12:09:23 PM9/5/23
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On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
Straw Man logical fallacy. DVP didn't say that. For one thing, Lifton’s dead, and checking the requirements for posting here, you have to be pretty much alive to post, which is why you don't see posts from Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, or Michaelangelo.
If you believe Lifton’s theory, explain how he could claim all the shooters were in front of the President, yet never bother to explain how Connally’s wounds, like the President’s, pointed to a shooter from behind.
I confronted him with that question 30 years ago in a conference in Dallas. He said he would explain it in his next book. He never did. Perhaps you can try.
Were Connally’s wounds altered to point to a shooter from behind?
Or was there actually a shooter behind the President and Governor? In which case, his premise that all the shooters were in the front is exposed as false.
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:17:32 PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
> > > No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.
> > The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in this video series:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E
> >
> > Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.
> >
> > Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.
> The inferior race of Nutter Retards can only attack individuals by pretending that they are somebody else. Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
> > > No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.
> > The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in this video series:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E
> >
> > Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.
> >
> > Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.
Straw Man logical fallacy. DVP didn't say that. For one thing, Lifton’s dead, and checking the requirements for posting here, you have to be pretty much alive to post, which is why you don't see posts from Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, or Michaelangelo.
If you believe Lifton’s theory, explain how he could claim all the shooters were in front of the President, yet never bother to explain how Connally’s wounds, like the President’s, pointed to a shooter from behind.
I confronted him with that question 30 years ago in a conference in Dallas. He said he would explain it in his next book. He never did. Perhaps you can try.
Were Connally’s wounds altered to point to a shooter from behind?
Or was there actually a shooter behind the President and Governor? In which case, his premise that all the shooters were in the front is exposed as false.
Hank Sienzant
Sep 5, 2023, 12:21:00 PM9/5/23
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Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 12:23:10 PM9/5/23
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:09:21 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07?PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
Huckster prefers trolls to knowledgeable critics proving him a liar...
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07?PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 12:28:16 PM9/5/23
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>
>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>
>>>Sky Throne:
>>>
>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>
>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>
>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>> to figure out.
>>
>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>
> I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
> published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
> (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
> Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
Empty unsucppored claims are lies, according to Chickenshit.
> Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued
> that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but
> that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane
> avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
The evidence *DOESN'T* support the WCR's theory. I've demonstrated
this many times... you've run...
As just one example of your cowardice, you refuse to tell us why the
"A.B.C.D" from the Autopsy Report describe the precise medical
location of the large wound in JFK's head.
You make claims...
Then you run.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME!!!
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>
>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>
>>>Sky Throne:
>>>
>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>
>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>
>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>> to figure out.
>>
>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>
> I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
> published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
> (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
> Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
> Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued
> that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but
> that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane
> avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
this many times... you've run...
As just one example of your cowardice, you refuse to tell us why the
"A.B.C.D" from the Autopsy Report describe the precise medical
location of the large wound in JFK's head.
You make claims...
Then you run.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME!!!
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 5, 2023, 12:42:53 PM9/5/23
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Hank Sienzant
Sep 5, 2023, 1:49:42 PM9/5/23
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You haven't established:
A. he's a troll
B. There are any such animal as a “Knowledgeable Critic”, since by definition they would believe in a conspiracy.
C. That I’ve been proven to be a liar.
You are likewise invited to respond to the point raised. You won't, of course, other than to claim the answer is elsewhere, in some critic’s book.
Hank Sienzant
Sep 5, 2023, 2:04:34 PM9/5/23
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:28:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
> >> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
> >>>
> >>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
> >>>
> >>>Sky Throne:
> >>>
> >>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
> >>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
> >>>
> >>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
> >>>
> >>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
> >> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
> >> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
> >> to figure out.
> >>
> >> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
> >
> > I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
> > published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
> > (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
> > Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
> Empty unsucppored claims are lies, according to Chickenshit.
So you avoid the point entirely, and don't even attempt to discuss the points raised:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
> >> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
> >>>
> >>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
> >>>
> >>>Sky Throne:
> >>>
> >>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
> >>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
> >>>
> >>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
> >>>
> >>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
> >> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
> >> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
> >> to figure out.
> >>
> >> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
> >
> > I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
> > published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
> > (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
> > Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
> Empty unsucppored claims are lies, according to Chickenshit.
A. Is Sky Throne a troll? You labelled him such, but have yet to support that.
B. Do critics arguments imply unstated forces were at work to assassinate the President and frame Oswald?
As always, you avoid a rational discussion. You're invited to participate.
> > Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued
> > that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but
> > that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane
> > avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
> The evidence *DOESN'T* support the WCR's theory.
> I've demonstrated
> this many times... you've run...
>
> As just one example of your cowardice, you refuse to tell us why the
> "A.B.C.D" from the Autopsy Report describe the precise medical
> location of the large wound in JFK's head.
>
> You make claims...
>
> Then you run.
>
> EVERY
>
> SINGLE
>
> TIME!!!
And all you do is utilize one logical fallacy after another in your responses. The above (with begged questions and red herrings) is a typical response from you.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 2:21:35 PM9/5/23
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 10:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:23:10?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:09:21 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
>> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07?PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:17:32?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>> No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.
>>>>> The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in this video series:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.
>>>> The inferior race of Nutter Retards can only attack individuals by pretending that they are somebody else. Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>>>
>>>Straw Man logical fallacy. DVP didn't say that. For one thing, Lifton’s dead, and checking the requirements for posting here, you have to be pretty much alive to post, which is why you don't see posts from Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, or Michaelangelo.
>>>
>>>If you believe Lifton’s theory, explain how he could claim all the shooters were in front of the President, yet never bother to explain how Connally’s wounds, like the President’s, pointed to a shooter from behind.
>>>
>>>I confronted him with that question 30 years ago in a conference in Dallas. He said he would explain it in his next book. He never did. Perhaps you can try.
>>>
>>>Were Connally’s wounds altered to point to a shooter from behind?
>>>
>>>Or was there actually a shooter behind the President and Governor? In which case, his premise that all the shooters were in the front is exposed as false.
>> Huckster prefers trolls to knowledgeable critics proving him a liar...
>
>No, that’s a three-part begged question logical fallacy.
>
>You haven't established:
>A. he's a troll
That merely shows *YOU* to be a moron.
When you seriously have doubts that someone who stated:
"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from
the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with
poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not
a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did
something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in
his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what
should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then
Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill
credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death.
But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets
the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but
what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired
two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the
Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs,
they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those
bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
Isn't a troll - then *YOU* are a moron.
>B. There are any such animal as a “Knowledgeable Critic”, since by definition they would believe in a conspiracy.
Perhaps by *YOUR* definition. It's fortunate that normal people don't
have to rely on liars for their definitions.
I declare myself a knowledgeable critic, and have in the past had
believers so stating. I could care less whether or not *you* believe
it.
>C. That I’ve been proven to be a liar.
Where should we begin?
How about your claim that the "A.B.C.D." paragraphs in the Autopsy
Report describe the location of the large wound in JFK's head?
Or that a dissection of the front of JFK's throat was ever performed?
> You are likewise invited to respond to the point raised. You won't,
> of course, other than to claim the answer is elsewhere, in some
> critic’s book.
You make claims, you don's support them. THAT'S A FACT.
I feel no need to "respond" to logical fallacies & lies. Other than
to point them out.
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:23:10?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:09:21 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
>> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:56:57?PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:33:07?PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:17:32?PM UTC-4, John Corbett wrote:
>>>>>> No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.
>>>>> The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in this video series:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.
>>>> The inferior race of Nutter Retards can only attack individuals by pretending that they are somebody else. Delusional David Von Penis must pretend that I am David Lifton because he is incapable of original thought.
>>>
>>>Straw Man logical fallacy. DVP didn't say that. For one thing, Lifton’s dead, and checking the requirements for posting here, you have to be pretty much alive to post, which is why you don't see posts from Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, or Michaelangelo.
>>>
>>>If you believe Lifton’s theory, explain how he could claim all the shooters were in front of the President, yet never bother to explain how Connally’s wounds, like the President’s, pointed to a shooter from behind.
>>>
>>>I confronted him with that question 30 years ago in a conference in Dallas. He said he would explain it in his next book. He never did. Perhaps you can try.
>>>
>>>Were Connally’s wounds altered to point to a shooter from behind?
>>>
>>>Or was there actually a shooter behind the President and Governor? In which case, his premise that all the shooters were in the front is exposed as false.
>> Huckster prefers trolls to knowledgeable critics proving him a liar...
>
>No, that’s a three-part begged question logical fallacy.
>
>You haven't established:
>A. he's a troll
When you seriously have doubts that someone who stated:
"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from
the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with
poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not
a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did
something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in
his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what
should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then
Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill
credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death.
But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets
the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but
what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired
two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the
Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs,
they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those
bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>B. There are any such animal as a “Knowledgeable Critic”, since by definition they would believe in a conspiracy.
have to rely on liars for their definitions.
I declare myself a knowledgeable critic, and have in the past had
believers so stating. I could care less whether or not *you* believe
it.
>C. That I’ve been proven to be a liar.
How about your claim that the "A.B.C.D." paragraphs in the Autopsy
Report describe the location of the large wound in JFK's head?
Or that a dissection of the front of JFK's throat was ever performed?
> You are likewise invited to respond to the point raised. You won't,
> of course, other than to claim the answer is elsewhere, in some
> critic’s book.
I feel no need to "respond" to logical fallacies & lies. Other than
to point them out.
Ben Holmes
Sep 5, 2023, 2:27:22 PM9/5/23
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:04:32 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:28:16?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
>> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>>>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sky Throne:
>>>>>
>>>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>>>
>>>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
>>>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>>>> to figure out.
>>>>
>>>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>>>
>>> I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
>>> published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
>>> (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
>>> Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
>> Empty unsucppored claims are lies, according to Chickenshit.
>
>So you avoid the point entirely, and don't even attempt to discuss the points raised:
What part of "empty unsupported claims are lies, according to
Chickenshit" did you fail to understand?
DEAL WITH MY RESPONSE, AND STOP RUNNING ... COWARD!
>A. Is Sky Throne a troll? You labelled him such, but have yet to support that.
You're a moron if you believe he isn't.
>B. Do critics arguments imply unstated forces were at work to assassinate the President and frame Oswald?
No need to answer your questions - you run violently away every time
I ask you one.
Stop running coward, and I'll stop laughing at you.
>As always, you avoid a rational discussion. You're invited to participate.
Projecting again?
>>> Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued
>>> that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but
>>> that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane
>>> avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
>> The evidence *DOESN'T* support the WCR's theory.
Nonsense deleted. You can run, coward, but you can't hide.
>> I've demonstrated
>> this many times... you've run...
>>
>> You make claims...
>>
>> Then you run.
>>
>> EVERY
>>
>> SINGLE
>>
>> TIME!!!
>
>I'm here, willing to discuss Lifton’s theory.
Cite it.
Or run away again...
<hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:28:16?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Hank Sienzant
>> <hsie...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:42:30?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>>>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sky Throne:
>>>>>
>>>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>>>
>>>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook, and
>>>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>>>> to figure out.
>>>>
>>>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>>>
>>> I can't see a whole lot of difference between Sky and a lot of
>>> published conspiracy authors. They all propose outlandish scenarios
>>> (implicitly if not explicitly). I don't exclude Mark Lane, Sylvia
>>> Meagher, or Josiah Thompson from that group.
>> Empty unsucppored claims are lies, according to Chickenshit.
>
>So you avoid the point entirely, and don't even attempt to discuss the points raised:
Chickenshit" did you fail to understand?
DEAL WITH MY RESPONSE, AND STOP RUNNING ... COWARD!
>A. Is Sky Throne a troll? You labelled him such, but have yet to support that.
>B. Do critics arguments imply unstated forces were at work to assassinate the President and frame Oswald?
I ask you one.
Stop running coward, and I'll stop laughing at you.
>As always, you avoid a rational discussion. You're invited to participate.
>>> Sky just spells out in detail what he thinks happened. Lane argued
>>> that the evidence didn't support the Commission’s conclusions, but
>>> that implies certain other things must have happened, things Lane
>>> avoided explicitly stating or supporting.
>> The evidence *DOESN'T* support the WCR's theory.
>> I've demonstrated
>> this many times... you've run...
>>
>> As just one example of your cowardice, you refuse to tell us why the
>> "A.B.C.D" from the Autopsy Report describe the precise medical
>> location of the large wound in JFK's head.
>
>And that's the red herring logical fallacy (I.e., a change of subject).
You've never answered it. And coward that you are, you never will.
>> "A.B.C.D" from the Autopsy Report describe the precise medical
>> location of the large wound in JFK's head.
>
>And that's the red herring logical fallacy (I.e., a change of subject).
>> You make claims...
>>
>> Then you run.
>>
>> EVERY
>>
>> SINGLE
>>
>> TIME!!!
>
>I'm here, willing to discuss Lifton’s theory.
Or run away again...
Chuck Schuyler
Sep 5, 2023, 11:08:32 PM9/5/23
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Is Sky Throne's pronouncement about the limo driver Greer whipping out a pistol and firing it more kooky than the theory you promote, namely the one about JFK's coffin/body being directed/stolen for a secret pre-autopsy operation to change the nature of JFK's wounds to "appear" as if the shots all came from behind?
and
> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
> to figure out.
>
> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
Sky Throne 19efppp
Sep 6, 2023, 12:24:34 AM9/6/23
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:08:32 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
> > <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
> > >
> > >This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
> > >
> > >Sky Throne:
> > >
> > >"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
> > >rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
> > >
> > >Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
> > >
> > >Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>
> > This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
> The kook Sky Throne believes Oswald fired a weapon at JFK's motorcade. On the kook scale, he's less kooky than you. You believe Oswald is a totally innocent patsy.
>
> Is Sky Throne's pronouncement about the limo driver Greer whipping out a pistol and firing it more kooky than the theory you promote, namely the one about JFK's coffin/body being directed/stolen for a secret pre-autopsy operation to change the nature of JFK's wounds to "appear" as if the shots all came from behind?
That's ridiculous. The murderers had no need to steal the body. They were in full control of it from the time they shot him right through the autopsy. The body alterations were done in the aft galley of Air Force One. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBPZgGd03ZY Though the roast beef sandwiches didn't taste quite the same for the next couple weeks.
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
> > <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
> > >
> > >This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
> > >
> > >Sky Throne:
> > >
> > >"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
> > >rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
> > >
> > >Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
> > >
> > >Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>
> > This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
> The kook Sky Throne believes Oswald fired a weapon at JFK's motorcade. On the kook scale, he's less kooky than you. You believe Oswald is a totally innocent patsy.
>
> Is Sky Throne's pronouncement about the limo driver Greer whipping out a pistol and firing it more kooky than the theory you promote, namely the one about JFK's coffin/body being directed/stolen for a secret pre-autopsy operation to change the nature of JFK's wounds to "appear" as if the shots all came from behind?
John Corbett
Sep 6, 2023, 8:24:13 AM9/6/23
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:08:32 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
theory of the assassination. It would be very hard to pick a winner.
There are only two kinds of people who believe Oswald was innocent. Either they are unfamiliar
with the evidence against him or they are just plain nuts. Sky Throne's theory that Oswald was
the GK shooter is equally nutty as those who proclaim him to be an innocent patsy.
Ben Holmes
Sep 6, 2023, 10:28:58 AM9/6/23
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 20:08:30 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:42:30?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>
>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>
>>>Sky Throne:
>>>
>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>
>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>
>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>
>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
>
>The kook Sky Throne...
You see? Chuckles AGREES with me!
>> and I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>> to figure out.
>>
>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
Logical fallacy deleted.
Anyone who thinks Gil & I are in the same league as this troll are
simply showing their inability to reason... nothing more.
<chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:42:30?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>
>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>
>>>Sky Throne:
>>>
>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>
>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>
>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>
>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
>
You see? Chuckles AGREES with me!
>> and I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>> to figure out.
>>
>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
Anyone who thinks Gil & I are in the same league as this troll are
simply showing their inability to reason... nothing more.
Ben Holmes
Sep 6, 2023, 10:31:04 AM9/6/23
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 05:24:11 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:08:32?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
>There are only two kinds of people who believe Oswald was innocent. Either they are unfamiliar
>with the evidence against him or they are just plain nuts. Sky Throne's theory that Oswald was
>the GK shooter is equally nutty as those who proclaim him to be an innocent patsy.
I *KNOW* that you'll refuse to name this logical fallacy. That makes
you a dishonest coward.
I wonder why Huckster isn't pointing these out?
<geowri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:08:32?PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:42:30?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>>
>>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>>
>>>>Sky Throne:
>>>>
>>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>>
>>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>>
>>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>
>>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
>> The kook Sky Throne believes Oswald fired a weapon at JFK's motorcade. On the kook scale, he's less kooky than you. You believe Oswald is a totally innocent patsy.
>>
>> Is Sky Throne's pronouncement about the limo driver Greer whipping out a pistol and firing it more kooky than the theory you promote, namely the one about JFK's coffin/body being directed/stolen for a secret pre-autopsy operation to change the nature of JFK's wounds to "appear" as if the shots all came from behind?
>> and
>>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>>> to figure out.
>>>
>>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>> You are as nutty as he is. There isn't a dime's difference between any of your hobby points.
>
>Sometimes it seems the CTs are in competition with each other to come up with the nuttiest
>theory of the assassination. It would be very hard to pick a winner.
A simple logical fallacy... can you name it?
>>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
>>> <chucksch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From "The Kooks Have All The Advantages" thread:
>>>>
>>>>This is the finest post I've ever read at this board. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize.
>>>>
>>>>Sky Throne:
>>>>
>>>>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably
>>>>rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."
>>>>
>>>>Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!
>>>>
>>>>Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!
>>
>>> This is why Chuckles can't reason. This troll is clearly a kook,
>> The kook Sky Throne believes Oswald fired a weapon at JFK's motorcade. On the kook scale, he's less kooky than you. You believe Oswald is a totally innocent patsy.
>>
>> Is Sky Throne's pronouncement about the limo driver Greer whipping out a pistol and firing it more kooky than the theory you promote, namely the one about JFK's coffin/body being directed/stolen for a secret pre-autopsy operation to change the nature of JFK's wounds to "appear" as if the shots all came from behind?
>> and
>>> I killfiled him almost the same day he appeared - it wasn't difficult
>>> to figure out.
>>>
>>> But Chuckles can't figure it out. He **NEEDS** nutcases like this.
>> You are as nutty as he is. There isn't a dime's difference between any of your hobby points.
>
>Sometimes it seems the CTs are in competition with each other to come up with the nuttiest
>theory of the assassination. It would be very hard to pick a winner.
>There are only two kinds of people who believe Oswald was innocent. Either they are unfamiliar
>with the evidence against him or they are just plain nuts. Sky Throne's theory that Oswald was
>the GK shooter is equally nutty as those who proclaim him to be an innocent patsy.
you a dishonest coward.
I wonder why Huckster isn't pointing these out?
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