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Time to let this sick-insufferable group of Lone Nutter's pass on...

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aeffects

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:42:17 AM3/27/08
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to oblivion -- I'm done with'em... Its hasn't even been fun, funny at
times yes, but not fun. They (this batch of Lone Nuts) haven't a clue
when it comes to the assassination of JFK. Its obvious they're second
rate disinfo wannabes.... When it comes to latter-day USENET Lone
Nutter's, Von Pein and company weren't give much to work with. In fact
it's the dumbest group of Nutter's I've witnessed over 15 years...

The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
[Francis] Kennedy stands... reiterating the findings of the only
government investigation into the death of JFK....

cdddraftsman

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:35:10 AM3/27/08
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You big time loser , your low life ass is not going anywhere except
hell for betraying your country because YOUR MOMMA DIDN'T COMB YOUR
HAIR IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION , it grew inwards and strangled your brain
of oxygen !
So just in case you run off somewhere , to some gay retreat for Muslim
Butt Sniffers answer the question hillbilly ! :

Who did it BOZO ? :

LBJ SS FBI DEA Homo's TUM Castro Oswald Imposter
Military Industrial Complex Nellie JBC Big Texas Oil Diem
French(Sarti) Mafia/Mob KGB ATF Raul White Stugis
Carswell Dolye Piranti Bass Foyle Koysikian Diaz Factor
Carlos Gedney del Vallee Bocononi Rogers Wise Bloomer
Cain Rosselli Hunt Greer Nicolleti Rivera Lawrence Hertz
Patrick Files Carelis Abrams Badgeman Black Dog Man
Hicks Holt Hickey Yares Gains or maybe Wallace ?

OK big mouth KNOLL it all were did they fire from : The Limo Trunk?
The Overpass?
The Grassy Knoll? The Picket Fence ?
The Storm Drain? The Pergola? Any window in the TSBD except where the
rifle was found? (*) The Dal-Tex-Building 2nd Floor? The Dal-Tex-
Building Roof? The Court House? The SS Follow Up Car? The Driver of
JFK's Limo?
The Umbrella Near The Stemmons Frwy Sign ?

A big mouthed idiot such as yourself should be able to answer these
Q's :

OK big mouth KNOLL it all were did they fire from :

The Limo Trunk? The Overpass? The Grassy Knoll? The Picket
Fence ? The Storm Drain? The Pergola? Any window in the
TSBD except where the rifle was found? The Dal-Tex-Building 2nd
Floor? The Dal-Tex-Building Roof? The Court House? The SS Follow
Up Car? The Driver of JFK's Limo? The Umbrella Near The Stemmons
Frwy Sign ?

Come on ROFLMAO your laughing so hard it's making you cry , maybe you
can take a break from laughing and tell us how many shots were
fired :

The people you support say JFK was shot at : One Two 3..........WCR
We Will Exclude Four Five Six Seven Eight Nine Ten
Eleven Twelve Thirteen Fourteen or Fifteen x's ?

We need another good laugh !

:-)

tl

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:41:00 AM3/27/08
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*Star Spangled Banner plays softly in the background*

Another farewell speech? This is becoming a weekly habit. Don't
anyone get excited, within a few hours Healy will be back. Could it be
all the drugs have finally worn off and he's realized what an ass hes
been? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh,
he needs to pretend he's leaving till the questions addressed to him
about his lies cease. The bigger question is, will Holmes be able to
survive without the barking of his lapdog to lie for him?

Bud

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Mar 27, 2008, 7:17:45 AM3/27/08
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aeffects wrote:
> to oblivion -- I'm done with'em...

Done? Had you started? Was that your "A" game?

> Its hasn't even been fun, funny at
> times yes, but not fun. They (this batch of Lone Nuts) haven't a clue
> when it comes to the assassination of JFK.

This batch of LN seems to have sucked all the enjoyment you derived
from this stupid hobby. Thats called winning, son.

> Its obvious they're second
> rate disinfo wannabes....

And you let yourself be whupped by this? What would first rate
wannabe disinfo agents do to you?

>When it comes to latter-day USENET Lone
> Nutter's, Von Pein and company weren't give much to work with. In fact
> it's the dumbest group of Nutter's I've witnessed over 15 years...

This is like one of Tyson`s knock-out victims saying "He wasn`t so
tough".

> The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
> [Francis] Kennedy stands...

Yah, one definition of "stand" is set or fixed. Conspiracy is
definately that, dead in the water with nowhere to go.

> reiterating the findings of the only
> government investigation into the death of JFK....

There was more than one investigation, stump.

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Ben Holmes

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Mar 27, 2008, 10:15:47 AM3/27/08
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In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...

I suspect that the disappearance of the better informed LNT'ers has been
directly as a result of better informed CT'ers. We know the evidence far better
today than we did in the past - too much information has been released,
particularly by the ARRB. The better informed LNT'ers have run in mass to the
censored group - they can't stand against the evidence, and they know it. So
all that remains is the dregs of humanity.

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 10:59:53 AM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 10:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf-a4ed-6a0c2d108...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

Mr. Holmes is flattering himself, as usual.

As I pointed out in one of my earliest posts here, there are no
civil, sensible "CT'rs" with whom to discuss the evidence in this
case. Mr. Holmes, among others, have more than proved my point, but
Mr. Holmes went one step further when he took a post I put up and took
the liberty of changing words that I had orginally typed to suit his
purposes, when he responded to it. This is what is known as
*dishonesty* on his part. He says he dislikes "cowards, liars and
dishonest" people, so, my guess is, he can't stand himself.

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 11:28:23 AM3/27/08
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> dishonest" people, so, my guess is, he can't stand himself.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Holmes has to make an excuse for Healy...afterall Healy has made a
total ass of himself supporting and defending Holmes in all his lies.
If Holmes thinks of himself as a grade "A" ct, then why is he posting
on a forum that he claims is full of misfits? The only misfits here
are the ones that don't post on more educated forums because they
would be a laughing stock and humiliated worse then they are on this
group.
Nice try Holmes, with or without your lapdog, you still a lying
coward.

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aeffects

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Mar 27, 2008, 12:48:58 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 7:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf-a4ed-6a0c2d108...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

you Ben have had more to do with the recent collapse of the Nutters
(during the past 6 years) than most. The best opportunity Nutter's
had, was planting a strategic Lone Nutter's at alt.conspiracy.jfk...
that didn't work, mostly due to your efforts - you pushed them *center
alt.conspiracy.jfk stage*. Most are back at .johns, where they
belong...

The only Lone Nut fools-folley remaining on this board is Vince
Bugliosi adherents... the Nutter's last hope, that hope now is in the
hands of HBO... right where we want it.....

The lurkers who have remained in contact with me over the years want
to express their gratitude, "simply: thank you for you effort,
knowledge and concise argument[s], the presentation of case evidence,
testimony, photo/film record (mine: or displaying the manipulation or
lack thereof)"... I concur fully!

Lurkers wishing to be better informed concerning the assassination
need to go here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280212032422

Get these CD's... indexed, book-markable and search-able -- in .pdf
form.

in short:

The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald

Kennedy STANDS... reiterating the findings of the only


government investigation into the death of JFK....

I'll be in-touch...

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 1:01:38 PM3/27/08
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> I'll be in-touch...- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Wonder who typed that little message for him? Probably Holmes lol. If
Healys head was any farther up Holmes butt, he'd suffocate. This is
too funny....one liar telling another they are the reason Conspiracy
lives. We all knew the lapdog would be back within a few hours. What a
sick bastard. I'll make sure and bump Healys JFK comments to the top
so the lurkers can see the real side of him....

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 1:19:14 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 12:48 pm, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll be in-touch...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL! The traffic through this speck of dust in the corner, isn't worth
mentioning, Mr. Healy.
There are so few postings that go in here, you should be happy with
the fact that "lone nutters" *are* here. With whom are you going to
"discuss" the case with, were it not for the "lone nutters" here? You
"CT''s" scarcely talk to each other. What have you got in numbers as
far as CT'rs here? You, Walt, Mr. Rossely,Gil Jesus, Robcap, Mr.
Holmes, on occasion... Whom did I leave out?

I seldom see any of you conversing with each other, and, what would
you talk about if there were no "lone nutters" here? Your conspiracy
theories? Mr. Rossley is just begging for someone to "discuss the
evidence" with. At whose mercy is he? If it were those like you and
the others mentioned, why doesn't he ignore the posts by the "LN" and
"discuss the case" with any one of you? No one is stopping him from
discussing the case with you other conspiracy believers here.

What would you be doing if you didn't have "LN's" to use your
vulgarity on, each day?

Whom would Ben Holmes have to take out his frustrations on when he
comes here?

I'd say you have it all backwards, Holmes and Healy. The "LN" have
yanked the chain of the "CT'' so many times that it brought out the
worst in each and every one of you, and you have displayed all your
fits of outrage for everyone to see, so much so, that no one will ever
take any of you seriously, unless, of course, it is someone with the
mentality level of Nigel Turner, who produced the laughable "Who
killed Kennedy?" series.

I don't believe for a moment that you have any "lurkers" remaining
with you, Mr. Healy. But, if there are, clearly, they have the same
mindset as yourself. And that's not saying anything.

Bud

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Mar 27, 2008, 1:50:20 PM3/27/08
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aeffects wrote:
> On Mar 27, 7:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> > In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf-a4ed-6a0c2d108...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > aeffects says...
> >
> >
> >
> > >to oblivion -- I'm done with'em... Its hasn't even been fun, funny at
> > >times yes, but not fun. They (this batch of Lone Nuts) haven't a clue
> > >when it comes to the assassination of JFK. Its obvious they're second
> > >rate disinfo wannabes.... When it comes to latter-day USENET Lone
> > >Nutter's, Von Pein and company weren't give much to work with. In fact
> > >it's the dumbest group of Nutter's I've witnessed over 15 years...
> >
> > >The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
> > >[Francis] Kennedy stands... reiterating the findings of the only
> > >government investigation into the death of JFK....
> >
> > I suspect that the disappearance of the better informed LNT'ers has been
> > directly as a result of better informed CT'ers. We know the evidence far better
> > today than we did in the past - too much information has been released,
> > particularly by the ARRB. The better informed LNT'ers have run in mass to the
> > censored group - they can't stand against the evidence, and they know it. So
> > all that remains is the dregs of humanity.
>
> you Ben have had more to do with the recent collapse of the Nutters
> (during the past 6 years) than most.

Since when is the ostrich the king of beasts?

>The best opportunity Nutter's
> had, was planting a strategic Lone Nutter's at alt.conspiracy.jfk...
> that didn't work, mostly due to your efforts - you pushed them *center
> alt.conspiracy.jfk stage*. Most are back at .johns, where they
> belong...

Kooks can devise a crackpot theory for any occasion.

> The only Lone Nut fools-folley remaining on this board is Vince
> Bugliosi adherents... the Nutter's last hope, that hope now is in the
> hands of HBO... right where we want it.....

All part of your cunning plan to allow the public access to thye
truth?

> The lurkers who have remained in contact with me over the years want
> to express their gratitude,

<snicker> Stop with the imaginary lurkers, kook, no one is buying
it. You are Ben`s lone disciple.

> "simply: thank you for you effort,
> knowledge and concise argument[s], the presentation of case evidence,
> testimony, photo/film record (mine: or displaying the manipulation or
> lack thereof)"... I concur fully!
>
> Lurkers wishing to be better informed concerning the assassination
> need to go here

http://rocksnsucks.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/hell.jpg

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280212032422
>
> Get these CD's... indexed, book-markable and search-able -- in .pdf
> form.
>
> in short:
>
> The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
> Kennedy STANDS...

...still.

>reiterating the findings of the only
> government investigation into the death of JFK....
>
> I'll be in-touch...

Wear something rubber...

tomnln

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:15:12 PM3/27/08
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<Burly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How nice of you to bring up my name Burly.

FYI;
My preferance has Always been to discuss the evidence/testimony with LN's.

I never depend on opinions of CT's/LN's

I repeatedly use the "official records" of the>>>
WC's 26 volumes
Church Comittee's 14 volumes
HSCA's 12 volumes

ALL records of the U S Government.

NONE of which you seem to be familiar with.

Should you ever wanna address your own evidence/testimony, you can Start
HERE>>>

http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm

http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm

Up until now, like all other LN's you seem to RUN from them.

American Justice allows for the Adversary Procedure.
Nazi Justice does NOT allow for the Adversary Procedure.

Which one are you Endorsing?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:36:38 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 2:15 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> <BurlyGu...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Glad you think so, Mr. Rossley.


>
> FYI;
> My preferance has Always been to discuss the evidence/testimony with LN's.

I know. I just pointed out the fact that you are at the mercy of
the "LN''.


>
> I never depend on opinions of CT's/LN's

Okay...and your point, please?


>
> I repeatedly use the "official records" of the>>>
> WC's 26 volumes
> Church Comittee's 14 volumes
> HSCA's 12 volumes
>
> ALL records of the U S Government.

But, wait a minute...according you and your co. these "government
official records" are all "lies". Which is it?

>
> NONE of which you seem to be familiar with.

Oh, believe me , sir, I am very "familiar" with them.


>
> Should you ever wanna address your own evidence/testimony, you can Start
> HERE>>>

Since when is the evidence/testimony attributed to "me"? I didn't
testify.

>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
> Up until now, like all other LN's you seem to RUN from them.

Mr. Rossley...I am really tiring from having to repeat myself over
this matter you bring up.

I have told you time and time again. There are no civil, or sensible
conspiracy theorists to "discuss" the evidence with. Please write
that down.

>
> American Justice allows for the Adversary Procedure.
> Nazi Justice does NOT allow for the Adversary Procedure.
>
> Which one are you Endorsing?

Which one are *you* endorsing?

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -

Ben Holmes

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:18:27 PM3/27/08
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In article <3f1f3c5d-9a51-4e8e...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...

>
>On Mar 27, 7:15 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
>>In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf-a4ed-6a0c2d108...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>> aeffects says...
>>
>>
>>
>> >to oblivion -- I'm done with'em... Its hasn't even been fun, funny at
>> >times yes, but not fun. They (this batch of Lone Nuts) haven't a clue
>> >when it comes to the assassination of JFK. Its obvious they're second
>> >rate disinfo wannabes.... When it comes to latter-day USENET Lone
>> >Nutter's, Von Pein and company weren't give much to work with. In fact
>> >it's the dumbest group of Nutter's I've witnessed over 15 years...
>>
>> >The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
>> >[Francis] Kennedy stands... reiterating the findings of the only
>> >government investigation into the death of JFK....
>>
>> I suspect that the disappearance of the better informed LNT'ers has been
>> directly as a result of better informed CT'ers. We know the evidence
>> far better today than we did in the past - too much information has
>> been released, particularly by the ARRB. The better informed LNT'ers
>> have run in mass to the censored group - they can't stand against the
>> evidence, and they know it. So all that remains is the dregs of humanity.
>
>you Ben have had more to do with the recent collapse of the Nutters
>(during the past 6 years) than most.

Ouch! My hat is getting too tight!

>The best opportunity Nutter's
>had, was planting a strategic Lone Nutter's at alt.conspiracy.jfk...
>that didn't work, mostly due to your efforts - you pushed them *center
>alt.conspiracy.jfk stage*. Most are back at .johns, where they
>belong...

Another factor is what I like to call the "LNT'ers in CT'ers clothing", such as
Tony and Martin... those who are willing to use the same ideas and tactics as
the LNT'er crowd, yet proclaim their belief in a conspiracy.

They rarely post here anymore. I really don't care whether someone claims to be
a LNT'er or a CT'er - you either treat the evidence the same way that any
intelligent person treats it, or I'll point it out. Tony, Martin, and Robert
are examples of CT'ers (or presumed CT'ers) who accept photographic evidence
with a dubious record as having more substance than eyewitness reports - even if
it's multiple eyewitnesses that corroborate each other.

For example, you just can't get around the fact of where the large wound
(presumably of exit) existed on JFK's head. The photos & X-rays simply do *NOT*
have eyewitness corroboration. Yet there are some self-asserted CT'ers who take
this very dubious evidence over the many eyewitnesses.

Another example would be the description of Tippit's killer - there are just too
many eyewitnesses who assert that the killer had dark colored hair. There comes
a point when such evidence merges with the problematic timeframe, the lack of
any chain of evidence for the cartridges, the evidence of an automatic being
used, and so much else that all fits together to demonstrate a frameup.

Most people can easily see this...

>The only Lone Nut fools-folley remaining on this board is Vince
>Bugliosi adherents... the Nutter's last hope, that hope now is in the
>hands of HBO... right where we want it.....


Are you speaking of the same Bugliosi who argued for a JFK & RFK conspiracy in
court? The same Bugliosi that *proved* a conspiracy in the RFK case? That guy?

robcap...@netscape.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:27:44 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 10:59 am, BurlyGu...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm here Burly, and I'll be very civil. I don't have to be rude as
all the evidence is in my favor. I'm not rude by nature either,
unless someone is to me than I do lose my temper sometimes
unfortuantely. I try NOT to though and promise to remain very civil
to you so please, let's discuss the case and the evidence.

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 5:05:24 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 3:27 pm, "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Healy sent me this post on the thread he started about me....does
anyone have any idea what the hell hes talking about? This guy is one
huge sicko:

when your face *less* resembles 20 miles of bad assed road Crone, so
> take heart. Not knowing when your reason to live leaves this board is
> tough to handle, eh? LMFAO! I'm here to serve and protect the less
> fortunate on this board, that means your sorry ass soul.... hold your
> breath Crone, it might be tomorrow, I'm gone....... regardless I want
> you back here daily, the rest of your pitiful life....- Hide quoted text -


>
> - Show quoted text -

Healy? I have no fking idea what you just typed nor do I care. If
you're not going to get the hell out of here then stop your whining
about how your leaving. NO ONE gives a rats ass whether you stay or
go. If you stay we'll continue to humiliate you for the horses ass you
are. You're our entertainment and everyone loves being able to show
what a damn fool you are. So stick around toots...the best is yet to
come.

tomnln

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Mar 27, 2008, 5:51:08 PM3/27/08
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<Burly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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TRANSLATION;

Burley's position is NOT "Defensible".

http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm

http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----------------------------------------------------------

aeffects

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:08:12 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 12:18 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <3f1f3c5d-9a51-4e8e-9c51-fdc033c84...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

that be the guy, THEE guy!

Bud

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:24:07 PM3/27/08
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Kooks take the dubious witnesses over the evidence. Burkley was at
both at the hospita; and the autopsy, and he said the wounds at both
locations appeared the same. The difference was that at the autopsy,
they were conducting an autopsy.

> Another example would be the description of Tippit's killer - there are just too
> many eyewitnesses who assert that the killer had dark colored hair.

Yet many still picked Oz out of line-ups. Would they pick a person
if they didn`t think it was the person they saw?

> There comes
> a point when such evidence merges with the problematic timeframe,

No problems if you stick with the established times.

> the lack of
> any chain of evidence for the cartridges,

Kooks always want to throw out evidence.

> the evidence of an automatic being
> used,

Shell dispersal and witness testimony at the scene indicates a
revolver was used.

> and so much else that all fits together to demonstrate a frameup.

Only if you think that everyone in charge of every aspect of the
investigation was in on the frame-up of an innocent man for the murder
of a police officer. Everyone from the cop who took the prints, the
arresting officers of Oz, the police dispatchers, just everyone
involved in every aspect of this wanted the murderer of police
officer to go free. A silly concept embraced by idiots.

> Most people can easily see this...

Those people are kooks.

> >The only Lone Nut fools-folley remaining on this board is Vince
> >Bugliosi adherents... the Nutter's last hope, that hope now is in the
> >hands of HBO... right where we want it.....
>
>
> Are you speaking of the same Bugliosi who argued for a JFK & RFK conspiracy in
> court?

In court. As a lawyer representing a client, not as a person
expressing his opinions.

> The same Bugliosi that *proved* a conspiracy in the RFK case?

Bugs proved Sirhan Sirhan worked as part of a conspiracy?

David Von Pein

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:32:31 PM3/27/08
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>>> "Bugs proved Sirhan Sirhan worked as part of a conspiracy?" <<<


Holmes knows very well that Bugliosi did no such thing, of course. Ben
The Kook just likes to repeat things he knows are false, over and over
again.

Ben Holmes

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Mar 27, 2008, 7:56:55 PM3/27/08
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In article <ff1901a0-f577-44c8...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
robcap...@netscape.com says...
>
>On Mar 27, 10:59=A0am, BurlyGu...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 10:15=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <069ada68-2a12-4acf-a4ed-6a0c2d108...@s19g2000prg.googlegroup=

>s.com>,
>> > aeffects says...
>>
>> > >to oblivion -- I'm done with'em... Its hasn't even been fun, funny at
>> > >times yes, but not fun. =A0They (this batch of Lone Nuts) haven't a clu=

>e
>> > >when it comes to the assassination of JFK. Its obvious they're second
>> > >rate disinfo wannabes.... When it comes to latter-day USENET Lone
>> > >Nutter's, Von Pein and company weren't give much to work with. In fact
>> > >it's the dumbest group of Nutter's I've witnessed over 15 years...
>>
>> > >The case for C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y in the death of John Fitzgerald
>> > >[Francis] Kennedy stands... reiterating the findings of the only
>> > >government investigation into the death of JFK....
>>
>> > I suspect that the disappearance of the better informed LNT'ers has been=
>
>> > directly as a result of better informed CT'ers. =A0We know the evidence =

>far better
>> > today than we did in the past - too much information has been released,
>> > particularly by the ARRB. =A0The better informed LNT'ers have run in mas=
>s to the
>> > censored group - they can't stand against the evidence, and they know it=
>. =A0So

>> > all that remains is the dregs of humanity.
>>
>> =A0Mr. Holmes is flattering himself, as usual.

>>
>
>"As I pointed out in one of my earliest posts here, there are no
>civil, sensible "CT'rs" with whom to discuss the evidence in this
>case. Mr. Holmes, among others, have more than proved my point, but
>Mr. Holmes went one step further when he took a post I put up and took
>the liberty of changing words that I had orginally typed to suit his
>purposes, when he responded to it. This is what is known as
>*dishonesty* on his part. =A0He says he dislikes "cowards, liars and

>dishonest" people, so, my guess is, he can't stand himself."
>
>I'm here Burly, and I'll be very civil. I don't have to be rude as
>all the evidence is in my favor. I'm not rude by nature either,
>unless someone is to me than I do lose my temper sometimes
>unfortuantely. I try NOT to though and promise to remain very civil
>to you so please, let's discuss the case and the evidence.


The troll likes to try claiming that no CT'er is civil or sensible - but of
course all he's really saying is that he can't debate 'em.

And *that* is provable - since BurlyGuard can't cite a *SINGLE* example of any
real debate with a CT'er.

And since polls consistently put CT'ers as the over-riding majority of
Americans, all BurlyGuard is saying is that the majority of Americans aren't
'civil' or 'sensible'...

justm...@gmail.com

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On Mar 27, 7:56 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <ff1901a0-f577-44c8-82a4-df9f62591...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> 'civil' or 'sensible'...- Hide quoted text -

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Burly said there is NO ONE on this group thats civil or sensible to
debate....again you prove what a lying coward you are by twisting his
words around.

Bud

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Mar 27, 2008, 8:37:41 PM3/27/08
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Can you give an example of a civil CT?

> And since polls consistently put CT'ers as the over-riding majority of
> Americans, all BurlyGuard is saying is that the majority of Americans aren't
> 'civil' or 'sensible'...

Of course that isn`t what he is saying, that is your own kook spin.

Walt

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Mar 27, 2008, 8:48:51 PM3/27/08
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Hey Just use me.... Do you ever post anything pertinent? I've yet to
see you enter a debate .....all I've ever seen you do is attack the
messenger.

Message has been deleted

aeffects

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On Mar 27, 5:02 pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

relax Crone, we don't want you to drifting out of menopause

aeffects

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On Mar 27, 10:01 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

i love looooooooonnnnnnngggggggggg good-byes dont you, Crone?

tims...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2008, 3:51:23 AM3/28/08
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So you quitting or what, Toots-E-Roll?

You STILL haven't addressed one substantive point in relation to
Holmes's *Yellow Legs Lady* Z film alteration theory, Healy.

Z film alteration is one of your precious *sixteen* smoking guns,
ain't it Toots-E-Roll?

Everyone here can see that you and Ben are not prepared to discuss the
matter, though try and pretend everybody else is too cowardly.

You're a joke, Toots-E-Roll.

Just like your Z film alteration nonsense is a joke.

Concerned Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

justm...@gmail.com

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Walt, you also have the mind of a turnip, I've had discussions with
you about a few different subjects and as soon as I posted a fact that
proved you were wrong you shut up and went on your merry way to spew
another one of your idiotic theories. Unlike the rest of the kooks
here, you're different. You have ALL the answers and in your feeble
mind they are fact and exactly what happened. That takes you out of
the list of civil CTs. There is no discussing with you, because as
soon as someone finds evidence that proves your theory is bs...you
throw a little tantrum and run.
Any questions?

justm...@gmail.com

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This isn't a longggggggggg goodbye, this is just another one of your
lies to get attention. Must have been a slow week on hooker highway,
either that or the welfare check was late and you couldn't buy your
case of ripple.

justm...@gmail.com

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You're right Tim, this was just Healys way of taking all attention off
the fact that he and Holmes were both caught in lies. He figures if he
starts a stupid thread and has everyone posting on it, they will
forget about "Yellow Legs" and the Four Days "galley proofs". Healy
had his big girl panties on again protecting his master the Sadam look
a like Holmes. It's not the first time hes done this and it won't be
the last. And they call the LNs dishonest and trolls lol.

Burly...@gmail.com

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On Mar 27, 7:56 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <ff1901a0-f577-44c8-82a4-df9f62591...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,


Not only did you take one of my posts and change the words in it
when responding( and got caught), Mr. Holmes, now you are trying to
change the meaning of something I stated! This reveals even more,
what a dishonest character you truly are!

If Americans believe the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, that is
one thing. That does not define them as a "conspiracy theorist".
Where do you come up with this stuff?!

The " theorist" (CT) is one who theorizes. One who believes the
assassination was the result of a conspiracy is one who simply
believes that it was a conspiracy. I thought you an intelligent guy,
but I guess I was wrong.

Many, many people I know believe it was a conspiracy, but not a
single one of them know the case well enough to actually come up with
their own "theory" as to how it happened. They actually have a life,
and the assassination is something that happened 45 years ago to them,
and they could care less about it. Therefore, they voice their
opinion that they believe it was a conspiracy, but this doesn't
classify them as a "conspiracy theorist", and you had better look up
the definition of the word "theorist" and "theorize" before you dig
yourself in any deeper, Mr. Holmes.

cdddraftsman

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Mar 28, 2008, 9:06:55 AM3/28/08
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Good post . To add insult to injury (My usual form BTW) none of these
characters come close to theorists because their actually only
'working hypothesis' that never left that stage . AAMOF all CT's from
day one have never left that stage , they are not even theorists at
all .

:-( Paste Sad Faced Bopped Clowny CT Face Here )-:

tl

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2008, 9:37:01 AM3/28/08
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Please don't insult my intelligence, sir.

How long do you honestly think it would be before one of the uncivil
CT posters here chimed in, only to start the attack? It isn't possible
to carry on a civil, sensible conversation here, which is my whole
point. The "CT" is at the mercy of the "LN" because they have no
others to discuss the evidence with, but when the "LN" agrees to
"discuss" the evidence, the personal attacks begin, from all
directions.


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tomnln

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aeffects

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Mar 28, 2008, 1:25:14 PM3/28/08
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On Mar 28, 12:51 am, timst...@gmail.com wrote:
> TOP POST
>
> So you quitting or what, Toots-E-Roll?

ahh, another Lone Nut weenie that doesn't like long good-byes.....
ROTFLMFAO, Y-A-N-K that aussies chain....


<snip the rest of the neuters diatribe>

aeffects

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Mar 28, 2008, 1:30:35 PM3/28/08
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On Mar 28, 5:29 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

even the skank can't deal with the fact that there are 2 books titled
Four Days -- Four Days and Four *DARK* Day's .... galleys and page
proofs of both (not to mention first editions, too).... now if the
nutter's have some money and balls.... LMFAO...

C'mon Crone batter up one last time.... Brennan's a fucking idiot,
sent here to cover your sorry, incompetent ass.... you want to do a
hummer on him, do it on your personal time.... so get those false
teeth back in your head, you got some Lone Nut idiocy to take care of
here.....ROTFLMFAO!

justm...@gmail.com

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> here.....ROTFLMFAO!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

translation please? All I can figure out is the above jumble
translates to my name is David Healy and I'm a fking idiot.

aeffects

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keep coming back Crone, it does get better..... ROTFLMFAO

Ben Holmes

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In article <78359846-9483-4063...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...
>> You're right Tim, this was just Healys way of taking all attention off
>> the fact that he and Holmes were both caught in lies.


And yet, you can't quote any such "lie" and provide the citation that makes it
so.

How many times have I written the same sentence?


>> He figures if he
>> starts a stupid thread and has everyone posting on it, they will
>> forget about "Yellow Legs"


As I recall, you *admitted* that there were three people in the relevant Nix
frame... yet was unwilling to state that those trolls who asserted that there
were only two people in that same frame were wrong.

"Truth" is a very relative quantity among trolls.


>> and the Four Days "galley proofs". Healy
>> had his big girl panties on again protecting his master the Sadam look
>> a like Holmes.


What statement of mine did he "protect?"


>> It's not the first time hes done this and it won't be
>> the last. And they call the LNs dishonest and trolls lol.


It's not the first time you've run from this question, nor will it be the last.

Trolls aren't willing to support their own statements - they generally aren't
supportable.

tomnln

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justme wrote;

>> translation please? All I can figure out is the above jumble
>> translates to my name is David Healy and I'm a fking idiot.

aeffercts wrote;

> keep coming back Crone, it does get better..... ROTFLMFAO

I write;

justme wrote;

Hey Rossley, now that your grandson is out of High School is he still
into wrestling? He must like touching other boys huh? Wouldn't it be
pretty day funny if your grandson what a little sissy boy? Would you
disown him and call him names like you do to Sam? You have to be the
biggest ignorant bastard I've ever seen. No go have another drink and
drop dead...I will no longer respond to you and your filth. You're
worthless, and the only ones that condone your filth are Healy and
Jesus, because their pigs too. Seeya white trash.


Looks like justme has a "Trojan" memory;

BOTH made of Rubber.
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muc...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2008, 7:23:57 PM3/28/08
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On 28 Mar., 20:04, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> In article <78359846-9483-4063-8319-a522d1d90...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >> You're right Tim, this was just Healys way of taking all attention off
> >> the fact that he and Holmes were both caught in lies.
>
> And yet, you can't quote any such "lie" and provide the citation that makes it
> so.

See below.

> How many times have I written the same sentence?
>
> >> He figures if he
> >> starts a stupid thread and has everyone posting on it, they will
> >> forget about "Yellow Legs"
>
> As I recall, you *admitted* that there were three people in the relevant Nix
> frame... yet was unwilling to state that those trolls who asserted that there
> were only two people in that same frame were wrong.

No one has asserted that. Your question was: (quote) The Zapruder film
shows how many people in the grass at Z-377? How many people does the
Nix film show in the same location? (unquote)

I repeat: in the same location[s]. Not in the same frame. Get your
lies straight.

That "Yellow Pants Lady" in Nix occupies a spot of grass never filmed
by Zapruder has been explained to you ad nauseam by Tim and others
(including me). Healy ignores posts that debunk your silly alteration
argument, and you pretend that they don't exist.

> "Truth" is a very relative quantity among trolls.
>
> >> and the Four Days "galley proofs". Healy
> >> had his big girl panties on again protecting his master the Sadam look
> >> a like Holmes.
>
> What statement of mine did he "protect?"

As previously explained, he *was* protecting you (in a general way) by
trying to sabotage a thread seeking your help in pointing out the lady
wearing yellow pants. When Tim chimed in with a reference to a Nix
frame reproduced in "Four Days," your lapdog attacked him by falsely
claiming the book to be in b/w. In a pathetic attempt to save face,
Healy later claimed to own a rare b/w galley proof of the book - and
who backed him up? You did...

> >> It's not the first time hes done this and it won't be
> >> the last. And they call the LNs dishonest and trolls lol.
>
> It's not the first time you've run from this question, nor will it be the last.
>
> Trolls aren't willing to support their own statements - they generally aren't
> supportable.

Are you willing to support *your* theory that "Yellow Pants Lady"
proves Zapruder and/or Nix film alteration?

I sincerely doubt it.

-Mark

tims...@gmail.com

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LOL! Now Healy is trying to pretend he was confused and was talking
about the 1963 publication *Four Dark Days In History* as opposed to
the 1964 UPI book *Four Days*.

That won't work, Toots-E-Roll. You made something of the UPI
connection when you told your first lie about having a galley proof
copy of *Four Days*.

I clearly said *Four Days* right from the get go, pal. Has it taken
you a week or so to think of this latest excuse?

Dubious Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

> here.....ROTFLMFAO!- Hide quoted text -

aeffects

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Mar 29, 2008, 3:14:54 AM3/29/08
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ROFLMFAO -- what-a-wanker... You should have no problem finding a cite
that Four Days b&w galleys and page proofs were not produced. You have
been in touch with the publisher, yes? Ahh, I thought so.....

And skank, have you ever heard of Four *DARK* Days? Produced in b&w...

Why are these Lone Nut dolts so easy....? None of the fools have any
money either....

justm...@gmail.com

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Tim,
That was Healys reason for his speech about leaving the group. He had
to go on a crusade to find something he could use to try and cover up
his lies he was nailed on. He doesn't have any brains, everyone can
see right thru him. Just look at his above response. Trying to cover
his ass again and he still doesn't make any sense. How the hell has
this moron survived for 63 years? Well, actually he hasn't...living in
a 590 ft rat trap apartment in the slums of Vegas and being on welfare
is all he has left to offer. Spends that check on drugs and booze. No
wonder he lives in Vegas, it's cheap and he can relate to the hookers
and scum that walk the streets...he's one of them.

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 29, 2008, 8:39:55 AM3/29/08
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On Mar 29, 8:15 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>


It has been years since I have seen a copy, but, I do not recall
there being any frames from the Orville Nix film in "Four Dark Days in
History". Are there?

justm...@gmail.com

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Healy digs the hole deeper....who wants to be first to bury him alive?


A previous post from Healy says:

"even the skank can't deal with the fact that there are 2 books
titled
Four Days -- Four Days and Four *DARK* Day's .... galleys and page
proofs of both (not to mention first editions, too).... now if the
nutter's have some money and balls.... LMFAO..."

His second post:

"ROFLMFAO -- what-a-wanker... You should have no problem finding a
cite
that Four Days b&w galleys and page proofs were not produced. You
have
been in touch with the publisher, yes? Ahh, I thought so.....

And skank, have you ever heard of Four *DARK* Days? Produced in b&w...
"

Four Dark Days...was a magazine not a book. The entire magazine is b/w
photos, there were never any colored photos. So again Healy is lying
(what a shock). He admits not having galley proofs of "Four Days" and
then tries to cover his lie by saying it was "Four Dark Days".
Apparently he's intoxicated 99% of the time because he can't even keep
his lies straight. Lets see what his next lie will be.

Gil Jesus

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On Mar 27, 9:59�am, BurlyGu...@gmail.com wrote:

there are no
> civil, sensible "CT'rs" with whom to discuss the evidence in this
> case.


so then, WHY are you here ?

aeffects

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Mar 29, 2008, 12:23:32 PM3/29/08
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On Mar 29, 5:15 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>

sheeeet toots-e-roll, Soooooooo, you're a 20 year old, hormone[s]
ragging declared atheist - trolling the back streets of America (as
well as the USENET boards) looking for kids, eh? Tell us it ain't so
toots-e-roll... tell us it ain't so..... ROTFLMFAO!

Aren't long good-bye[s] wonderful.....

Burly...@gmail.com

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Mar 29, 2008, 12:26:34 PM3/29/08
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What business is it of yours?

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 29, 2008, 12:27:46 PM3/29/08
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Direct your comment to Gil Jesus, you just described him to a tee.
(what little of that pile of shit you just typed makes any sense) Go
have another drink for breakfast Healy you have a long day ahead of
you worming out of your lies. I see you totally ignored the post about
your Four Days galley proofs. You're a worthless piece of trash Healy,
we have you figured out. It's not hard to predict what a drug/alcohol
infested junkie will do next. Have you tried jumping off any bridges
lately? Give it a go....do us all a favor.

aeffects

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Mar 29, 2008, 12:36:38 PM3/29/08
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by-golly The SCAB stopped by to wish me well.... you're breaking up
Justme1952 chain of thought here kid, Justme1952 the 20 year old neo-
nazi's - declared atheist cum lesbian impersonator will have a tough
time putting a few sentences together there son..... don't screw with
its delivery, part of the droll might end up in its lap..... perhaps
you'll become the *new* source for her USENET inspiration (damn, LMAO
I even crack myself up on occasion).

Tell me you don't live way out in the northern California hinterlands,
son!

tomnln

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WHO wrote;

As for you Rossley...NO ONE discusses anything about the assassination
with you nor will they. NO ONE cares about your website that you keep
trying to shove down everyones throat. That is how you discuss
things..posting your useless website. You're an arrogant old bastard
who is as worthless as your website.
This will be the LAST time I address you about anything. Say whatever
you want about me, it just shows everyone what a piece of shit you
are. You just don't know when to shut your fucking mouth. You'll learn
when it's too late.


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Mar 29, 2008, 3:05:21 PM3/29/08
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Quit yapping, and show us *your* b&w copy of "Four Days".

> And skank, have you ever heard of Four *DARK* Days? Produced in b&w...

What are you trying to say here? That all your talk about owning a b&w
copy of "Four Days" was bullshit?

> Why are these Lone Nut dolts so easy....? None of the fools have any
> money either....

Money can't buy you common sense.

tims...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2008, 1:51:46 AM3/30/08
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TOP POST

Hey Healy,

Howsabout you answer the man's question, Healy?

Especially as you're no longer *leaving*.

Well, that appears to be the plan today...

Concerned Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

> > > > >here.....ROTFLMFAO!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

tims...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2008, 5:52:17 AM3/30/08
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Hi Toots,

Say, you've only been <snicker> *leaving* for three days now, Toots-E-
Roll.

Liar aren't you, Toots?

Coward aren't you, Toots?

Say, those words sound kind of familiar don't they Toots, LOL!

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

Bud

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Mar 30, 2008, 7:12:19 AM3/30/08
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timst...@gmail.com wrote:
> TOP POST
>
> LOL! Now Healy is trying to pretend he was confused and was talking
> about the 1963 publication *Four Dark Days In History* as opposed to
> the 1964 UPI book *Four Days*.
>
> That won't work, Toots-E-Roll. You made something of the UPI
> connection when you told your first lie about having a galley proof
> copy of *Four Days*.
>
> I clearly said *Four Days* right from the get go, pal. Has it taken
> you a week or so to think of this latest excuse?

It took him this long just to read the title of the book he claims
to own? These kooks ooze credibility, who would believe the dumb old
Warren Commission over them?

tomnln

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Mar 30, 2008, 1:32:02 PM3/30/08
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GUESS WHO WROTE! ! ! !

As for you Rossley...NO ONE discusses anything about the assassination
with you nor will they. NO ONE cares about your website that you keep
trying to shove down everyones throat. That is how you discuss
things..posting your useless website. You're an arrogant old bastard
who is as worthless as your website.
This will be the LAST time I address you about anything. Say whatever
you want about me, it just shows everyone what a piece of shit you
are. You just don't know when to shut your fucking mouth. You'll learn
when it's too late.


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