Was Jack Lawrence An "Ex-CIA-Courier?"

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Jun 5, 2021, 6:11:05 AM6/5/21

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Jack Lawrence was living in West Virginia from May to September, 1963, and there is a CIA document which speaks of a person saying that an "ex-CIA-courier" in West Virginia had told her that the president was going to be killed, and then his killer would also be killed." There don't seem to be any follow-up documents. Could it be Jack Lawrence?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/104-10132-10075_%28JFK%2C_April_26%2C_2018_release%29.pdf

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Jun 5, 2021, 6:25:00 AM6/5/21

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On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 6:11:05 AM UTC-4, Airline Seat 19efppp wrote:
> Jack Lawrence was living in West Virginia from May to September, 1963, and there is a CIA document which speaks of a person saying that an "ex-CIA-courier" in West Virginia had told her that the president was going to be killed, and then his killer would also be killed." There don't seem to be any follow-up documents. Could it be Jack Lawrence?
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> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/104-10132-10075_%28JFK%2C_April_26%2C_2018_release%29.pdf

I found a follow-up interview of the daughter of this person, in which the story turns out not to be Jack Lawrence.

https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=96342#relPageId=4

Did they ever talk to the actual person?

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Jun 5, 2021, 6:36:58 AM6/5/21

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FBI documents debunk the idea that this was Lawrence:

https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=59616#relPageId=88&search=kathryn_n.%20sherwood

Never mind...I guess.

Sam McClung

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Jun 5, 2021, 1:28:51 PM6/5/21

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Wonder what "intelligence unit" the groom had been in during WW II. Having been in WW II seems to exclude Lawrence. Is there any other info in the memo that excludes Lawrence?

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Jun 5, 2021, 2:01:17 PM6/5/21

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The location and situation exclude him, too. Lawrence was working at Sears in Charlestown, WV, according to an FBI report, which is many miles from Maryland, where the race track is. If the story told is true, and I think it probably is, then it can't be Lawrence. Anyway, Lawrence is smarter than that.

Sam McClung

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Jun 5, 2021, 3:07:50 PM6/5/21

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Obvious differences but I tend to agree with Chauncey Holt when he said " I certainly wouldn't believe the FBI" so don't see a clear conflict between Lawrence having been in WV and Maryland, my leaning possibly influenced by the many, many inconsistencies in things Lawrence has apparently said.

Chuck Schuyler

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Jun 5, 2021, 3:08:35 PM6/5/21

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On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 5:11:05 AM UTC-5, Airline Seat 19efppp wrote:

> Jack Lawrence was living in West Virginia from May to September, 1963, and there is a CIA document which speaks of a person saying that an "ex-CIA-courier" in West Virginia had told her that the president was going to be killed, and then his killer would also be killed." There don't seem to be any follow-up documents. Could it be Jack Lawrence?

It could be.

Jack Lawrence was the surname inspiration of singer-entertainer Steve Lawrence, born Sidney Liebowitz, of the vocal duet, Steve and Eydie, consisting of Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gormé. Liebowitz met Lawrence backstage at a Catskills club called Bernie's on the River, reportedly in the company of mob hitman Tony "Two Fingers" Accaro, of the Carlos Marcello crime family. An unholy alliance between the Mob and rogue CIA men like Jack Lawrence was already developing in the 50s, as both sides saw opportunities to work together with shared goals in Cuba. Liebowitz, of course, knew nothing of this at the time, but was impressed with Jack Lawrence and took his last name for show-biz purposes.

It was while booked on the pre-Johnny Carson Tonight Show, starring Steve Allen, in 1954, that Liebowitz (Lawrence) met co-guest Joan Crawford. Liebowitz's close friendship with Crawford resulted in an introduction to Jack Lawrence in 1962 or 1963 (records are murky), on the Tonight Show, now starring Johnny Carson, and Lawrence and Crawford were overheard by Carson sharing their hatred of JFK over the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the proposed elimination of the cola depletion allowance, which was making the shareholders of Pepsi-Cola very wealthy. (Carson was interviewed on this subject years later by a staff attorney for the HSCA, but this document has mysteriously vanished from the records.) I believe this friendship between Joan Crawford and Jack Lawrence--and their mutual disgust with JFK--turned deadly for John F Kennedy in Dealey Plaza, on November 22nd, 1963.

Was Jack Lawrence involved in the death of JFK? It seems indisputable. Then again, anyone could be involved in the death of JFK. It's that big.

Keep grinding, guys. You're On the Trail of the Assassins. I feel a break in the case any day now.

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